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Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers r-
Lansing City Hall = CLD
Tuesday, March 6, 2007
1. OPENING SESSION c-. ' 1
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Mr. Hollister, Vice Chair,-" == i� i
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A. Roll call: Present: Frederick, Bruch, Hollister.
B. Staff Attending: Stachowiak.
C. Excused absences: Ruge, Czekai, Cordill.
D. Absent: Ruge, Czekai, Gordill None.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that there are only three Board members present which is
not enough for a quorum and requests for excused absences could not be
approved due to lack of a quorum. However, the Board will still hold the public
hearing.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA— None.
3. COMMUNICATIONS — None.
4. HEARINGS
A. Z-1-2007, 3811 Aurelius Road, "A" Residential District to "C"
Residential District
This is a request by Robert Ford to rezone the property at 3811 Aurelius
Road, more specifically described as:
COM 158.83 FT+/- S OF NW COR OF SW 1/4 OF NW 1/4, TH E 160
FT, S 79.41 FT+/-, W 160 FT, N 79.41 FT+/- TO BEG; SEC 35 T4N
R2W, CITY OF LANSING, INGHAM COUNTY, MICHIGAN
from "A" Residential District to "C" Residential District for the purpose of
allowing the existing building at this location to be used as a duplex.
Ms. Stachowiak gave a brief overview.
Mr. Tom Ward, representative for Robert Ford and resident of 206 N.
Broadway, Lowell, MI 49331, stated that he has worked with Mr. Ford for
many years and he knows the history of this request very well. A few
years ago, Mr. Ford bought the property and it was represented to him
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that it was a duplex. The conversion was probably done 20 years or more
ago and the property's age goes back to late 1800s for the main structure.
It has been added on to several times. When Mr. Ford purchased it, an
agent representing Tomie Raines sold it to him as a duplex. All of the
appraisals that were used to give it value list it as a duplex. He stated that
Mr. Ford did not even have a clue that he did not have a duplex.
Mr. Ward stated that the Code Compliance Officer who was there when he
was at the property said that it was not that uncommon for these to be
done 20, 30 or 40 years ago where an owner would convert something to
a duplex. They were not required at the time he said to register them.
This is kind of a "hand-me-down" from that era and someone sold it as a
duplex.
Mr. Ward stated that there are two floors: a kitchen on both floors,
bathroom on both floors and separate entrances. This has been like this
for 20 or 30 years. He does not know. Mr. Ford has a fairly good size
mortgage on the property and his big concern is if he has to tear out the
kitchen and turn this into a single family, he would have a mortgage on
something that is not worth what it is mortgaged for. This is the main
concern for Mr. Ford. Here he is stuck with this property and all along he
thought it was a two family unit. If it is not zoned as a two family, which
there are others on the street that are two family units, then he is going to
lose value in the property.
Mr. Ward stated that the tenants are good tenants and that there have
been no problems with the community or the neighbors. In fact, he has
heard that the neighbors really like these people.
Mr. Frederick asked if Mr. Ford has any other rental properties in the City
of Lansing. Mr. Ward said he does. Mr. Frederick asked if Mr. Ford was
aware that he has to register those also. Mr. Ward said absolutely. Mr.
Frederick asked why Mr. Ford did not register this one. Mr. Ward stated
that this property is registered as a single family unit. There was a real
estate management company (possibly Mag Real Estate) back when Mr.
Ford purchased the property, managed it for Mr. Ford and was supposed
to comply with some paperwork to try to get it re-zoned but they never
followed through with it. This is what the Code Compliance Office told
him. So, he rented it out as a single family unit to one individual and that
individual is sharing expenses with the property owner. This is currently
the situation. What he would like to see is to make it a legal two-unit so it
can be registered as a two-unit. It has been registered for years.
Dr. Bruch stated that if the costs are being shared with the property owner,
she asked if that means they both live in the same house and it is really
working currently as a duplex. Mr. Ward stated from what he
understands, it is rented to one person and because there is a large house
with two floors, he has rented it out and shared expenses. This is how Mr.
Ford lives there. He has a room mate in this house. Mr. Ward stated that
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Code Compliance had been there years ago when Mr. Ford did get the
license and have been there several times since. They were well aware of
the fact that it was being shared and that was how it was allowed to be.
Code Compliance said that it cannot look like a duplex anymore and that
Mr. Ford would have to go to the Building department to fix it. Mr. Ward
looked into every thing for the rules and regulations in taking a two-unit
and making it into a single unit. He is caught in this dilemma that it just
cannot look like a duplex. It has to have an entry on the inside, which it
does, and there is an exterior entrance. It is either going to be a two-unit
or it is not. If it is not a two-unit, then he has to take everything out of it
that makes it look like a two-unit, including most of the kitchen (i.e. sink,
appliances). Mr. Ward stated that this property has been a two-unit for
probably 30 years and has separate electricity. It has shared gas.
Mr. Ward stated that the negative side is it would be less valuable once it
was renovated to be a single family dwelling.
Mr. Frederick asked if there were only two guys living there. Mr. Ward
said yes. Mr. Frederick asked where all the cars and trucks come from.
Mr. Ward stated that Mr. Ford is in construction and has a car and a truck.
His roommate, who lives upstairs, has a car and a truck. He stated that
there could be an extra vehicle because they collect vehicles but he does
not know.
Mr. Frederick stated that there are other two family units on the street but
they are much further away. Mr. Ward stated that he does not have the
addresses but was told that there are other two-units structures on
Aurelius Road. Mr. Frederick stated that there are other duplexes on
Aurelius Road but way down at the other end closer to the cemetery on
the west side of the street. One duplex has been updated and looks much
better. There are some but not nearby.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak, Mr. Hollister closed the public
hearing for Z-1-2007, 3811 Aurelius Road, "A" Residential District to
"C" Residential District and was referred to the next Zoning and
Ordinance Committee meeting scheduled to meet March 14, 2007 at 4:00
p.m. in the Planning and Neighborhood Development Conference Room
at 316 N. Capitol Avenue.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that this is the only case for the meeting next week.
She asked if they would like to have a Zoning and Ordinance Committee
meeting before the next Planning Board meeting. Mr. Frederick, Mr.
Hollister and Dr. Bruch agreed to have the Zoning and Ordinance
Committee meeting before the next Board meeting.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (3 minutes each)
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Mr. John Hoffman, resident of 2029 Luwana, stated he lives two houses down
from the property proposed for rezoning. The only things he is concerned about
are the amount of vehicles that are parked around this property and the upkeep
of the property. Last year, he was not sure if they were renovating it but there
was quite a bit of trash around the place. If it goes into a duplex, he asked how
will it be kept so that it is decent for the neighborhood.
Seeing no one else wishing to address the Board, Mr. Hollister closed the public
comment period.
6. RECESS — None.
7. BUSINESS SESSION — None.
8. NEW BUSINESS — None.
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON — None.
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS — None.
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS — None.
a. Dollar Store-Willow Street&MILK Blvd.-landscaping &buffering (May 20, 2003)
b. Grovenburg property-dumpster in ROW(July 1,2003)
c. 2714 W. Jolly Road-church with large statue in front yard (January 20,2004)
d. W.Willow Street-Grace Tabernacle Church-no landscaping (May 4, 2004)
e. Michigan Ave& Shepard Street-sign business-several banner signs nailed to the outside of building
(May 4, 2004)
f. 2702 S. Cedar Street-no landscaping (May 18, 2004)
g. 2410 S. Pennsylvania Ave.-no landscaping (November 3,2004)
h. 2200 W. Holmes Road- Bad Habits-excessive signs (May 3,2005)
i. 2618 Cavanaugh Road. - registered rental&front yard paved, used for parking (October 4,2005)
j. 1712 W.Saginaw Street,W.of Sparrow's St. Lawrence campus—rogue used car salesman operating
in a print shop(April 18,2006)
k. Keeps Party Store-Aurelius Road-illegal signs(July 5,2006, July 18,2006 &September 5,2006)
I. Clarion Hotel—two big signs advertising Great Lakes Condominiums(December 5,2006)
m. The Firm—review requirements for fenced outdoor patio (December 5, 2006)
n. 928 Pacific Ave.—6 foot fence in front yard on a corner lot(February 6,2007)
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 7:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted
William C. Rieske, Secretary; Planning Board
PBMinutes.030607.doc
Approved as written 4-3-07 Draft to Clerk February 28,2007
Approved April 3,2007
To Clerk April 5,2007
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, February 20, 2007 ' Cti
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1. OPENING SESSION ;
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Mr. Czekai, Chair. 'r--
A. Roll call: Present: Frederick, Ruge, Bruch, Czekail, Hollister.
B. Staff Attending: Stachowiak, Rieske.
C. Excused absences: Cordill.
D. Absent: None.
Mr. Czekai requested an excused absence from the February 9th meeting.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Dr. Bruch to approve an excused
absence request from Mr. Czekai for the February 9th meeting. On a voice vote,
the motion carried unanimously (5-0).
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Mr. Czekai stated that ACT-13-2006 will be referred to the Committee of the
Whole on March 6, 2007 as opposed to the Urban Development Committee
meeting.
Mr. Rieske stated that the UDC meeting scheduled for February 27, 2007 has
been cancelled.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Mr. Hollister to approve the agenda
as amended. On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (5-0).
3. COMMUNICATIONS
A. Letter of support from Officer Tucker, LPD, regarding ACT-13-2006
B. A packet of materials from property owners supporting ACT-13-2006
4. HEARINGS
A. ACT-13-2006, Daft Street, Vacate South End of Daft Street
Right-of-Way
This is an application by the City of Lansing Planning Office to vacate the
south end of Daft Street. Residents in the neighborhood have requested
that the city vacate the south end of the Daft Street right-of-way so that a
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fence or some other type of barrier can be erected to restrict cut-through
pedestrian traffic.
Ms. Stachowiak gave a brief overview and read for the record Officer
Tucker's letter of support regarding ACT-13-2006.
Mr. Rieske stated that the ROW is 50 feet wide and if vacated, 25 feet
would go to the property owner to the west and 25 feet would go to the
property owner to the east. The 20 feet dimension is an arbitrary
dimension that could be shortened or lengthened depending upon what is
needed.
Mr. Hollister asked if this was vacated, would the two property owners
have to purchase the property. Mr. Rieske stated that they would not
have to purchase it because it is a platted street. It would just be added to
their property descriptions automatically.
Dr. Bruch asked if Daft Street gets closed off, is there any reason why
pedestrians would not break a hole in the fence at Shreve, Barker or
Yunker Streets. She stated that it looks like a fix for this area but moving
the problem some where else. Ms. Stachowiak stated that is a very good
point. This is not a perfect situation and the Planning Office will have to
address all of the issues in the staff report.
Ms. Carol Wood, resident of 1018 W. Lapeer, stated that she just
wanted to clarify the question concerning the letter from the neighborhood
watch officer, Officer Tucker. Councilmember Williams (Third Ward),
Councilmember Jeffries and herself have been meeting with the
neighborhood. She assumed that is why Officer Tucker included them as
copies because they have been dealing with the problems. She does not
think that it was to slight any other councilmember and as these items are
moved forward to City Council, all of them would be included.
Ms. Christiane Gray, resident of 1013 Victoria Drive, stated that she
lives almost on the corner of Victoria Drive and Daft Street, where most of
the problems are happening. There is a wetland behind this area that
used to go all the way through but now is dried up near Daft Street. On
Shreve and Barker Streets, the creek still exists. Pedestrians would have
to cross over the wetland or the creek in order to get over to those areas
which is why they have not gone that way in the past.
Ms. Danielle Patrick, resident of 6244 Daft Street, stated that each
Board member should have received a lengthy packet to read at their
leisure. The purpose for providing all this information was to show the
Board that they have done their part as a neighborhood, to give the Board
examples of the people they have been in contact with, and all the
resources they have utilized to try to resolve this problem. Frankly, it has
ended up with a band aid being put on all the problems. They tried
working with the apartment complex managers with still no resolution.
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There is a map included with highlighted sections that designates every
adjacent neighborhood and the dead end street that abuts the apartment
complexes. Every one of them has a barrier or fence of some type except
Daft Street, which is why Daft Street ends up with all of the problems. In
terms of needing transportation or convenience needs, she is a little
disappointed that they would get to years down the road of these
apartment complexes existing before thinking of their needs. It really does
not make a lot of sense to her. There is transportation access on
Georgetown Blvd. with a sidewalk and pedestrians could easily walk down
there instead of coming down Daft Street. She does not see this as a
valid convenience need.
When the apartment complexes were developed, she highly doubts that
they presented City Council with a two foot wide path on a steep
embankment next to a wetland as adequate access to a neighborhood.
The biggest issue is the people who are using this for criminal activity. It
is a huge access for criminal activity and nobody wants to take
Washington Street where everybody in the world can see them. They
want to go where nobody is going to see them and that is down a street
with no traffic. It is much less visible for the police.
Mr. Czekai asked if Edgewood Villas and Traditions Town Homes are both
affordable housing/low income. Ms. Stachowiak stated that she is not
sure but will check into the matter.
Mr. Steve Sulski, resident of 6386 Bishop Road, stated that he owns
the vacant property along the west side. He is an absentee owner and
bought the property to sell. He ran the sewer line into it and did some
clearing work for getting it ready to sell. He had it sold a couple of times
but the people backed out because of the residents coming from the
apartments to the south. Since they were put up, his property is virtually
useless. He cannot sell or hardly give it away. He empathizes with the
people who live there because he experienced it when he was out there
working on his property. People would pull up every day with their
Cadillacs and Corvettes, park there, come out with their grocery sacks and
come back 15 minutes later a pocket full of money and then leave. It was
an every day occurrence. The bottom line is he thinks the City created
this problem because it allowed the two projects to be built. One project
was there already and the police had to set up a substation in the first one.
The officers get shot and then the City turns around and allows the second
one to be built. They created the problem and they should be the ones to
bare the brunt of fixing it. He does not want that property, the easement
or the liability. He does not want a fence on his property or kids coming in
and cutting it, getting hung up in it, or getting hurt. He does not want the
liability of it and does not want to maintain it. His property is for sale.
Even if it is vacated, he will not put anything on it because he does not
want the liability. He thinks the problem was created by the City and poor
planning. By not tightening down on the developers and making them put
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up a fence, the City needs to put some pressure on the owners to make
them put up a fence. It is not everyone who lives there but just a select
few who come in and destroy it.
He stated that there is another issue. There is a drainage ditch that has to
be maintained by the Public Service Department and there will have to be
access to it at all times. There is nothing that addresses it. This is a ditch
that has potential for some real hazard and he thinks that the Public
Service Department ought to fence it to cut back on its liability. It is an
accident waiting to happen. He does not think this is a solution. He thinks
the City created the problem and is trying to dump it on his lap and he
does not want it. He thinks that the City should come up with a different
way to address it.
Mr. Frederick asked if the street was vacated, does the land have to be
divided evenly amongst the adjoining property owners. Ms. Stachowiak
stated it has to be because of the State law.
Mr. Douglas Miller, resident of 6235 Daft Street, stated that he has lived
in the neighborhood for 31 years. When Edgewood Blvd. was put in
between Washington Avenue and ML King Blvd., a plan was shown and
the notices were sent out to people. They wanted to run Daft Street as a
through road. The residents signed a petition saying that they did not
want Daft Street running all the way through and the petition held up. The
residents did not want the heavy traffic. The owners of Traditions talked
about putting a wooden fence around the property and he thought it was
supposed to go all the way around the property. For some reason, the
wooden fence was stopped at the end of Daft Street. The problem was
the fire hydrant and that it could not be blocked. He went to the Fire
Department and found out that it was not true and that the fire hydrant had
nothing to do with them. The owners ended up not doing anything and
have left it open all this time. As soon as the other complex was built, the
rest was fenced off at that time. It should have been finished at the
beginning. Everything gets filtered down his street and it is a nightmare
there. He has counted anywhere from 160 to 180 people a day going
back and forth up and down that street. He turns in license plates of
people dealing down there and he watches them. He and his wife have
been threatened by people walking the streets. It is just a nightmare for
him and it has totally destroyed his neighborhood. His address is Daft
Street and the complex address is Edgewood Blvd. This is not an
entrance or an exit for them but that is what they are using it for. They are
using his street more than their own street at times. This is one of his
biggest peeves.
Mr. Frederick asked staff that he would like to know possibly from the City
Attorney if they were to establish drug acitivity, would they have to close
the whole apartment building or could they close individual apartments
when the drug activity took place. According to the police report, it seems
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like there is a lot of drug activity at the apartments. Maybe this is
something that the City could review.
Dr. Bruch asked if the Board could get some information about the
creek/wetland.
Mr. Leon Black, resident of 7180 W. Cutler Road, DeWitt, stated that
he owns the property on the east side right next to the fence. He
purchased the property in 1989 and before the City started on this
apartment complex, he moved out. He always thought that he would have
that house for his kids to live in but they went to college and he moved
back into the house in 1999. Two weeks after he moved back in, his
wife's car was stolen. He decided to put in an alarm system and when he
was up one night, someone tried to get into his back door. The alarm
went off. The police responded quickly but at the same time, never caught
anybody. His house has been broken into five times. His bay window has
been smashed four times and right now, he has to replace it.
He stated that it is so sad that the City is waiting for an accident to
happen. It is all mud and there is no grass anymore. It is up hill and down
hill. It is slippery and there is a creek right there where children play. He
warned the Board that the City is going to get sued. Someone is going to
get smart, fall down and they will blame the City. He stated that it is a
shame. He has been working on this and has even had a lawyer work on
this back in 1996 to try to get a fence put in. The lawyer told him two
weeks later that he talked to the owners and they will not put a fence or a
gate there. They will not close it off.
He has lost hundreds of potential buyers or renters who could have rented
that house. It is a lovely little home and he made it a home for five kids.
At the same time, it is nothing now. He cannot rent it to hardly anyone.
He finally got good renters but it has cost him thousands of dollars in fixing
this house after it was broken into, stole the copper tubing and his tools.
They probably used his tools to steel the copper. The neighbors are all
pretty upset about this. This home is for sale and nobody wants to buy it.
He would love to see a fence there and if someone crossed over it, the
first thing he would do is call the Police. That is trespassing. He does not
want the headaches with it either. He is all for this but is very worried
about it. There are potential hazards of being sued.
Ms. Brenda Stoneburner, resident of 1124 Southfield Street, stated
that Southfield is an east/west road that dead ends into Daft Street. Her
street does not get the direct traffic on Daft as the neighbors do but they
are involved in the neighborhood watch association and are very aware of
the activity that is going on. She thinks that the letter from Officer Tucker
sums up the neighbors perspective of what many of them see happening
and some of the causes and issues that they are dealing with.
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She has worked in the substance abuse field for over twenty years as a
therapist. She has worked with kids in gangs and you know the activity
when you see it. With the comment about going into the complexes and
shutting down apartments, she thinks that is a good idea but what is
happening a lot of people are coming through on foot and are not even
going to direct apartments. It is the foot traffic in her neighborhood where
people are coming in by vehicle off Miller Road on to Daft, Victoria or
Barker Streets, and are making deals in her neighborhood. To trace
things back to an actual apartment is going to be difficult. This is part of
the issue, and cutting down on foot traffic with a fence is going to help with
a lot of the issues in the neighborhood. She asked the Board to consider
this proposal and think about those who live in the neighborhood and the
impact it has on them. Ask yourselves if you would want to live there and
if you would want your kids living there being harassed when they are
playing in the front yard of their home.
Ms. Vada Dodge, resident 6117 Daft Street, stated that she will have
lived there 50 years in October and people used to feel safe living in that
neighborhood. She has swept glass from broken bottles in front of her
house in the street twice. A year ago, someone drove into her driveway
and broke the window out of the back of her new car. She is always
picking up trash that people throw in her yard.
Mr. Filipe Villarreal, resident of 6229 Shreve, stated that he also owns a
house at 6263 Shreve. His wife purchased the house in 2003 and within
the first month of living there at 2:00 a.m, they had a knock on the door
and a flashlight shining through the house. She walked up to the door,
found out it was a police car and there was a young kid sitting out on the
porch holding his head. The officer asked her if she had ordered a pizza.
She said no and that he just woke her up, so why would she order a pizza.
The delivery person was mugged right there on her front porch. She had
only been living there a month so obviously people knew the house was
vacant but did not realize that his wife had moved in. They ordered a
pizza, sent it to this address, mugged the pizza driver and took the pizza.
He stated that about a year ago they were walking down on Daft Street
and heard a car driving extremely fast, maybe 40 to 45 mph through their
little subdivision. He stopped at the end of the street, runs out of the car
and into one of the apartments. He grabbed the license plate number and
headed over to one of his neighbor's house to call the police. No sooner
than he walked from that little spot to five houses down, that young kid
runs back to his car and takes off on Victoria Street in the other direction.
The police called back later and said that the license plate number was
not registered to anyone. So the neighbors do not know if the people are
from out of state or what. Nobody knew who owned that vehicle. There
are a lot of shady people in this neighborhood just driving through and the
neighbors would like it to stop.
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Ms. Judith Miller, resident of 6235 Daft Street, stated that one summer
she had seven young boys come by her house, call her several names
and threaten to shoot her. They are constantly sweeping up broken glass
and have had credit cards stolen from people in the neighborhood. These
people are coming from the townhomes. She has driven around Lansing
out of curiosity and every place she went to, there was a fence all the way
around the property of other apartment complexes and townhome areas.
Why is there not a fence all the way around the Traditions and Edgewood
Villa properties. They were closed for two days but because someone cut
the fence, the owners decided that they did not want to spend the money
to close it or put security cameras out there to catch the residents cutting
their fence. They want to put the garbage onto the neighbors. The
neighbors are picking up the garbage and even one of the renters picked
up garbage out of Mr. Black's yard and got yelled at because he put it
back into the complex's granger dumpster. This has to end somewhere
before someone gets seriously hurt. She thanked the Board for its time.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak, Mr. Czekai closed the public hearing
for ACT-13-2006, Daft Street, Vacate South End of Daft Street Right-
of-Way and was referred to the Committee of the Whole scheduled to
meet on March 6, 2007 unless otherwise noted.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (3 minutes each)
Ms. Christiane Gray, resident of 1013 Victoria Drive, stated that she moved
into the neighborhood a year and a half ago. One week after she moved in, her
house was robbed with her five year old son at home. This man could have killed
or taken her child. He was not caught and continued throughout that summer
and winter to come through her neighborhood. The police were after him and
every time they saw him, they called the police. This is just one gentleman who
they know of and she saw walking out of her house at the time. She called the
police and they told her that this was her problem and only her problem. They
told her that she should not have moved into the area because she should have
known the neighborhood was bad. This is the stuff that she has been dealing
with for a year and a half. She has not seen it as a good neighborhood because
it has been completely destroyed the whole time she has lived there.
Her main concern is the safety of the children and the lives of everyone who lives
there. Right now there is a concern with all of the break ins especially around
that corner area. Leon's house is right on the corner abutting the proposed
property. She is only three house down to the west from his home. There has
been so many break ins and she is just very concerned. Her son cannot go
outside without her being out there 24/7 because she is seriously afraid for her
son's life. She and her son should not have to live this way. No one should.
She stated that vacating the property and privatizing it, will allow the neighbors to
stand up to the apartment complexes and say that this is their property and your
people are not allowed to come through here anymore. Is that going to stop
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everything? No. People are still going to try but that is when all the neighbors
collaborate together and get the police involved to get the trespassers.
As soon as it is known that it is not a place they can be legally, she thinks that it
will cut down immensely on the activity. They could come through the swamp if
they wanted too. She stated that the main concern here is safety and she really
feels that this is a huge step forward. It will be something completely different
than what the neighbors have been dealing with now. She asked the Board to
understand her frustration and her main concern here is safety.
Mr. Douglas Miller, resident of 6235 Daft Street, stated that when the fence
was closed up, former Mayor Benavides ordered the apartment complex to close
both fences. It lasted two days before it was wrecked. For whatever reason, it
was never enforced after that. The neighbors noticed that suddenly the traffic
quit. He was gone for the weekend and when he came back, it was all open.
The apartment complex just left it that way ever since and has not tried very hard.
It was not an ongoing problem with cutting fences all the time. It happened just
the one time and the apartment complex has allowed it to be open ever since.
The people are using it for an access for foot traffic off their street. It is not an
entrance or an exit for them. Their entrance and exit are on Edgewood Blvd.
Seeing no one else wishing to address the Board, Mr. Czekai closed the public
comment period.
6. RECESS was taken by the Board.
7. BUSINESS SESSION
A. Consent Items
1 . Minutes for Approval: February 6, 2007
The minutes of February 6, 2007 were
APPROVED w/corrections:
Pg. 1, under item 1 D, change Mr. Czekai's absence to excused.
B. Committee Reports
1. ZONING AND ORDINANCE COMMITTEE, Mr. Ruge, Chair
a. PRD-1-2006, New Faith Gardens, Wise Road
This is a request by New Faith Gardens, LLC for approval of
a Planned Residential Development on the south 5.88 acres
of the Lansing Church of God in Christ property at 5304
Wise Road. The applicant is proposing the construction of
24 townhouses and 24 senior citizen apartments.
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 20, 2007 Page 9
Staff recommended approval of PRD-1-2006, New Faith
Gardens, Wise Road, with the following conditions:
1. The development be constructed in accordance with
the site plan that depicts the garages located behind
the front wall of the building for the cottage units and
the garages extending 5.2' beyond the front wall of
the building for the townhouse units;
2. The applicant preserve as many of the existing trees
as possible;
3. Landscape, screening and buffering be installed as
described on pages 4 and 5 of this staff report; and
4. A pedestrian pathway from the housing development
to the church be installed starting at the north end of
the north-south road in the development and
connecting to the church building.
In Committee, the request was recommended for approval
with the following conditions:
1. The development be constructed in accordance with
the site plan dated 2-20-07;
2. The applicant preserve as many of the existing trees
as possible; and
3. Landscape, screening and buffering, consisting of
plant materials only, be installed around the site.
The Committee further recommended: 1) that the buildings
meet LEED standards, and 2) that the City explore tax
abatements to help the applicant attain LEED standards on
the buildings. The motion carried unanimously (3-0).
Dr. Bruch clarified condition number 3: Instead of being as
described on pages 4 and 5, the Committee scrapped the
idea of having the 6 foot high fence and the very dense row
of vegetation. Mr. Ruge and Mr. Frederick accepted it.
Dr. Bruch asked what the difference was between the State
regulated wetlands and other wetlands. Ms. Stachowiak
stated that anything 5 acres or more is a State regulated
wetland. Less than that, it is not. Ms. Stachowiak stated
that the City does not have a local wetland ordinance so the
City only goes by what the State regulates as a wetland.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that the LEED standard was a strong
recommendation but the project cannot be approved or
denied based on whether the applicant meets it or not. The
applicant has agreed to a number of energy efficient
appliances and other things in terms of the buildings and
they are working with Dr. Bruch to explore the possibility of
having LEED certified buildings.
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 20, 2007 Page 10
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Mr. Frederick, to recommend approval of
PRD-1-2006, New Faith Gardens, Wise Road.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Bruch . . Ave
Ruge. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye Czekai. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
Hollister . . Aye
On a roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 5; Nays: 0; unanimous.
APPROVED.
Next meeting, Wednesday, March 14, 2007, at 4 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Avenue, Department Conference Room.
2. URBAN DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, Mr. Frederick, Chair
Mr. Frederick stated that the UDC meeting scheduled for February
27, 2007 has been cancelled and the only issue to be address will
be taken up March 6th by the Committee of the Whole.
Next meeting, Tuesday, March 27, 2007, at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
3. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
Mr. Czekai stated that the Committee of the Whole will meet
March 6, 2007.
4. EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
C. Old Business — None.
D. Report from Planning Manager
Mr. Rieske stated that the Planning Office has been working a great deal
on its website. There is content on there and he encouraged the Board
members to take a look at it. The Planning Office is scanning planning
reports that will go on the website. He is making that website as good
possible, whether or not there is a Master Plan project. He would like to
have another website with a link to this one for the Master Plan project and
yet another similar link for the Grand Vision project.
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 20, 2007 Page 11
E. Pending Items: Future action required
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a. Z-1-2006, 310/312 Chestnut
b. Z-3-2006,W. Edgewood
c. Z-17-2005, Polly& Benjamin
d. SLU-4-2006,3215 W. Mt. Hope
e. Z-12-2006&SLU-7-2006 2727 Lyons Avenue
f. PRD-1-2006, New Faith Gardens,5304 Wise Road
2. Urban Development Committee
a. Master Plan Project
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planning Board
8. NEW BUSINESS — None.
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON — None.
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS
a. Dollar Store-Willow Street& MLK Blvd. - landscaping &buffering (May 20,2003)
b. Grovenburg property-dumpster in ROW (July 1,2003)
c. 2714 W.Jolly Road-church with large statue in front yard (January 20,2004)
d. W.Willow Street-Grace Tabernacle Church-no landscaping (May 4,2004)
e. Michigan Ave&Shepard Street-sign business-several banner signs nailed to the outside of building
(May 4, 2004)
f. 2702 S.Cedar Street-no landscaping (May 18, 2004)
g. 2410 S. Pennsylvania Ave. -no landscaping (November 3, 2004)
h. 2200 W. Holmes Road- Bad Habits-excessive signs (May 3, 2005)
i. 2618 Cavanaugh Road. -registered rental &front yard paved, used for parking (October 4,2005)
j. 1712 W. Saginaw Street,W.of Sparrow's St. Lawrence campus—rogue used car salesman operating
in a print shop(April 18, 2006)
k. Keeps Party Store-Aurelius Road-illegal signs (July 5,2006,July 18,2006& September 5,2006)
I. Clarion Hotel—two big signs advertising Great Lakes Condominiums (December 5, 2006)
m. The Firm—review requirements for fenced outdoor patio(December 5,2006)
n. 928 Pacific Ave.—6 foot fence in front yard on a corner lot(February 6,2007)
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 7:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted, P
William C. Rieske, Secretary, Planning Board
PB Minutes.022007.doc
APPROVED WITH CORRECTIONS: Draft to Clerk February 8,2007
Pg 1, under item 1 D,change Mr. Czekai's absence to excused. Approved February 20,2007
To Clerk February 22,2007
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, February 6, 2007
1. OPENING SESSION
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Mr. Hollister, Vice Chair.r `
A. Roll call: Present: Frederick, Ruge, Bruch, Cordill, Hollister. CD
B. Staff Attending: Stachowiak, Rieske, Anderson (EDC — in the audience).
C. Excused absences: Czekai.
D. Absent: Czeka+ None.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Mr. Frederick moved and seconded by Ms. Cordill that the Riverbend/Whitehall
Neighborhood Enterprise Zone (NEZ) be placed under Consent Items.
Dr. Bruch made a motion, seconded by Mr. Frederick to approve the agenda as
amended. On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (5-0).
3. COMMUNICATIONS — None.
4. HEARINGS — None.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (3 minutes each)
Seeing no one wishing to address the Board, Mr. Hollister closed the public
comment period.
6. RECESS was not taken by the Board.
7. BUSINESS SESSION
A. Consent Items
1. Minutes for Approval: January 9, 2007
The minutes of November 1, 2006 were
APPROVED w/corrections:
?LANNING BOARD MINUTES February 6, 2007 Page 2
Pg. 1, under Item 2, Mr. Bruch s/b Ms. Bruch.
Pg. 14, 2►,d para., 11 th line, "how" s/b "home"
Pg. 15, under section 7.13.2, Mr. Frederick is Chair of UDC.
2. Proposed Objectives, Goals and Projected Use of Community
Development Block Grant HOME and Emergency Shelter
Grant, Action Plan 2008
Dr. Bruch asked who reviews the numbers. Mr. Rieske stated that
the numbers are proposed by the Development Office and a public
hearing was held in January for the needs. The numbers are
amended and then it is presented to the Urban Development
Committee for review. HUD also reserves the right to change the
funding.
Staff recommended approval of the Proposed Objectives, Goals
and Projected Use of Community Development Block Grant HOME
and Emergency Shelter Grant, Action Plan 2008.
In Committee, the request was also recommended for approval and
the motion carried unanimously (2-0).
APPROVED w/o Objections.
3. Z-17-2006, Part of 715 W. Willow Street, "B" Residential District
to "DM-1" Residential District
This is a request by LHC Nonprofit Development Corporation to
rezone 6.8 acres of the former Michigan School for the Blind
property located at 715 W. Willow Street from "B" Residential
District to "DM-1" Residential District. The purpose of the rezoning
is to permit the former Administration Building on the site to be
used for up to fifty (50) units of senior citizen housing.
APPROVED w/o Objections.
4. Riverbend/Whitehall Neighborhood Enterprise Zone (NEZ)
This is a request by Richard Ferguson and Thomas Knoy that the
City establish a Neighborhood Enterprise Zone (NEZ) for the 200
and 300 Blocks of East Main Street. The application letter
describes this area as being located on the south side of E. Main
Street, extending eastward to Pennsylvania Avenue. The attached
map and the comprehensive plan map show eastern boundary of
the subject area as lining up with River Street, as extended
southward from the Cherry Hill neighborhood.
rLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 6, 2007 Page 3
The project involves the conversion of the Whitehall Manor
Apartments (approx. 58 units) and the Riverbend Apartments
(approx. 54 units) into owner occupied condominiums. A
discussion ensued, in which committee members suggested speed
reductions on Main Street or other enhancements be made to make
the area more pedestrian friendly. Main Street serves as the
access road for eastbound 1-496, and is under MDOT jurisdiction.
The City would benefit by a reduction in the number of rental units
and an increase in home ownership. The River Island
Comprehensive Plan designates this area for medium density
residential (20-50 units/acre).
Staff recommended approval of the Riverbend/Whitehall
Neighborhood Enterprise Zone (NEZ) proposal.
In Committee, the proposal was also recommended for approval
and further recommended that the City work with the applicants,
residents, and MDOT to enhance the pedestrian-friendliness of the
immediate area. The motion carried unanimously (2-0).
Dr. Bruch stated that the Board has talked at some point about
establishing some of the enterprise zones and she asked if this was
to reduce the tax relief. Mr. Anderson, EDC, stated that there has
to be 10 contiguous parcels to set up an NEZ. The area is basically
that chunk of land between the river and Main Street, Washington
and the river. The incentive for home ownership or a rental where
there is rehab and making an investment, the taxable value of that
property is frozen. As the improvements are made, they do not
have to pay taxes on those improvements. For this particular
project, Whitehall Manor, which is 58 units, will be
condominiumized into 58 individual condominiums that will then
have the frozen base value, based on what it is today. So when
there is an investment made in each one of the individual
condominiums, the higher tax rate will not be passed on to the
condominium owners.
For the time being, there will be one certificate over Riverbend
which will be a frozen value on that apartment complex that will
have 54 units. These incentives are for twelve years.
Dr. Bruch asked why not make one enterprise zone and let
everyone go under it. The historical part of Lansing could use it.
Mr. Anderson stated that there are stipulations in the law about how
much of the City's total acreage can be used. It is currently at
approximately 15%. The City has to be a little bit strategic. We
want to make sure when they do this that there is a project. In the
past, they have done things like the Baker Donora neighborhood,
an area that obviously needed some investment. They set up an
?LANNING BOARD MINUTES February 6, 2007 Page 4
NEZ in single family neighborhoods to try to spur some
redevelopment (i.e. Cherry Hill, Kingsley neighborhood). In this
case because there is a specific development going on, they try to
keep it just to the immediate area. As projects develop, the
Riverpoint neighborhood just to the south could be another one that
is right for an NEZ, should the right conditions arise. This is
something the EDC will definitely look at as we get further along.
For this specific NEZ, there are contiguity issues with jumping the
river. To go farther south, they do not necessarily like to consider it
part of the 10 contiguous parcels. This NEZ is four parcels and
was originally platted at eleven parcels. So they can actually go
back and say the original plat from the City allows us to say that
there were eleven parcels at one time. Therefore it qualifies as an
NEZ. Mr. Hollister asked if this includes the Deluxe Inn. The EDC
has been working with the owner of the Deluxe Inn and possible
purchasers to redevelop the site. This NEZ is solely for the
Riverbend/Whitehall project. There is nothing going on right now
with the Deluxe Inn.
Ms. Cordill asked about the boundaries and if the applicant was
incorrect in his letter about expanding to Pennsylvania Avenue from
Washington Avenue. Mr. Anderson stated that when he drafted the
resolutions he made sure that the border was the east line of the
parcel that includes Whitehall Manor, Washington Avenue being
the west line, Main Street to the north and the river to the south.
Mr. Frederick stated that he did receive a suggestion for this area
when it gets to the development stage that there needs to be some
traffic calming or something done with the service drive for the
freeway entrance to make it pedestrian friendly. Currently, it is a
pretty good barrier and people who do cross there have a tough
time. Mr. Anderson stated that he has spoken with the property
owners. Some of those barriers actually have been helpful to them
considering the type of traffic there is around the Deluxe Inn. This
has kind of insolated them from having to much bleed over. The
owners would like to purchase the Deluxe Inn if it was the right
price. The owner of the Deluxe Inn is asking $1.8 million for that
site which is not reasonable.
There is a little print shop in there also doing some things to kind of
connect the area a little bit better should some redevelopment
come about. Just from working with the EDC, they thought about
S. Washington Avenue connecting ReoTown, downtown and even
up to Old Town, using whether it be TIFA funds or other funds to
streetscape. Things like that have definitely been thought about.
From a developer stand point, the Deluxe Inn likes the fact that they
are insolated right now. There is going to have to be better
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 6, 2007 Page 5
connectivity to the downtown to make this accessible because it
needs to be walkable.
He knows of some investors who are going to the Cherry Hill
neighborhood and are looking to make some pretty good
improvements in that area with rental properties. Printer's Row,
this development and the Cherry Hill neighborhood are three nicely
connected neighborhoods and three different market sectors for
potential home ownership or rentals whether they are Cooley
students, downtown workers or empty nesters who are coming
back into the City. The City needs to be able to connect them to
the downtown to make them viable as downtown residences. They
would like to see a little bit more in the pipeline before they start
coming to the table with it.
Mr. Frederick stated that his contact said that in order for this
development to be a success, the traffic along both sides of the
expressway is going to have to be controlled better than it is now.
Mr. Frederick stated that the other suggestion he received was to
get some sort of easement access to the river trail rather than
having people walk all the way down and around to the park and
have it on the other side of the bridge.
Mr. Frederick suggested improving the access from the NEZ area
down to the little road that comes off the service drive and circles
around to the park area on the other side by Cherry Hill. It would
make that much more pedestrian friendly than it currently is. Mr.
Anderson stated that he would talk to the building owners about it.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Dr. Bruch to place the Riverbend/Whitehall
Neighborhood Enterprise Zone (NEZ) back under the Urban Development Committee
report. On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (5-0).
B. Committee Reports
1. ZONING AND ORDINANCE COMMITTEE, Mr. Ruge, Chair
Next meeting, Wednesday, February 14, 2007, at 4 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Avenue, Department Conference Room.
2. URBAN DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, Mr. Frederick, Chair
a. Riverbend/Whitehall Neighborhood Enterprise Zone
(NEZ)
Mr. Frederick stated that NEZ was discussed and
recommended for approval, incorporating the previous
comments under the Consent Items agenda.
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 6, 2007 Page 6
Ms. Cordilll stated that there is the pedestrian aspect and
asked if landscaping could be done because it is a harsh
view. Ms. Stachowiak stated that at this point, it does not
sound like they are doing anything that would get them in to
the Planning Office for a site plan review. Mr. Hollister
stated that it is zoned correctly but it is just an issue because
they were asking for the NEZ, which is a tax break
essentially. He stated that it is zoned appropriately for what
the use is and the applicant does not have to come before
the Board for any exceptions.
Mr. Frederick stated that part of the landscaping in the
improvement of the site plan should be better access to the
river itself. There are some old bridge piers there that were
from the original Jackson road that went from Lansing to
Jackson across there long ago. Main Street was the main
street of downtown. That was where downtown was and
right across the river at the riverbend there was the first non-
native constructed shelter. A woman who is on the Historic
District Commission, either her grandfather or great-
grandfather came out west from New York state and ended
up in this area. He and his friend who came with him built a
lean-to on that point and stayed there for the summer and
before winter came, they headed back for New York. The
next summer they came back but before they reached the
area, they heard about gold being struck in California and
went out there. The guy did eventually come back and
develop part of that area into the original downtown Lansing.
This was long ago. After the Capitol building was built in its
present location, everything started to migrate north. This
particular area is kind of getting back to its roots.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Cordill, to recommend approval of the
Riverbend/Whitehall Neighborhood Enterprise Zone (NEZ). On a voice vote, the
motion carried unanimously (5-0).
APPROVED.
b. Master Plan Project
Mr. Frederick stated that the Master Plan project and a
neighborhood pattern book were discussed. No action was
taken.
Next meeting, Tuesday, February 27, 2007, at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
3. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 6, 2007 Page 7
4. EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
C. Old Business — None.
D. Report from Planning Manager— None.
E. Pending Items: Future action required
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a. Z-1-2006, 310/312 Chestnut
b. Z-3-2006,W. Edgewood
C. Z-17-2005, Polly& Benjamin
d. SLU-4-2006, 3215 W. Mt. Hope
e. Z-12-2006&SLU-7-2006 2727 Lyons Avenue
f. PRD-1-2006, New Faith Gardens,5304 Wise Road
2. Urban Development Committee
a. Master Plan Project
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planning Board
8. NEW BUSINESS — None.
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON
Mr. Hollister asked about new members. Mr. Rieske stated that he has not heard
anything.
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Ms. Cordill requested an excused absence for the February 20th meeting.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Dr. Bruch to approve an excused
absence request from Ms. Cordill for the February 20th meeting. On a voice vote,
the motion carried unanimously (5-0).
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS
a. Dollar Store-Willow Street& MLK Blvd.- landscaping &buffering (May 20, 2003)
b. Grovenburg property-dumpster in ROW (July 1,2003)
c. 2714 W.Jolly Road-church with large statue in front yard (January 20,2004)
d. W.Willow Street-Grace Tabernacle Church-no landscaping (May 4,2004)
e. Michigan Ave&Shepard Street-sign business-several banner signs nailed to the outside of building
(May 4, 2004)
f. 2702 S. Cedar Street- no landscaping (May 18, 2004)
g. 2410 S. Pennsylvania Ave.-no landscaping (November 3,2004)
h. 2200 W. Holmes Road- Bad Habits-excessive signs (May 3, 2005)
i. 2618 Cavanaugh Road.- registered rental &front yard paved, used for parking (October 4,2005)
j. 1712 W. Saginaw Street,W.of Sparrow's St. Lawrence campus—rogue used car salesman operating
in a print shop (April 18,2006)
k. Keeps Party Store-Aurelius Road-illegal signs(July 5,2006, July 18,2006& September 5, 2006)
I. Southeast Corner of Cavanaugh and Dunkel Roads—selling luxury cars at a residence (September 5,
2006)
m. Clarion Hotel—two big signs advertising Great Lakes Condominiums (December 5, 2006)
n. The Firm—review requirements for fenced outdoor patio(December 5, 2006)
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 6, 2007 Page 8
With item I, Mr. Frederick stated that owner was evicted and is no longer selling
cars and the house is up for sale.
Mr. Frederick stated that at 928 Pacific Street, a fence needs to be looked at. It
is a corner lot and the way the house is situated, the fence is in the front yard and
is 6 feet tall. It looks pretty new.
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 7:27 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
William C. Rieske, Secretary, Planning Board
PBMinutes.020607.doc
VPROVED WITH CORRECTIONS: Draft to Clerk January 19,2007
Pg 1, under item 2,"Mr." Bruch s/b"Ms." Bruch Approved February 6,2007
Pg. 14,2"d para., 11th line, "how"s/b"home", Pg. 15, under section 7.13.2, To Clerk February 9,2007
Mr. Frederick is Chair of UDC.
Minutes of the Regular Meeting >
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
4
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, January 9, 2007 ;n
1. OPENING SESSION r, rq
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Mr. Czekai, Chair. r'
A. Roll call: Present: Frederick, Ruge, Bruch, Cordill, Czekai, Hollister.
B. Staff Attending: Stachowiak, Rieske, Witherspoon, Boone.
C. Excused absences: None.
D. Absent: None.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
W. Ms. Bruch made a motion, seconded by Mr. Hollister to approve the agenda.
On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0).
3. COMMUNICATIONS
A. Letter from Habitat for Humanity regarding the CDBG funding.
4. HEARINGS
A. Proposed Objectives, Goals and Projected Use of Community
Development Block Grant HOME and Emergency Shelter Grant,
Action Plan 2008
Ms. Kate Koskinen, Representative of Allen Neighborhood Center
(ANC), 1619 E. Kalamazoo, stated that she administers the economic
development program. The ANC receives a small grant of CDBG funds to
do business revitalization and corridor improvement work on the east side.
This consists of administrating a facade improvement grant program,
developing joint promotion and marketing initiatives for the east side,
participation in City hosted collaboratives and way finding, district
branding, mapping and promoting integration of mutual support between
the commercial and residential sectors of the east side, and linking
business to a wide range of resources and services. She thanked the
Board for its continued support of ANC's mission to serve as a hub for
capacity building, neighborhood revitalization and other activities that
promote the health, safety, and stability of people if they live, work, study,
or play in Lansing's east side neighborhoods.
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES January 9, 2007 Page 2
Mr. Jason Weller, resident of 625 N. Hayford Avenue and Housing
Services Coordinator of the Allen Neighborhood Center, stated that
his position is not funded by CDBG funds. The housing services program
at Allen Neighborhood Center in conjunction with MSHDA certified housing
counseling programs in the City of Lansing, who also serve with Ingham
County, have been working in conjunction with the City Planning
Department on a number of housing related projects. Most importantly, he
has been dealing with the issue of foreclosure prevention. Last year, he
identified through the Development office that there were approximately
1,200 foreclosures in Ingham County and the task force that he is a part of
would very much like to see some increased funding for housing services
for the City of Lansing. He knows that it is a problem that the rest of the
state and also nationally is being recognized. Obviously there are dire
economic consequences for not only the families who are going through
foreclosures but also the greater economy and the well being of the City as
a whole.
Ms. Dorothy Jones, resident of 426 W. Barnes and representative of
the Moores Park Neighborhood Association, stated that she is
interested in knowing how many neighborhoods are going to be benefited
by the $25,000 cleanup designation. She would like to have it expanded
beyond the CDBG area. Ms. Boone stated that she cannot answer as to
how many because it depends upon the size of the neighborhood
associations. They tend to run from as little as $350 dollars to as much at
$6,000. The number of organizations served would depend on the size of
the ones that actually applied.
Ms. Jones asked about how to apply. Ms. Boone stated through the
Lansing Neighborhood Council.
Mr. Dan Stouffer, Representative of the Foundation of Child
Development located at 230 Bingham Street, stated that the foundation
has a building that they have had since 1995. The first floor houses a
preschool that will house 30 children and is a non-profit preschool. There
are two apartments upstairs that are rented out that help the foundation
pay the mortgage on the building. This last year, the foundation ran into a
problem which they had to patch with a very old sewer line that ran from
the building out to Bingham Street. The foundation is looking at a couple
of different options as much as $15,000 all the way up to $31,000 to repair
the sewer line. He will be talking with the Public Service Department this
next week and believes that the foundation can replace that sewer line a
chunk of which is probably original to the building which is 103 years old.
The foundation would like to keep this in service. Unfortunately, they do
not have the funds to actually replace that line. There is enough work with
replacing the break and maintaining the building as it is.
Mr. Stouffer stated that there are a couple of sections in the program that
talk about historic preservation. The foundation has been doing a lot of
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES January 9, 2007 Page 3
that since 1995 and previous owners since 1973 have been doing the
same. The foundation has managed to keep the building going.
Mr. Stouffer stated that the preschool employs two full time and two part
time people. It is a mixed bag with the two apartments upstairs, which the
foundation pays property taxes on and then about 50 or 60% of the
building the foundation does not pay property taxes on because the rest of
it is used for a non-profit use. There are a lot of low to moderate income
kids that come to the preschool, which is located over on Bingham Street
in the Bingham neighborhood.
Mr. Stouffer stated that he would like the Board to at least consider the
possibility of assisting the foundation with a partial fund for replacing the
sewer line. The foundation is approaching a couple of grant organizations
who hopefully will help. In the guidelines, he asked the Board to take a
look and see where this may fit. This is a mixed bag; it does not fit in one
or the other. It crosses lines a little bit. If the Board could take a look at it,
the foundation would really appreciate some sort of assistance in replacing
the sewer line.
Mr. Darnell Oldham, Sr., stated that he has a question regarding the
Public Services Department financing of two police officers positions. He
was wondering what those two positions are. He has not been aware that
Police officers positions are funded under the CDBG program.
He stated that every year during this time, the homeowner rehab program
includes loans and grants for rehabilitation of owner occupied housing
units. $26,604 was spent. He asked how many homes in the City of
Lansing are going to be able to be refurbished or have some type of work
done on it. There is an awful lot of need out here for additional funding in
this area each year. He has asked this question time and time again at the
Lansing City Council. Does the City of Lansing warehouse and stock pile
red tagged homes in order to keep a certain amount of Federal funding
coming in because of the number of red tagged homes that the City has?
He stated that no one has ever answered that question and certainly
$26,604 is not a drop in the bucket as far as the need out there in the
community. There is so much blight in the community because people
cannot always afford to keep up their homes. That is why there are so
many red tags. People have come before City Council because of the
shabby work by these contractors that the City makes a list of to do the
work out here on these homes under the rehab program. He stated that
something needs to be done about that and certainly, more money needs
to be put into this area to help improve the housing stock in the City.
There is just a great need out there and people are being fined $600 a
day.
Mr. Czekai stated that the City has had the Community Police Officers and
has been a part of the program for a long time. Ms. Boone stated that she
is not sure how long but it has been very long standing. She stated that
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there are two community Police officers at this point, only partially funded
through this program because the funding has been shrinking. The
allocation to cover the cost of these police officers has been diminished
over the last two years. One officer works in the North precinct and the
other one works in the ReoTown area. This has been that way for several
years.
Ms. Bruch asked if there was a possibility to increase the amount of dollars
for this owner rehab program and asked how this number is established.
Ms. Boone stated that home owner rehab program is funded both out of
CDBG and HOME. It is much easier for the Development Office to qualify
projects using CDBG funds than it is with the more stringent home funding
source. The difference being that when working with CDBG funding, a
leaking roof can be replaced. With the HOME funding, if a leaking roof is
replaced and there is also other Code problems with that structure, the
entire structure must be brought up to code or the roof cannot be funded.
The is the reason that the Development Office is not proposing to put a lot
more money from the HOME source into the home owner rehab program.
The Development Office is proposing to continue a strong emphasis on the
home owner rehab program using CDBG funds, which will be augmented
by this new grant that her office just received for lead hazard reduction.
There is a Federal requirement that every time you touch one of these
structures, the lead hazards have to be removed. That has been an
expense that has been solely born out of the HOME or CDBG funds. Now
with this lead grant, the Development Office can cover those costs.
Councilmember Kathy Dunbar stated that the City has a pot of almost $1.3
million that is used to rehab homes, and a tiny fraction of it is set aside
under the HOME program. But it does not mean that it is the only money
set aside to actually repair the houses. There is still this $1,263,000 that is
available. It is just because of the stringent requirements that the City only
funds that little piece. She did not want anyone thinking that it was all the
money the City had for home improvements.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak, Mr. Czekai closed the public hearing
for Proposed Objectives, Goals and Projected Use of Community
Development Block Grant HOME and Emergency Shelter Grant,
Action Plan 2008 and was referred to the next Urban Development
Committee meeting scheduled to meet on January 30, 2007 at 4:00 in the
Planning and Neighborhood Development Conference Room at 316 N.
Capitol Avenue.
B. PRD-1-2006, New Faith Gardens, 5304 Wise Road
This is a request by New Faith Gardens, LLC for approval of a Planned
Residential Development on the south 5.88 acres of the Lansing Church
of God in Christ property at 5304 Wise Road. The applicant is proposing
the construction of 24 townhouses and 24 senior citizen apartments.
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Ms. Stachowiak gave a brief overview.
Ms. Cordill stated that she would like to see an enlarged site plan for the
packet next time. She had difficulty seeing the reduced site plan.
Ms. Bruch stated that she would like to see the plan encompassing a little
bit more of the neighborhood, especially to the east so that the Board can
see the street layout and how it is going to connect to the neighborhood.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that it will not be connected to the neighborhood
and that is not the way it was proposed right now. If she is correct, that is
the way the neighbors want it.
Mr. Ruge asked if the project designer consulted anyone before proposing
these snout houses. Ms. Stachowiak said no and that even if the current
ordinance was in affect, this would not fall under that because these are
not public streets; they are private streets. The only way it would not be
permitted is if one or more of these units face Wise Road because that is
the only public street frontage. The ordinance has no affect on facing
private streets because it is treated no differently as if it were a private
driveway. Mr. Ruge stated that he does not think that snout houses would
be able to give the neighborhood a very neighborly feel. It cuts you off
from your neighbor.
Mr. Frederick asked what ordinances are applicable to this. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that it would be that the porch cannot extend any closer
to a public street than the front of the house. Mr. Frederick stated what
you are saying is that there is no opportunity for input whatsoever. Ms.
Stachowiak stated even if the current ordinance was in effect, it would not
prevent this situation.
Mr. Samuel Duncan, Jr., applicant and Pastor of the Lansing Church
of God in Christ, stated that they have been at the current location since
the mid 1970s and the proposed development is adjacent to the current
church. Basically, they have gone through quite a bit of planning and
preparation. They have met with the neighborhood association on several
occasions to address any concerns or considerations that they may have
had. They feel that these have been addressed quite adequately in their
planning phase.
Mr. Duncan stated that these are not Section 8 housing units. They are
targeting working class families and seniors. They have gone through
some diligent efforts to make sure that the elevations of the units are no
higher than those of the present homes in that area and neighborhood.
Any of the concerns that were raised during the meetings with the
neighborhood association have been addressed and resolved in one form
or another. Again, this is a unique situation where they are not a
developer somewhere in California or New York. They have a personal
interest in this project and they take pride in what they do. As a ministry,
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they feel that they should be more than just about the spiritual person but
as far as the natural person as well in providing decent, safe and
affordable housing or working class families and senior citizens as well.
He stated that the units in size are two and three bedrooms in the
townhouse units, two bedrooms in the ranch style cottages, and the
square footage runs anywhere from 1,150 square feet to just under 1,300
square feet on some of the units. The configuration, the size and even the
average cost per unit he believes will be an asset and will fit right in with
the neighborhood.
He stated that being a non-profit, they are not money oriented or
motivated. That is not their primary purpose or drive for this but is part of
their focus for their ministry to be able to have an umbrella of services.
This happens to be one of those facets that they are endeavoring to go
forth with. He asked for the Board's favorable consideration.
He stated that the rents will range anywhere from $730 to just over $1,000
per month. He feels that everyone is entitled to decent, safe and
affordable housing. They take a very personal vested interest in what they
are doing there and take much pride in being a part of the Wexford
Heights subdivision and community. He is a former resident of that
neighborhood and is very familiar with that area. He would certainly not
attempt to do anything that would be a derogatory statement or move in
that particular community. They take much pride in being the church in
that community and extending a collaborative effort with the Wexford
Heights Association there in the neighborhood.
Ms. Bruch stated that it looks like only part of the lot is getting developed
and asked if there are future plans for that? Mr. Duncan stated that is for
possible future plans for expansion of the church. Ms. Bruch stated that
she was just trying to see how the development might connect to the other
parcel as well.
Mr. Ruge gave the Reverend a heads up so that he doesn't feel
ambushed at the Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting. He stated
that traditionally several members of the committee had looked negatively
on the type of design that was proposed with the garages in the front.
They feel that having the garages in the front detracts from a
neighborhood feel because people are not encouraged to be on their
porch or interact with each other because the garage is blocking the view
of the front of the house. He asked the Reverend to consider seeing what
kinds of designs can be done to alleviate that problem. Reverend Duncan
stated that Mr. Du Russell could better address this.
Mr. Frederick stated that he is concerned that there are no sidewalks in
the plan which is another detriment to the neighborhood in the same vein
as the snout houses. He would like the architect and the applicant to
consider making the community a little bit more walkable.
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Mr. Brett Stockhill, Design Engineer, stated that there is a sidewalk
running throughout the interior of the site and on the interior of the circle.
Per the Lansing ordinance, there is a sidewalk that will have to be installed
along the whole frontage of Wise Road. There is connectivity from this
site to Wise Road and to the neighboring communities. The property to
the immediate east, is all undeveloped and is both the park and BWL
power station. Farther to the north is actually getting into residences.
There is nothing to the east which is why they show less of it.
Mr. Stockhill stated that they are proposing a berm along the entire
perimeter per some of the neighborhood meetings, planting those berms
for some screening to break the buildings. The building is a two-story
building which is quite similar to a lot of the residences in there. There
were a lot of complaints like it is an 8 story monstrosity. He stated that it is
not and with breaks in the roof line which can be seen in the architectural
renderings, it is very community oriented.
Councilmember Dunbar asked if these would be sold for single family. Mr.
Czekai stated they are rentals. She assumed that fair housing issues
were not an issue and asked if they were looking to restrict the rentals to
members of the congregation in general. Reverend Duncan stated that it
would be open, and MSHDA has guidelines on how a lot of that transpires.
He stated they will not restrict it to just the members of the congregation.
On the same token, he is not precluded from being a resident there. To
him, that is an ideal situation to have congregational members right next
door. This is another added benefit and feature.
Mr. Mike Sears, resident of 16910 Black Walnut, East Lansing, stated
that he just moved out to East Lansing not long ago. This neighborhood
was his home and he went to Harry Hill. He grew up in this neighborhood.
He owns a substantial chuck of real estate around that neighborhood.
This development is a bad deal. These guys are getting tax breaks and
the City is in the middle of closing down a senior center on the north side
of town. This is just not right for them to get a tax break and then rent out
as income property where they are probably not going to be paying
income taxes because the church owns it. So we all lose and they win.
There is probably about 5% of the City up for sale right now. He has been
doing real estate for around 20 years and that about 5% of every single
parcel is for sale, ball park figure. That is a lot of houses, and to add in 48
more units, these guys are getting a tax break and the little old lady
around the corner does not get anything. This is just wrong. He stated
that this proposal should be turned down.
Ms. Meggean Bos, resident of 3115 Nonette Drive, stated that she
moved to the Wexford Heights neighborhood just over six years ago and
she likes the fact that the neighborhood was quiet and had space. So
many of the houses she looked for in Lansing were on top of each other.
She finally found a house that was part of the City but yet she had a yard
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with woods in the back. If this housing project is approved, what attracted
her to buy this home in Lansing will be taken away.
She stated that after doing some research, she had concerns. The
median age in the 48911 area is 31.2 with the average household size
being 2.52 and an income of just under $40,000. The majority of the
houses were built between 1970 and 1979. The City has less than 1,000
houses built between 1999 and 2000. The Lansing School District is
losing students to area districts. Over 80% of Holt school of choice
students are from the south side of Lansing. She asked why put more
rental property in the area. If the City is trying to attract families to stay in
Lansing, why put up more complexes, like town homes and senior
apartments. The City already has lots of problem areas with town house
communities on the south side. The Jolly and Waverly neighborhoods are
pretty notorious with crime in these complexes. Why add more? She
stated that the Development Office states on their mission that they want
to promote and maintain good and healthy neighborhoods in Lansing. If
this project is approved, it will go against the Development Office's
statement entirely. She thanked the Board for its time.
Mr. Roger Gross, Attorney at Law and resident of 5313 Catalpa,
stated that he has over 300 feet of frontage with the church property. He
has lived in the area for over 20 years and raised his family there.
Reverend Duncan and the church have done their level best to create a
positive environment. They have cleaned up trash, taken vacant land and
added drainage, and have literally made a park behind the church.
Reverend Duncan and the church have been extremely responsible to any
issue raised by the community. When it came time to clean up a lot that
had bottles and concrete, it was cleaned up. It was one complaint to
Reverend Duncan. He stated that they have addressed how the place will
be managed. There can be town houses and rental housing that is not
going to be crime ridden. There are town houses all around Lansing in
particularly on the south side that have strict management rules. He
stated that we have been told and assured that there will be strict
management rules. This is one of the issues. People need housing and
hearing people come down here and indicate "well, not in my back yard" is
disheartening. We have to move past this. He thinks that the church has
extreme credibility and has demonstrated that they can live within the
community and enhance the community. He has more frontage than
anybody in here except the gentleman who has this big vacant land. He
stated that it needs to be cleaned up and the owner has not done it. The
church has cleaned up their property. He stated that the Board needs to
approve this. People need a place to live and the whole attitude of "not in
my back yard", as far as the Planning Board, you have to look past that.
This is a credible body, non-profit, and has lived well within the
community. He stated that Reverend Duncan has done an excellent job.
He hopes that the Board approves this and provides a place for people to
live.
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Ms. Monica Dungey, resident 3563 Coachlight and President of
Coachlight Neighborhood Association, introduced herself to Reverend
Duncan and stated that there are almost 1,500 rental units in a three mile
radius of Coachlight and that is a lot. She stated that the community is
overwhelmed with rentals. Traditions was just built that has a tax credit
and has 169 units. Georgetown has an income limit and has 160 units.
Pinebrook has 136 units. She was not able to get a hold of Silverstone, or
Summers Place. Waverly Park has 504 units at $475 a month for rent.
Southbrook Villa is Section 8 housing and has 129 units, with 50 units
being senior units. She thinks that on the southwest side there is plenty of
rental units and said it would be nice to see the housing stats. She does
not think more rentals are needed. She stated that Ms. Boone mentioned
that the City has the highest rental vacancies going. She asked why
would the City make more. She stated let's get some home ownership
over here.
Mr. Dan Goff, resident of 3120 Nonette Drive, stated that his property is
adjacent to the proposed property. He thanked Reverend Duncan for his
comments. Reverend Duncan and the church have done a good job, from
his perspective, in keeping the grass cut and maintaining a credible and
sound organization. He asked how close would the berm be to the
property lines and how close would it be to the residential property lines.
He also asked how much jurisdiction, more specifically, is the church
going to play in their input as far as this housing is concerned. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that she cannot answer the berm question yet. It is a
good question but she cannot answer it because she does not have
enough information. First, it would have to be reviewed by the City
Engineers to determine if it is even a good location for it. They have to
look at it to make sure that the water that drains off of that berm is not
going to adversely affect the neighbors who live on the side of it. How the
drainage pattern and the topography is in that area will depend also on
how far away or how close that berm can be to the property lines.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that the church has indicated to the City that they
will manage the property. It will not be an absentee landlord type
situation. Mr. Goff asked if by managing it that would mean collecting rent
and taking care of the grounds. Ms. Stachowiak said yes and that they
would do all the things that a typical property management company
would do.
Ms. Brenda Cowles, resident of 3301 Nonette Drive, stated that she
has lived in this area for about 15 years. She does not know the Pastor
because she never knew that he was a part of the community and never
saw him. She went to the last Planning Committee meeting with them.
She was not very pleased that within a one to three mile walking distance,
there is Arbor at Georgetown with 160 units. Aspen Hollow, Georgetown,
Highland Coop, Pinebrook Manor, duplexes owned by Bruce Kruger on
Wise Road, duplexes owned by Bruce Kruger on Jolly Road, Stonecrest,
Arbor Point, Summer Place, Willow Wood Apartments are all low income
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and Section 8 housing. They all have vacancies right now. It took her two
days to do this homework. She does not really feel that there needs to be
more rentals there. She thinks that the apartments that are available
really need to be filled right now. When she called, the vacancies for the
rentals were 90% open and people could move in. She thinks they need
to keep the green space. When you put that many people in such a small
area, there is a high crime rate there and they all know that. She stated
that Jolly and Waverly are the worst. There is a lot of drug problems there
and the homeowners are really trying to keep it nice. They get a lot of
problems from some of the rental properties. The crime rate has gone up,
taxes have gone up, and the value of the properties has gone down. She
feels like they are pushing the home owners out and it is like they are
turning the south side into rental apartments. They are forcing home
owners to move away and sell their homes.
Ms. Cowles has witnessed drive by shootings and stated that it was her
grandson who was shot at. For two years, her grandson would not come
to her home and visit her. She had to go visit him. She believes that she
lost her God given right because of the crime in that area. She lost her
right as a grand parent because of the crime rate. She stated that they do
not need more rentals. They need to think about improving the houses
over there. She thanked the Board.
Mr. Darnell Oldham, Sr., resident of 3815 Berwick Drive, stated that he
was not part of any community meetings but is very active in the
Churchhill Downs Community Association and rarely misses meetings.
He checked with his neighborhood association president today and he has
not received any notice of any hearings concerning this project. Churchhill
Downs is one of the largest neighborhood associations in southwest
Lansing.
He stated that there is enough tax credits being given away to the rich and
famous in these upscale developments that are going on around the City
of Lansing. Certainly he thinks his neighborhood and his community in
southwest Lansing has an abundance of rental properties. These
complexes all have problems. New management comes in, the City
meets with them, the Police Department meets with them, and after a few
months of those meetings, the crime rate still continues. Southwest
Lansing needs more than just rental properties around this area. Here,
they are going to bring additional people in and they do no have a south
side community center, which a number of people have been fighting for
and speaking about for a number years. What will be done with the
people coming into this area? Where are their kids going to play? Is there
going to be a playground provided?
He stated that the church is going to manage this property but it says that
an organization accredited by MSHDA on its approved management
company list will be the selected manager of the development for a
compliance period with MSHDA Mortgage for 35 years. Is the church one
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of those listed managers that is going to meet the MSHDA requirements?
He stated that is a good question. He asked about the property taxes and
that taxes are needed in the City of Lansing. He stated that the City gives
away the store each Monday night in these abatements and tax credits to
the rich and famous.
His concern is Wolverine Pipeline is still lingering over the south side of
Lansing. Should we increase the number of people whose lives are going
to be threatened?
Mr. Mark Simon, resident 3313 Radford and representative of
Coachlight, stated that he has not heard anything about this hearing. He
lives in the adjacent neighborhood. He knows that there are more than
enough apartment complexes on the south end. What is really needed
right now more than anything else is single family owner occupied units
being established, built and developed to draw more permanent residents
to this area who are going to have a greater concern and awareness for
what is going on in the south end and the improvement.
He stated that there is an issue right now. They have a hard time of
getting enough police representation in the south end in that particular
section. With an abrupt addition of 48 units, he asked about the Police
section that they patrol and if there was going to be more police
representation down there with this or will it stay the same.
Ms. Janice Gross, resident of 5313 Catalpa, stated that she shares a
boundary line with the church. She raised her children in this area at the
Catalpa residence and has always felt safe walking around there with
them or by herself. Her grandchildren love coming over to grandma's
house because they have a nice back yard. They see a lot of kids playing
in what is called the turtle lot, which is right next door to her. She knows
there is a lot of crime in adjacent neighborhoods. The crime rate around
the immediate neighborhood that is closest to the church has been kept
down. She feels that a lot of the things being said about where the
children play are unfounded as she has always found places to play with
Benjamin Davis Park being next door and a lot of the community activities
there at the Boys and Girls Club which is not too far away.
She does see the rental facilities and stated that there are a lot of them
around there. She said it might be nice to see a rental facility that is
committed to doing it well. She feels like the church is committed to doing
it well and maybe could be an example for others. She thanked the
Board.
Mr. Czekai stated that there is a lot of discussion regarding vacancies and
the different rates in the City. As a part of getting any MSHDA financing,
any applicant has to get a market study. He asked if it would be possible
to have this present at the Committee meeting. Ms. Stachowiak said sure.
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Mr. Jay Moon, resident of 5423 Catalpa, stated that he is not the actual
home owner but sister Cathy Broker is and he has lived with her for the
past 15 or more years. He is fairly familiar with the neighborhood and the
surrounding areas. He agrees with the comments that were made on the
rental properties. His property abuts the proposed property and is unique
in that area. It is the lowest area as far as land. Right outside the back
property line the elevation of the field or the property to be developed
immediately goes up approximately 4 to 5 feet at this point. He actually
built a 60 foot flower bed along the back of the property about 10 or 15
yeas ago because just the natural run off from that area flooded his back
yard at least half way to three quarters to the foundation of the house. He
has major concerns about the berm being built there and how far away
from the property lines that it is going to be.
He stated that they mentioned they want to put landscaping trees on top of
that berm and he has major concerns about what type of foliage will be put
there such as leaf trees verses evergreens. With the maintenance of
those trees and the removal of the leaves, obviously it is going to blow a
lot over the property lines, it creates more work for the adjacent home
owners along those lines. If there was going to be a development and if it
was approved, he would like to at least see some kind of a non-
maintenance tree that would provide privacy and some kind of a noise
barrier year round verses a leaf tree that would only be good for 4 to 5
months.
He stated that putting that many units into a small area like this, if there
has been any planning or consideration on this additional stress on sewer,
water, and electric in the area. Again, there are numerous multiple unit
houses in the complexes in that area. Wise Road was just recently
repaved. It used to be a four lane road with two lanes in each direction.
Now it is a two lane road in each direction with a bike path and a parking
area. To add that many units onto Wise Road could extremely add stress
as far as with the Hill Academy being there and two other elementary
schools. The traffic that it could create could also cause a lot of problems
on Wise Road. With schools being where they are located around
Wexford Heights subdivision, it creates a lot of traffic. A lot of people take
a short cut through the subdivision to get over to Waverly and Jolly instead
of going up and waiting in line to make the turn. Since they have redone
Wise Road and made only a two lane road, that is going to exasperate the
problem even more.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak, Mr. Czekai closed the public hearing
for PRD-1-2006, New Faith Gardens, 5304 Wise Road and was referred
to the next Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting scheduled to meet
on January 17, 2007 at 4:00 in the Planning and Neighborhood
Development Conference Room at 316 N. Capitol Avenue.
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C. Z-17-2006, Part of 715 W. Willow Street, "B" Residential District to
"DM-1" Residential District
This is a request by LHC Nonprofit Development Corporation to rezone
6.8 acres of the former Michigan School for the Blind property located at
715 W. Willow Street from "B" Residential District to "DM-1" Residential
District. The purpose of the rezoning is to permit the former
Administration Building on the site to be used for up to fifty (50) units of
senior citizen housing.
Ms. Stachowiak gave a brief overview.
Mr. Hollister asked if this would be senior housing. Ms. Stachowiak said it
would be senior citizen housing. He asked if care would be provided. Ms.
Stachowiak stated no care provided and that it is not a residential care
facility. It is just housing and would be managed by the Housing
Commission.
Mr. Ruge stated that it is quite a big parcel and asked how many units the
applicant could put on this much property and how much is being
proposed in terms of density. Ms. Stachowiak stated it comes out to 7.35
units per acre with 50 units on 6.8 acres of land. The "DM-1" district will
allow up to 19.8 units per acres. The applicant has no intentions of
building any additional units. She stated that Chris Stuchell, Director of
the Housing Commission, mentioned something in the latest meeting
about having some type of restriction on the property that would prevent
any additional buildings from being constructed. They already have that
covered. Mr. Ruge asked what kinds of restrictions. Mr. Stuchell stated
that it is a historic covenant and is on all of the green space and the east
side of the campus.
Mr. Hollister asked instead of rezoning 6.8, could something smaller be
rezoned. Ms. Stachowiak stated that something smaller could be rezoned
as long as the density is within the "DM-1" district limits. Mr. Stuchell
stated that as long as it met the requirements for the 50 units.
Mr. Chris Stuchell, Director of the Housing Commission, stated that
he does appreciate the Board's consideration of the zoning change. They
have some very exciting plans drawn up for this building. It is the main
focal point of the campus. If you are on Grand River and Pine and see the
building with all the pillars, that entire parcel (6.88 acres) will remain as is
except for directly behind the Administration building. The old service
building will be demolished for parking because of the parking
requirements they will have for the Administrative building. Basically, the
entire east side of the campus stays.
They have approximately 50 elderly only apartments and the
administrative offices will be moving there as well and be taking up the
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entire first floor. The building will become the Housing Commission's new
home.
Mr. Walter Brown, resident of 1310 Knollwood, President of the
Knollwood/Willow Neighborhood Association, and Executive
Director of the North Network Center, stated that he is right across the
street from this property. He has lived there for 23 years and founded the
neighborhood association at the request of the residents in the area
because they wanted him to help them get rid of the drugs in the
neighborhood.
He is quite concerned with the rezoning. The North Network Center has
been located on that property for nine years. He has been there for
almost seven years as the director. He stated that the City is in the
process of evicting the North Network Center from the property. What
they do is provide services for senior citizens and residents, and an after
school program and different programs for citizens in that area. He has
not heard one thing about any safety net to protect these citizens from all
these drugs and different things that go on in that community around this
property. Having lived there for 23 years, he is well aware of what goes
on around that property. There are mostly low income people in that area.
There are some #yew home owners. There is a lot of rental properties and
that is how the drugs are able to stay infested in that area. These drug
dealers prey on old people and people that come to the store. He is
wondering what type of safety net that the Housing Commission is willing
to provide for these people they are going to stick in there right in the
middle of these negative activities that are going on in that area. He has
not heard anything about this. To stick these people in there just to get
revenues coming in to the Housing Commission, he does not think is a
good idea. He does not object to the proposal if they are going to have
some type of safety net in there. They are kicking us out and that is what
they do. He thinks that the Board should take careful consideration into
granting the Housing Commission this change because he is going to
keep close track of what goes on with that property.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak, Mr. Czekai closed the public hearing
for Z-17-2006, Part of 715 W. Willow Street, "B" Residential District to
"DM-1" Residential District and was referred to the next Zoning and
Ordinance Committee meeting scheduled to meet on January 17, 2007 at
4:00 in the Planning and Neighborhood Development Conference Room at
316 N. Capitol Avenue.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (3 minutes each)
Seeing no one wishing to address the Board, Mr. Czekai closed the public
comment period.
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6. RECESS was not taken by the Board.
7. BUSINESS SESSION
A. Consent Items
1. Minutes for Approval: November 1, 2006
The minutes of November 1, 2006 were
APPROVED w/corrections:
Pg. 11, 2 d para., Mr. Hollister closed the public comment period.
Minutes for Approval: November 14, 2006
The minutes of November 14, 2006 were
APPROVED.
Minutes for Approval: December 5, 2006
The minutes of December 5, 2006 were
APPROVED.
B. Committee Reports
1. ZONING AND ORDINANCE COMMITTEE, Mr. Ruge, Chair
Ms. Stachowiak asked who would be on the Committee this
semester. Ms. Bruch stated that she would be back on the
Committee.
Next meeting, Wednesday, January 17, 2007, at 4 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Avenue, Department Conference Room.
2. URBAN DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, Mr. Frederick, Vise Chair
Next meeting, Tuesday, January 30, 2007, at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
3. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
Mr. Hollister stated that the Committee of the Whole met earlier this
evening. Mr. Rieske made a presentation concerning the Master
Plan and gave an update on the Grand Vision. He stated that no
action was taken.
4. EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
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C. Old Business — None.
D. Report from Planning Manager— None.
E. Pending Items: Future action required
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a. Z-1-2006, 310/312 Chestnut
b. Z-3-2006,W. Edgewood
c. Z-17-2005, Polly& Benjamin
d. SLU-4-2006, 3215 W. Mt. Hope
e. Z-12-2006&SLU-7-2006 2727 Lyons Avenue
f. PRD-1-2006, New Faith Gardens,5304 Wise Road
2. Urban Development Committee
a. Master Plan Project
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planning Board
8. NEW BUSINESS — None.
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON
Mr. Czekai stated that he is a renter and not only is he a renter but he makes a
living as an asset manager for a national non-profit that specifically works with
low income housing tax credits. He stated that it is very frustrating to sit here and
listen to individuals and everybody was talking about getting the renters out.
They refer to renters with such disdain (i.e. causing crime, selling drugs). He
does not think he is doing anything illegal. It is just very frustrating.
Mr. Czekai stated that in his almost three years on the Board, has never seen a
Councilmember sit up here with the Board and participate actively with them.
The Board has seen the occasional Councilmember in the back of the room but
never participating. He just wanted to thank Councilmember Dunbar for
participating and attending the meeting.
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Mr. Frederick stated that with regards to the attitude toward the renters, it is
projecting derogatory or negative activities that other renters may or may not
have taken on someone who is applying to develop some land at the same
density they would be allowed if they built single family homes, assuming that
they are going to be poor managers and are not going to let anything in but drug
dealers. He has to really congratulate the applicant for sitting here and taking all
of that. His appreciation goes to the applicant for not getting up and getting
angry. Mr. Czekai stated that it is a disappointment to all those individuals that
spoke out against low income housing tax credits for one public hearing but not
for the other.
Ms. Bruch stated that her class will be doing Grand River corridors again and
they are going to try and participate with the Grand Vision team. Again, at the
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end of the semester everyone is going to be welcomed to see the projects.
Hopefully they will have a tighter route. Mr. Frederick said feel free to call on him
anytime to participate in the class since he is on the ReoTown vision. Ms. Bruch
stated that if anyone wanted to participate in the class, let her know and she
would be happy to bring them in to talk to the students.
Mr. Ruge inquired about the Teen Challenge project. Ms. Stachowiak stated that
the proposal was sent to Mayor's Office after the last meeting.
Councilmember Dunbar asked if all the public hearings have to occur in front of
Council. Ms. Stachowiak stated that the only issues that Council does not have
to hold a public hearings on are PRDs and Lot Splits. Hearings have to be held
for rezonings and special land use permits. Councilmember Dunbar asked if the
hearings had to be held during Monday nights meetings. Ms. Stachowiak stated
that she thinks the Charter requires it. Mr. Czekai stated that Councilmember
Dunbar had a really good idea of not to create more work, but it actually might
help just touching base with her outside of the meeting and kind of going over
what the process is currently, what it has been, and what are some successful
ways of getting things through the system a little bit more quickly.
Ms. Cordill welcomed Councilmember Dunbar to the meeting and just wanted her
to also realize that she is seeing about three fourths of what the Board's strength
could be because there are two vacancies. The Board has been at this level for
some time. Councilmember Dunbar said she imagined that it affects the
Committees. Ms. Cordill stated that unfortunately at times, especially in the
summer with vacations, applicants have had to wait. The Board has had to
reschedule some meetings because it was not able to make quorum. During the
rest of the year, it has been more successful. She stated that the Board is hoping
to get new Board members.
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS
a. Dollar Store-Willow Street& MLK Blvd.- landscaping & buffering (May 20, 2003)
b. Grovenburg property-dumpster in ROW (July 1,2003)
c. 2714 W.Jolly Road-church with large statue in front yard (January 20,2004)
d. W.Willow Street-Grace Tabernacle Church-no landscaping (May 4,2004)
e. Michigan Ave&Shepard Street-sign business-several banner signs nailed to the outside of building
(May 4, 2004)
f. 2702 S. Cedar Street- no landscaping (May 18, 2004)
g. 2410 S. Pennsylvania Ave.- no landscaping (November 3,2004)
h. 2200 W. Holmes Road- Bad Habits-excessive signs(May 3, 2005)
i. 2618 Cavanaugh Road.- registered rental &front yard paved, used for parking (October 4,2005)
j. 3027 Aurelius Road—fence in front yard (April 18,2006)
k. 1712 W. Saginaw Street,W.of Sparrow's St. Lawrence campus—rogue used car salesman operating
in a print shop (April 18, 2006)
I. Keeps Party Store-Aurelius Road- illegal signs (July 5,2006, July 18,2006&September 5, 2006)
m. Southeast Corner of Cavanaugh and Dunkel Roads—selling luxury cars at a residence (September 5,
2006)
n. Clarion Hotel—two big signs advertising Great Lakes Condominiums (December 5, 2006)
o. The Firm—review requirements for fenced outdoor patio (December 5, 2006)
With item n, Mr. Frederick stated that it is actually the Red Cedar Lodge
condominiums. What they are apparently doing, is selling some of their rooms or
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suites in the hotel as condominiums. He said presumably that is legal. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that it is legal.
Councilmember Dunbar inquired about the Deluxe Inn and stated that it not a
permanent residential system. It has electric cooking units and some of them are
plugged into walls. People are living in these rooms and this needs to be
addressed. She asked if this would go though the Planning Office. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that it would be Code Compliance. It is not zoned for a hotel
but is zoned for multiple family. It is zoned for what they are using it for. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that she would contact the Code Compliance Office.
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 8:34 p.m.
Respecjfplly submitted,
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William C. Rieske, Secretary, Planning Board
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