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Approved July 2, 2002
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Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, June 18, 2002
1. OPENING SESSION
The meeting was called to order at 7:05 p.m. by Chairman Frederick.
A. Roll call. Present: Frederick, Cordill, Keene, Ruge, Smith.
B. Staff Attending: Ruff, Stachowiak, Rieske, Stanich.
C. Excused absences: Ms. Foster, Ms. Patrick.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Mr. Frederick requested an amendment to the agenda. He stated that under
New Business there would be excused absence requests for Ms. Keene on
July 161h and for Mr. Ruge on July 2nd. It was also decided to change the Zoning
and Ordinance Committee meeting to July 16t" prior to the Planning Board
meeting.
It was moved by Ms. Keene, supported by Mr. Smith to approve the agenda as
amended. On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (5-0).
3. COMMUNICATIONS
A. Letter of opposition regarding ACT-9-2002 from Friends of Durant Park.
4. HEARINGS
A. ACT-9-2002, N. Washington Sq. - Shiawassee to Schoolcraft, LCC
Request for ROW Vacation
Lansing Community College requests that the City vacate the Washington
Avenue right-of-way (ROW) through the campus, between Shiawassee
Street and Schoolcraft Avenue. By City Council resolution on August 13,
1973, the ROW was closed to vehicular traffic and allowed to be
incorporated into the campus design. This is not a matter of rezoning.
Bill Rieske gave a brief overview.
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Mr. Ruge inquired about Lansing Community College's (LCC)
development of the right-of-way. Mr. Rieske stated the Planning Office is
currently reviewing the LCC Master Plan dated October/November 2001.
Mr. Ruff stated that the LCC application indicated concern that future
administrations or councils might take resolution and re-open the right-of-
way.
Barbara Larson, resident of 6100 Coleman Road, East Lansing, and
Vice President of Administrative Services and Finance at LCC, stated
that also attending with her tonight is Mr. Bill Darr, Director of Facilities
Planning and Operation. In 1973, Lansing City Council unanimously
approved the closing of Washington Avenue to the vehicular traffic so that
Washington Avenue, now called Washington Mall, could be incorporated
into the college's campus design. After the closing of the mall, the college
constructed the Gannon Vocational Technical building which includes the
parking ramp.
The mall has become an important focal point for the campus, a site for
student and community events that together form the fabric of what a
college campus signifies. Each summer the outdoor amphitheater on the
college's mall is the site of several performing arts events that attract
thousands of community members. The annual Cinco de Mayo and
Carribean festivals and the recent rally honoring the college's softball
national champions have filled the mall with students, faculty, staff, and
community members.
In 2002, LCC's Board of Trustees approved a long range Facilities Master
Plan. There was input from the Downtown Neighborhood Association,
City of Lansing Planning Department as well as faculty, staff, and
students. As a result of this plan, the college is about to embark on a $43
million building and renovation project on the downtown campus. One of
the goals of the Master Plan is to compress college functions into the core
of the campus reducing the college's footprint downtown. The second
goal of the Master Plan is to improve parking. The completed Master Plan
will move 400 parked cars at peak times by relocating student and staff
parking demands to functions planned for the college's new Delta site. A
new health building with a projected budget of $19 million is to be
constructed along the west side of Washington Mall. Renovations to the
Gannon Vocational Technical building which sits along the east side of
Washington Mall will follow completion of the health building. The new
health building is to be sited along Washington Mall, not on Washington
Mall. Construction will not impact the utility easements currently available
to Ameritech, Board of Water and Light, and others requiring access to
services.
There have been some inquiries about the beautiful rose garden which
now sits to the west of where the new health building is planned. College
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staff have already spoken to members of the Rose Society who maintain
the rose garden. The college will work with society members to relocate
the rose garden to an appropriate alternative site on campus so that it is
out of harms way during construction.
The vacation of Washington Mail is a spring board to LCC's downtown
commitment and development. The college has been around for 45 years
and will be here for at least another 45 years. Phase three of the Master
Plan calls for the expansion of Dart Auditorium which will bring even more
people to the Washington Mall area. In addition to the construction and
renovation of buildings, the college will be expanding the amphitheater by
adding a roof, additional lawn seating for performances, and other
activities. The college's commitment to the City is evident. Most recently
the college doubled its boundaries for the employee home ownership
program. Now employees may receive a $5,000 down payment to
purchase and live in a home on any one of a hundred and twenty-five
blocks surrounding the college.
The college wishes to proceed with the construction plans with the
assurance that Washington Mall will not be open to vehicle traffic now or
in the future.
Mr. Ruge inquired about the location of the new health building. Ms.
Larson stated that the new health building is planned where the
administration building now sits, which is along Washington Mall. Mr. Darr
stated that it is just north of the Turner House. A general discussion
ensued.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak on this matter, Mr. Frederick referred
ACT-9-2002 to the next Urban Development Committee meeting
scheduled for Tuesday, June 25, 2002, at 4:00 p.m., 316 N. Capitol Ave.,
Department Conference Room.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (5 minutes each)
Seeing no one wishing to address the Board, Mr. Frederick closed the public
comment period.
6. RECESS was not taken by the Board.
7. BUSINESS SESSION
A. Minutes for Approval
Ms. Keene moved; seconded by Mr. Ruge to approve the minutes of
May 21, 2002 without corrections. On a voice vote, motion carried (5-0),
the minutes of May 21, 2002 were
APPROVED.
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Ms. Keene moved; seconded by Mr. Smith to approve the minutes of
June 4, 2002 without corrections. On a voice vote, motion carried (5-0),
the minutes of June 4, 2002 were
APPROVED.
B. Committee Reports
1. ZONING AND ORDINANCE COMMITTEE, Mr. Ruge, Chair
Mr. Ruge reported that the committee lacked a quorum and
therefore, he referred Z-8-2002, Z-9-2002, and Z-10-2002 to the
Committee of the Whole. So ordered by Chairman Frederick.
Next meeting, Tuesday, July 16, 2002 at 5:30 p.m.
City Council Conference Room, Tenth Floor, City Hall
124 W. Michigan Avenue.
2. URBAN DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
Mr. Rieske reported.
Next meeting, Tuesday, June 25, 2002, at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
Mr. Ruge made a motion; seconded by Ms. Cordill to dissolve into the Committee of the
Whole. On a voice vote, the motion carried.
3a. Committee of the Whole, Mr. Smith, Chair
a. Z-8-2002, 5950 S. ML King Jr. Blvd., Rezoning from "E-2"
Local Shopping District to "F" Commercial District
This is a request by John Daly to rezone the property
located at 5950 S. ML King Jr. Blvd., more particularly
described as:
Lots 10 & 11, Webster Farm Subdivision No. 1, City
of Lansing, Ingham County, Michigan
from "E-2" Local Shopping District to "F" Commercial
District. If approved, the applicant intends to have outdoor
sales of trailers and sheds at 5950 S. ML King Jr. Blvd.
Sue Stachowiak gave a brief overview.
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Mr. Ruge stated that he visited the site. There were a lot of
residential properties farther north than the south, and a lot
of commercial properties in the area as well.
Mr. Frederick stated that the property used to be a gas
station and inquired about the tanks being underground. A
general discussion ensued.
A discussion ensued regarding the possibility of a billboard
on the property.
Mr. Ruff stated that in the minutes, there was testimony at
the public hearing that the outdoor sales would keep the
store viable. The store is no longer located in the building.
A general discussion ensue.
Mr. Frederick stated that when he drove by the site he
noticed that there was a fair amount of commercial property
in the surrounding area. However, he stated that it is a fairly
vibrant residential neighborhood, and although he is not
concerned with the intensity of selling trailers or cigarettes,
he is concerned with the intensity that could result in the
future that would affect the neighborhood.
Mr. Ruge inquired about the kinds of uses for the property.
A discussion ensued.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to recommend denial of
Z-8-2002, 5950 S. MIL King Jr. Blvd., Rezoning from "E-2" Local Shopping District
to "F" Commercial District.
On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (5-0).
b. Z-9-2002, 724 N. Walnut, "C" Residential District to "DM-
3" Residential District
This is a request by Ferris Development to rezone the
property at 724 N. Walnut, more specifically described as:
S 2 R of E 47 FT & S 44 FT & S44 FT of W 118FT
Lot 9 Block 56, Original Plat, City of Lansing, Ingham
County, Michigan.
from "C" Residential to "DM-3" Residential District. The
purpose of the rezoning is to bring the property into
compliance with the Zoning Ordinance for a 4-unit structure
at 724 N. Walnut.
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Sue Stachowiak gave a brief overview.
Ms. Cordill inquired about the Class "A" Nonconforming
status. A general discussion ensued.
Mr. Ruge inquired about financing, and the number of units
allowed for tax credit financing. A general discussion
ensued.
Mr. Frederick inquired about the cost of the property being
rehabilitated into a single family home. A general discussion
ensued. He stated that he understands the importance of
avoiding a spot zoning. Having looked at the property from
an inexperienced eye, it looks like the structure of the
building could be rehabilitated and would certainly add to the
neighborhood if it were. He doubts if it would be
rehabilitated into a single family home or a two unit because
no one would pay that kind of money for the structure.
Whoever was doing the work could not get their money out
of it. There would not be that many people in the area who
would be willing to rehabilitate the building and get it into the
kind of shape that Ferris plans on doing. Judging from the
track record of the current owner, the building would
deteriorate even further. While the building looks kind of
shoddy at this point, it is not a complete wreck compared to
some of the places he has seen. He does not see the
building improving at all under any circumstances. He
believes it will get worse and turn into a boarded up old
house. This would put more pressure on the neighborhood
than with Ferris owning and rehabilitating it into a four unit.
A general discussion ensued.
Mr. Smith inquired about the historic significance of the
property. A discussion ensued.
Mr. Frederick inquired about the availability of historic funds.
Mr. Ruff stated there are funds available through the CDBG
programs that include using those dollars for historic
preservation purposes. A discussion ensued.
Ms. Cordill inquired about Ferris Development being the
owner. Mr. VanZee stated that Ferris Development has an
offer to purchase on the property. Ms. Cordill inquired about
what would happen if the Board says no. Mr. VanZee stated
that Ferris Development would not purchase the property
and that this has been the only way that Ferris has been
able to find the resources to rehab the property through tax
credits.
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Mr. Smith inquired about Ferris Development considering
the possibility of credits for historic preservation. Mr.
VanZee stated that Ferris always considers it and that once
they have the tax credits, it is a little easier to go this route
and Ferris always rehabs back to historic standards on these
types of properties. Ferris received a letter of commitment
from the Development Office supporting Ferris' request in
purchasing and rehabing these properties. The
Development Office is committing dollars to these properties
also.
Mr. Ruge stated that he would love to see money put into
this property. If another landlord came to the Board and
asked to do this and if it wasn't Ferris, the Board would not
be arguing about it, and would say sorry it cannot be done.
The City has a chance of a lifetime to get these houses fixed
up and it should be taken. However, in doing so, it would go
against a couple of points in the Master Plan.
A discussion ensued regarding "DM-Y zoning.
Mr. Smith stated that he sympathizes about preserving the
building. However, it would open too many doors.
Mr. Ruge stated that the Master Plan says this is not the
direction of the neighborhood. The neighborhood needs to
go to a less intense use. The Board needs to follow the
Master Plan.
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Mr. Frederick to recommend denial of Z-9-2002,
724 N. Walnut, "C" Residential District to "DM-3" Residential District.
On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (5-0).
C. Z-10-2002, 819 N. Walnut, "C" Residential District to
"DM-3" Residential District
This is a request by Ferris Development to rezone the
property at 724 N. Walnut, more specifically described as:
S 2 R of E 47 FT & S 44 FT & S44 FT of W 118FT
Lot 9 Block 56, Original Plat, City of Lansing, Ingham
County, Michigan.
from "C" Residential to "DM-Y Residential District. The
purpose of the rezoning is to bring the property into
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compliance with the Zoning Ordinance for a 4-unit structure
at 724 N. Walnut.
Sue Stachowiak gave a brief overview.
Mr. Smith inquired about Class "A" Nonconforming status. A
discussion ensued.
Mr. Ruge stated that this plans takes a direction that is
opposite of the Master Plan.
Ms. Cordill stated that she had calculated the density. For
the currently zoning and to be consistent, it is not even 2
units per acre. It is 1.75 units and the existing are 4 units.
The density cannot support 2 units.
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Mr. Frederick to recommend denial of
Z-10-2002, 819 N. Walnut, "C" Residential District to "DM-3" Residential District.
On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (5-0).
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Mr. Ruge to arise from the Committee of the
Whole. On a voice vote, the motion carried.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that because only five members were present, these will go to
City Council without a formal recommendation.
Mr. VanZee stated that Ferris appreciates the Board recognizing what they are doing.
Ferris was reacting to a request from the neighbors in this community. Ferris will
continue what they are doing and this will not be a setback. Ferris' mission is to provide
affordable housing and do it right in the City of Lansing. Ferris appreciates the Board's
support in the past, and looks forward to continued support in the future.
3b. Committee of the Whole, Mr. Smith, Chair
a. Z-8-2002, 5950 S. MIL King Jr. Blvd., Rezoning from "E-2"
Local Shopping District to "F" Commercial District
This is a request by John Daly to rezone the property
located at 5950 S. ML King Jr. Blvd., more particularly
described as:
Lots 10 & 11, Webster Farm Subdivision No. 1, City
of Lansing, Ingham County, Michigan
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from "E-2" Local Shopping District to "F" Commercial
District. If approved, the applicant intends to have outdoor
sales of trailers and sheds at 5950 S. ML King Jr. Blvd.
Referencing the Committee of the Whole discussion on this matter and concurring with
the Committee of the Whole action, Mr. Smith made a motion, seconded by Mr. Ruge
to recommend denial of Z-8-2002, 5950 S. ML King Jr. Blvd., Rezoning from "E-2"
Local Shopping District to "F" Commercial District.
Frederick . Ave Smith . Ave
Cordill . Ave Ruge . Ave
Keene .Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 5; Nays: 0; carried;
DENIED.
b. Z-9-2002, 724 N. Walnut, "C" Residential District to "DM-
3" Residential District
This is a request by Ferris Development to rezone the
property at 724 N. Walnut, more specifically described as:
S 2 R of E 47 FT & S 44 FT & S44 FT of W 118FT
Lot 9 Block 56, Original Plat, City of Lansing, Ingham
County, Michigan.
from "C" Residential to "DM-3" Residential District. The
purpose of the rezoning is to bring the property into
compliance with the Zoning Ordinance for a 4-unit structure
at 724 N. Walnut.
Referencing the Committee of the Whole discussion on this matter and concurring with
the Committee of the Whole action, Mr. Smith made a motion, seconded by Mr. Ruge
to recommend denial of Z-9-2002, 724 N. Walnut, "C" Residential District to "DM-3"
Residential District.
Frederick . Ave Smith . Ave
Cordill . Ave Ruge . Ave
Keene .Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 5; Nays: 0; carried;
DENIED.
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C. Z-10-2002, 819 N. Walnut, "C" Residential District to
"DM-3" Residential District
This is a request by Ferris Development to rezone the
property at 724 N. Walnut, more specifically described as:
S 2 R of E 47 FT & S 44 FT & S44 FT of W 118FT
Lot 9 Block 56, Original Plat, City of Lansing, Ingham
County, Michigan.
from "C" Residential to "DM-3" Residential District. The
purpose of the rezoning is to bring the property into
compliance with the Zoning Ordinance for a 4-unit structure
at 724 N. Walnut.
Referencing the Committee of the Whole discussion on this matter and concurring with
the Committee of the Whole action, Mr. Smith made a motion, seconded by Mr. Ruge
to recommend denial of Z-10-2002, 819 N. Walnut, "C" Residential District to "DM-
3" Residential District.
Frederick . Ave Smith . Ave
Cordill . Ave Ruge • Ave
Keene .Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 5; Nays: 0; carried;
DENIED.
4. Executive Committee - None.
C. REPORT FROM PLANNING MANAGER
1. The planned residential development on Forest Road at US-127 is
now underway and all permits have been issued.
2. City Council actions: ACT-8-2002 (referred to City Council next
week), ACT-23-2001 (recommended approval), Z-19-2002 (first
committee recommended denial; second committee recommended
approval), Z-3-2001 (public hearing set for July 81h).
3. Certificate of Appreciation for Mr. Smith.
D. Pending Items: Future action required
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a. Z-1-1998, 1223 N.Turner St.,"H" Light Industrial District to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled February 11, 1998)
b. Z-5-1998,401-407 E. Grand River,"F"Commercial District to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled June 10, 1998)
C. Z-8-2000,3901 S. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.,"F"Commercial to"H"Light
Industrial District(Tabled June 14,2000)
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d. Z-15-2000, 301 W. Lenawee Street, Professional Office to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled January 17,2001)
e. P-1-2001,Tentative Preliminary Plat,Wexford Woods (Tabled June 13, May 9,
2001)
f. PRD-2-2001,"Crystal Woods", Planned Residential Neighborhood (Tabled
August 15, 2001)
g. SLU-6-2001, 517-519 E. Grand River Ave., Church in"F-1" Commercial District
(Tabled November 14, 2001)
h. SLU-8-2001, 3000 W. Miller Road,Additional Parking for an Existing Church
(Tabled November 14,2001)
i. SLU-3-2002,2710 N. Grand River Ave., Church in the"F Commercial District&
"J" Parking District(Tabled May 15, 2002)
2. Urban Development Committee
a. Act-9-2000,201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj. Sign Over ROW (Tabled
June 27,2000)
b. Act-2-2002, Lansing Housing Commission Property, 310 Seymour,Acquisition
for public purposes (Tabled February 26,2002)
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planning Board
8. NEW BUSINESS
Ms. Keene requested an excused absence for the July 16" meeting. Mr. Ruge
made a motion, seconded by Mr. Smith to approve an excused absence request
for Ms. Keene for the July 161h meeting. On a voice vote, motion carried (5-0).
Mr. Ruge requested an excused absence for the July 2"d meeting. Mr. Smith
made a motion, seconded by Ms. Cordill to approve an excused absence
request for Mr. Ruge for the July 2nd meeting. On a voice vote, motion carried
(5-0).
Mr. Ruge will not be attending the Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting in
July. Mr. Ruff suggested moving the Z&O meeting to the evening of July 161h
before the Planning Board meeting. A discussion ensued.
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON
Mr. Frederick stated that he would feel better if he were able to see more than
just red tags going up on deteriorated buildings. He would like to see the City
become more active in getting to structures that are deteriorating before they
reach the stage where they need a huge amount of money put into them. Mr.
Ruff responded. Mr. Frederick stated he would feel much better if he saw some
type of program that would work with homeowners and landlords
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Mr. Smith thanked the Board for allowing him the opportunity to work with them.
He has really enjoyed it and will miss everyone. There is a certain degree of
gratification that comes from being able to go around Lansing and actually see
some concrete changes that have taken place in the five years that he has been
on the Board knowing that he has had some part in it.
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11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS
Mr. Ruge inquired about the new church going in across from the City Market,
and if a special land use was required.
Mr. Frederick inquired about Van Houten's. A general discussion ensued.
A discussion ensued regarding the Richter's Gardens site.
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 8:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
PB Minutes.061802.wpd
Approved as written 6-18-02 Draft to Clerk June 11,2002
Approved June 18,2002
To Clerk June 19,2002
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, June 4, 2002
1. OPENING SESSION
The meeting was called to order at 7:01 p.m. by Chairman Frederick.
A. Roll call. Present: Frederick, Foster, Cordill, Keene, Patrick, Ruge,
Smith.
B. Staff Attending: Ruff, Stachowiak, Rieske.
C. Excused absences: None.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
It was moved by Mr. Smith, supported by Ms. Keene to approve the agenda. On
a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (7-0).
3. COMMUNICATIONS
A. Card was given to the Board members regarding the Festival of the Sun in
North Lansing Old Town June 22, 2002 from 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m.
4. HEARINGS
A. Z-7-2002, S. Cedar St., "A" Residential District to "F" Commercial
District
This is a request by Volunteers of America to rezone a 2 acre segment of
a Consumers Power right-of-way, located on the east side of S. Cedar St.
between Armstrong Rd. and E. Northrup St. and more particularly
described as:
The West 600 feet of the North 165 feet of the South 825 feet of
the Southeast 114 of the Northeast 114 of Section 4, T3N, R2W.
from "A" Residential District to "F" Commercial District. The purpose of
this request is to allow for the creation of a used car lot (car auction).
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Sue Stachowiak stated that a letter was received from the applicant to
withdraw this case. Volunteers of America was not able to come to an
agreement with Consumers Power to allow for a car lot on the lot as
proposed. Mr. Ruff stated that Consumers has sold the transmission lines
and have made some changes. Those changes have affected Volunteers
of America.
Mr. Ruge inquired about a non-motorized trail through this area that was
listed in the Parks and Recreation Department comments. Mr. Rieske
stated there was a discussion about a possibility of a non-motorized trail.
The southwest area Master Plan calls for parks and open space in this
area. It is not owned by the City and is not currently a park. The utility
corridor runs into the southeast planning area and this designates it right
of way as a utility. At the Regional level, there have been discussions
regarding continuous non-motorized paths and river trails extending the
length of the river in the Tri-county region. There has been a discussion
about utility rights of way and there is nothing in an approved plan.
B. Z-8-2002, 5950 S. ML King Jr. Blvd., Rezoning from "E-2" Local
Shopping District to "F" Commercial District
This is a request by John Daly to rezone the property located at 5950 S.
ML King Jr. Blvd., more particularly described as:
Lots 10 & 11 , Webster Farm Subdivision No. 1 , City of Lansing,
Ingham County, Michigan. PPN 33-01-05-05-306-091
from "E-2" Local Shopping District to "F" Commercial District. If approved,
the applicant intends to have outdoor sales of trailers and sheds at 5950
S. ML King Jr. Blvd.
Sue Stachowiak gave a brief overview.
A discussion ensued regarding the rezoning of the property in 1971.
John Cusick, resident of 4606 Arden Road, stated that he is
representing the applicant. Most of the trailer and sheds being discussed
are new products and there will not be any assembling of these products.
Most people who are looking for trailers are traveling to Elkhart, Indiana.
This would be a benefit to the area to have people purchase products
from them. There will be 10 trailers and 6 sheds and plenty of adequate
space for these. There will also be plenty of customer parking. Closing of
Webster street can be done and there will still be plenty of parking so the
customers can make their way back to Martin Luther King Blvd. This
property has been used for a retail shop and there is no need to change
anything. Trailers and sheds will be added to the business. Most of the
sheds the company will carry will be used for trailer parks and community
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housing so the residents will have some kind of correlation in the trailer
parks. Most of the people he has spoken with in the trailer business are in
favor of the idea because a 5' x 8' can be built and be uniform in the trailer
parks around the area. He would appreciate the assistance because he
believes it would an asset to make the business profitable.
Ms. Patrick stated that she visited the property last night. Currently the
building is backed right up to the lot line. Mr. Cusick stated on the
property there is approximately 42' that extends beyond the building. The
fence up close to the building is not the property line. Ms. Patrick inquired
about the thick stand of trees and if they would remain. Mr. Cusick saw
no need to move them.
Ms. Patrick inquired if the current building would be removed. Mr. Cusick
stated the building would remain and be used as an office.
A discussion ensued regarding the sizes of the trailers and sheds.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak on this matter, Mr. Frederick referred
Z-8-2002 to the next Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting
scheduled for Wednesday, June 12, 2002, at 4:00 p.m., 316 N. Capitol
Ave., Department Conference Room.
C. Z-9-2002, 724 N. Walnut, "C" Residential District to "DM-3" Residential
District
This is a request by Ferris Development to rezone the property at 724 N.
Walnut, more specifically described as:
S 2 R of E 47 FT & S 44 FT & S44 FT of W 118 FT Lot 9 Block 56,
Original Plat, City of Lansing, Ingham County, Michigan.
from "C" Residential to "DM-3" Residential District. The purpose of the
rezoning is to bring the property into compliance with the Zoning
Ordinance for a 4-unit structure at 724 N. Walnut.
Sue Stachowiak gave a brief overview.
A discussion ensued regarding a variance, side yard setbacks, and a lot
coverage issue for the property.
Roger Newcomb, Executive Director of Ferris Development and
resident 720 N. Walnut, asked the Board to consider approving the
rezoning application. Ferris Development wants to use of the Tax Credit
Financing to rehabilitate the property. One of the requirements is that the
zoning be conforming because of some language in the nonconforming
zoning status. The variances will be addressed next week. With this
structure there will be approximately $175,000 of rehabilitation work and
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will be using funding from the City of Lansing Home Funds, Low Income
Tax Credits and bank financing to do this project. The property located at
819 N. Walnut is another $135,000 worth of rehabilitations. The garage
will be demolished. He gave a brief overview of the property located at
724 N. Walnut. He asked the Board for their help with both the business
and neighborhood.
Ms. Cordill inquired about the "C" residential zoning of the property and if
it would be feasible to rehabilitate the property with less units than
proposed. Mr. Newcomb stated yes but the cost would increase
exponentially.
Ms. Foster commended Ferris Development for the work they have done
in Lansing. Ferris Development has really helped a lot of properties that
no other person would have taken.
Ron Van Zee, Construction Manager for Ferris Development, stated
that he had pictures of 724 N. Walnut and 819 N. Walnut. Both of these
properties have been deemed to be listed or eligible for listing in the
National Historic Register and are a part of the old fourth ward. When he
first walked through both properties, he was quite hesitant to assume
responsibility. Ferris Development would like to do a full rehabilitation of
the property. He gave a brief overview and stated that Ferris
Development would meet all of the required historic standards. It would
be better than housing quality or code compliance standards as is done
with all their properties. The properties would be rebuilt to match the
historic character of when they were built.
A discussion ensued regarding the porch of a house located at
Pennsylvania and Vine.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak on this matter, Mr. Frederick referred
Z-9-2002 to the next Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting
scheduled for Wednesday, June 12, 2002, at 4:00 p.m., 316 N. Capitol
Ave., Department Conference Room.
D. Z-10-2002, 819 N. Walnut, "C" Residential District to "DM-3" Residential
District
This is a request by Ferris Development to rezone the property at 819 N.
Walnut, more specifically described as:
S 3 R of E 7 R, Lot 3 Block 48, Original Plat, City of Lansing,
Ingham County, Michigan.
from "C" Residential to "DM-3" Residential District. The purpose of the
rezoning is to bring the 4-unit structure at 819 N. Walnut into compliance
with the Zoning Ordinance.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES June 4, 2002, Page 5
Sue Stachowiak gave a brief overview.
A discussion ensued regarding parking.
Ron Van Zee, Construction Manager for Ferris Development, stated
that both of the properties' front yards are in line with the surrounding
properties. He gave an overview of the garage and furnace situations at
the 819 N. Walnut property. Ferris Development would meet all of the
required historic, housing quality and code compliance standards with
complete electrical, plumbing, and mechanical systems as well as the
structural aspects of the house.
A discussion ensued regarding the gravel driveway that extends to the
alley. Ferris Development will be implementing hard surfacing.
He stated that when Ferris Development acquires properties as tax credit
properties, they are required to maintain ownership and manage the
properties indefinitely. The properties cannot be sold and Ferris
Development will take care of them.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak on this matter, Mr. Frederick referred
Z-10-2002 to the next Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting
scheduled for Wednesday, June 12, 2002, at 4:00 p.m., 316 N. Capitol
Ave., Department Conference Room.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (5 minutes each)
Seeing no one wishing to address the Board, Mr. Frederick closed the public
comment period.
6. SPECIAL PRESENTATION - LA 445 Design Work
Mr. Rieske stated that Ms. Sissi P. Foster has structured her L.A. 445 class on
Advanced Project Design to focus on Lansing projects and to benefit our Master
Plan Project. She has worked with the Planning Office on the structure of the
course, and the deliverables the City would receive. The City was represented in
this process by Ms. Foster, who also provided pro bono assistance to the
Planning Office in developing the overall work plan for the Master Plan Project.
The Planning Office staff have been involved in determining the students'
deliverables, and have served as resource persons to the students and instructor
on an as-needed basis.
Ms. Foster presented the LA 445 Design Work project. The class has 17 fifth-
year L.A. students, each of whom has done an individual design project within
the City of Lansing. Each student provided a vision for the tri-county region, the
entire city, and a 9 block (±) area with all the land uses contained in that area. In
this manner, projects cover various parts of the City, involving industrial,
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES June 4, 2002, Page 6
commercial, and residential components, and portray various visions with
physical design solutions that blend both the natural and created environment
with people and their needs. Students have taken their design projects from
initial conception to the final designs, and provide design development
documentation which takes their projects (specific sites in the City of Lansing)
through a progressive series of steps that result in a continually increasing level
of detailed design solutions.
Ms. Foster explained that as a result of this course, the City will receive (1) a
compact disk (CD) version of each bound student report, which will contain final
text and graphics, regarding the problem statement, background research, site
design, design development, and final design, (2) a Power Point presentation of
each report, and (3) a final drawing of each project, suitable for public display.
Mr. Rieske explained that this project pertains to two phases of the Master Plan
Project: Phase III (Visioning) and Phase IV (Alternative Development Scenarios).
The City will receive numerous visions of Lansing's future, along with display
quality prototype designs, supported by the background research. Each of the
projects contain a citywide and neighborhood scope, as well as a regional
context. These products can be used during the Master Plan Project to stimulate
discussion on a shared vision for Lansing, and the consideration of alternative
solutions.
Mr. Rieske stated that project drawings and reports are in the conference room,
and the Board members and the public are welcome to review them. This can
be done either during the recess, or if the recess is omitted, then at the end of
the meeting.
7. RECESS was not taken by the Board.
8. BUSINESS SESSION
A. Minutes for Approval: None.
B. Committee Reports
1 . ZONING AND ORDINANCE COMMITTEE
Next meeting, Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
2. URBAN DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
Next meeting, Tuesday, June 25, 2002, at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
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Ms. Keene made a motion; seconded by Ms. Foster to dissolve into the Committee of
the Whole. On a voice vote, the motion carried.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to remove Act-32-2001 from the
table. On a voice vote, the motion carried.
3a. Committee of the Whole, Mr. Smith, Chair
a. ACT-32-2001, NW corner of Dunckel & Cavanaugh,
Acquire for Street ROW Intersection
Bill Rieske gave a brief overview. Ms. Dykema, Public
Service Department, was present to answer questions of the
Board.
A discussion ensued regarding the truck traffic and
proposed speed limit through this area. Ms. Dykema stated
that the current speed is 35 mph. Mr. Frederic stated there
is no posted speed limit sign in this area.
Ms. Dykema stated that truck routes are established by
ordinance and the streets are listed in the ordinance. In
order to add this to the truck map, the City would need to go
before City Council to have it added to the ordinance.
Trucks travel all the time on streets that are not on the truck
route. Once off the truck route, trucks would need to take
the most direct route to their destination. A discussion
ensued regarding truck drivers familiarizing themselves with
the truck route lists.
A discussion ensued regarding traffic safety in this area.
A discussion ensued regarding 11' lanes on Dunckel Road.
Cavanaugh Road has 10'-11' lanes.
A discussion ensued regarding a larger design of the
Dunckel/Cavanaugh Road design.
A discussion ensued regarding a meeting with the
neighborhood to receive input on the design of the road.
Ms. Dykema stated that she has talked with 4 or 5 residents
in the area. Ms. Patrick stated Forest View Citizens
Association and Old Everett Neighborhood Organization
should be notified on this type of issue.
A discussion ensued regarding traffic calming measures.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES June 4, 2002, Page 8
Ms. Foster made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to recommend approval of
ACT-32-2001, NW corner of Dunckel & Cavanaugh, Acquire for Street ROW
Intersection with the following conditions: (1) traffic calming measures be
implemented to include lane narrowing for traffic but favorably designed for
bikes, (2) reduce and post the speed limit to 30 mph on Cavanaugh Road, (3)
increase the number of street trees along Cavanaugh Road for perceptual traffic
calming and use existing trees as much as possible from the property being
purchased, (4) add extra marking on bike lanes and/or greater separation of bike
lanes from travel lanes, (5) prohibit trucks, (6) neighborhood organizations
should be brought into process to comment on design soonest including a side
walk option for the neighbors, (7) average road width to be 11' or narrower if
possible, (8) Dunckel Road be designed to have two through lanes and additional
lanes dedicated as a deceleration lane for convenience store/gas station complex
and Trappers Cove apartment complex and a left turn center lane for these uses.
On a voice vote, the motion carried.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Foster to arise from the Committee of
the Whole. On a voice vote, the motion carried.
3b. Committee of the Whole, Mr. Smith, Chair
a. ACT-32-2001, NW corner of Dunckel & Cavanaugh,
Acquire for Street ROW Intersection
The City Engineer is requesting to acquire property to realign
the intersection of Dunckel and Cavanaugh roads.
Increased development in the Dunckel Road area has
resulted in greater traffic congestion, including residential
development north of Jolly Road in the City of Lansing, and
commercial, industrial, office and school traffic south of Jolly
in Delhi Township. The SE Area Comprehensive Plan
designates the entire area between Dunckel, Jolly, and
Collins Road (the eastern city limits) for multi-family
residential (15-20 units/acre), professional office, and
commercial. Delhi Township has a growing office/industrial
park south of Jolly, served by Dunckel and Pine Tree Roads.
This development places increased pressure on the Jolly
Road/US 127 interchange, which is served by Dunckel
Road. Dunckel is five lanes in width at US 127, and narrows
to two lanes as it proceeds west and south toward Jolly.
Turning movements to and from the Trappers Cove complex
and Cavanaugh Road are difficult during peak traffic
periods.
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Cavanaugh Road, which serves as a connector between
Aurelius Road and Dunckel, also faces increased pressure,
especially due to restrictions in the Clemens Street
neighborhood at the north end of Aurelius Road.
As a result, Dunckel is proposed for widening from two lanes
to five (four traffic lanes and a left turn lane.) At a later date,
Cavanaugh is slated for widening from two lanes to three,
plus bicycle lanes.
These two projects, plus the SE Plan's recommendations
made in 1981, make the realignment of the Dunckel and
Cavanaugh appropriate. Funds are now available for the
Dunckel Road improvements to take place, and the property
acquisition for the intersection must be completed to secure
these funds.
The location and character of the proposal appears to be
reasonable. The extent of the acquisition is a product of
engineering and negotiation. The Act 285 Review involves a
portion of Lots 1, 2, and 3 of Sonnybrook Plat, and the
proposed intersection alignment reflects AASHTO design
standards. The remaining parcels will be usable in
accordance with the Zoning Ordinance.
Staff recommends approval of Act-32-2001, to authorize
negotiation and purchase of portions of Lots 1, 2, and 3 of
Sonnybrook Plat, for fair market value, for the purpose of
improving the Dunckel/Cavanaugh intersection, provided
that any excess property be resold to the property owner.
Ms. Foster inquired about street trees being included along
Dunckel Road and that street trees should be added along
commercial strips as well.
Referencing the Committee of the Whole discussion on this matter and concurring with
the Committee of the Whole action, Mr. Smith made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene
to recommend approval of ACT-32-2001, NW corner of Dunckel & Cavanaugh,
Acquire for Street ROW Intersection with the following conditions: (1) traffic
calming measures be implemented to include lane narrowing for traffic but
favorably designed for bikes, (2) reduce and post the speed limit to 30 mph on
Cavanaugh Road, (3) increase the number of street trees along Cavanaugh Road
for perceptual traffic calming and use existing trees as much as possible from
the property being purchased, (4) add extra marking on bike lanes and/or greater
separation of bike lanes from travel lanes, (5) prohibit trucks, (6) neighborhood
organizations should be brought into process to comment on design soonest
including a side walk option for the neighbors, (7) average road width to be 11, or
narrower if possible, (8) Dunckel Road be designed to have two through lanes
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and additional lanes dedicated as a deceleration lane for convenience store/gas
station complex and Trappers Cove apartment complex and a left turn center lane
for these uses, and (9) add street trees on Dunckel Road.
Frederick. . . Ave Foster. . . Ave
Patrick . .Aye Cordill. . . Aye
Keene. . .Ave Smith . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye
Ruge . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 7; Nays: 0; carried;
APPROVED WCONDITIONS.
4. Executive Committee - None.
C. REPORT FROM PLANNING MANAGER
1 . Memo regarding NACP Camp.
D. Pending Items: Future action required
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a. Z-1-1998, 1223 N.Turner St.,"H" Light Industrial District to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled February 11, 1998)
b. Z-5-1998,401-407 E. Grand River,"F"Commercial District to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled June 10, 1998)
C. Z-8-2000, 3901 S. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd., "F"Commercial to"H" Light
Industrial District(Tabled June 14, 2000)
d. Z-15-2000, 301 W. Lenawee Street, Professional Office to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled January 17, 2001)
e. P-1-2001,Tentative Preliminary Plat,Wexford Woods (Tabled June 13, May 9,
2001)
f. PRD-2-2001, "Crystal Woods", Planned Residential Neighborhood (Tabled
August 15, 2001)
g. SLU-6-2001, 517-519 E. Grand River Ave., Church in"F-1"Commercial District
(Tabled November 14,2001)
h. SLU-8-2001,3000 W. Miller Road,Additional Parking for an Existing Church
(Tabled November 14, 2001)
i. SLU-3-2002, 2710 N. Grand River Ave., Church in the"F" Commercial District&
"J" Parking District(Tabled May 15, 2002)
j. Ordinance Amendments,Accessory Structures (Action expected)
2. Urban Development Committee
a. Act-9-2000, 201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj. Sign Over ROW (Tabled
June 27, 2000)
b. Act-2-2002, Lansing Housing Commission Property, 310 Seymour,Acquisition
for public purposes (Tabled February 26, 2002)
3. Committee of the Whole
d. Planning Board
Ms. Stachowiak requested the Board remove the Ordinance Amendments from the
table and act upon them since there are at least 6 members present tonight.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES June 4, 2002, Page 11
Mr. Smith made a motion, seconded by Ms. Foster to remove Ordinance
Amendments, Accessory Structures from the table. On a voice vote, the motion
carried.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Ms. Foster made a motion, seconded by Mr. Ruge to approve the proposed Ordinance
Amendments, Accessory Structures.
Frederick. . . Ave Foster. . . Ave
Patrick . .Ave Cordill. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
Keene. . .Ave Smith . Ave
Ruge . . . . . . . . . . ... . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 7; Nays: 0; carried;
APPROVED.
9. NEW BUSINESS - None.
10. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON - None.
11. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Mr. Ruge stated he would be interested in attending the Michigan Municipal
League training on August 14, 2002. The training will be held in Lansing.
Ms. Cordill inquired about huge trucks using Francis Ave. Mr. Ruff stated this
would be reported to the Lansing Police Department as well as the Public
Service Department.
Ms. Patrick inquired about dirt roads, between Hodge on the south and Mt. Hope
on the north, and between Cedar Street and Washington. The dirt streets all
had standing water. Mr. Ruff stated these would be Public Service type projects.
12. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS
Ms. Patrick stated there was a visit to Auto Zone on the corner of Cedar Court
and South Cedar. Auto Zone displayed some red, white and blue flag banners
that appear tacky.
Ms. Patrick stated the now closed CVS Pharmacy drug store parking lot, located
at Cavanaugh Road and Cedar Street, consistently has white panel trucks
parked in the parking lot.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES June 4, 2002, Page 12
Mr. Ruge stated that he has seen some movement at the church on Michigan
Ave. Currently, a fence and a wall are being built. Ms. Stachowiak stated a
landscape strip will be placed along Michigan Ave. and landscaping along the
perimeter of the site. The site plan has just been approved. Mr. Ruge inquired
about vegetation. Ms. Stachowiak stated vegetation will be on the church's side
of the wall.
Mr. Frederick stated that the parking requirements need to be discussed with
Van Houten Produce on Cedar Street. The parking area was filled with trays,
and tables full of plants, fruits, and vegetables. On Saturday and Sunday, the
cars were forced to park an entire city block into the residential neighborhoods
on both sides of the street. The neighbors were not too excited about the
parking situation.
13. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 9:28 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
PB Minutes.060402.wpd
Draft to Clerk 2002
Approved 2002
To Clerk 2002
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, June 4, 2002
1. OPENING SESSION
The meeting was called to order at 7:01 p.m. by Chairman Frederick.
A. Roll call. Present: Frederick, Foster, Cordill, Keene, Patrick, Ruge,
Smith.
B. Staff Attending: Ruff, Stachowiak, Rieske.
C. Excused absences: None.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
It was moved by Mr. Smith, supported by Ms. Keene to approve the agenda. On
a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (7-0).
3. COMMUNICATIONS
A. Card was given to the Board members regarding the Festival of the Sun in
North Lansing Old Town June 22, 2002 from 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m.
4. HEARINGS
A. Z-7-2002, S. Cedar St., "A" Residential District to "F" Commercial
District
This is a request by Volunteers of America to rezone a 2 acre segment of
a Consumers Power right-of-way, located on the east side of S. Cedar St.
between Armstrong Rd. and E. Northrup St. and more particularly
described as:
The West 600 feet of the North 165 feet of the South 825 feet of
the Southeast 114 of the Northeast 114 of Section 4, T3N, R2W.
from "A" Residential District to "F" Commercial District. The purpose of
this request is to allow for the creation of a used car lot (car auction).
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES June 4, 2002, Page 2
Sue Stachowiak stated that a letter was received from the applicant to
withdraw this case. Volunteers of America was not able to come to an
agreement with Consumers Power to allow for a car lot on the lot as
proposed. Mr. Ruff stated that Consumers has sold the transmission lines
and have made some changes. Those changes have affected Volunteers
of America.
Mr. Ruge inquired about a non-motorized trail through this area that was
listed in the Parks and Recreation Department comments. Mr. Rieske
stated there was a discussion about a possibility of a non-motorized trail.
The southwest area Master Plan calls for parks and open space in this
area. It is not owned by the City and is not currently a park. The utility
corridor runs into the southeast planning area and this designates it right
of way as a utility. At the Regional level, there have been discussions
regarding continuous non-motorized paths and river trails extending the
length of the river in the Tri-county region. There has been a discussion
about utility rights of way and there is nothing in an approved plan.
B. Z-8-2002, 5950 S. ML King Jr. Blvd., Rezoning from "E-2" Local
Shopping District to "F" Commercial District
This is a request by John Daly to rezone the property located at 5950 S.
ML King Jr. Blvd., more particularly described as:
Lots 10 & 11, Webster Farm Subdivision No. 1, City of Lansing,
Ingham County, Michigan. PPN 33-01-05-05-306-091
from "E-2" Local Shopping District to "F" Commercial District. If approved,
the applicant intends to have outdoor sales of trailers and sheds at 5950
S. ML King Jr. Blvd.
Sue Stachowiak gave a brief overview.
A discussion ensued regarding the rezoning of the property in 1971.
John Cusick, resident of 4606 Arden Road, stated that he is
representing the applicant. Most of the trailer and sheds being discussed
are new products and there will not be any assembling of these products.
Most people who are looking for trailers are traveling to Elkhart, Indiana.
This would be a benefit to the area to have people purchase products
from them. There will be 10 trailers and 6 sheds and plenty of adequate
space for these. There will also be plenty of customer parking. Closing of
Webster street can be done and there will still be plenty of parking so the
customers can make their way back to Martin Luther King Blvd. This
property has been used for a retail shop and there is no need to change
anything. Trailers and sheds will be added to the business. Most of the
sheds the company will carry will be used for trailer parks and community
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES June 4, 2002, Page 3
housing so the residents will have some kind of correlation in the trailer
parks. Most of the people he has spoken with in the trailer business are in
favor of the idea because a 5' x 8' can be built and be uniform in the trailer
parks around the area. He would appreciate the assistance because he
believes it would an asset to make the business profitable.
Ms. Patrick stated that she visited the property last night. Currently the
building is backed right up to the lot line. Mr. Cusick stated on the
property there is approximately 42' that extends beyond the building. The
fence up close to the building is not the property line. Ms. Patrick inquired
about the thick stand of trees and if they would remain. Mr. Cusick saw
no need to move them.
Ms. Patrick inquired if the current building would be removed. Mr. Cusick
stated the building would remain and be used as an office.
A discussion ensued regarding the sizes of the trailers and sheds.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak on this matter, Mr. Frederick referred
Z-8-2002 to the next Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting
scheduled for Wednesday, June 12, 2002, at 4:00 p.m., 316 N. Capitol
Ave., Department Conference Room.
C. Z-9-2002, 724 N. Walnut, "C" Residential District to "DM-3" Residential
District
This is a request by Ferris Development to rezone the property at 724 N.
Walnut, more specifically described as:
S 2 R of E 47 FT & S 44 FT & S44 FT of W 118 FT Lot 9 Block 56,
Original Plat, City of Lansing, Ingham County, Michigan.
from "C" Residential to "DM-3" Residential District. The purpose of the
rezoning is to bring the property into compliance with the Zoning
Ordinance for a 4-unit structure at 724 N. Walnut.
Sue Stachowiak gave a brief overview.
A discussion ensued regarding a variance, side yard setbacks, and a lot
coverage issue for the property.
Roger Newcomb, Executive Director of Ferris Development and
resident 720 N. Walnut, asked the Board to consider approving the
rezoning application. Ferris Development wants to use of the Tax Credit
Financing to rehabilitate the property. One of the requirements is that the
zoning be conforming because of some language in the nonconforming
zoning status. The variances will be addressed next week. With this
structure there will be approximately $175,000 of rehabilitation work and
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES June 4, 2002, Page 4
will be using funding from the City of Lansing Home Funds, Low Income
Tax Credits and bank financing to do this project. The property located at
819 N. Walnut is another $135,000 worth of rehabilitations. The garage
will be demolished. He gave a brief overview of the property located at
724 N. Walnut. He asked the Board for their help with both the business
and neighborhood.
Ms. Cordill inquired about the "C" residential zoning of the property and if
it would be feasible to rehabilitate the property with less units than
proposed. Mr. Newcomb stated yes but the cost would increase
exponentially.
Ms. Foster commended Ferris Development for the work they have done
in Lansing. Ferris Development has really helped a lot of properties that
no other person would have taken.
Ron Van Zee, Construction Manager for Ferris Development, stated
that he had pictures of 724 N. Walnut and 819 N. Walnut. Both of these
properties have been deemed to be listed or eligible for listing in the
National Historic Register and are a part of the old fourth ward. When he
first walked through both properties, he was quite hesitant to assume
responsibility. Ferris Development would like to do a full rehabilitation of
the property. He gave a brief overview and stated that Ferris
Development would meet all of the required historic standards. It would
be better than housing quality or code compliance standards as is done
with all their properties. The properties would be rebuilt to match the
historic character of when they were built.
A discussion ensued regarding the porch of a house located at
Pennsylvania and Vine.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak on this matter, Mr. Frederick referred
Z-9-2002 to the next Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting
scheduled for Wednesday, June 12, 2002, at 4:00 p.m., 316 N. Capitol
Ave., Department Conference Room.
D. Z-10-2002, 819 N. Walnut, "C" Residential District to "DM-3" Residential
District
This is a request by Ferris Development to rezone the property at 819 N.
Walnut, more specifically described as:
S 3 R of E 7 R, Lot 3 Block 48, Original Plat, City of Lansing,
Ingham County, Michigan.
from "C" Residential to "DM-3" Residential District. The purpose of the
rezoning is to bring the 4-unit structure at 819 N. Walnut into compliance
with the Zoning Ordinance.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES June 4, 2002, Page 5
Sue Stachowiak gave a brief overview.
A discussion ensued regarding parking.
Ron Van Zee, Construction Manager for Ferris Development, stated
that both of the properties' front yards are in line with the surrounding
properties. He gave an overview of the garage and furnace situations at
the 819 N. Walnut property. Ferris Development would meet all of the
required historic, housing quality and code compliance standards with
complete electrical, plumbing, and mechanical systems as well as the
structural aspects of the house.
A discussion ensued regarding the gravel driveway that extends to the
alley. Ferris Development will be implementing hard surfacing.
He stated that when Ferris Development acquires properties as tax credit
properties, they are required to maintain ownership and manage the
properties indefinitely. The properties cannot be sold and Ferris
Development will take care of them.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak on this matter, Mr. Frederick referred
Z-10-2002 to the next Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting
scheduled for Wednesday, June 12, 2002, at 4:00 p.m., 316 N. Capitol
Ave., Department Conference Room.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (5 minutes each)
Seeing no one wishing to address the Board, Mr. Frederick closed the public
comment period.
6. SPECIAL PRESENTATION - LA 445 Design Work
Mr. Rieske stated that Ms. Sissi P. Foster has structured her L.A. 445 class on
Advanced Project Design to focus on Lansing projects and to benefit our Master
Plan Project. She has worked with the Planning Office on the structure of the
course, and the deliverables the City would receive. The City was represented in
this process by Ms. Foster, who also provided pro bono assistance to the
Planning Office in developing the overall work plan for the Master Plan Project.
The Planning Office staff have been involved in determining the students'
deliverables, and have served as resource persons to the students and instructor
on an as-needed basis.
Ms. Foster presented the LA 445 Design Work project. The class has 17 fifth-
year L.A. students, each of whom has done an individual design project within
the City of Lansing. Each student provided a vision for the tri-county region, the
entire city, and a 9 block (±) area with all the land uses contained in that area. In
this manner, projects cover various parts of the City, involving industrial,
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES June 4, 2002, Page 6
commercial, and residential components, and portray various visions with
physical design solutions that blend both the natural and created environment
with people and their needs. Students have taken their design projects from
initial conception to the final designs, and provide design development
documentation which takes their projects (specific sites in the City of Lansing)
through a progressive series of steps that result in a continually increasing level
of detailed design solutions.
Ms. Foster explained that as a result of this course, the City will receive (1) a
compact disk (CD) version of each bound student report, which will contain final
text and graphics, regarding the problem statement, background research, site
design, design development, and final design, (2) a Power Point presentation of
each report, and (3) a final drawing of each project, suitable for public display.
Mr. Rieske explained that this project pertains to two phases of the Master Plan
Project: Phase III (Visioning) and Phase IV (Alternative Development Scenarios).
The City will receive numerous visions of Lansing's future, along with display
quality prototype designs, supported by the background research. Each of the
projects contain a citywide and neighborhood scope, as well as a regional
context. These products can be used during the Master Plan Project to stimulate
discussion on a shared vision for Lansing, and the consideration of alternative
solutions.
Mr. Rieske stated that project drawings and reports are in the conference room,
and the Board members and the public are welcome to review them. This can
be done either during the recess, or if the recess is omitted, then at the end of
the meeting.
7. RECESS was not taken by the Board.
8. BUSINESS SESSION
A. Minutes for Approval: None.
B. Committee Reports
1. ZONING AND ORDINANCE COMMITTEE
Next meeting, Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
2. URBAN DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE
Next meeting, Tuesday, June 25, 2002, at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES June 4, 2002, Page 7
Ms. Keene made a motion; seconded by Ms. Foster to dissolve into the Committee of
the Whole. On a voice vote, the motion carried.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to remove Act-32-2001 from the
table. On a voice vote, the motion carried.
3a. Committee of the Whole, Mr. Smith, Chair
a. ACT-32-2001, NW corner of Dunckel & Cavanaugh,
Acquire for Street ROW Intersection
Bill Rieske gave a brief overview. Ms. Dykema, Public
Service Department, was present to answer questions of the
Board.
A discussion ensued regarding the truck traffic and
proposed speed limit through this area. Ms. Dykema stated
that the current speed is 35 mph. Mr. Frederic stated there
is no posted speed limit sign in this area.
Ms. Dykema stated that truck routes are established by
ordinance and the streets are listed in the ordinance. In
order to add this to the truck map, the City would need to go
before City Council to have it added to the ordinance.
Trucks travel all the time on streets that are not on the truck
route. Once off the truck route, trucks would need to take
the most direct route to their destination. A discussion
ensued regarding truck drivers familiarizing themselves with
the truck route lists.
A discussion ensued regarding traffic safety in this area.
A discussion ensued regarding 11' lanes on Dunckel Road.
Cavanaugh Road has 10'-11' lanes.
A discussion ensued regarding a larger design of the
Dunckel/Cavanaugh Road design.
A discussion ensued regarding a meeting with the
neighborhood to receive input on the design of the road.
Ms. Dykema stated that she has talked with 4 or 5 residents
in the area. Ms. Patrick stated Forest View Citizens
Association and Old Everett Neighborhood Organization
should be notified on this type of issue.
A discussion ensued regarding traffic calming measures.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES June 4, 2002, Page 8
Ms. Foster made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to recommend approval of
ACT-32-2001, NW corner of Dunckel & Cavanaugh, Acquire for Street ROW
Intersection with the following conditions: (1) traffic calming measures be
implemented to include lane narrowing for traffic but favorably designed for
bikes, (2) reduce and post the speed limit to 30 mph on Cavanaugh Road, (3)
increase the number of street trees along Cavanaugh Road for perceptual traffic
calming and use existing trees as much as possible from the property being
purchased, (4) add extra marking on bike lanes and/or greater separation of bike
lanes from travel lanes, (5) prohibit trucks, (6) neighborhood organizations
should be brought into process to comment on design soonest including a side
walk option for the neighbors, (7) average road width to be 1 V or narrower if
possible, (8) Dunckel Road be designed to have two through lanes and additional
lanes dedicated as a deceleration lane for convenience store/gas station complex
and Trappers Cove apartment complex and a left turn center lane for these uses.
On a voice vote, the motion carried.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Foster to arise from the Committee of
the Whole. On a voice vote, the motion carried.
3b. Committee of the Whole, Mr. Smith, Chair
a. ACT-32-2001, NW corner of Dunckel & Cavanaugh,
Acquire for Street ROW Intersection
The City Engineer is requesting to acquire property to realign
the intersection of Dunckel and Cavanaugh roads.
Increased development in the Dunckel Road area has
resulted in greater traffic congestion, including residential
development north of Jolly Road in the City of Lansing, and
commercial, industrial, office and school traffic south of Jolly
in Delhi Township. The SE Area Comprehensive Plan
designates the entire area between Dunckel, Jolly, and
Collins Road (the eastern city limits) for multi-family
residential (15-20 units/acre), professional office, and
commercial. Delhi Township has a growing office/industrial
park south of Jolly, served by Dunckel and Pine Tree Roads.
This development places increased pressure on the Jolly
Road/US 127 interchange, which is served by Dunckel
Road. Dunckel is five lanes in width at US 127, and narrows
to two lanes as it proceeds west and south toward Jolly.
Turning movements to and from the Trappers Cove complex
and Cavanaugh Road are difficult during peak traffic
periods.
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Cavanaugh Road, which serves as a connector between
Aurelius Road and Dunckel, also faces increased pressure,
especially due to restrictions in the Clemens Street
neighborhood at the north end of Aurelius Road.
As a result, Duncke► is proposed for widening from two lanes
to five (four traffic lanes and a left turn lane.) At a later date,
Cavanaugh is slated for widening from two lanes to three,
plus bicyc►e lanes.
These two projects, plus the SE Plan's recommendations
made in 1981, make the realignment of the Dunckel and
Cavanaugh appropriate. Funds are now available for the
Dunckel Road improvements to take place, and the property
acquisition for the intersection must be completed to secure
these funds.
The location and character of the proposal appears to be
reasonable. The extent of the acquisition is a product of
engineering and negotiation. The Act 285 Review involves a
portion of Lots 1, 2, and 3 of Sonnybrook Plat, and the
proposed intersection alignment reflects AASHTO design
standards. The remaining parcels will be usable in
accordance with the Zoning Ordinance.
Staff recommends approval of Act-32-2001, to authorize
negotiation and purchase of portions of Lots 1, 2, and 3 of
Sonnybrook Plat, for fair market value, for the purpose of
improving the Dunckel/Cavanaugh intersection, provided
that any excess property be resold to the property owner.
Ms. Foster inquired about street trees being included along
Dunckel Road and that street trees should be added along
commercial strips as well.
Referencing the Committee of the Whole discussion on this matter and concurring with
the Committee of the Whole action, Mr. Smith made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene
to recommend approval of ACT-32-2001, NW corner of Dunckel & Cavanaugh,
Acquire for Street ROW Intersection with the following conditions: (1) traffic
calming measures be implemented to include lane narrowing for traffic but
favorably designed for bikes, (2) reduce and post the speed limit to 30 mph on
Cavanaugh Road, (3) increase the number of street trees along Cavanaugh Road
for perceptual traffic calming and use existing trees as much as possible from
the property being purchased, (4) add extra marking on bike lanes and/or greater
separation of bike lanes from travel lanes, (5) prohibit trucks, (6) neighborhood
organizations should be brought into process to comment on design soonest
including a side walk option for the neighbors, (7) average road width to be 11, or
narrower if possible, (8) Dunckel Road be designed to have two through lanes
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES June 4, 2002, Page 10
and additional lanes dedicated as a deceleration lane for convenience store/gas
station complex and Trappers Cove apartment complex and a left turn center lane
for these uses, and (9) add street trees on Dunckel Road.
Frederick. . . Ave Foster • Ave
Patrick . .Ave Cordill • Ave
Keene. . .Ave Smith . Ave
Ruge . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 7; Nays: 0; carried;
APPROVED w/CONDITIONS.
4. Executive Committee - None.
C. REPORT FROM PLANNING MANAGER
1. Memo regarding NACP Camp.
D. Pending Items: Future action required
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a. Z-1-1998, 1223 N.Turner St.,"H" Light Industrial District to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled February 11, 1998)
b. Z-5-1998,401-407 E. Grand River,"F"Commercial District to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled June 10, 1998)
C. Z-8-2000, 3901 S. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.,"F"Commercial to"H"Light
Industrial District(Tabled June 14, 2000)
d. Z-15-2000, 301 W. Lenawee Street, Professional Office to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled January 17,2001)
e. P-1-2001,Tentative Preliminary Plat,Wexford Woods (Tabled June 13, May 9,
2001)
f. PRD-2-2001,"Crystal Woods", Planned Residential Neighborhood (Tabled
August 15, 2001)
g. SLU-6-2001, 517-519 E. Grand River Ave., Church in"F-1"Commercial District
(Tabled November 14,2001)
h. SLU-8-2001, 3000 W. Miller Road,Additional Parking for an Existing Church
(Tabled November 14,2001)
i. SLU-3-2002,2710 N. Grand River Ave., Church in the"F"Commercial District&
"J" Parking District(Tabled May 15,2002)
j. Ordinance Amendments, Accessory Structures (Action expected)
2. Urban Development Committee
a. Act-9-2000, 201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj. Sign Over ROW (Tabled
June 27, 2000)
b. Act-2-2002, Lansing Housing Commission Property, 310 Seymour,Acquisition
for public purposes (Tabled February 26, 2002)
3. Committee of the Whole
d. Planninq Board
Ms. Stachowiak requested the Board remove the Ordinance Amendments from the
table and act upon them since there are at least 6 members present tonight.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES June 4, 2002, Page 11
Mr. Smith made a motion, seconded by Ms. Foster to remove Ordinance
Amendments, Accessory Structures from the table. On a voice vote, the motion
carried.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Ms. Foster made a motion, seconded by Mr. Ruge to approve the proposed Ordinance
Amendments, Accessory Structures.
Frederick. . . Ave Foster. . . Ave
Patrick . .Ave Cordill. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
Keene. . .Ave Smith . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
Ruge . . Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 7; Nays: 0; carried;
APPROVED.
9. NEW BUSINESS - None.
10. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON - None.
11. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Mr. Ruge stated he would be interested in attending the Michigan Municipal
League training on August 14, 2002. The training will be held in Lansing.
Ms. Cordill inquired about huge trucks using Francis Ave. Mr. Ruff stated this
would be reported to the Lansing Police Department as well as the Public
Service Department.
Ms. Patrick inquired about dirt roads, between Hodge on the south and Mt. Hope
on the north, and between Cedar Street and Washington. The dirt streets all
had standing water. Mr. Ruff stated these would be Public Service type projects.
12. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS
Ms. Patrick stated there was a visit to Auto Zone on the corner of Cedar Court
and South Cedar, Auto Zone displayed some red, white and blue flag banners
that appear tacky.
Ms. Patrick stated the now closed CVS Pharmacy drug store parking lot, located
at Cavanaugh Road and Cedar Street, consistently has white panel trucks
parked in the parking lot.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES June 4, 2002, Page 12
Mr. Ruge stated that he has seen some movement at the church on Michigan
Ave. Currently, a fence and a wall are being built. Ms. Stachowiak stated a
landscape strip will be placed along Michigan Ave. and landscaping along the
perimeter of the site. The site plan has just been approved. Mr. Ruge inquired
about vegetation. Ms. Stachowiak stated vegetation will be on the church's side
of the wall.
Mr. Frederick stated that the parking requirements need to be discussed with
Van Houten Produce on Cedar Street. The parking area was filled with trays,
and tables full of plants, fruits, and vegetables. On Saturday and Sunday, the
cars were forced to park an entire city block into the residential neighborhoods
on both sides of the street. The neighbors were not too excited about the
parking situation.
13. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 9:28 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
PB Minutes.060402.wpd
Approved as written 6-18-02 Draft to Clerk May 30,2002
Approved June 18,2002
To Clerk June 19,2002
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, May 21, 2002
1. OPENING SESSION
The meeting was called to order at 7:07 p.m. by Chairman Frederick.
A. Roll call. Present: Frederick, Foster (arrived at 7:25 p.m.), Keene,
Patrick, Smith.
B. Staff Attending: Stachowiak, Rieske, Ruff, Stanich.
C. Excused absences: Ruge, Cordill.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Mr. Frederick stated that Mr. Murdock Jemerson, Director of Lansing Parks and
Recreation, was present.
It was moved by Ms. Keene, supported by Ms. Patrick to approve the revised
agenda with ACT-27-2002 (Comfort Station) as a Committee of the Whole item
for discussion. On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (4-0).
3. COMMUNICATIONS
A. Letter from Windsor Charter Township regarding an amendment to their
land use plan. Referred to the Urban Development Committee for review.
4. HEARINGS
A. ACT-8-2002, Seven (7) City-Owned Lots, Market for Sale
This is a request by the Lansing Parks and Recreation Department to
market for sale seven (7) non-dedicated parcels under the jurisdiction of
the Parks and Recreation Department, more particularly described as:
Lots 313, 314, 315, 317, 319, 320, and 322 Glenburne Subdivision
No. 5, City of Lansing, Eaton County, Michigan.
Lots 313, 314, and 315 are zoned "A" Single Family Residential District.
Lots 317, 319, 320, and 322 are zoned "C" One and Two Family
Residential District. This is not a matter of rezoning.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES May 21, 2002, Page 2
Bill Rieske gave a brief overview.
Mr. Murdock Jemerson, resident of 3344 Inverary Drive and Director
of Parks and Recreation, City of Lansing, stated that these parcels are
on the City's surplus property listing within the Parks and Recreation
Department. Mr. Jemerson stated that it came to their attention in
February when asked at the Park Board meeting to release these
properties. He stated that the Parks Department took a look at the
properties. The Park Board did not take action during its February
meeting but in March when the Parks Department came back with more
information on the parcels, the Park Board decided to recommend to the
Mayor that these parcels be released and an ACT 285 review be
conducted with a vote of (4-1). These parcels were purchased in 1995 by
the former Parks and Recreation Director, Mr. Eric Reickel. This was
done as possible lots to have access to a possible golf course in that
area. These plans have now gone by the wayside and the Parks
Department does not see a need for these parcels. The best use for them
is for homes. These parcels are not dedicated in any way as far as park
land is concerned and the Parks Department supports the
recommendation to market these parcels. He stated that the Parks
Department would like to keep one parcel for an access into Fine Park as
Mr. Rieske indicated in his comments.
Ms. Patrick asked Mr. Jemerson about having an experience like this
where a private citizen is interested in purchasing park property. Mr.
Jemerson stated that he hasn't and as Parks Director, he was not sure if it
had happened in the past. Ms. Patrick inquired about what is required by
procedure in order to offer surplus property for bids. Mr. Jemerson
explained that these parcels were obtained from the State of Michigan
and that there are surplus properties that are on the list that have been
assigned to Parks and Recreation to manage but they are not properties
that have been dedicated. The department does not have and does not
foresee a use for these properties. Whenever you dispose of or acquire
any property, an ACT 285 review goes into affect.
Mr. Frederick inquired about how the lots would be marketed. Mr.
Jemerson stated that the Planning Office would be better suited to
comment on it and that the Parks Department turns to the Planning and
Neighborhood Development Office for the sale of property. Mr. Ruff
stated that in a situation like this these lots were purchased from the State
of Michigan as tax reverted properties and purchased nominally for an
approximate $300.00 fee. There may be some title issues with one or
more of the properties. The Development Office would help the Parks
Department with marketing and closing of the properties. Any dollars that
are collected at the sale above and beyond what has been required for
maintenance or administration will have to be turned back in for
redistribution of taxes. It is not like it would be necessarily that you would
get the highest market rate for the properties because the City would be
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quit claiming the deed unless somehow the City had a warranty deed.
Mr. Frederick inquired about marketing and if marketing would be
extensive enough so anyone interested in the property would have an
opportunity to purchase it. Mr. Ruff stated that he believed so and that
there is more than one lot available. There have been requests for 2-3
lots at this point and there are 7 lots available. The lots are all buildable
from a size stand point. Once this is done, the City has a real estate
agent that helps with marketing property and this individual would be
assigned these properties as well.
Mr. Jemerson stated that he did have pictures of the area if any of the
Board members were interested in reviewing them.
Beverly Miller, North Lansing Community Association, stated that
there is still a problem with trying to figure out what is dedicated park land
and what is park land. The reason why this is very important is because
the charter does not specify that it has to be dedicated park land. It says
park land. Unless the charter is changed, which can be done every 12
years, it is still park land. The park land cannot be sold without the vote of
the people. It is the same as a cemetery or anything else that is in the
charter. It has become a problem because someone decided to give all
the real estate to the parks. She felt that this was not a very good idea
and that it has confused everyone. When something is sold, whether it is
park land or just real estate, unless a list is provided in which the City
should be demanding a list saying what is park land separated from what
is just plain real estate. The City's property should not be shuffled around
like this. When someone comes to the Board and says that this is
dedicated, how do they know? How does the City know if it is dedicated?
The Charter does not even say the property has to be dedicated.
Sarah Johnson Marciniak, resident of 1200 Ferley Street, stated that
she has been watching this land for quite a while and her intentions are
for lots 031 and 041 where she would like to place her house. This is a
suburb area toward the back off the main road and is a place where she
has felt divinely led to move her family. This is more of a personal matter
to her. She has spoken with Mr. Jemerson on numerous occasions and
he has assured her that this property is surplus and is not being used.
She has toured and viewed the area many times and walked across
Glenburne Hills into Fine Park. She has pictures, maps and history of the
area. She stated that her son will be returning home from the Navy and
that he fought in the Afghanistan war. She would like to have a nice
secluded place in a quiet suburb for when he returns home so that he can
rest and this area would be very beneficial. She is asking the Board to
release these properties. Mr. Frederick asked Mr. Ruff who Ms. Marciniak
would contact assuming that this property is released for sale. Mr. Ruff
stated that it would be the Development Office.
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Nathan Hartley, resident of 4254 Glenburne Blvd., stated that he lives
across the street from the parcels. To him these are not just parcels, this
is his neighborhood. He is a Habitat home owner and would like to thank
who ever donated that land to Habitat for Humanity. He does not mind if
the land is sold. He is more concerned with Fine Park. Currently the
property is used by four wheelers and motorcyclists. He and his children
enjoy the little wood lot across the street from their home. He is hoping
that the lot for access is down by the river. He would like to see Waverly
Road become bike accessible.
Jerry Heathcote, resident of 4011 Hartford Road, stated if these lots
are to be marketed for sale, that there is a public notice and that there are
sealed bids for each lot so that anyone interested can have an opportunity
to place a bid on the property.
Belinda Fitzpatrick, resident of 224 S. Holmes Street, stated if the
property is going to be sold, that it should be put up for an open bid and
open process. This is park land and the Charter does not say anything
about it being dedicated or not dedicated. If the property is going to be
sold, it needs to be placed before a vote of the people. Precedence
needs to be considered when park land becomes labeled as disposable
parcels in order to get around the Charter requirements. If someone was
to follow the Charter and put it before the vote of the people or put it up for
open bids so that anyone interested could get the taxpayers the most
money, her concerns would be satisfied.
Brian Smith, resident of 1007 Woodbine and Chairman of Citizens for
a Better Lansing, stated this is the citizens group that currently has the
City of Lansing in the State Court of Appeals over the word "required" and
being in the City Charter. If the Board opened up the first page of the City
Charter it says, "The citizens shall have a vote on the sale of any parks,
cemetery, water front property, etc." The word "required" is not in there.
What defines what is or what is not park property? This argument that the
City uses gets to be so redundant and so stale. This whole "required"
issue is still in the court of law.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak on this matter, Mr. Frederick referred
ACT-8-2002 to the Urban Development Committee, to meet this evening
during the recess, City Council Conference Room, 10th Floor, City Hall.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (5 minutes each)
Beverly Marsh, North Lansing Community Association and resident of 331
Harriet, stated that she is here to speak on 313 E. Grand River. She is here to
ask the Board to retain this property as City owned property so all organizations
will be able to use it. She is aware of some new problems with repairs but
believes that it can be fixed with her estimate. She has looked over the furnace,
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removal of the old furnace, asbestos around the pipes, roof repairs, and general
maintenance and cleaning. She stated that she is a contractor and works with
asbestos and lead paint. Her estimate for repairs is roughly $51,000. She
believes the City can come up with this amount for the building to be repaired
and have all the organizations use the building as it was originally intended.
Since the death of Thelma Osteen, the building has not been actively used like it
should be. If asked about records of meetings that were held at the Comfort
Station, you will not find them. There were very few. She believes the building
should become a vital part of the North end again and that it is one of the best
buildings located there. Everybody knows you need to see old town if you are
going to the North end. The people know North Lansing and they do know the
Comfort Station. The Comfort Station will always be a part of the North end and
has been there since she has been around. She stated it could be made into a
beautiful building without a lot of cost to the City. She knows that there is a cost
and that the budget is tight. If everyone works together, there can be a way for
the City to retain the property. If you have property starting out at $6,000 and the
value goes up to $77,000 in twenty years, you have picked up money. She
believes the property is an asset to the City and that the taxpayers should not
bear the burden of the property being given to one entity to maintain. This was
not the intended use for the building. It was intended for all community activities
and not for just one organization. She asked the Board to please consider
keeping the property in the hands of the City.
Mr. Jemerson inquired about discussing the Comfort Station at this time or if it
would be dealt with in a committee. Mr. Frederick stated that it would be
addressed at the Committee of the Whole.
Sherry Shaw, resident of 403 Beaver Street, believes the Comfort Station can
be saved and used for the community. The building is usually closed and with
other groups being made aware, the Comfort Station can be and should be used
for their activities. There are a lot of small groups, who could grow into large
groups, that would like to use the Comfort Station. She asked the Board to take
into consideration the costs of bringing the building up to code and for the City to
think about how the taxpayer monies are spent. The City has been known to
give property away and clean up property, etc., etc. for some very wealthy
developers. She believes a community, who invites other communities to use
the Comfort Station for the sole purpose of bettering the community and other
community activities, would benefit the whole City. She is against giving or
selling the building to anyone at this time. She feels it has not been researched
enough with feedback to say all that is found is what the inspectors have found
along with looking at the outside of the building. The Comfort Station is a very
vital building in that block of Grand River and always has been. She asked the
Board to please consider all these things. She encouraged the Board to talk
further with Mr. Jemerson, people who have been in the building and people who
know more about the building as far as the status of cleaning up the building to
make it vital for the neighborhood.
Becky Weck, resident of 213 Douglas Ave., does not feel the Comfort Station
should be sold to just one organization. She believes the building should be
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accessible to everyone for its use. The history and age of the building to where it
can be brought back to use and everyone benefit, she feels this is what needs to
happen. The City refers to the building as the Comfort Station and she refers to
the building as the Thelma Osteen Comfort Station. She always will regardless if
it is dedicated, legal or not legal, viable or not viable. The Mayor was present
when the building was dedicated so she is not sure why the building is not
addressed as the Thelma Osteen Comfort Station. The heritage of the building
itself and how long it has remained standing, it was where the people would get
on and wait for the trains, the history of the building. She does not feel the
building should be sold to one person. It should be made accessible to
everyone.
Brian Smith, resident of 1007 Woodbine and Chairman of Citizens for a
Better Lansing, stated that he has been following the Thelma Osteen Comfort
Station situation since last November. There was a report filed, addressed to Mr.
Bob Swanson from Mr. Jemerson, compiled by Mr. Marty Riel, City maintenance
supervisor, that listed some factual errors. He provided Mr. Jemerson along with
Councilmember Leeman a report that showed this building was built in 1914.
The reported indicated the building was built around the 1920s. This is a
historical building and there has to be some way that some of the ADA things are
factored in because of the age of the building. In regards to the report that listed
all the problems with the building, he does not understand how the City could
lease a building that is substandard and deteriorated. This deterioration did not
occur within the last 5 years. This is unfortunate because the public would like to
address the Board after Mr. Jemerson has given his speech and answered the
Board's questions. With the public not knowing what Mr. Jemerson will say or
where the City is coming from, he feels this is unfortunate in the communication
process.
Belinda Fitzpatrick, resident of 224 S. Holmes Street, stated that property is a
relationship between people regarding things. Property is the right to exclude
others and that is why there is community property. Community property is
available for everyone to use without excluding anyone. Her understanding is
that Federal money, sweat equity and hard work have been put into the Comfort
Station in order for it to be community property. She believes there is a
community need for the Comfort Station to remain as community property so that
it would be available for everyone and not in the hands of the few who can
exclude others. Since the building is historic, she feels there is value that it is
available to the use of all and not just a select few. She read the list, referenced
by Mr. Smith, and stated that the City has reasons and justifications. There has
been a rampage to dispose of public and park property, and give away public
property to a few developers. She believes it is important to keep the Comfort
Station as community use and that it is a justification. The City is trying to use
this as an excuse to get rid of the property. She has done some research
regarding historical buildings, codes, and how these codes could have a negative
impact on historic buildings. There are ways to get around certain codes when
dealing with historic buildings. There needs to be an assessment done by
someone who has experience with historic buildings and knows how to meet
safety requirements, and then work around other requirements that are not direct
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safety issues. The asbestos and lead paint abatements need to be done and
she believes the City can afford to do these. With replacing the windows, these
are a part of the historical character of the building. She believes the windows
are not a safety concern. One of the things she found interesting in the report
was "Remove the Christmas lights that are stapled to the ceiling and repair and
paint ceiling." She felt this was getting a little picky. She believes it has been the
agenda of the current administration to find ways to justify disposing of the
community property. The Comfort Station is community property and it should
remain community property so that everyone could have access to building and
appreciate it. She attended the Christmas party and found it to be a delightful
opportunity to spend some time in the presence of one of the older buildings.
The building certainly has a presence to it that should be available for the
enjoyment of all people. She encouraged the Board to keep the building as
community property so that everyone would have an experience of enjoying the
property with other people in the community.
Beverly Miller, North Lansing Community Association, stated that she cannot
figure out why the association is out of the building. She asked the Board if they
had any idea why the association is out of the building and why the property was
given to the Parks Board. She also asked why the lease had not been renewed.
The former lease had been for 22 years without any problems. Since the City
does not have the money, the association would like to have the building back to
put their own money into the repairs. The association has always had their own
liability. The City can eliminate liability and maintenance. The association will fix
the bathrooms, take out the asbestos, and put in electric EXIT signs and alarms.
Whatever it takes, the association will do it and it won't cost the taxpayer one
penny. The association is that dedicated to the building. There are a lot of
people who have put much of their time and their lives into the building. The
Comfort Station was brought from a $6,000 City demolition to a $75,000 building
and it can be better. She would like to see one person, organization or agency
who had been turned away from the building. The association will take care of
the repairs and it won't cost the City one penny.
Seeing no one else wishing to address the Board, Mr. Frederick closed the
public comment period.
6. RECESS was taken by the Board. During the recess, the Urban Development
Committee met to discuss ACT-8-2002.
7. BUSINESS SESSION
A. Minutes for Approval
Ms. Keene moved; seconded by Ms. Foster to approve the minutes of
April 16, 2002 without corrections. On a voice vote, motion carried (5-0),
the minutes of April 16, 2002 were
APPROVED.
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Ms. Foster moved; seconded by Ms. Keene to approve the minutes of
April 23, 2002 without corrections. On a voice vote, motion carried (5-0),
the minutes of April 23, 2002 were
APPROVED.
Ms. Foster moved; seconded by Ms. Keene to approve the minutes of
May 7, 2002 with corrections. On a voice vote, motion carried (5-0), the
minutes of May 7, 2002 were
APPROVED w/CORRECTIONS.
B. Committee Reports
1. ZONING AND ORDINANCE COMMITTEE Ms. Foster, Vice Chair
a. SLU-1-2002,1400 Block, W. Jolly Road, Special Land Use
Permit - New Church in the "A" Residential Zoning
District
This is a request by Timothy Howell of Swanson Design
Studios on behalf of Prince of Peace Baptist Church for a
Special Land Use permit to construct a new church and
related site improvements on a vacant, 3-acre parcel located
in the 1400 Block of W. Jolly Road on the north side of the
street. The property is zoned "A" Residential District which
permits churches, if a Special Land Use permit is approved
by the Lansing City Council. This is not a matter of a
rezoning.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Ms. Foster made a motion, seconded by Mr. Smith to recommend approval of
SLU-1-2002,1400 Block, W. Jolly Road, Special Land Use Permit - New Church in
the "A" Residential Zoning District as recommended with the conditions that (1)
the landscape screening and buffering along the north, east and west sides of the
site consist of a combination of fencing, berms and plant materials as required by
ordinance, to create a screen around the parking area that would be at least 8-
feet in height, (2) the applicant work with the Department of Public Service and
the Ingham County Drain Commissioner's Office to establish an agreement for
construction of the detention basin within the Gilkey Drain easement, and (3) the
City of Lansing reserves the right to perform construction within the entire
easement, with any restoration of the site being the responsibility of the church.
Frederick . . Ave Foster. . . Ave
Keene . .Ave Patrick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
Smith. . .Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 5; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED w/CONDITIONS.
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b. SLU-4-2002, 4515 S. Cedar Street, Special Land Use
Permit - Child Care Center
This is a request by Cedarway Free Methodist Church for a
Special Land Use permit to establish a child care center
serving 25-30 children in the existing church fellowship hall
at 4515 S. Cedar Street. The property is zoned "B"
Residential District which permits child care centers subject
to approval of a special land use permit by the City Council.
This is not a matter of a rezoning.
Ms. Foster stated that she did view the site today and found
the playground area limited on shade. Maybe one more tree
could be added to allow for more shade.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Ms. Foster made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to recommend approval of
SLU-4-2002, 4515 S. Cedar Street, Special Land Use Permit - Child Care Center as
recommended with the conditions that (1) a revised plan be submitted to the
Planning Office that depicts 2,500 square feet of fenced, outdoor play area, and
(2) one additional tree be added to the site, near the outdoor play area.
Frederick . Ave Foster. . Aye
Keene . Ave Patrick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
Smith. . Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 5; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED WCONDITIONS.
C. Ordinance Amendments, Accessory Structures
The proposed amendments would place additional
regulations on the architecture, size and placement of
accessory structures, including garages and would allow for
increased sizes of accessory structures based upon lot size.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Ms. Foster made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to recommend approval of
Ordinance Amendments, Accessory Structures.
Frederick . Aye Foster. . . Ave
Keene . Ave Patrick . . Ave
Smith. . Ave
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES May 21, 2002, Page 10
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 5; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
Mr. Ruff stated that the motion carries but with an ordinance amendment, it would
require six votes.
Mr. Smith made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to defer the recommendation of
Ordinance Amendments, Accessory Structures. On a voice vote, motion carried
(5-0).
DEFERRED.
The motion has been deferred to the first opportunity when six members of the
Board are present.
Next meeting, Wednesday, June 12, 2002 at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
2. URBAN DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, Ms. Patrick, Chair
a. Act-23-2001, Abandon Banghart St. R-O-W, west of
Northeast Street
Nip-N-Sip Drive In, Nording Corporation, requests that the
City of Lansing vacate the Banghart Right-of-Way west of
North East Street, measuring 60' wide by 150' deep (see
attached map). The applicant has stated that the property "is
currently used as ingress and egress to our drive-in
restaurant and that with improvements there would be less
damage to our patrons' automobiles" and that it would be
"more attractive to our customers and to the City of Lansing
and to Gier Park."
The proposed vacation of Banghart Street is located at in
the 2600 block of North East Street, west of Northeast
Street, measuring 60' wide by 150' deep. The unimproved
right-of-way is currently used as ingress and egress to the
adjacent drive-in restaurant. The applicant has stated that
improvements to the right-of-way would be an improvement
to the property and would result in less damage to their
patrons' vehicles and would be more attractive to the
business, to the City of Lansing and to Gier Park. The
commercial character of the area will not change or have
any adverse impact on surrounding land uses as a result of
this request.
Staff recommends approval of Act-23-01, the request by
Nip-N-Sip Drive In, Nording Corporation, for the City of
Lansing to either:
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1. vacate the right-of-way, reserving access and utility
easements, or
2. provide a long term license (paying fair market value
according to an appraisal by the Assessor's office or
an outside appraiser) for the private use of the
Banghart Right-of-Way west of Northeast Street,
measuring 60' wide by 150' deep,
provided that the applicant:
1. Complies with site development standards (site plan
review, landscape screening & buffering, etc.),
2. Obtains MDOT permission to use Banghart as a
private drive off of N. East Street, which is a state
trunkline, and
3. Makes appropriate provision for the acquisition or
long-term use of the south half of the Banghart ROW.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Ms. Patrick made a motion, seconded by Mr. Smith to recommend approval of
Act-23-2001, Abandon Banghart St. R-O-W, west of Northeast Street.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Foster. . . Ave
Keene .Ave Patrick Ave
Smith. . .Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 5; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED w/RECOMMENDATIONS.
b. ACT-32-2001, NW corner of Dunckel & Cavanaugh,
Acquire for Street ROW Intersection
The City Engineer is requesting to acquire property to realign
the intersection of Dunckel and Cavanaugh roads.
Increased development in the Dunckel Road area has
resulted in greater traffic congestion, including residential
development north of Jolly Road in the City of Lansing, and
commercial, industrial, office and school traffic south of Jolly
in Delhi Township. The SE Area Comprehensive Plan
designates the entire area between Dunckel, Jolly, and
Collins Road (the eastern city limits) for multi-family
residential (15-20 units/acre), professional office, and
commercial. Delhi Township has a growing office/industrial
park south of Jolly, served by Dunckel and Pine Tree Roads.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES May 21, 2002, Page 12
This development places increased pressure on the Jolly
Road/US 127 interchange, which is served by Dunckel
Road. Dunckel is five lanes in width at US 127, and narrows
to two lanes as it proceeds west and south toward Jolly.
Turning movements to and from the Trappers Cove complex
and Cavanaugh Road are difficult during peak traffic
periods.
Cavanaugh Road, which serves as a connector between
Aurelius Road and Dunckel, also faces increased pressure,
especially due to restrictions in the Clemens Street
neighborhood at the north end of Aurelius Road.
As a result, Dunckel is proposed for widening from two lanes
to five (four traffic lanes and a left turn lane.) At a later date,
Cavanaugh is slated for widening from two lanes to three,
plus bicycle lanes.
These two projects, plus the SE Plan's recommendations
made in 1981, make the realignment of the Dunckel and
Cavanaugh appropriate. Funds are now available for the
Dunckel Road improvements to take place, and the property
acquisition for the intersection must be completed to secure
these funds.
The location and character of the proposal appears to be
reasonable. The extent of the acquisition is a product of
engineering and negotiation. The Act 285 Review involves a
portion of Lots 1, 2, and 3 of Sonnybrook Plat, and the
proposed intersection alignment reflects AASHTO design
standards. The remaining parcels will be usable in
accordance with the Zoning Ordinance.
Staff recommends approval of Act-32-2001, to authorize
negotiation and purchase of portions of Lots 1, 2, and 3 of
Sonnybrook Plat, for fair market value, for the purpose of
improving the Dunckel/Cavanaugh intersection, provided
that any excess property be resold to the property owner.
Ms. Foster stated that Cavanaugh Road is quite residential
and is slated for widening from two lanes to three plus the
bike lanes. There are no sidewalks and she inquired about
sidewalks being added so people could walk along the
residential streets. She was not sure if three lanes would be
too much. She was concerned about widening all these
streets without an overall sense of where this may be going.
The more the roads are widened, the less there is for public
transportation to even succeed before the roads are so
efficient. She was also concerned about how the house,
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located on the corner of Cavanaugh and Dunckel, would be
impacted by the road. She inquired about a vegetation plan
and how it would protect the house. Mr. Ruff stated that the
structure located near the property is an office and that the
owner owns the adjacent property as well.
A general discussion ensued regarding vegetation, bicycle
lanes, shared use lanes, sidewalks and the necessity of 14'
lanes. Ms. Jane Dykema, Public Service Department
Engineer, was available to discuss in depth the engineering
of Cavanaugh and Dunkel Roads.
A general discussion ensued regarding truck traffic through
this area.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Ms. Patrick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to recommend approval of
ACT-32-2001, NW corner of Dunckel & Cavanaugh, Acquire for Street ROW
Intersection with the conditions that (1) the residences surrounding the area be
notified if they would like to have sidewalks added, and (2) that the City Forester
become involved.
Ms. Keene made a motion, seconded by Mr. Smith to table ACT-32-2001, NW corner
of Dunckel & Cavanaugh, Acquire for Street ROW Intersection until more specific
descriptions, drawings and plans could be provided to the give detailed information
regarding the entire length of Cavanaugh Road between Aurelius and Dunckel Roads.
On a voice vote, motion carried (5-0).
TABLED.
C. ACT-8-2002, Seven (7) City-Owned Lots, Market for Sale
This is a request by the Lansing Parks and Recreation
Department to market for sale seven (7) non-dedicated
parcels under the jurisdiction of the Parks and Recreation
Department, more particularly described as:
Lots 313, 314, 315, 317, 319, 320, and 322
Glenburne Subdivision No. 5, City of Lansing, Eaton
County, Michigan.
Lots 313, 314, and 315 are zoned "A" Single Family
Residential District. Lots 317, 319, 320, and 322 are zoned
"C" One and Two Family Residential District. This is not a
matter of rezoning.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES May 21, 2002, Page 14
Ms. Foster stated that lot 315 had the sign showing Fine
Park. Mr. Jemerson stated there is a sign that will be moved
to the reserved lot for the entrance of Fine Park. He was not
sure how the sign came to be on lot 315 but it is the Park's
plan to move the sign onto the developed lot for the
entrance of Fine Park. Ms. Foster inquired about which lot
would become the entrance to Fine Park. Mr. Jemerson
stated lot -011 would be the entrance to the park.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Ms. Patrick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to recommend approval of
ACT-8-2002, Seven (7) City-Owned Lots, Market for Sale with the following
conditions that (1) if there are any title problems that exist, they will become the
responsibility of the buyer after the conveyance, and (2) if it is determined that a
bid process is required, marketing will be subject to the bid process.
Frederick Ave Foster. Aye
Keene .Ave Patrick Ave
Smith. . .Aye
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 5; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED w/CONDITIONS.
Ms. Patrick stated there will not be an Urban Development
Committee meeting on May 28, 2002 because all the pending
business was handled this evening.
Next meeting, Tuesday, June 25, 2002, at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
Ms. Keene made a motion; seconded by Ms. Foster to dissolve into the Committee of
the Whole. On a voice vote, the motion carried.
3a. Committee of the Whole, Mr. Smith, Chair
a. Act-27-2001, 313 E. Grand River Ave. (Comfort Station)
Marketing for Sale
This is to consider Act-27-2001, the marketing for sale of the
property at 313 E. Grand River for use by non-profit
organization(s).
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to remove Act-27-2001 from the
table. On a voice vote, the motion carried.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES May 21, 2002, Page 15
Bill Rieske gave a brief overview.
Mr. Jemerson presented the Board with a memo regarding
the closure of the Comfort Station, a memo regarding cost
estimates and critical maintenance issues, and photos
indicating areas of disrepair. He stated that the Comfort
Station did not come to the Parks and Recreation
Department until January 31, 2002, when the lease had
expired. The Parks and Recreation Department has not
been involved until now and the Comfort Station is not a
budgeted item within the department. The department did
not have a key to the Comfort Station until the department
had been informed of it being surplus property and that this
surplus property had a lease that ran out January 31, 2002.
He was informed by Mr. Emil Winnicker, Planning and
Neighborhood Development Office. At that time the
question was asked of Mr. Jemerson to continue this and he
stated the department could not because there is no budget
whatsoever for this facility. The facility is not within the
department's five year plan. The department has other
facilities nearby, the Turner Dodge facility and Gier
Community Center, that are included in the budget and are
open to the general public. He agreed with the staff
recommendations, presented by Mr. Winnicker, to sell the
property with caveats as mentioned in the staff report that
deal with maintaining the historic facade of this facility as
well as making sure the public has access to the facility.
The department has recognized that it has been used for the
North Lansing Community Association. After walking
through the facility, it is in a state of disrepair. He stated that
this type of facility within the Parks and Recreation
Department would have been closed a long time ago and
that the department does not have any of its facilities with
restrooms looking like this. He toured the facility with the
Park Maintenance Supervisor as well as the Supervisor of
Building Maintenance. In February 2002, the Park Board
reviewed and listened to the citizens of north Lansing and
the North Lansing Community Association. The Board
tabled their recommendation on the ACT 285 review until
the next month and then made a recommendation to the
Mayor for the facility to go for sale and supported the staff
recommendation. In the mean time, the Parks and
Recreation Department would go ahead and have keys
made for the facility, which have been done. The
department also offered to the community the ability to meet
in the facility under a special use permit. The department
had one group, the Thelma Osteen Youth Group, that came
to the department and made application for the special use
permit and this was prior to his visit to the facility. The
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department granted the group use of the facility and the
group met three times in the facility. Then he had his visit.
When he was informed of the possibility of lead based paint
as well as asbestos and then the Fire Marshall came
through the facility and recommended closure based on
some fire, health and safety hazards that were discovered,
he recommended to the Mayor to close the facility. The
department moved the youth group to the Turner Dodge
House and they will be meeting there while this whole issue
is being addressed. He stated that he passed out to the
Board the information that one of the speakers referred to
earlier. This was in response to a question during his
budget hearing for the department for the FY 2003 fiscal
year. He had a question regarding the Comfort Station in
terms of putting together an estimated cost to maintain the
Comfort Station. He stated that if the department was to
maintain the facility, which the department currently has
now, it would have to pay an estimate close to $40,000 a
year. Before the department could even do that, the
department would have to address all the issues that Mr.
Marty Riel put together in the visit to the facility. Mr. Riel
estimated the cost to bring the facility up to current codes
between $120,000 to $175,000. Primarily the issues deal
with handicap accessability. As far as getting to the second
level and the restrooms, they are not ADA accessible. So
the department would have to put in some very significant
dollars to bring this facility up to code. Where these dollars
would come from, he is not exactly sure because this is a
facility that is not within the Parks and Recreation
Department budget. That is another reason why the
department agrees with the staff recommendation. The
department does not feel as though it has the need in this
area to take on another community center when the
department has Turner Dodge within a half mile. The
department has done very extensive renovations to Turner
Dodge. The friends of Turner Dodge received a grant to do
some interior restoration and this was a matching grant of
$200,000 from the State of Michigan and the City has put in
at least $127,000 to replace the fire suppression system at
Turner Dodge. Also, Gier Community Center is another full
service recreation facility community center that is not even
a mile away from the Comfort Station. The department feels
that it has a number of major priorities facing it that need to
be addressed well before the consideration of the
department taking on another facility like this. The
department feels that this facility is not one that is needed at
this point in time. He stated that the memo he addressed to
the Mayor regarding his decision to close the facility and
also attached to it is the Fire Marshall's report. Again, this is
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a facility that the department does support the staff
recommendation with caveats that it be held open for public
access as well as the restoration and preservation of the
historic facade.
Mr. Smith inquired about the staff recommendations. He
stated that the second recommendation said, "The City
should manage the property for community use until the time
of sale." If we follow the assumption after what Mr.
Jemerson has said here concerning the safety of the
building and the potential liabilities, is he correct in assuming
that this would mean the building would remain closed until it
is sold? Mr. Jemerson stated that it was correct.
Mr. Frederick inquired about a community group or groups
that would have the wherewithall to purchase and
rehabilitate the building to make it fit for habitation. He
stated that it does not seem to be fit for that right now and
that there seems to be some fairly hazardous conditions.
He would be hesitant to even offer this facility for sale
without making sure whoever it was sold to had the
wherewithall to bring it up to code.
Mr. Ruff stated that some of the issues that are on this list,
especially with Mr. Jemerson's list make the facility ADA
accessible and such, would not necessarily be a
requirement of a group that would continue its use. Abating
flaking lead base paint or sealing off of asbestos laden pipe
coverings can be done as health issues without going in and
installing an elevator. If a group had the facility, it would
have to make all those improvements. If someone gets a
major building permit to renovate the entire building, one
might do all those things. We're not looking at a major
change at the building's use. The Building Safety Office
went through the facility and there are things that need to be
done but are not insurmountable to getting it done. With the
conditions that the Planning Office was requesting, like the
preservation of the facade and some community use to it,
obviously that would affect the sale price as well as any
necessary improvements. It may be nominal or close to a
nominal sale price to an organization to also fill those
requirements.
Mr. Frederick stated disregarding the ADA requirements, an
elevator would be quite pricey and would not expect that to
have to be done. He sees some fairly serious situations with
lack of wired smoke alarms, electrical system problems,
leaking water into the basement, and plumbing looks like it is
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES May 21, 2002, Page 18
not in good shape. It looks like anybody in the facility right
now could get beaned by the kitchen cabinet if the post
came out from underneath it. He did not realize the facility
was in such bad shape. The Board heard testimony tonight
that it would take $51,000 to bring the facility up to some
semblance of safety and even that would be a stretch for a
lot of community groups to raise.
Ms. Keene inquired about the marketing of the facility and if
it is feasible to believe that a community group is going to be
willing to take this on. Mr. Jemerson stated that there are
community groups that are interested in the facility. He
would leave the marketing up to the real estate people within
the Planning and Neighborhood Development. He is
present tonight to say that this is not a budgeted item within
the City of Lansing, Parks and Recreation Department and
as it stands right now, the department is paying utilities on a
facility that should really remain closed until issues are
addressed. The department cannot open a facility in this
state. He would leave all the marketing up to the Planning
and Neighborhood Development office to put forth some
type of strategy to turn this facility over to someone else.
Ms. Foster inquired about the budget and how much the City
did pay to maintain the building before the lease expired.
Mr. Jemerson stated that he has no history, recollection,
written record or anything on this facility. He did not even
have the keys to this facility. Ms. Foster stated that nothing
came out of the Parks and Recreation Department budget
for this facility. Mr. Jemerson stated nothing. Ms. Foster
stated that nothing is budgeted currently for this facility. Mr.
Jemerson stated that is correct. Ms. Foster inquired about
the lease and had it not expired, this facility would not even
be subject to sale. Mr. Jemerson stated that if the lease was
still in affect, yes. Ms. Foster wanted to know what the
objection would be of renewing the lease knowing that the
organization would take care of liability, maintenance and all
the other issues. Mr. Jemerson stated that this would be a
part of the Parks and Recreation Department and that the
department did not have any financial impact prior to this.
The Board can see the financial impact that the facility would
have if the department were to maintain the facility. Ms.
Foster inquired about why the facility has to be a part of
Parks. She stated that if it were leased before under Parks,
and if it get leased again it would still be under Parks. Mr.
Jemerson stated that he was not clear on how this facility
got to Parks and Recreation in the first place. The process
did not include asking the department about how this facility
fits in with the five year plan of the Parks and Recreation
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Department way back when. He does not have the history
of when it came to the department but it would be a lease
that the department would have to operate and control. The
department just does not have that type of leadership to deal
with this facility. Ms. Foster inquired about the previous
lease being operated by Parks. Mr. Jemerson stated no, the
department did not. Ms. Foster asked about who operated
the previous lease. Mr. Jemerson stated that Mr. Winnicker
in Planning and Development maintained the lease, not
Parks and Recreation. Ms. Foster inquired about if there
had been a physical change and that this property now
cannot have a lease from the same place. Mr. Ruff stated
that much of the sale of the property is done if long term
leased managed. The real estate, not the property
management, is managed through the Development office
whether it is for sale or long term lease. This lease had
expired and there were concerns about its continued use.
So the question was raised about continuing to lease it long
term or selling it. There was a process and a
recommendation was made by the Parks Board to sell it, so
the Planning and Neighborhood Development office is
responding to it. Ms. Foster inquired about the lease and if
leased again, would go through the same office. Mr. Ruff
stated that it would go through the same office for a long
term lease. Ms. Foster stated that it would still be out of the
Parks Department budget and that there seems to be a
community group that really loves this building. If it gets
leased with the conditions that these issues will be
addressed within the first two years, if the community group
does not meet that then the property could be sold. Mr. Ruff
stated that there could be reverter clauses in the lease or in
the sale. Ms. Foster stated that the City has not put one
penny into it. Mr. Ruff stated that there has been a variety of
possible recommendations in the report. Mr. Rieske stated
the possible recommendations to consider are on pages 8
and 9 of the staff report and that on page 10 there is a
summary with a recommendation for approval of the
marketing for sale with conditions. He stated that there were
a number of options reviewed and basically came up with
this one. Ms. Foster stated that the maintaining of the
building in City property, it is a historic building and she
would hate for the City to lose it. This gives the most
flexibility and will allow the group to stay at the facility and
repair it so there is no money coming off the City budget for
that. Yet it also gives flexibility in the future if the City wants
to do something else with it.
Mr. Jemerson stated the group that was occupying the
facility and who had the lease, did approach the Park Board
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requesting that the lease be continued. If there was a sale,
the group would have the first right of refusal. But, it was
very apparent to the Park Board that the organization had
some problems contained within the organization itself and
could not decide on how the organization would operate. It
made the Park Board feel very uncomfortable. That is why
the Park Board tabled it to see if the organization could get
itself together because there was a lot of bickering amongst
themselves. In the end, the Park Board did not feel
comfortable with renewing the lease with the organization
that held the lease. That was part of the Park Board's
thinking also as to why they did not continue or vote to
continue the lease.
Mr. Frederick stated that all these discussion about leases is
making him very nervous after having seen the pictures.
One thing that he is concerned with Ms. Foster suggested
leasing the facility to the community organization and having
them accept the liability. He did not believe this could be
done. After seeing the pictures, he does not think Ms.
Eleanor Love's department would allow this facility to be
leased to anybody if it were a private building. He thought
Ms. Love would be over there slapping a red tag on it. He
cannot, in good conscience, recommend the City lease
something in this condition without making it safe. This will
clearly cost a lot of money and he thought this was Mr.
Jemerson's point. The City does not have the money to
make this a viable building and this even enhances his
concerns that it would be sold to a community group that
would meet in the facility and may or may not be able to get
the wherewithall to make it safe let alone fix it up into an
acceptable condition. He would like to know the City's
liability would be if it was leased in this condition and that
cabinet came off the wall and injured someone. He felt the
City would be liable for it. Mr. Jemerson stated the City
would be liable and that is why it is closed at this point. Mr.
Frederick stated that was the best move the Parks
Department made on this whole thing was getting a look at
the condition of this facility. Looking at it from the outside,
no one can tell that it is in this kind of shape. He would be
very nervous recommending this facility to be leased at all.
Ms. Keene agreed with Mr. Frederick and she does not think
the Board is not in the shoes of the people of the Parks and
Recreation Department. The Board cannot micromanage
and tell them what they should take care of and they are in a
better position to know about those kind of things as a
starting point. If the community has allowed the facility to
deteriorate like this, and she could not say what the facility
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES May 21, 2002, Page 21
was like when the organization received it, she cannot have
any confidence in their ability to bring the facility up to
standards if it was in this kind of condition during the five
year term of the lease or however long the lease had been,
twenty years or whatever. The liability will remain with the
City even if the City continues to require the community
group to have insurance on the facility. The City is a deep
pocket and if someone is injured because of the lead paint
or some of these cabinets falling, the community group
would be sued but the City of Lansing will also be sued
because whoever is injured is going to look to the City
because the City has a deep pocket. She cannot see
leasing the facility in this kind of condition.
Mr. Jemerson stated that it is not just the money. For him, it
is a need and is there a need for the City to operate a
community center when there are two facilities already. He
cannot see that. He can understand there is a need and
desire in the community to meet in this facility because of
fact that this was a facility that came on line because of the
efforts of one of Lansing's favorite north Lansing residence
and that same person, Ms. Thelma Osteen, had a major say
and major role to play in the Turner Dodge House in the
restoration of that facility too. He is looking at this from a
facility standpoint, is the Parks Department supplying
adequate spots for people to meet and he thinks the
department is with the two facilities that the department
already has and that this could continue to be a facility to
allow the public to meet. It is going to take some money.
Ms. Foster stated that the condition of the building definitely
needs attention. She was wondering as to the schedule and
if it were possible to allow the community to repair this
facility or give them one year to get the facility up to snuff so
that maybe later on it can be leased. Mr. Jemerson stated
that he would not recommend that based on the experience
as far as community involvement in some of the other
projects. He would not want to enter in to another
agreement where the community sometimes bites off a little
bit more than they can chew. What the Board is looking at
in terms of the pictures, i.e. asbestos, that is something a
community group cannot handle. It requires a license to
deal with that as well as abatement of the lead paint. He
would not recommend that at all. Ms. Foster was
recommending that maybe the group could get a contractor
to do the work. She understands that maybe financial may
be a problem. She would be happier recommending this if
the Parks Board had been unanimously in favor of it. It was
a (3-2) decision and that makes her uncomfortable because
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES May 21, 2002, Page 22
there was enough support to try to re-lease this property.
Mr. Jemerson stated that the Parks Board is an advisory
board. He thinks the pictures tell the story in terms of a
facility that was mismanaged and was not maintained. The
Parks and Recreation Department does have standards and
there is no way they would open or lease a facility like that.
There are some facilities that are currently closed that look
better than this facility. Ms. Foster stated that her concern is
that it is true this facility was definitely mismanaged and that
the community groups did not keep it up to the way it should
have been. Knowing the community group could lose this
building, she was wondering if they would be able to truly
come together to save this building and if they need to be
given the time to be able to do that. Find some kind of a
method to give the organization the time to come together
and save this building and if they cannot, then go ahead and
sell it. They were given the chance. She feels that they
mismanaged and did not do it properly. Mr. Jemerson
stated the department did give the community some time to
try to work out the internal problems and did not get a good
result in return. The staff recommendation is that
community access be maintained by a new owner and that
would be a caveat or it would revert back to City ownership if
that was not held. There is not a risk of losing community
access if it was acted upon.
Mr. Smith stated that the situation the Parks Department is
in if options were given to a community group to possibly
build this facility up to code, then the department would be
back in the situation of signing a lease agreement and
acknowledging the existing problems which would expose
the department to greater liability. Mr. Jemerson stated it
would not be a lease, it would be a sale. Mr. Smith referred
back to the management of the property for community use
until time of sale. For the community group who were in the
facility right now there is no existing lease with them. They
are out and gone. Mr. Jemerson stated that is correct.
Discussion continued.
Mr. Jemerson stated that there were some folks in the
audience who wanted to make a comment. Mr. Smith asked
the Board if they wanted to indulge this. Mr. Frederick
stated he was not in support of this and that there was a
public hearing and two sessions of public commentary
where the people clearly made their desires known to him.
Ms. Keene agreed. Mr. Smith also agreed and stated that
there has been ample opportunity for public input and Mr.
Jemerson was invited to tonight's meeting specifically to
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES May 21, 2002, Page 23
address a specific concern. Ms. Keene stated that this goes
to City Council after it leaves the Board and that there will be
another opportunity to address concerns at that time as well.
Ms. Patrick stated that where it says the City should manage
the property for community use, maybe take out the phrase
"for community use" and say "The City shall manage the
property until it is sold."
Ms. Keene made a motion, seconded by Mr. Frederick to recommend approval of
Act-27-2001, 313 E. Grand River Ave. (Comfort Station) Marketing for Sale with the
recommended conditions that (1) reserve an historic facade easement in
perpetuity, (2) accommodate the current license for equipment owned by Sharp
Technologies and currently located on the site, (3) the property be marketed
preferably to community group or groups for broad-based community use, (4) the
name of the building remain as the "Thelma Joyce Osteen Comfort Station" as
designated by City Council Resolution #077 of 1999, and (5) the City manage the
property until it is sold.
On a voice vote, the motion carried.
Ms. Keene made a motion, seconded by Mr. Frederick to arise from the Committee of
the Whole.
On a voice vote, the motion carried.
3b. Committee of the Whole, Mr. Smith, Chair
a. Act-27-2001, 313 E. Grand River Ave. (Comfort Station)
Marketing for Sale
This is to consider Act-27-2001, the marketing for sale of the
property at 313 E. Grand River for use by non-profit
organization(s).
Mr. Rieske clarified that it was inferred from the previous
motions that the license for Sharp Technologies would be
continued. Mr. Frederick stated this was a matter of public
interest.
Ms Foster stated that she would like for the community to
have the option first.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES May 21, 2002, Page 24
Referencing the Committee of the Whole discussion on this matter and concurring with
the Committee of the Whole action, Mr. Smith made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene
to recommend approval of Act-27-2001, 313 E. Grand River Ave. (Comfort Station)
Marketing for Sale with the recommended conditions that (1) reserve an historic
facade easement in perpetuity, (2) accommodate the current license for
equipment owned by Sharp Technologies and currently located on the site, (3)
the property be marketed preferably to community group or groups for broad-
based community use, (4) the name of the building remain as the "Thelma Joyce
Osteen Comfort Station" as designated by City Council Resolution #077 of 1999,
and (5) the City manage the property until it is sold.
Frederick. . . Ave Foster. . . Nay
Patrick . .Ave Smith . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye
Keene. . .Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 4; Nays: 1; carried;
CARRIED.
Act-27-2001, 313 E. Grand River Ave. (Comfort Station) Marketing for Sale has
been recommended for approval with conditions and recommendations.
4. Executive Committee - None.
C. REPORT FROM PLANNING MANAGER
1. Wolverine Pipeline Update.
2. Windsor Charter Township letter - PB action to refer to Urban
Development Committee.
3. Master Plan Updates.
4. Development Planning Committee Meeting on May 23, 2002.
5. BTS meeting on May 22, 2002.
6. Ms. Cordill will be returning in June.
Ms. Keene made a motion, seconded by Mr. Smith to refer the request from Windsor
Township Planning Commission report to the Urban Development Committee. On a
voice vote, motion carried (5-0).
REFERRED.
D. Pending Items: Future action required
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a. Z-1-1998, 1223 N.Turner St.,"H" Light Industrial District to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled February 11, 1998)
b. Z-5-1998,401-407 E. Grand River,"F"Commercial District to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled June 10, 1998)
C. Z-8-2000, 3901 S. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd., "F" Commercial to"H" Light
Industrial District(Tabled June 14, 2000)
d. Z-15-2000, 301 W. Lenawee Street, Professional Office to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled January 17, 2001)
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES May 21, 2002, Page 25
e. P-1-2001,Tentative Preliminary Plat,Wexford Woods (Tabled June 13, May 9,
2001)
f. PRD-2-2001,"Crystal Woods", Planned Residential Neighborhood (Tabled
August 15,2001)
g. SLU-6-2001, 517-519 E. Grand River Ave., Church in 7-1"Commercial District
(Tabled November 14,2001)
h. SLU-8-2001, 3000 W. Miller Road,Additional Parking for an Existing Church
(Tabled November 14,2001)
i. SLU-3-2002,2710 N. Grand River Ave., Church in the 7"Commercial District&
"J"Parking District(Tabled May 15, 2002)
j. Ordinance Amendments, Accessory Structures (Action expected)
2. Urban Development Committee
a. Act-9-2000, 201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj. Sign Over ROW (Tabled
June 27,2000)
b. Act-2-2002, Lansing Housing Commission Property, 310 Seymour,Acquisition
for public purposes (Tabled February 26, 2002)
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planning Board
8. NEW BUSINESS - None.
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON - None.
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Mr. Smith stated that he had asked not to be extended after his term expires the
end of June. He will be leaving the Board and had enjoyed working with all the
Planning Board members. He has put in five years and stated that was a long
time. He accepted a new job with the State Bar of Michigan. He will be working
as a graphic designer starting after the Memorial Day holiday.
Ms. Foster stated that she received an e-mail from Mr. John Gear. He has
pulled his Planning Board member application and she inquired about the
situation. Mr. Ruff gave an overview of the situation. Ms. Foster stated that she
will be on vacation from June 61h - July 18th and requested excused absences.
Mr. Smith made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to approve three excused
absence requests for Ms. Foster for the June 18th, July 2nd, and July 161h
meetings. On a voice vote, motion carried (5-0).
Ms. Patrick requested an excused absence for the June 18th and July 16`h
meetings.
Mr. Smith made a motion, seconded by Ms. Foster to approve an excused
absence request for Ms. Patrick for the June 18th and July 16th meetings. On a
voice vote, motion carried (5-0).
Ms. Patrick stated that on the corner of Pennsylvania and Jolly Road, the used
car lot has moved in. They are making progress on landscaping and she
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES May 21, 2002, Page 26
inquired about why the firm was allowed to move in before the site plan had been
implemented. Mr. Ruff gave an a brief overview.
Mr. Smith made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to approve an excused
absence request for Mr. Ruge for tonight's meeting. On a voice vote, motion
carried (5-0).
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS - None.
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 10:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
PB Minutes.052102.wpd
APPROVED WITH CORRECTIONS: Draft to Clerk May 8,2002
PAGE 1,UNDER OPENING SESSION, 1A, ROLL CALL SIB Approved May 21,2002
FREDERICK, PATRICK,SMITH. To Clerk May 23,2002
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, May 7, 2002
1. OPENING SESSION
The meeting was called to order at 7:10 p.m. by Chairman Frederick.
A. Roll call. Present: Frederick, Keene, Patrick, Smith. The Planning Board
lacked the necessary four members to convene the regularly scheduled
meeting.
B. Staff Attending: Stachowiak, Rieske.
C. Excused absences: Ruge, Foster, Keene and Cordill.
Chairman Frederick stated that the Planning Board does not have a quorum and
therefore, the members who are present will only be holding the two scheduled
public hearings and taking public comments. He further stated that no action
would be taken at this meeting.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA- None.
3. COMMUNICATIONS - None.
Ms. Patrick made a motion, seconded by Mr. Smith to dissolve into the Committee of
the Whole for the purpose of holding the two scheduled public hearings and taking
public comments.
On a voice vote, the motion carried (3-0).
4. HEARINGS
A. SLU-3-2002, 2710 N. Grand River, Church in the"F" Commercial &
"J" Parking Districts
This is a request by Viol Trice for a Special Land Use permit to locate a
church at 2710 N. Grand River Avenue. The church will have seating for
up to 50 people. Zoning of the property is "F" Commercial and "J" Parking
Districts which will allow a church if a Special Land Use permit is granted
by City Council.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES May 7, 2002, Page 2
Susan Stachowiak presented the case, and stated that a full staff report,
including a recommendation, will be provided for the Zoning and
Ordinance Committee meeting.
Mr. Smith asked why the church is currently occupying the building at
2710 N. Grand River.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that the Building Safety Office found that the
church was in operation without any permits from the City. She explained
that there were building code issues as well as zoning issues associated
with the church occupying this building. The building code issues have
been addressed, and if the Special Land Use permit is approved, they will
have the necessary zoning approvals as well.
Ms. Patrick inquired about the tax exemption if the beauty salon continues
to occupy a portion of the building. Ms. Stachowiak stated that the tax
exemption would be based on the percentage of the building that is
occupied by the church.
Viol Trice, 2710 N. Grand River Avenue, spoke in support of his request.
B. SLU-4-2002, 4515 S. Cedar Street, Special Land Use Permit - Child
Care Center
This is a request by Cedarway Free Methodist Church for a Special Land
Use permit to establish a child care center serving 25-30 children in the
existing church fellowship hall at 4515 S. Cedar Street. The property is
zoned "B" Residential District which permits child care centers subject to
approval of a special land use permit by the City Council.
Susan Stachowiak presented the case, and stated that a full staff report,
including a recommendation, will be provided for the Zoning and
Ordinance Committee meeting.
Ms. Patrick stated that the business plan included in the packet for the
child care center was very helpful and contained a lot of detailed
information. She also stated that it would be nice if all of the churches
and day care centers would provide this level of detail with their requests.
Viol Trice, 2710 N. Grand River Avenue, requested a copy of the
business plan for the child care center.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (5 minutes each) - None.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES May 7, 2002, Page 3
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Patrick to arise from the Committee of
the Whole.
On a voice vote, the motion carried (3-0).
6. RECESS - None.
7. BUSINESS SESSION - None.
8. NEW BUSINESS - None.
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON - None.
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS - None.
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS - None.
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 7:25 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
PB Minutes.050702.wpd
Draft to Clerk May 8,2002
Approved 2002
To Clerk 2002
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, May 7, 2002
1. OPENING SESSION
The meeting was called to order at 7:10 p.m. by Chairman Frederick.
A. Roll call. Present: Frederick, Keene, Patrick. The Planning Board lacked
the necessary four members to convene the regularly scheduled meeting.
B. Staff Attending: Stachowiak, Rieske.
C. Excused absences: Ruge, Foster, Keene and Cordill.
Mr. Frederick stated that the Planning Board does not have a quorum and
therefore, the members who are present will only be holding the two scheduled
public hearings and taking public comments. He further stated that no action
would be taken at this meeting.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA - None.
3. COMMUNICATIONS - None.
Ms. Patrick made a motion, seconded by Mr. Smith to dissolve into the Committee of
the Whole for the purpose of holding the two scheduled public hearings and taking
public comments.
On a voice vote, the motion carried (3-0).
4. HEARINGS
A. SLU-3-2002, 2710 N. Grand River, Church in the"F" Commercial &
"J" Parking Districts
This is a request by Viol Trice for a Special Land Use permit to locate a
church at 2710 N. Grand River Avenue. The church will have seating for
up to 50 people. Zoning of the property is "F" Commercial and "J" Parking
Districts which will allow a church if a Special Land Use permit is granted
by City Council.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES May 7, 2002, Page 2
Susan Stachowiak presented the case and stated that a full staff report,
including a recommendation, will be provided for the Zoning and
Ordinance Committee meeting.
Mr. Smith asked why the church is currently occupying the building at
2710 N. Grand River.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that the Building Safety Office found that the
church was in operation without any permits from the City. She explained
that there were building code issues as well as zoning issues associated
with the church occupying this building and that the building code issues
have been addressed, and if the Special Land Use permit is approved,
they will have the necessary zoning approvals as well.
Ms. Patrick inquired about the tax exemption if the beauty salon continues
to occupy a portion of the building. Ms. Stachowiak stated that the tax
exemption would be based on the percentage of the building that is
occupied by the church.
Viol Trice, 2710 N. Grand River Avenue, spoke in support of his request.
B. SLU-4-2002, 4515 S. Cedar Street, Special Land Use Permit - Child
Care Center
This is a request by Cedarway Free Methodist Church for a Special Land
Use permit to establish a child care center serving 25-30 children in the
existing church fellowship hall at 4515 S. Cedar Street. The property is
zoned "B" Residential District which permits child care centers subject to
approval of a special land use permit by the City Council.
Susan Stachowiak presented the case and stated that a full staff report,
including a recommendation, will be provided for the Zoning and
Ordinance Committee meeting.
Ms. Patrick stated that the business plan included in the packet for the
child care center was very helpful and contained a lot of detailed
information. She also stated that it would be nice if all of the churches
and day care centers would provide this level of detail with their requests.
Viol Trice, 2710 N. Grand River Avenue, requested a copy of the
business plan for the child care center.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (5 minutes each) - None.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES May 7, 2002, Page 3
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Patrick to arise from the Committee of
the Whole.
On a voice vote, the motion carried (3-0).
6. RECESS - None.
7. BUSINESS SESSION - None.
8. NEW BUSINESS - None.
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON - None.
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS - None.
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS - None.
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 7:25 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
PB Minutes.050702.wpd
Approved as written 5-21-02 Draft to Clerk May 3,2002
Approved May 21,2002
To Clerk May 23,2002
Minutes of the Special Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, April 23, 2002
1. OPENING SESSION
The meeting was called to order at 7:02 p.m. by Chairman Frederick.
A. Roll call. Present: Frederick, Foster, Keene, Patrick, Smith, Ruge.
B. Staff Attending: Ruff, Rieske.
C. Excused absence: Ms. Cordill.
It was moved by Mr. Smith, supported by Ms. Patrick to approve an excused
absence for Ms. Cordill. On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0).
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
It was moved by Mr. Smith, supported by Ms. Keene to approve the revised
agenda. On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0).
3. COMMUNICATIONS
A. The City Clerk's Office reported to the City Council on April 22, 2002 a
petition in opposition to the pipeline with 374 signatures.
Mr. Ruff stated that the attorneys for Wolverine Pipe Line presented some
addendums to the Environmental Report which they had submitted previously in
one of the six standing notebooks and that the Board members had already
received that addendum within their Environmental Report. He also stated that
for the record Ms. Christine Soneral from Dykema Gossett made sure the packet
was delivered to the Planning Office and that the Board members were aware
that the packet was here and had already been part of the their documents.
4. HEARINGS - None.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE
Seeing no one wishing to address the Board, Mr. Frederick closed the public
comment period.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 2
6. RECESS was not taken by the Board.
7. BUSINESS SESSION
A. There were no minutes to approve at this time.
B. Committee Reports
1. ZONING AND ORDINANCE COMMITTEE, Mr. Ruge, Chair
Next meeting, Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
2. URBAN DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, Ms. Patrick, Chair
Ms. Patrick stated that the UDC meeting for tonight had been
postponed.
Next meeting, Tuesday, May 28, 2002, at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
Ms. Keene made a motion; seconded by Mr. Ruge to dissolve into the Committee of the
Whole.
On a voice vote, the motion carried.
3a. Committee of the Whole, Mr. Smith, Chair
a. Act-7-2002, Gasoline Pipeline in 1-96 Right-of-Way,
Wolverine Pipe Line Company
Mr. Rieske stated that the transcript of the public hearing
minutes in draft form had been distributed to the Board
members.
Mr. Ruff stated that he passed along to the Board in their
packets a basic memorandum to remind the Board to bring
their staff report and then pointed out some information to
make sure the Board was aware with regard to US GAO
report as well as the staff report information in the
depositions. This was the MPSC staff deposition along with
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 3
the MPSC staff reports that were part of the deposition
record as well. Mr. Ruff also stated the main thing from a
staff stand point was, the folks representing Wolverine have
heard from him before, the concerns the City had with
putting at risk, even though it was testified that the risk is
debatable, the environmental concerns such as the well
head protection areas and the construction that takes place
in the right of way. One of the evenings that he was on his
way home down 1-96 and he was going around 1-96 and saw
a gentleman out in the 1-96 right of way cutting down a tree.
There was an older gentleman down near the right of way
edge and Edgewood Blvd. This was on the north side of the
expressway along that southern route. He was cutting down
a tree and he had his old pickup truck out there. People do
get out in the right of way every now and then. Maybe he
had a permit. Mr. Ruff stated that he thought it was quite
unusual. Even though this is a limited access highway, the
City believes there is activity that does take place. You can
see some of the construction activity that takes place even
with rebuilding some of the roadway on the west side in the
township. There are 40,000 plus vehicles that travel by
there every day and there is a risk involved in that. Mr. Ruff
stated that he did not go beyond the most recent report of at
least referring to the Blackman Township incident but if the
Board noted any other, there are web sites out there that
have a lot of information and pipeline incidents and
testimony in front of the U.S. House of Representatives on
different things regarding pipeline incidents such as one out
in Bellingham, WA where a pipeline broke and ruptured and
fumes filled the valley adjoining it and burning up a one and
a half mile length of corridor of that valley and killing three
young people. As more pipelines are built, according to the
GAO report, the pipeline leaks have not necessarily
dissipated in numbers, even though technology get better.
There are more pipelines out there as you go over the
course of time and there is a corresponding risk that goes
with it. The City is concerned about risk and being the
central city of the area. As the City goes, the area goes
from both an economic and environmental stand point
because the City helps supply water to the entire region.
The Board has more recently looked at wellhead protection
through the Board of Water and Light and the Wellhead
Protection Program. It was recommended as an item for
continued pursuit back when it came to the Board. It is also
not recognized in the Master Plan as a utility corridor. 1-96 is
recognized as a highway but not promoted in the Master
Plan documents for utilities. While the State of Michigan
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 4
has opened up the opportunity to have utilities in the
corridor, Mr. Ruff felt a need of prudence in how it is
handled. Having one type of use in a corridor may be
different than another type of use just as similarly as you
have different uses within varying zoning districts where
some are more innocuous than others or less potentially
problematic to adjoining properties, environmentally, etc.
You do look at the range of uses that come through and
when you make zoning decisions you also look at the range
of uses even though there might a particular proposal. The
City does not control or have ownership of Wolverine
Pipeline. The company could change hands, management
or practice. The City would not be controlling that at that
point. This is a long term facility and the City has to look at
the long term picture here. If it is a pipeline that should be
able to be constructed and it is in a good manner that would
last one hundred years or more, it is very difficult for the City
to understand the promise of management of a facility of
that length of time as well. Yes, there are some very
positive points of having a new pipe over an old pipe but the
pipe's placement is very important. Mr. Ruff stated that he
felt this is a regional question and a regional type of project
and would have approached the Tri-County Regional
Planning Commission. This could be an avenue of pursuit
because right now they are going through a regional growth
study and could even incorporate this into that regional
growth study as far as green ways and utility corridors for
those types of things that would befit proper Master Planning
principles. The Planning Office feels this is inconsistent
with the surrounding area and Master Plans. It is also
inconsistent to place the risk in the largest community in the
tri-county area and that there could be a significant case for
environmental injustice as well based upon the previous
application. The comparison of the two areas as is seen in
the summary by the Law Office, there is a good case for
that. He stated that the Planning Office recommended that
the application to run the pipeline through the City on the I-
96 corridor be denied.
Mr. Ruge inquired about what recourse Wolverine had if the
application is denied and whether Wolverine could apply to
City Council or sue the City. Mr. Ruff stated that the
recommendation will go to City Council. It was applied to
the Law Office and the City Council recommended that the
Planning Board do an Act 285 review to gather information
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 5
and make a recommendation. Mr. Ruff anticipates having a
letter to the Mayor tomorrow of the determination of
whatever decision was rendered this evening. Then it would
be on the City Council agenda Monday night for receipt and
taken up as a business item. Mr. Ruff stated that he was not
sure of the date City Council would take it up and that the
City Council has a budget hearing the first of May. The City
Council will be selecting a new Council person to fill Mr.
Adado's vacated seat and some other significant items on
their agenda. Mr. Ruff anticipates before the end of May,
City Council would have made a recommendation. He
stated that the submitted material would go to the Michigan
Public Service Commission and that with the MPSC the
material could become part of their records. As support for
or lack of support with the applicant's application with the
MPSC, potentially this could get to the point, depending
upon the situation, where it could easily end up in court but
that would be up to the Mayor's Office, Law Office and City
Council.
Mr. Frederick stated that he spent a lot of time reviewing all
the options and considering everything given to the Board.
At the public hearing, he asked Mr. Cole if his company had
considered rather than building the 22 mile long pipeline to
meet with the terminal that the company considered moving.
Mr. Cole indicated that the terminal was not owned by
Wolverine Pipe Line. It was owned by one of the shippers
and that Mr. Cole doubted Marathon National Petroleum
would consider moving the terminal. Mr. Frederick was not
particularly surprised or distressed with Mr. Cole's response
because he is in the pipeline business and not in the
terminal building business. In all of the testimony, reports,
etc. that Mr. Frederick had read, the only thing that he saw
the MPSC to consider was the Meridian Township route was
not suitable and that the Township recommended other
routes and eventually settled on the 1-96 route. Mr.
Frederick stated that not all the alternatives to this pipeline
that might be safer in the long run were considered. He had
read a lot of safety reasons that the MPSC had cited as a
hazzard for the Meridian Township route but that they
seemed to apply to the 1-96 route as well. He could not see
a whole lot of difference and that there are a lot of people
and a lot of development along both routes. If the Meridian
Township route is not justifiable then he believed the 1-96
route is not justifiable either. One of the things MPSC cited
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in particular was the spill risk to the Saginaw esker if a spill
occurred in the Meridian Township route. He couldn't
understand why this didn't apply to the Mason esker that the
pipeline would cross if it went down the 1-96 route. He did
not see where the geology could be that much different that
there would a risk to the Saginaw esker and not to the
Mason esker. Although there are a number of reasons why
the risk to the Mason esker would be minimal and he felt the
same reason could be used with Meridan Township as well.
The applicant, Mr. Cole, also stated that underground
storage tanks from service stations in Lansing are leaking
and that these tanks have not threatened the water supply in
Lansing. Mr. Frederick considered these leaks a risk and
since he has been on the commission he has attempted to
at least mitigate, if not, get them cleaned up. The most
recent case being a used car dealership that was approved
at Jolly Road and Pennsylvania Avenue. The City was not
able to get the car dealership to do any clean up but the
dealership did do a more extensive cap over the top to keep
ground water from percolating down. He also believed a
spill would endanger many residents along the 1-96 corridor
because of the number of above ground drains that cross
the freeway. One of the developments that the Board had
considered two meetings ago, had a drain that limited the
amount of development that could take place on the
property. That particular drain would be crossed by the
pipeline and it would cross from the development across the
1-96 corridor and drain on the other side. He was not sure
which direction the drain would flow but either it would flow
north into the Sycamore Creek and drain into the businesses
and residences there or drain the other way into the
development that the Board considered. The MPSC cited
that the development of the existing Meridian Township line
right of way, business and residential, specifically Meridian
Mall, is a reason to select a different route. While this may
sound logical, it appears to him that the Wolverine Pipe Line
Company purchased an existing right of way from a
company that didn't preserve its right of way and limit
development with them in the distance that they seem to
think the 1-96 route provides. To him, that is a self-imposed
hardship and perhaps Wolverine Pipe Line should have
taken that into consideration, although Wolverine did
propose initially to develop the Meridian Township route. It
was the MPSC that recommended the other alternate
routes. From His experience sitting with the Planning Board
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and Board of Zoning and Appeals, self-imposed hardships
are not a justification to move a development from one place
to another. Self-imposed hardships are just that and the
company or the applicant has to live with them.
Mr. Ruge inquired about the City hiring an expert to assess
alternative routes where the pipeline could be built. Mr. Ruff
stated that the City hired an appraiser, Mr. Charles Green,
who also had experience in recommending right of ways for
electrical service corridors. Mr. Green proposed two
alternative routes that would connect to their system and
then there were four routes proposed by the MPSC staff in
their first report on the Meridian Township case. Mr. Ruff
referred to the testimony and exhibits of Mr. Green. In the
testimony are the two routes he described including the
maps. Mr. Ruff stated that this is a regional type of issue
and that these areas are outside the city of Lansing.
Primarily what the Board is doing today is addressing the
pipeline coming through the city of Lansing.
Ms. Patrick inquired about the specific authority that gives
the MPSC jurisdiction over need and siting or routing of a
petroleum pipeline. Mr. Ruff stated that he could not answer
the question. Ms. Patrick also inquired about the county
taking a position on the additional routes that were
proposed. Mr. Ruff stated that the MPCS has only
addressed those routes that have been applied for and that
MPSC may not have addressed them fully. Mr. Ruff stated
that the Ingham County Commissioner, Ms. Lisa Dedden,
was an intervener in this case as well. Ms. Keene inquired if
Ms. Dedden was an intervener or her own behalf or on
behalf of the County. Mr. Ruff indicated that it may have
been on Ms. Dedden's own behalf as a County official and
that Ms. Dedden represents District 10, which includes most
of this area of Lansing. Mr. Ruff stated it was his
understanding that the ALJ granted intervener status to Ms.
Dedden specifically.
Mr. Ruge stated that Mr. Green recommended two alternate
routes that both seem to follow power line right of ways and
inquired about any discussion or testimony that indicated it
would be unsafe to have a pipeline in the same proximity as
power lines. Mr. Ruff did not recall there being any
testimony of direct correlation of danger between the power
lines and the hazardous liquid pipeline. Mr. Ruff stated that
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 8
there was some testimony by Mr. Proudfoot in the material
he had given to the Board members because there are
utilities within that corridor or in a corridor, whether it is this
one or the Michigan Electric corridor, that there would
potentially be more sets of the utility eyes watching the
corridor in general. This had its advantages that it was not
just isolated to one utility or another. If there were people
reviewing the right of way or the easement for either the
electric or the pipeline and had seen some electrical
problem, maybe it would make it easier for them to
determine more specifically the endangerment to their
facility. This was part of Mr. Proudfoot's cross examination
in some of the materials given to the Board.
Mr. Ruge is very concerned that the Board not be seen as
suffering from the NIMBY syndrome. He stated that it is very
important for the Board to explore if there are other viable
routes that are actually better than the route being proposed.
It appears that there is definitely a need for the pipeline and
that it seems like there would be more potential for problems
with a lot more tanker trucks on the roads than using the
pipeline (i.e. accidents, spills, etc.). He is convinced that
there is a need for a pipeline especially since the Alma gas
refinery closed. In his mind, the question that arises is
whether the best place for the pipeline is to go through south
Lansing. There seemed to be two alternate routes found by
Mr. Green that would avoid heavily populated areas and be
in a utility corridor where it can be monitored more easily.
Mr. Ruff explained that this is a bigger issue than just
directly for this Board and that it is a regional type issue.
The MPSC in the previous case that included the part that
went through Meridian where there were portions of the
route approved and did not approve the Meridian part of the
route. This part was withdrawn by Wolverine. Mr. Ruff
stated that this needs to be handled with the cooperation of
jurisdictions through a regional planning commission type of
venue because Wolverine has had to request authorization
of building a pipeline in each of the communities it has gone
through. Delta could approve the pipeline and Lansing or
Watertown could deny it or where ever and then you have
this jumbled mess that is not cleanly thought through. Not
only a municipality but the entire region. This is what helps
drive even a NIMBY type of appearance, if that were the
case. Again, one of the keys is that the Board has talked in
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 9
a planning sense of how important it is to have a downtown
that is a surviving downtown and thriving, if possible, with
residents and active businesses. The downtown helps drive
the commerce and livability of this City. In the same way,
the City as a whole has the same influence over the region.
Being the major City of the region, the City believes it is
necessary to also protect it as a resource and reduce risk as
necessary. The City of Lansing takes on a lot of the regional
issues simply because of the price of the land or the ease of
access in and around the community. There would probably
be more proposals in the city for things that may be for lower
income housing units, etc. because the City has the facilities
to support those folks and yet in the same way, the City has
to be cautious on protecting all the resources there are
within the City.
Ms. Patrick stated that she would like to propose an
amendment or a consideration on the main motion for the
Board to recommend that this matter be taken to a regional
body that can address the concerns of all the jurisdictions
and present the best possible alternative route. Ms. Keene
stated that she would accept it that alternately what the
Board would be doing is recommending denial with the
recommendation that a regional body review the pipeline
proposal. Mr. Frederick accepted this as well. Mr. Ruff
stated that he has not contacted the Tri-County Regional
Planning Commission.
Mr. Frederick stated that he wanted to change one item
spoken earlier. He did not believe all the alternatives were
evaluated and that he agreed with Mr. Ruge on the
alternative of delivering fuel by truck is definitely more
hazardous than the pipeline. They did consider that
alternative and he agreed that the pipeline would be a better
solution than delivering the fuel by truck.
Mr. Ruff stated that yes a 3.1 million gallon a day pipeline
equates to a number of trucks of fuel. It does not mean that
the trucks all take the same route. As a finite amount of
product on the vehicle and trucks are not eliminated
because the pipeline is in place. Because this pipeline
facilitates a storage facility which then is distributed by
trucks. The same volume that ends up going by the pipeline
will end getting distributed to retailers by truck. Trucks are
not being totally eliminated. The idea of not having a
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 10
pipeline vs. a truck, if it is taken directly, there is a substitute.
It does not mean all the trucks take the same route, that you
have as much volume and you eliminate them because the
trucks still have to go from the storage facility to retail
distribution. It is basically the same or similar size trucks
with fuel and gets distributed throughout this city and other
communities.
Mr. Smith inquired about rail transport of the fuel and stated
that there is a rail line near the terminal. He questioned if
this would be a potential alternative to shipping and tanker
trucks. Mr. Ruff stated that it had not been discussed in
house by City representatives and that he was not sure if it
had been considered by Wolverine or anyone else. Some of
the testimony with regard to safety, when safety was
presented by the MPSC staff, the staff had some charts
displaying pipelines verses tanker truck accidents verses
barge. He was not sure if this had been addressed by rail.
Mr. Smith was struck in reading the material that many of the
same conditions that seem to apply or lead to the denial of
the rejection of the Meridian route seemed to be applicable
on 1-96. This would go through areas of some degree of
congested people in close proximity and the big concern is
that even though the pipeline may be remote, the potential
contamination of ground water, in particularly the Board of
Water and Light wells which are within a half mile of the
proposed pipeline and then there are others that are also in
close proximity. He stated that when Mr. Pollard made a
comment about how people can live without the pipeline but
they cannot live without fresh air and clean water, this was a
point well taken.
Mr. Smith stated that there was a comment made that
Wolverine would exceed all of the regulatory standards and
that he has no doubt they would. Standards are only as
good as the agencies that promulgate them and only as
good as the agencies that enforce them. It is worth
considering that these agencies that promulgate the
standards are also reflecting a certain political point of view
and does not think it can be ignored. He found it interesting
that we are in a situation where there is encouragement to
eliminate the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE)
standards and not hold the auto manufacturers to more strict
standards in terms of milage, i.e. increasing the needs for
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 11
gasoline at the same time the Governor is indicating as are
the auto makers that we should be trying to convert over to
fuel cell technologies. If this is successful, we would be
putting in a pipeline that becomes redundant because in ten
to twenty years the City has switched over to fuel cell
technologies or is it more of a means by which we are
helping out oil companies to sell their product. If we overturn
the CAFE standards as proposed, arguably to allow the auto
industry to concentrate on the development of the fuel cell,
this is the argument being made, then there will be an
increase in demand for gasoline in the interim period. He
suggested that there may be more here than meets the eye.
If we do go toward the use of alternative fuel sources and if
the auto industry does turn toward fuel cell technologies, he
questions whether this thing is going to actually be needed
over time. He questioned whether the potential risk is worth
taking for something that may become unnecessary, it not,
redundant. He pointed out that building this pipeline, we in
no way are going to encourage the conservation of gasoline
or petroleum products or necessarily by building it to
encourage the development of any alternative or renewable
energy sources. This is where our efforts are better
concentrated. He was not convinced by Wolverine's
previous safety record even though they are making their
efforts but we can still look to the record of what happened
in Jackson. He would not want to see this happening in
south Lansing.
Ms. Keene stated that she would echo the Chair's very
comprehensive comments made earlier. She is concerned
about the potential risk for the City's citizens. She is not
convinced that the area of the I-96 route is less dense than
the Meridian Township route. She would like to see
alternate routes explored because she is not convinced that
they were explored to the extent that they could have been.
This is contrary to the Master Plan. This is not a utility
corridor and this is not the place. Our comprehensive plan
does not allow for this type of development of the pipeline.
Because of these reasons, she votes to deny the proposal.
Ms. Foster agreed that by supporting this pipeline we would
not support other alternative sources.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 12
Ms. Keene made a motion, seconded by Mr. Frederick to recommend denial of
Act-7-2002, Gasoline Pipeline in 1-96 Right-of-Way, Wolverine Pipe Line Company
with an additional recommendation that this matter be taken before a regional
body which can better consider the interest of various jurisdictions in the region.
On a voice vote, the motion carried.
Ms. Keene made a motion, seconded by Mr. Ruge to arise from the Committee of the
Whole.
On a voice vote, the motion carried.
3b. Committee of the Whole, Mr. Smith, Chair
a. Act-7-2002, Gasoline Pipeline in 1-96 Right-of-Way,
Wolverine Pipe Line Company
Referencing the Committee of the Whole discussion on this matter and concurring with
the Committee of the Whole action, Mr. Smith made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene
to recommend denial of Act-7-2002, Gasoline Pipeline in 1-96 Right-of-Way,
Wolverine Pipe Line Company with an additional recommendation that this matter
be taken before a regional body (i.e. Tri County Planning Regional Planning or a
representative body of affected/potentially affected communities) for route
consideration.
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On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous;
RECOMMENDATION TO DENY w/ COMMENT.
4. Executive Committee - None.
C. REPORT FROM PLANNING MANAGER
Mr. Ruff stated that at the last meeting Mr. Ruge asked about the East
Michigan Ave. church and the parking lot expansion. The Planning Office
is continuing to go through site plan review because of a resubmittal and
is being reviewed at this time.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 13
Mr. Ruff stated that he attended the presentation by the fifth year senior
Landscape Architecture students and that he interviewed as many as he
could. He had them present it to him so he could better understand their
concepts. Many of the graphics were excellent and that many of the
concepts and some of the problems that were recognized were right on.
The concepts proposed will really
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designed to
do. Stretch peoples imagination
Master Planning.
Mr. Ruff made a note that we are planning on trying to have the North
Lansing Community Association, Thelma Osteen Comfort Station, on the
agenda for the first meeting in May. thee are NLCA aking sure tht we have Anyone interested can do
the information ready and will notify
a follow up with Mr. Rieske from the Planning Office if there are questions
about timing. He stated that this was a special meeting geared toward the
Wolverine Pipeline.
Charlene Decker, resident of 2711 Pleasant Grove Road, stated that
she believed the Alma Refinery was closed for one reason only because
of insufficient profits, not low profits. She also recalled that this was a
headquarters based in Texas but that Wolverine is somehow a part of
that. So there was a good refinery just for insufficient profits and that
bothered her. She did remember reading about that one when some of
this first started. She gave a comment that Mr. Mingg Brewer had said at
the meeting, "we do not have this substantiated yet but the idea of why
this occurred is being heard and they are saying is because they pushed
up the volume and pressure on the gasoline passing through that pipe
and it broke loose because it meant more profit to move this quicker."
This is something that is alleged so far and could come out eventually.
She thought maybe the Alma refinery was an interesting reason for
shutting down a business.
Mr. Smith made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to accept the comments from Ms.
Charlene Decker.
On a voice vote, the motion carried.
D. PENDING ITEMS (future action required)
1. Z7 onina and Ordinance committee
a _ _ Turner St.,"H" Light Industrial District to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled February 11, 1998)
b. Z-5-1998,401-407 E. Grand River,'F commercial District to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled June 10, 1998)
C. Z-8-200b, 3901 S. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.,T"commercial to"H"Light
Industrial District(Tabled June 14, 2000)
d. 15-2000, e January 17 2
1 W. Street, Professional Office to"G-V Business
Di
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 14
e. P-1-2001,Tentative Preliminary Plat,Wexford Woods (Tabled June 13, May 9,
2001)
f. PRD-2-2001,"Crystal Woods", Planned Residential Neighborhood (Tabled
Auggust 15, 2001
g. SLU-6-2001, 51 -519 E. Grand River Ave., Church in"F-1"Commercial District
(Tabled November 14, 2001)
h. SLU-8-2001, 3000 W. Miller Road,Additional Parking for an Existing Church
(Tabled November 14, 2001)Jolly
JI. Ordinanc0e Amennd ments,Front W. Yard SetbaSpecial
and Accessory Land
ory Structures Church
2. Urban Development Committee
a. Act-9-2000,201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj. Sign Over ROW (Tabled June 27,
2000)
b. Act-2-2002, Lansing Housing Commission Property, 310 Seymour,Acquisition
for public purposes (Tabled February 26, 2002)
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planning Board
a. Act-27-2001, 313 E. Grand River Ave. (Comfort Station), Market for Sale (Tabled
April 2, 2002)
8. NEW BUSINESS - None.
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON - None.
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Ms. Keene commented upon the pending closure of two downtown businesses,
Ma-Ah's and Parthenon, in that business vitality is improved through have
downtown residents. Ms. Keene also stated the she was concerned about
possible plans to remove housing from the Oliver Tower site to put in a parking
lot and/or a new city hall, expressing that residential reuse of the site should be
considered further.
Mr. Smith mentioned that the YMCA should work with Boji to combine health
facility efforts. Ms. Keene stated that the loss of the Y downtown will be to
service it provided for families and children living in the downtown area.
Ms. Foster mentioned that when discussing the Comfort Station again, it would
be helpful if the Parks Dept. could provide information on how it handles liability
with other types of facilities on City property (e.g. MSU Crew facility).
Mr. Ruge requested an excused absence for the regular planning Board meeting
scheduled for May 7, 2002 and to notify the members that he would also miss
the May 15, 2002 Zoning & Ordinance Committee meeting. It was moved by Mr.
Smith, supported by Ms. Keene, to excuse Mr. Ruge as requested. The motion
carried. Mr. Ruge has an excused absence for the May 7, 2002 Planning Board
meeting.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 15
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS
Chairman Frederick requested action on the possible illegal signs and pennants
on the wholesale beauty supply building at Clemens and Kalamazoo. Also,
signs are going up around the city on stakes in the right of way that appear
illegal. For an example, see the northeast corner of Jolly and Aurelius.
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 8:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
PB Minutes.042302.wpd
Draft to Clerk Mav 3,2002
Approved May21,2002
To Clerk Mav 23,2002
Minutes of the Special Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, April 23, 2002
1. OPENING SESSION
The meeting was called to order at 7:02 p.m. by Chairman Frederick.
A. Roll call. Present: Frederick, Foster, Keene, Patrick, Smith, Ruge.
B. Staff Attending: Ruff, Rieske.
C. Excused absence: Ms. Cordill.
It was moved by Mr. Smith, supported by Ms. Patrick to approve an excused
absence for Ms. Cordill. On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0).
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
It was moved by Mr. Smith, supported by Ms. Keene to approve the revised
agenda. On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0).
3. COMMUNICATIONS
A. The City Clerk's Office reported to the City Council on April 22, 2002 a
petition in opposition to the pipeline with 374 signatures.
Mr. Ruff stated that the attorneys for Wolverine Pipe Line presented some
addendums to the Environmental Report which they had submitted previously in
one of the six standing notebooks and that the Board members had already
received that addendum within their Environmental Report. He also stated that
for the record Ms. Christine Soneral from Dykema Gossett made sure the packet
was delivered to the Planning Office and that the Board members were aware
that the packet was here and had already been part of the their documents.
4. HEARINGS - None.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE
Seeing no one wishing to address the Board, Mr. Frederick closed the public
comment period.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 2
6. RECESS was not taken by the Board.
7. BUSINESS SESSION
A. There were no minutes to approve at this time.
B. Committee Reports
1. ZONING AND ORDINANCE COMMITTEE Mr. Ruge, Chair
Next meeting, Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
2. URBAN DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, Ms. Patrick, Chair
Ms. Patrick stated that the UDC meeting for tonight had been
postponed.
Next meeting, Tuesday, May 28, 2002, at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
Ms. Keene made a motion; seconded by Mr. Ruge to dissolve into the Committee of the
Whole.
On a voice vote, the motion carried.
3a. Committee of the Whole, Mr. Smith, Chair
a. Act-7-2002, Gasoline Pipeline in 1-96 Right-of-Way,
Wolverine Pipe Line Company
Mr. Rieske stated that the transcript of the public hearing
minutes in draft form had been distributed to the Board
members.
Mr. Ruff stated that he passed along to the Board in their
packets a basic memorandum to remind the Board to bring
their staff report and then pointed out some information to
make sure the Board was aware with regard to US GAO
report as well as the staff report information in the
depositions. This was the MPSC staff deposition along with
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 3
the MPSC staff reports that were part of the deposition
record as well. Mr. Ruff also stated the main thing from a
staff stand point was, the folks representing Wolverine have
heard from him before, the concerns the City had with
putting at risk, even though it was testified that the risk is
debatable, the environmental concerns such as the well
head protection areas and the construction that takes place
in the right of way. One of the evenings that he was on his
way home down 1-96 and he was going around 1-96 and saw
a gentleman out in the 1-96 right of way cutting down a tree.
There was an older gentleman down near the right of way
edge and Edgewood Blvd. This was on the north side of the
expressway along that southern route. He was cutting down
a tree and he had his old pickup truck out there. People do
get out in the right of way every now and then. Maybe he
had a permit. Mr. Ruff stated that he thought it was quite
unusual. Even though this is a limited access highway, the
City believes there is activity that does take place. You can
see some of the construction activity that takes place even
with rebuilding some of the roadway on the west side in the
township. There are 40,000 plus vehicles that travel by
there every day and there is a risk involved in that. Mr. Ruff
stated that he did not go beyond the most recent report of at
least referring to the Blackman Township incident but if the
Board noted any other, there are web sites out there that
have a lot of information and pipeline incidents and
testimony in front of the U.S. House of Representatives on
different things regarding pipeline incidents such as one out
in Bellingham, WA where a pipeline broke and ruptured and
fumes filled the valley adjoining it and burning up a one and
a half mile length of corridor of that valley and killing three
young people. As more pipelines are built, according to the
GAO report, the pipeline leaks have not necessarily
dissipated in numbers, even though technology get better.
There are more pipelines out there as you go over the
course of time and there is a corresponding risk that goes
with it. The City is concerned about risk and being the
central city of the area. As the City goes, the area goes
from both an economic and environmental stand point
because the City helps supply water to the entire region.
The Board has more recently looked at wellhead protection
through the Board of Water and Light and the Wellhead
Protection Program. It was recommended as an item for
continued pursuit back when it came to the Board. It is also
not recognized in the Master Plan as a utility corridor. 1-96 is
recognized as a highway but not promoted in the Master
Plan documents for utilities. While the State of Michigan
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 4
has opened up the opportunity to have utilities in the
corridor, Mr. Ruff felt a need of prudence in how it is
handled. Having one type of use in a corridor may be
different than another type of use just as similarly as you
have different uses within varying zoning districts where
some are more innocuous than others or less potentially
problematic to adjoining properties, environmentally, etc.
You do look at the range of uses that come through and
when you make zoning decisions you also look at the range
of uses even though there might a particular proposal. The
City does not control or have ownership of Wolverine
Pipeline. The company could change hands, management
or practice. The City would not be controlling that at that
point. This is a long term facility and the City has to look at
the long term picture here. If it is a pipeline that should be
able to be constructed and it is in a good manner that would
last one hundred years or more, it is very difficult for the City
to understand the promise of management of a facility of
that length of time as well. Yes, there are some very
positive points of having a new pipe over an old pipe but the
pipe's placement is very important. Mr. Ruff stated that he
felt this is a regional question and a regional type of project
and would have approached the Tri-County Regional
Planning Commission. This could be an avenue of pursuit
because right now they are going through a regional growth
study and could even incorporate this into that regional
growth study as far as green ways and utility corridors for
those types of things that would befit proper Master Planning
principles. The Planning Office feels this is inconsistent
with the surrounding area and Master Plans. It is also
inconsistent to place the risk in the largest community in the
tri-county area and that there could be a significant case for
environmental injustice as well based upon the previous
application. The comparison of the two areas as is seen in
the summary by the Law Office, there is a good case for
that. He stated that the Planning Office recommended that
the application to run the pipeline through the City on the I-
96 corridor be denied.
Mr. Ruge inquired about what recourse Wolverine had if the
application is denied and whether Wolverine could apply to
City Council or sue the City. Mr. Ruff stated that the
recommendation will go to City Council. It was applied to
the Law Office and the City Council recommended that the
Planning Board do an Act 285 review to gather information
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 5
and make a recommendation. Mr. Ruff anticipates having a
letter to the Mayor tomorrow of the determination of
whatever decision was rendered this evening. Then it would
be on the City Council agenda Monday night for receipt and
taken up as a business item. Mr. Ruff stated that he was not
sure of the date City Council would take it up and that the
City Council has a budget hearing the first of May. The City
Council will be selecting a new Council person to fill Mr.
Adado's vacated seat and some other significant items on
their agenda. Mr. Ruff anticipates before the end of May,
City Council would have made a recommendation. He
stated that the submitted material would go to the Michigan
Public Service Commission and that with the MPSC the
material could become part of their records. As support for
or lack of support with the applicant's application with the
MPSC, potentially this could get to the point, depending
upon the situation, where it could easily end up in court but
that would be up to the Mayor's Office, Law Office and City
Council.
Mr. Frederick stated that he spent a lot of time reviewing all
the options and considering everything given to the Board.
At the public hearing, he asked Mr. Cole if his company had
considered rather than building the 22 mile long pipeline to
meet with the terminal that the company considered moving.
Mr. Cole indicated that the terminal was not owned by
Wolverine Pipe Line. It was owned by one of the shippers
and that Mr. Cole doubted Marathon National Petroleum
would consider moving the terminal. Mr. Frederick was not
particularly surprised or distressed with Mr. Cole's response
because he is in the pipeline business and not in the
terminal building business. In all of the testimony, reports,
etc. that Mr. Frederick had read, the only thing that he saw
the MPSC to consider was the Meridian Township route was
not suitable and that the Township recommended other
routes and eventually settled on the 1-96 route. Mr.
Frederick stated that not all the alternatives to this pipeline
that might be safer in the long run were considered. He had
read a lot of safety reasons that the MPSC had cited as a
hazzard for the Meridian Township route but that they
seemed to apply to the 1-96 route as well. He could not see
a whole lot of difference and that there are a lot of people
and a lot of development along both routes. If the Meridian
Township route is not justifiable then he believed the 1-96
route is not justifiable either. One of the things MPSC cited
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in particular was the spill risk to the Saginaw esker if a spill
occurred in the Meridian Township route. He couldn't
understand why this didn't apply to the Mason esker that the
pipeline would cross if it went down the 1-96 route. He did
not see where the geology could be that much different that
there would a risk to the Saginaw esker and not to the
Mason esker. Although there are a number of reasons why
the risk to the Mason esker would be minimal and he felt the
same reason could be used with Meridan Township as well.
The applicant, Mr. Cole, also stated that underground
storage tanks from service stations in Lansing are leaking
and that these tanks have not threatened the water supply in
Lansing. Mr. Frederick considered these leaks a risk and
since he has been on the commission he has attempted to
at least mitigate, if not, get them cleaned up. The most
recent case being a used car dealership that was approved
at Jolly Road and Pennsylvania Avenue. The City was not
able to get the car dealership to do any clean up but the
dealership did do a more extensive cap over the top to keep
ground water from percolating down. He also believed a
spill would endanger many residents along the 1-96 corridor
because of the number of above ground drains that cross
the freeway. One of the developments that the Board had
considered two meetings ago, had a drain that limited the
amount of development that could take place on the
property. That particular drain would be crossed by the
pipeline and it would cross from the development across the
1-96 corridor and drain on the other side. He was not sure
which direction the drain would flow but either it would flow
north into the Sycamore Creek and drain into the businesses
and residences there or drain the other way into the
development that the Board considered. The MPSC cited
that the development of the existing Meridian Township line
right of way, business and residential, specifically Meridian
Mall, is a reason to select a different route. While this may
sound logical, it appears to him that the Wolverine Pipe Line
Company purchased an existing right of way from a
company that didn't preserve its right of way and limit
development with them in the distance that they seem to
think the 1-96 route provides. To him, that is a self-imposed
hardship and perhaps Wolverine Pipe Line should have
taken that into consideration, although Wolverine did
propose initially to develop the Meridian Township route. It
was the MPSC that recommended the other alternate
routes. From His experience sitting with the Planning Board
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 7
and Board of Zoning and Appeals, self-imposed hardships
are not a justification to move a development from one place
to another. Self-imposed hardships are just that and the
company or the applicant has to live with them.
Mr. Ruge inquired about the City hiring an expert to assess
alternative routes where the pipeline could be built. Mr. Ruff
stated that the City hired an appraiser, Mr. Charles Green,
who also had experience in recommending right of ways for
electrical service corridors. Mr. Green proposed two
alternative routes that would connect to their system and
then there were four routes proposed by the MPSC staff in
their first report on the Meridian Township case. Mr. Ruff
referred to the testimony and exhibits of Mr. Green. In the
testimony are the two routes he described including the
maps. Mr. Ruff stated that this is a regional type of issue
and that these areas are outside the city of Lansing.
Primarily what the Board is doing today is addressing the
pipeline coming through the city of Lansing.
Ms. Patrick inquired about the specific authority that gives
the MPSC jurisdiction over need and siting or routing of a
petroleum pipeline. Mr. Ruff stated that he could not answer
the question. Ms. Patrick also inquired about the county
taking a position on the additional routes that were
proposed. Mr. Ruff stated that the MPCS has only
addressed those routes that have been applied for and that
MPSC may not have addressed them fully. Mr. Ruff stated
that the Ingham County Commissioner, Ms. Lisa Dedden,
was an intervener in this case as well. Ms. Keene inquired if
Ms. Dedden was an intervener or her own behalf or on
behalf of the County. Mr. Ruff indicated that it may have
been on Ms. Dedden's own behalf as a County official and
that Ms. Dedden represents District 10, which includes most
of this area of Lansing. Mr. Ruff stated it was his
understanding that the ALJ granted intervener status to Ms.
Dedden specifically.
Mr. Ruge stated that Mr. Green recommended two alternate
routes that both seem to follow power line right of ways and
inquired about any discussion or testimony that indicated it
would be unsafe to have a pipeline in the same proximity as
power lines. Mr. Ruff did not recall there being any
testimony of direct correlation of danger between the power
lines and the hazardous liquid pipeline. Mr. Ruff stated that
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 8
there was some testimony by Mr. Proudfoot in the material
he had given to the Board members because there are
utilities within that corridor or in a corridor, whether it is this
one or the Michigan Electric corridor, that there would
potentially be more sets of the utility eyes watching the
corridor in general. This had its advantages that it was not
just isolated to one utility or another. If there were people
reviewing the right of way or the easement for either the
electric or the pipeline and had seen some electrical
problem, maybe it would make it easier for them to
determine more specifically the endangerment to their
facility. This was part of Mr. Proudfoot's cross examination
in some of the materials given to the Board.
Mr. Ruge is very concerned that the Board not be seen as
suffering from the NIMBY syndrome. He stated that it is very
important for the Board to explore if there are other viable
routes that are actually better than the route being proposed.
It appears that there is definitely a need for the pipeline and
that it seems like there would be more potential for problems
with a lot more tanker trucks on the roads than using the
pipeline (i.e. accidents, spills, etc.). He is convinced that
there is a need for a pipeline especially since the Alma gas
refinery closed. In his mind, the question that arises is
whether the best place for the pipeline is to go through south
Lansing. There seemed to be two alternate routes found by
Mr. Green that would avoid heavily populated areas and be
in a utility corridor where it can be monitored more easily.
Mr. Ruff explained that this is a bigger issue than just
directly for this Board and that it is a regional type issue.
The MPSC in the previous case that included the part that
went through Meridian where there were portions of the
route approved and did not approve the Meridian part of the
route. This part was withdrawn by Wolverine. Mr. Ruff
stated that this needs to be handled with the cooperation of
jurisdictions through a regional planning commission type of
venue because Wolverine has had to request authorization
of building a pipeline in each of the communities it has gone
through. Delta could approve the pipeline and Lansing or
Watertown could deny it or where ever and then you have
this jumbled mess that is not cleanly thought through. Not
only a municipality but the entire region. This is what helps
drive even a NIMBY type of appearance, if that were the
case. Again, one of the keys is that the Board has talked in
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 9
a planning sense of how important it is to have a downtown
that is a surviving downtown and thriving, if possible, with
residents and active businesses. The downtown helps drive
the commerce and livability of this City. In the same way,
the City as a whole has the same influence over the region.
Being the major City of the region, the City believes it is
necessary to also protect it as a resource and reduce risk as
necessary. The City of Lansing takes on a lot of the regional
issues simply because of the price of the land or the ease of
access in and around the community. There would probably
be more proposals in the city for things that may be for lower
income housing units, etc. because the City has the facilities
to support those folks and yet in the same way, the City has
to be cautious on protecting all the resources there are
within the City.
Ms. Patrick stated that she would like to propose an
amendment or a consideration on the main motion for the
Board to recommend that this matter be taken to a regional
body that can address the concerns of all the jurisdictions
and present the best possible alternative route. Ms. Keene
stated that she would accept it that alternately what the
Board would be doing is recommending denial with the
recommendation that a regional body review the pipeline
proposal. Mr. Frederick accepted this as well. Mr. Ruff
stated that he has not contacted the Tri-County Regional
Planning Commission.
Mr. Frederick stated that he wanted to change one item
spoken earlier. He did not believe all the alternatives were
evaluated and that he agreed with Mr. Ruge on the
alternative of delivering fuel by truck is definitely more
hazardous than the pipeline. They did consider that
alternative and he agreed that the pipeline would be a better
solution than delivering the fuel by truck.
Mr. Ruff stated that yes a 3.1 million gallon a day pipeline
equates to a number of trucks of fuel. It does not mean that
the trucks all take the same route. As a finite amount of
product on the vehicle and trucks are not eliminated
because the pipeline is in place. Because this pipeline
facilitates a storage facility which then is distributed by
trucks. The same volume that ends up going by the pipeline
will end getting distributed to retailers by truck. Trucks are
not being totally eliminated. The idea of not having a
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pipeline vs. a truck, if it is taken directly, there is a substitute.
It does not mean all the trucks take the same route, that you
have as much volume and you eliminate them because the
trucks still have to go from the storage facility to retail
distribution. It is basically the same or similar size trucks
with fuel and gets distributed throughout this city and other
communities.
Mr. Smith inquired about rail transport of the fuel and stated
that there is a rail line near the terminal. He questioned if
this would be a potential alternative to shipping and tanker
trucks. Mr. Ruff stated that it had not been discussed in
house by City representatives and that he was not sure if it
had been considered by Wolverine or anyone else. Some of
the testimony with regard to safety, when safety was
presented by the MPSC staff, the staff had some charts
displaying pipelines verses tanker truck accidents verses
barge. He was not sure if this had been addressed by rail.
Mr. Smith was struck in reading the material that many of the
same conditions that seem to apply or lead to the denial of
the rejection of the Meridian route seemed to be applicable
on 1-96. This would go through areas of some degree of
congested people in close proximity and the big concern is
that even though the pipeline may be remote, the potential
contamination of ground water, in particularly the Board of
Water and Light wells which are within a half mile of the
proposed pipeline and then there are others that are also in
close proximity. He stated that when Mr. Pollard made a
comment about how people can live without the pipeline but
they cannot live without fresh air and clean water, this was a
point well taken.
Mr. Smith stated that there was a comment made that
Wolverine would exceed all of the regulatory standards and
that he has no doubt they would. Standards are only as
good as the agencies that promulgate them and only as
good as the agencies that enforce them. It is worth
considering that these agencies that promulgate the
standards are also reflecting a certain political point of view
and does not think it can be ignored. He found it interesting
that we are in a situation where there is encouragement to
eliminate the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE)
standards and not hold the auto manufacturers to more strict
standards in terms of milage, i.e. increasing the needs for
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 11
gasoline at the same time the Governor is indicating as are
the auto makers that we should be trying to convert over to
fuel cell technologies. If this is successful, we would be
putting in a pipeline that becomes redundant because in ten
to twenty years the City has switched over to fuel cell
technologies or is it more of a means by which we are
helping out oil companies to sell their product. If we overturn
the CAFE standards as proposed, arguably to allow the auto
industry to concentrate on the development of the fuel cell,
this is the argument being made, then there will be an
increase in demand for gasoline in the interim period. He
suggested that there may be more here than meets the eye.
If we do go toward the use of alternative fuel sources and if
the auto industry does turn toward fuel cell technologies, he
questions whether this thing is going to actually be needed
over time. He questioned whether the potential risk is worth
taking for something that may become unnecessary, it not,
redundant. He pointed out that building this pipeline, we in
no way are going to encourage the conservation of gasoline
or petroleum products or necessarily by building it to
encourage the development of any alternative or renewable
energy sources. This is where our efforts are better
concentrated. He was not convinced by Wolverine's
previous safety record even though they are making their
efforts but we can still look to the record of what happened
in Jackson. He would not want to see this happening in
south Lansing.
Ms. Keene stated that she would echo the Chair's very
comprehensive comments made earlier. She is concerned
about the potential risk for the City's citizens. She is not
convinced that the area of the 1-96 route is less dense than
the Meridian Township route. She would like to see
alternate routes explored because she is not convinced that
they were explored to the extent that they could have been.
This is contrary to the Master Plan. This is not a utility
corridor and this is not the place. Our comprehensive plan
does not allow for this type of development of the pipeline.
Because of these reasons, she votes to deny the proposal.
Ms. Foster agreed that by supporting this pipeline we would
not support other alternative sources.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 12
Ms. Keene made a motion, seconded by Mr. Frederick to recommend denial of
Act-7-2002, Gasoline Pipeline in 1-96 Right-of-Way, Wolverine Pipe Line Company
with an additional recommendation that this matter be taken before a regional
body which can better consider the interest of various jurisdictions in the region.
On a voice vote, the motion carried.
Ms. Keene made a motion, seconded by Mr. Ruge to arise from the Committee of the
Whole.
On a voice vote, the motion carried.
3b. Committee of the Whole, Mr. Smith, Chair
a. Act-7-2002, Gasoline Pipeline in 1-96 Right-of-Way,
Wolverine Pipe Line Company
Referencing the Committee of the Whole discussion on this matter and concurring with
the Committee of the Whole action, Mr. Smith made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene
to recommend denial of Act-7-2002, Gasoline Pipeline in 1-96 Right-of-Way,
Wolverine Pipe Line Company with an additional recommendation that this matter
be taken before a regional body (i.e. Tri County Planning Regional Planning or a
representative body of affected/potentially affected communities) for route
consideration.
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On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous;
RECOMMENDATION TO DENY w/ COMMENT.
4. Executive Committee - None.
C. REPORT FROM PLANNING MANAGER
Mr. Ruff stated that at the last meeting Mr. Ruge asked about the East
Michigan Ave. church and the parking lot expansion. The Planning Office
is continuing to go through site plan review because of a resubmittal and
is being reviewed at this time.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 13
Mr. Ruff stated that he attended the presentation by the fifth year senior
Landscape Architecture students and that he interviewed as many as he
could. He had them present it to him so he could better understand their
concepts. Many of the graphics were excellent and that many of the
concepts and some of the problems that were recognized were right on.
The concepts proposed will really do what he thought this was designed to
do. Stretch peoples imagination for vision for the City as we enter into
Master Planning.
Mr. Ruff made a note that we are planning on trying to have the North
Lansing Community Association, Thelma Osteen Comfort Station, on the
agenda for the first meeting in May. We are making sure that we have all
the information ready and will notify the NLCA. Anyone interested can do
a follow up with Mr. Rieske from the Planning Office if there are questions
about timing. He stated that this was a special meeting geared toward the
Wolverine Pipeline.
Charlene Decker, resident of 2711 Pleasant Grove Road, stated that
she believed the Alma Refinery was closed for one reason only because
of insufficient profits, not low profits. She also recalled that this was a
headquarters based in Texas but that Wolverine is somehow a part of
that. So there was a good refinery just for insufficient profits and that
bothered her. She did remember reading about that one when some of
this first started. She gave a comment that Mr. Mingg Brewer had said at
the meeting, "we do not have this substantiated yet but the idea of why
this occurred is being heard and they are saying is because they pushed
up the volume and pressure on the gasoline passing through that pipe
and it broke loose because it meant more profit to move this quicker."
This is something that is alleged so far and could come out eventually.
She thought maybe the Alma refinery was an interesting reason for
shutting down a business.
Mr. Smith made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to accept the comments from Ms.
Charlene Decker.
On a voice vote, the motion carried.
D. PENDING ITEMS (future action required)
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
. -a - urner St.,"H" Light Industrial District to"G-1"Business
District(fabled February 11 1998)
b. Z-5-199 ,401-407 E.Grand River,"F"Commercial District to"G-1"Business
District(Tabled June 10, 1998)
C. Z-8-2000, 3901 S. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.,"F"Commercial to"H" Light
Industrial District(Tabled June 14,2000
d. Z-15-2000, 301 W. Lenawee Street, Prolessional Office to"G-1"Business
District(Tabled January 17,2001)
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 14
e. P-1-2001,Tentative Preliminary Plat,Wexford Woods(Tabled June 13, May 9,
2001)
f. PRD-2-2001,"Crystal Woods", Planned Residential Neighborhood (Tabled
August 15,2001))
g. SLU-6-2001,51)-519 E. Grand River Ave., Church in"F-1"Commercial District
(Tabled November 14,2001)
h. SLU-8-2001, 3000 W. Miller Road,Additional Parking for an Existing Church
(Tabled November 14,2001)
i. SLU-1-2002, 1400 Block,W.Jolly Road, Special Land Use Permit-New Church
1 Ordinance Amendments, Front Yard Setbacks and Accessory Structures
2. Urban Development Committee
a. Act-9-2000,201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj. Sign Over ROW (Tabled June 27,
2000)
b. Act-2-2002, Lansing Housing Commission Property, 310 Seymour,Acquisition
for public purposes (Tabled February 26,2002)
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planning Board
a. Act-27-2001, 313 E. Grand River Ave. (Comfort Station), Market for Sale(Tabled
April 2,2002)
8. NEW BUSINESS - None.
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON - None.
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Ms. Keene commented upon the pending closure of two downtown businesses,
Ma-Ah's and Parthenon, in that business vitality is improved through have
downtown residents. Ms. Keene also stated the she was concerned about
possible plans to remove housing from the Oliver Tower site to put in a parking
lot and/or a new city hall, expressing that residential reuse of the site should be
considered further.
Mr. Smith mentioned that the YMCA should work with Boji to combine health
facility efforts. Ms. Keene stated that the loss of the Y downtown will be to
service it provided for families and children living in the downtown area.
Ms. Foster mentioned that when discussing the Comfort Station again, it would
be helpful if the Parks Dept. could provide information on how it handles liability
with other types of facilities on City property (e.g. MSU Crew facility).
Mr. Ruge requested an excused absence for the regular planning Board meeting
scheduled for May 7, 2002 and to notify the members that he would also miss
the May 15, 2002 Zoning & Ordinance Committee meeting. It was moved by Mr.
Smith, supported by Ms. Keene, to excuse Mr. Ruge as requested. The motion
carried. Mr. Ruge has an excused absence for the May 7, 2002 Planning Board
meeting.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 15
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS
Chairman Frederick requested action on the possible illegal signs and pennants
on the wholesale beauty supply building at Clemens and Kalamazoo. Also,
signs are going up around the city on stakes in the right of way that appear
illegal. For an example, see the northeast corner of Jolly and Aurelius.
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 8:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
PB Minutes.042302.wpd
Draft to Clerk May 3,2002
Approved 2002
To Clerk 2002
Minutes of the Special Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, April 23, 2002
1. OPENING SESSION
The meeting was called to order at 7:02 p.m. by Chairman Frederick.
A. Roll call. Present: Frederick, Foster, Keene, Patrick, Smith, Ruge.
B. Staff Attending: Ruff, Rieske.
C. Excused absence: Ms. Cordill.
It was moved by Mr. Smith, supported by Ms. Patrick to approve an excused
absence for Ms. Cordill. On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0).
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
It was moved by Mr. Smith, supported by Ms. Keene to approve the revised
agenda. On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0).
3. COMMUNICATIONS
A. The City Clerk's Office reported to the City Council on April 22, 2002 a
petition in opposition to the pipeline with 374 signatures.
Mr. Ruff stated that the attorneys for Wolverine Pipe Line presented some
addendums to the Environmental Report which they had submitted previously in
one of the six standing notebooks and that the Board members had already
received that addendum within their Environmental Report. He also stated that
for the record Ms. Christine Soneral from Dykema Gossett made sure the packet
was delivered to the Planning Office and that the Board members were aware
that the packet was here and had already been part of the their documents.
4. HEARINGS - None.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE
Seeing no one wishing to address the Board, Mr. Frederick closed the public
comment period.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 2
6. RECESS was not taken by the Board.
7. BUSINESS SESSION
A. There were no minutes to approve at this time.
B. Committee Reports
1. ZONING AND ORDINANCE COMMITTEE, Mr. Ruge, Chair
Next meeting, Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
2. URBAN DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, Ms. Patrick, Chair
Ms. Patrick stated that the UDC meeting for tonight had been
postponed.
Next meeting, Tuesday, May 28, 2002, at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
Ms. Keene made a motion; seconded by Mr. Ruge to dissolve into the Committee of the
Whole.
On a voice vote, the motion carried.
3a. Committee of the Whole, Mr. Smith, Chair
a. Act-7-2002, Gasoline Pipeline in 1-96 Right-of-Way,
Wolverine Pipe Line Company
Mr. Rieske stated that the transcript of the public hearing
minutes in draft form had been distributed to the Board
members.
Mr. Ruff stated that he passed along to the Board in their
packets a basic memorandum to remind the Board to bring
their staff report and then pointed out some information to
make sure the Board was aware with regard to US GAO
report as well as the staff report information in the
depositions. This was the MPSC staff deposition along with
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 3
the MPSC staff reports that were part of the deposition
record as well. Mr. Ruff also stated the main thing from a
staff stand point was, the folks representing Wolverine have
heard from him before, the concerns the City had with
putting at risk, even though it was testified that the risk is
debatable, the environmental concerns such as the well
head protection areas and the construction that takes place
in the right of way. One of the evenings that he was on his
way home down 1-96 and he was going around 1-96 and saw
a gentleman out in the 1-96 right of way cutting down a tree.
There was an older gentleman down near the right of way
edge and Edgewood Blvd. This was on the north side of the
expressway along that southern route. He was cutting down
a tree and he had his old pickup truck out there. People do
get out in the right of way every now and then. Maybe he
had a permit. Mr. Ruff stated that he thought it was quite
unusual. Even though this is a limited access highway, the
City believes there is activity that does take place. You can
see some of the construction activity that takes place even
with rebuilding some of the roadway on the west side in the
township. There are 40,000 plus vehicles that travel by
there every day and there is a risk involved in that. Mr. Ruff
stated that he did not go beyond the most recent report of at
least referring to the Blackman Township incident but if the
Board noted any other, there are web sites out there that
have a lot of information and pipeline incidents and
testimony in front of the U.S. House of Representatives on
different things regarding pipeline incidents such as one out
in Bellingham, WA where a pipeline broke and ruptured and
fumes filled the valley adjoining it and burning up a one and
a half mile length of corridor of that valley and killing three
young people. As more pipelines are built, according to the
GAO report, the pipeline leaks have not necessarily
dissipated in numbers, even though technology get better.
There are more pipelines out there as you go over the
course of time and there is a corresponding risk that goes
with it. The City is concerned about risk and being the
central city of the area. As the City goes, the area goes
from both an economic and environmental stand point
because the City helps supply water to the entire region.
The Board has more recently looked at wellhead protection
through the Board of Water and Light and the Wellhead
Protection Program. It was recommended as an item for
continued pursuit back when it came to the Board. It is also
not recognized in the Master Plan as a utility corridor. 1-96 is
recognized as a highway but not promoted in the Master
Plan documents for utilities. While the State of Michigan
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has opened up the opportunity to have utilities in the
corridor, Mr. Ruff felt a need of prudence in how it is
handled. Having one type of use in a corridor may be
different than another type of use just as similarly as you
have different uses within varying zoning districts where
some are more innocuous than others or less potentially
problematic to adjoining properties, environmentally, etc.
You do look at the range of uses that come through and
when you make zoning decisions you also look at the range
of uses even though there might a particular proposal. The
City does not control or have ownership of Wolverine
Pipeline. The company could change hands, management
or practice. The City would not be controlling that at that
point. This is a long term facility and the City has to look at
the long term picture here. If it is a pipeline that should be
able to be constructed and it is in a good manner that would
last one hundred years or more, it is very difficult for the City
to understand the promise of management of a facility of
that length of time as well. Yes, there are some very
positive points of having a new pipe over an old pipe but the
pipe's placement is very important. Mr. Ruff stated that he
felt this is a regional question and a regional type of project
and would have approached the Tri-County Regional
Planning Commission. This could be an avenue of pursuit
because right now they are going through a regional growth
study and could even incorporate this into that regional
growth study as far as green ways and utility corridors for
those types of things that would befit proper Master Planning
principles. The Planning Office feels this is inconsistent
with the surrounding area and Master Plans. It is also
inconsistent to place the risk in the largest community in the
tri-county area and that there could be a significant case for
environmental injustice as well based upon the previous
application. The comparison of the two areas as is seen in
the summary by the Law Office, there is a good case for
that. He stated that the Planning Office recommended that
the application to run the pipeline through the City on the I-
96 corridor be denied.
Mr. Ruge inquired about what recourse Wolverine had if the
application is denied and whether Wolverine could apply to
City Council or sue the City. Mr. Ruff stated that the
recommendation will go to City Council. It was applied to
the Law Office and the City Council recommended that the
Planning Board do an Act 285 review to gather information
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and make a recommendation. Mr. Ruff anticipates having a
letter to the Mayor tomorrow of the determination of
whatever decision was rendered this evening. Then it would
be on the City Council agenda Monday night for receipt and
taken up as a business item. Mr. Ruff stated that he was not
sure of the date City Council would take it up and that the
City Council has a budget hearing the first of May. The City
Council will be selecting a new Council person to fill Mr.
Adado's vacated seat and some other significant items on
their agenda. Mr. Ruff anticipates before the end of May,
City Council would have made a recommendation. He
stated that the submitted material would go to the Michigan
Public Service Commission and that with the MPSC the
material could become part of their records. As support for
or lack of support with the applicant's application with the
MPSC, potentially this could get to the point, depending
upon the situation, where it could easily end up in court but
that would be up to the Mayor's Office, Law Office and City
Council.
Mr. Frederick stated that he spent a lot of time reviewing all
the options and considering everything given to the Board.
At the public hearing, he asked Mr. Cole if his company had
considered rather than building the 22 mile long pipeline to
meet with the terminal that the company considered moving.
Mr. Cole indicated that the terminal was not owned by
Wolverine Pipe Line. It was owned by one of the shippers
and that Mr. Cole doubted Marathon National Petroleum
would consider moving the terminal. Mr. Frederick was not
particularly surprised or distressed with Mr. Cole's response
because he is in the pipeline business and not in the
terminal building business. In all of the testimony, reports,
etc. that Mr. Frederick had read, the only thing that he saw
the MPSC to consider was the Meridian Township route was
not suitable and that the Township recommended other
routes and eventually settled on the 1-96 route. Mr.
Frederick stated that not all the alternatives to this pipeline
that might be safer in the long run were considered. He had
read a lot of safety reasons that the MPSC had cited as a
hazzard for the Meridian Township route but that they
seemed to apply to the 1-96 route as well. He could not see
a whole lot of difference and that there are a lot of people
and a lot of development along both routes. If the Meridian
Township route is not justifiable then he believed the 1-96
route is not justifiable either. One of the things MPSC cited
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in particular was the spill risk to the Saginaw esker if a spill
occurred in the Meridian Township route. He couldn't
understand why this didn't apply to the Mason esker that the
pipeline would cross if it went down the 1-96 route. He did
not see where the geology could be that much different that
there would a risk to the Saginaw esker and not to the
Mason esker. Although there are a number of reasons why
the risk to the Mason esker would be minimal and he felt the
same reason could be used with Meridan Township as well.
The applicant, Mr. Cole, also stated that underground
storage tanks from service stations in Lansing are leaking
and that these tanks have not threatened the water supply in
Lansing. Mr. Frederick considered these leaks a risk and
since he has been on the commission he has attempted to
at least mitigate, if not, get them cleaned up. The most
recent case being a used car dealership that was approved
at Jolly Road and Pennsylvania Avenue. The City was not
able to get the car dealership to do any clean up but the
dealership did do a more extensive cap over the top to keep
ground water from percolating down. He also believed a
spill would endanger many residents along the 1-96 corridor
because of the number of above ground drains that cross
the freeway. One of the developments that the Board had
considered two meetings ago, had a drain that limited the
amount of development that could take place on the
property. That particular drain would be crossed by the
pipeline and it would cross from the development across the
1-96 corridor and drain on the other side. He was not sure
which direction the drain would flow but either it would flow
north into the Sycamore Creek and drain into the businesses
and residences there or drain the other way into the
development that the Board considered. The MPSC cited
that the development of the existing Meridian Township line
right of way, business and residential, specifically Meridian
Mall, is a reason to select a different route. While this may
sound logical, it appears to him that the Wolverine Pipe Line
Company purchased an existing right of way from a
company that didn't preserve its right of way and limit
development with them in the distance that they seem to
think the 1-96 route provides. To him, that is a self-imposed
hardship and perhaps Wolverine Pipe Line should have
taken that into consideration, although Wolverine did
propose initially to develop the Meridian Township route. It
was the MPSC that recommended the other alternate
routes. From His experience sitting with the Planning Board
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and Board of Zoning and Appeals, self-imposed hardships
are not a justification to move a development from one place
to another. Self-imposed hardships are just that and the
company or the applicant has to live with them.
Mr. Ruge inquired about the City hiring an expert to assess
alternative routes where the pipeline could be built. Mr. Ruff
stated that the City hired an appraiser, Mr. Charles Green,
who also had experience in recommending right of ways for
electrical service corridors. Mr. Green proposed two
alternative routes that would connect to their system and
then there were four routes proposed by the MPSC staff in
their first report on the Meridian Township case. Mr. Ruff
referred to the testimony and exhibits of Mr. Green. In the
testimony are the two routes he described including the
maps. Mr. Ruff stated that this is a regional type of issue
and that these areas are outside the city of Lansing.
Primarily what the Board is doing today is addressing the
pipeline coming through the city of Lansing.
Ms. Patrick inquired about the specific authority that gives
the MPSC jurisdiction over need and siting or routing of a
petroleum pipeline. Mr. Ruff stated that he could not answer
the question. Ms. Patrick also inquired about the county
taking a position on the additional routes that were
proposed. Mr. Ruff stated that the MPCS has only
addressed those routes that have been applied for and that
MPSC may not have addressed them fully. Mr. Ruff stated
that the Ingham County Commissioner, Ms. Lisa Dedden,
was an intervener in this case as well. Ms. Keene inquired if
Ms. Dedden was an intervener or her own behalf or on
behalf of the County. Mr. Ruff indicated that it may have
been on Ms. Dedden's own behalf as a County official and
that Ms. Dedden represents District 10, which includes most
of this area of Lansing. Mr. Ruff stated it was his
understanding that the AU granted intervener status to Ms.
Dedden specifically.
Mr. Ruge stated that Mr. Green recommended two alternate
routes that both seem to follow power line right of ways and
inquired about any discussion or testimony that indicated it
would be unsafe to have a pipeline in the same proximity as
power lines. Mr. Ruff did not recall there being any
testimony of direct correlation of danger between the power
lines and the hazardous liquid pipeline. Mr. Ruff stated that
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there was some testimony by Mr. Proudfoot in the material
he had given to the Board members because there are
utilities within that corridor or in a corridor, whether it is this
one or the Michigan Electric corridor, that there would
potentially be more sets of the utility eyes watching the
corridor in general. This had its advantages that it was not
just isolated to one utility or another. If there were people
reviewing the right of way or the easement for either the
electric or the pipeline and had seen some electrical
problem, maybe it would make it easier for them to
determine more specifically the endangerment to their
facility. This was part of Mr. Proudfoot's cross examination
in some of the materials given to the Board.
Mr. Ruge is very concerned that the Board not be seen as
suffering from the NIMBY syndrome. He stated that it is very
important for the Board to explore if there are other viable
routes that are actually better than the route being proposed.
It appears that there is definitely a need for the pipeline and
that it seems like there would be more potential for problems
with a lot more tanker trucks on the roads than using the
pipeline (i.e. accidents, spills, etc.). He is convinced that
there is a need for a pipeline especially since the Alma gas
refinery closed. In his mind, the question that arises is
whether the best place for the pipeline is to go through south
Lansing. There seemed to be two alternate routes found by
Mr. Green that would avoid heavily populated areas and be
in a utility corridor where it can be monitored more easily.
Mr. Ruff explained that this is a bigger issue than just
directly for this Board and that it is a regional type issue.
The MPSC in the previous case that included the part that
went through Meridian where there were portions of the
route approved and did not approve the Meridian part of the
route. This part was withdrawn by Wolverine. Mr. Ruff
stated that this needs to be handled with the cooperation of
jurisdictions through a regional planning commission type of
venue because Wolverine has had to request authorization
of building a pipeline in each of the communities it has gone
through. Delta could approve the pipeline and Lansing or
Watertown could deny it or where ever and then you have
this jumbled mess that is not cleanly thought through. Not
only a municipality but the entire region. This is what helps
drive even a NIMBY type of appearance, if that were the
case. Again, one of the keys is that the Board has talked in
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 9
a planning sense of how important it is to have a downtown
that is a surviving downtown and thriving, if possible, with
residents and active businesses. The downtown helps drive
the commerce and livability of this City. In the same way,
the City as a whole has the same influence over the region.
Being the major City of the region, the City believes it is
necessary to also protect it as a resource and reduce risk as
necessary. The City of Lansing takes on a lot of the regional
issues simply because of the price of the land or the ease of
access in and around the community. There would probably
be more proposals in the city for things that may be for lower
income housing units, etc. because the City has the facilities
to support those folks and yet in the same way, the City has
to be cautious on protecting all the resources there are
within the City.
Ms. Patrick stated that she would like to propose an
amendment or a consideration on the main motion for the
Board to recommend that this matter be taken to a regional
body that can address the concerns of all the jurisdictions
and present the best possible alternative route. Ms. Keene
stated that she would accept it that alternately what the
Board would be doing is recommending denial with the
recommendation that a regional body review the pipeline
proposal. Mr. Frederick accepted this as well. Mr. Ruff
stated that he has not contacted the Tri-County Regional
Planning Commission.
Mr. Frederick stated that he wanted to change one item
spoken earlier. He did not believe all the alternatives were
evaluated and that he agreed with Mr. Ruge on the
alternative of delivering fuel by truck is definitely more
hazardous than the pipeline. They did consider that
alternative and he agreed that the pipeline would be a better
solution than delivering the fuel by truck.
Mr. Ruff stated that yes a 3.1 million gallon a day pipeline
equates to a number of trucks of fuel. It does not mean that
the trucks all take the same route. As a finite amount of
product on the vehicle and trucks are not eliminated
because the pipeline is in place. Because this pipeline
facilitates a storage facility which then is distributed by
trucks. The same volume that ends up going by the pipeline
will end getting distributed to retailers by truck. Trucks are
not being totally eliminated. The idea of not having a
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pipeline vs. a truck, if it is taken directly, there is a substitute.
It does not mean all the trucks take the same route, that you
have as much volume and you eliminate them because the
trucks still have to go from the storage facility to retail
distribution. It is basically the same or similar size trucks
with fuel and gets distributed throughout this city and other
communities.
Mr. Smith inquired about rail transport of the fuel and stated
that there is a rail line near the terminal. He questioned if
this would be a potential alternative to shipping and tanker
trucks. Mr. Ruff stated that it had not been discussed in
house by City representatives and that he was not sure if it
had been considered by Wolverine or anyone else. Some of
the testimony with regard to safety, when safety was
presented by the MPSC staff, the staff had some charts
displaying pipelines verses tanker truck accidents verses
barge. He was not sure if this had been addressed by rail.
Mr. Smith was struck in reading the material that many of the
same conditions that seem to apply or lead to the denial of
the rejection of the Meridian route seemed to be applicable
on 1-96. This would go through areas of some degree of
congested people in close proximity and the big concern is
that even though the pipeline may be remote, the potential
contamination of ground water, in particularly the Board of
Water and Light wells which are within a half mile of the
proposed pipeline and then there are others that are also in
close proximity. He stated that when Mr. Pollard made a
comment about how people can live without the pipeline but
they cannot live without fresh air and clean water, this was a
point well taken.
Mr. Smith stated that there was a comment made that
Wolverine would exceed all of the regulatory standards and
that he has no doubt they would. Standards are only as
good as the agencies that promulgate them and only as
good as the agencies that enforce them. It is worth
considering that these agencies that promulgate the
standards are also reflecting a certain political point of view
and does not think it can be ignored. He found it interesting
that we are in a situation where there is encouragement to
eliminate the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE)
standards and not hold the auto manufacturers to more strict
standards in terms of milage, i.e. increasing the needs for
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gasoline at the same time the Governor is indicating as are
the auto makers that we should be trying to convert over to
fuel cell technologies. If this is successful, we would be
putting in a pipeline that becomes redundant because in ten
to twenty years the City has switched over to fuel cell
technologies or is it more of a means by which we are
helping out oil companies to sell their product. If we overturn
the CAFE standards as proposed, arguably to allow the auto
industry to concentrate on the development of the fuel cell,
this is the argument being made, then there will be an
increase in demand for gasoline in the interim period. He
suggested that there may be more here than meets the eye.
If we do go toward the use of alternative fuel sources and if
the auto industry does turn toward fuel cell technologies, he
questions whether this thing is going to actually be needed
over time. He questioned whether the potential risk is worth
taking for something that may become unnecessary, it not,
redundant. He pointed out that building this pipeline, we in
no way are going to encourage the conservation of gasoline
or petroleum products or necessarily by building it to
encourage the development of any alternative or renewable
energy sources. This is where our efforts are better
concentrated. He was not convinced by Wolverine's
previous safety record even though they are making their
efforts but we can still look to the record of what happened
in Jackson. He would not want to see this happening in
south Lansing.
Ms. Keene stated that she would echo the Chair's very
comprehensive comments made earlier. She is concerned
about the potential risk for the City's citizens. She is not
convinced that the area of the 1-96 route is less dense than
the Meridian Township route. She would like to see
alternate routes explored because she is not convinced that
they were explored to the extent that they could have been.
This is contrary to the Master Plan. This is not a utility
corridor and this is not the place. Our comprehensive plan
does not allow for this type of development of the pipeline.
Because of these reasons, she votes to deny the proposal.
Ms. Foster agreed that by supporting this pipeline we would
not support other alternative sources.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 12
Ms. Keene made a motion, seconded by Mr. Frederick to recommend denial of
Act-7-2002, Gasoline Pipeline in 1-96 Right-of-Way, Wolverine Pipe Line Company
with an additional recommendation that this matter be taken before a regional
body which can better consider the interest of various jurisdictions in the region.
On a voice vote, the motion carried.
Ms. Keene made a motion, seconded by Mr. Ruge to arise from the Committee of the
Whole.
On a voice vote, the motion carried.
3b. Committee of the Whole, Mr. Smith, Chair
a. Act-7-2002, Gasoline Pipeline in 1-96 Right-of-Way,
Wolverine Pipe Line Company
Referencing the Committee of the Whole discussion on this matter and concurring with
the Committee of the Whole action, Mr. Smith made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene
to recommend denial of Act-7-2002, Gasoline Pipeline in 1-96 Right-of-Way,
Wolverine Pipe Line Company with an additional recommendation that this matter
be taken before a regional body (i.e. Tri County Planning Regional Planning or a
representative body of affected/potentially affected communities) for route
consideration.
Frederick. . . Ave Foster. • Ave
Patrick . .Ave Smith . Ave
Keene. . .Ave Ruge .Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous;
RECOMMENDATION TO DENY w/ COMMENT.
4. Executive Committee - None.
C. REPORT FROM PLANNING MANAGER
Mr. Ruff stated that at the last meeting Mr. Ruge asked about the East
Michigan Ave. church and the parking lot expansion. The Planning Office
is continuing to go through site plan review because of a resubmittal and
is being reviewed at this time.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 13
Mr. Ruff stated that he attended the presentation by the fifth year senior
Landscape Architecture students and that he interviewed as many as he
could. He had them present it to him so he could better understand their
concepts. Many of the graphics were excellent and that many of the
concepts and some of the problems that were recognized were right on.
The concepts proposed will really do what he thought this was designed to
do. Stretch peoples imagination for vision for the City as we enter into
Master Planning.
Mr. Ruff made a note that we are planning on trying to have the North
Lansing Community Association, Thelma Osteen Comfort Station, on the
agenda for the first meeting in May. We are making sure that we have all
the information ready and will notify the NLCA. Anyone interested can do
a follow up with Mr. Rieske from the Planning Office if there are questions
about timing. He stated that this was a special meeting geared toward the
Wolverine Pipeline.
Charlene Decker, resident of 2711 Pleasant Grove Road, stated that
she believed the Alma Refinery was closed for one reason only because
of insufficient profits, not low profits. She also recalled that this was a
headquarters based in Texas but that Wolverine is somehow a part of
that. So there was a good refinery just for insufficient profits and that
bothered her. She did remember reading about that one when some of
this first started. She gave a comment that Mr. Mingg Brewer had said at
the meeting, "we do not have this substantiated yet but the idea of why
this occurred is being heard and they are saying is because they pushed
up the volume and pressure on the gasoline passing through that pipe
and it broke loose because it meant more profit to move this quicker."
This is something that is alleged so far and could come out eventually.
She thought maybe the Alma refinery was an interesting reason for
shutting down a business.
Mr. Smith made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to accept the comments from Ms.
Charlene Decker.
On a voice vote, the motion carried.
D. PENDING ITEMS (future action required)
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a. _ _ urner St.,"H" Light Industrial District to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled February 11 1998)
b. Z-5-199 ,401-407 E. Grand River,"F"Commercial District to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled June 10, 1998)
C. Z-8-2000' 3901 S. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.,"F"Commercial to"H" Light
Industrial District(Tabled June 14, 2000)
d. Z-15-2000, 301 W. Lenawee Street, Professional Office to"G-1"Business
District(Tabled January 17,2001)
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 14
e. P-1-2001,Tentative Preliminary Plat,Wexford Woods (Tabled June 13, May 9,
2001)
f. PRD-2-2001,"Crystal Woods", Planned Residential Neighborhood (Tabled
August 15,2001
g. SLU-6-2001,51)-519 E. Grand River Ave., Church in"F-V Commercial District
Tabled November 14,2001)
h. LU-8-2001,3000 W. Miller Road,Additional Parking for an Existing Church
(Tabled November 14,2001)
i. SLU-1-2002, 1400 Block,W.Jolly Road, Special Land Use Permit- New Church
J. Ordinance Amendments, Front Yard Setbacks and Accessory Structures
2. Urban Development Committee
a. Act-9-2000,201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj. Sign Over ROW (Tabled June 27,
2000)
b. Act-2-2002, Lansing Housing Commission Property, 310 Seymour,Acquisition
for public purposes(Tabled February 26,2002)
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planning Board
a. Act-27-2001,313 E. Grand River Ave. (Comfort Station), Market for Sale(Tabled
April 2,2002)
8. NEW BUSINESS - None.
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON - None.
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Ms. Keene commented upon the pending closure of two downtown businesses,
Ma-Ah's and Parthenon, in that business vitality is improved through have
downtown residents. Ms. Keene also stated the she was concerned about
possible plans to remove housing from the Oliver Tower site to put in a parking
lot and/or a new city hall, expressing that residential reuse of the site should be
considered further.
Mr. Smith mentioned that the YMCA should work with Boji to combine health
facility efforts. Ms. Keene stated that the loss of the Y downtown will be to
service it provided for families and children living in the downtown area.
Ms. Foster mentioned that when discussing the Comfort Station again, it would
be helpful if the Parks Dept. could provide information on how it handles liability
with other types of facilities on City property (e.g. MSU Crew facility).
Mr. Ruge requested an excused absence for the regular planning Board meeting
scheduled for May 7, 2002 and to notify the members that he would also miss
the May 15, 2002 Zoning & Ordinance Committee meeting. It was moved by Mr.
Smith, supported by Ms. Keene, to excuse Mr. Ruge as requested. The motion
carried. Mr. Ruge has an excused absence for the May 7, 2002 Planning Board
meeting.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 23, 2002, Page 15
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS
Chairman Frederick requested action on the possible illegal signs and pennants
on the wholesale beauty supply building at Clemens and Kalamazoo. Also,
signs are going up around the city on stakes in the right of way that appear
illegal. For an example, see the northeast corner of Jolly and Aurelius.
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 8:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
PB Minutes.042302.wpd
Approved as written 5-21-02 Draft to Clerk April 26,2002
Approved May 21,2002
To Clerk May 23,2002
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, April 16, 2002
1. OPENING SESSION
The meeting was called to order at 7:06 p.m. by Chairman Frederick.
A. Roll call. Present: Frederick, Foster, Keene, Patrick, Smith, Ruge.
B. Staff Attending: Ruff, Rieske, Hodges.
C. Excused absence: Ms. Cordill.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
It was moved by Mr. Smith, supported by Ms. Keene to approve the revised
agenda. On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (5-0).
3. COMMUNICATIONS
A. Email from Alisande Henry stating Mayor Hollister would not be able to
attend the Planning Board meeting.
B. Letter from Gilbert and Rebecca Ledesma opposing the Wolverine
Pipeline.
C. Letter from Kathy "K.P." Pelleran opposing the Wolverine Pipeline.
D. Email from Raymond Hill regarding a Wolverine Pipe Line spill in June of
2000.
Mr. Frederick stated for the record that Mr. Ruge arrived at 7:10 p.m. after role
was taken and that he will be present for the duration of the meeting.
Ms. Patrick mentioned an informal communication from the Old Everett
Neighborhood Organization that takes the position of opposition for the
Wolverine Pipeline and that the organization could not send a representative
because of meeting conflicts.
4. HEARINGS
A. Act-7-2002, Gasoline Pipeline in 1-96 Right-of-Way, Wolverine Pipe
Line Company
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 16, 2002, Page 2
Wolverine Pipe Line Co. is requesting to locate a gasoline pipe line in the
1-96 right of way in the City of Lansing.
The purpose of the pipeline is for the transportation of gasoline products.
Since such products are highly toxic and flammable, a break in the
pipeline could result in the release of a large volume of toxic liquid.
Although a significant leak may be relatively remote, such situations do
occur. The potential consequences of a pipeline break could be of such
magnitude that their placement in proximity to developed lands and other
high consequence areas would be inconsistent with sound planning
practices and the policies advanced in the City's comprehensive plans.
Correspondingly, location considerations for such a request involve the
nature and function of neighboring land uses, the potential consequences
of a pipeline on these uses, and the available alternatives to this location.
The neighboring land uses along the route are largely developed,
consisting of residential developments of varying density, as well as
commercial and office uses. Much of the land that remains undeveloped
reflects areas of environmental significance and sensitive areas that are
critical to the regions supply of drinking water. The proposed route goes
through the 'Mason Esker', the longest underground glacial river bed in
Michigan. This esker is the principle source drinking water for the region
and contaminants run very quickly through such deposits. Drinking water
concerns also include: the route cutting across established well head
protection zones, being in proximity to the Board of Water and Light's
Wise Road Conditioning Plant, including a 5 million gallon reservoir of
drinking water which represents one third of the water supply capacity for
the region; 10 of BWL production wells are within a quarter-mile of the
pipeline route and another 13 within the well head protection area that
could be impacted by the route.
Continuation of the existing development pattern is supported by the
City's Comprehensive Plans. The plans do not recognize or recommend
the 1-96 r/w as a utility corridor. Much of the area surrounding the Lansing
urbanized area remains undeveloped, offering ample opportunities for
locating the pipeline through undeveloped areas. Two routes were
identified by a real estate appraiser, Charles Green. Four alternates were
considered acceptable by the Public Service Commission.
Until all reasonable alternatives have been exhausted the public's safety
and welfare can be protected to the City's satisfaction, the location
proposed for the pipeline is considered to be incompatible with the
existing land use pattern, the future pattern being advance in the
Comprehensive Plans, and sound planning practices in general.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 16, 2002, Page 3
With respect to character, the proposed route is in close proximity to a
range of developments and other high consequence areas. It also is a
route reflecting areas of high minority concentrations. The
disproportionate placement of minorities at risk to a potential
environmental hazard threat raises concerns of environment justice.
Given the composition of the adjoining land uses and population, the
request is considered to be inconsistent with the general character of the
neighboring area.
With respect to the 'extent' of the proposal, the size and design of the
pipeline would appear consistent with its intended use and a facility of
lessor size would not result in a disproportionate reduction in it's potential
impacts.
Based on the findings detailed in sections above, the proposal is
considered inconsistent with the location and character of the surrounding
area, the land use pattern being advanced in the comprehensive plans,
and sound planning practices. It is, therefore, suggested that the
Planning Board recommend that the request be denied.
John Hodges gave a brief overview.
Mr. Ruff gave a brief clarification regarding the area of the pipeline that
the Board is reviewing and the information provided by Wolverine
Pipeline.
Leslie Cole, Vice President and General Manager Wolverine Pipe
Line, Portage, Michigan. As Mr. Ruff described, they have made
application with the Michigan Public Service Commission to own, operate
and maintain a pipeline. A portion of that pipeline route that they have
asked for a permit does cross through the City of Lansing. It is a very
long pipeline. Some of the shortest distances that cross through any
municipality is through the City of Lansing. They have asked that the
route be along interstate 96 as it goes around the South and West sides
of Lansing. In the MPSC Staff's testimony, as you will find evidence in the
records. They say that there is no such thing as a perfect pipeline route,
but that this particular route is as good as it gets. The reason that it is as
good as it gets because it is a freeway corridor. It is a transportation
corridor. A pipeline is a transportation facility. The corridor is also
isolated and fenced. It has minimal easements in it and contractors that
do work within the corridor must contact MDOT for permission to do work
in that right of way. Because it is a isolated, fenced and controlled
corridor and because contractors must have MDOT's permission, it
reduces the likelihood of third party damage, which is the leading cost of
pipeline failures. The route utilizes existing highway corridors for almost
the entire length. This in turn minimizes impacts to residences and
businesses. Environmental damage will be minimized because the areas
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along the 1-96 right of way have previously been disturbed in order to
accommodate the highway itself. Using the highway right of way
eliminates the need to take land away from other uses. The proposed
pipeline will be constructed with state of the art technology. Industry
experts as well as the Office of Pipeline Safety have determined that the
pipeline will be constructed and operated in a safe manner. The presence
of a pipeline will not negatively inhibit development, particularly because
the pipeline will be located in a highway right of way where development
will not be occurring. Also, Meridian Township and East Lansing are a
perfect example of how a community can flourish even with the presence
of a pipeline. Experts, including the City of Lansing's, Mr. Hansel, have
concluded that in the unlikely event of a pipeline incident, the City's water
supply would not be affected. He would appreciate the Board's
consideration in recommending that the City of Lansing grant its consent
to this project and he would like to answer any questions.
Mr. Ruge asked why they withdrew their application to have the pipeline
follow its original route?
Mr. Cole said the original route of the pipeline, which is 65 years old, has
suffered from what they would consider to be encroachments. That is
basically development within a very close proximity to the pipeline.
Because of the encroachments, which were schools, apartment buildings,
residential property, business property, a post office, the Meridian Mall.
Because of the encroachment of areas like this, the Michigan Public
Service Commission could not recommend that old route as a good
location for a new route. Looking at these encroachments and the
difficulty that would exist in constructing the new pipeline within that highly
congested route and looking at the fact that there is not a highly
congested area along 1-96 as it goes south and west of Lansing.
Wolverine Pipeline Company decided that it would be better to withdraw
the portion of their application that was north of 1-96 all the way up to St.
Johns Township and reapply for a permit utilizing the 1-96 corridor.
Mr. Ruge said that there were more residences and businesses by the
pipeline there than if it went through on 1-96.
Mr. Cole said that there is an order of magnitude greater number of
residential homes, apartment complexes and business development along
that existing corridor than there will be along the 1-96 corridor.
Mr. Ruge asked what it meant when he said in order of magnitude?
Mr. Cole said what it means is, there were locations where the pipeline
would have run down the middle of a residential street. There were three
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locations where the pipeline would run in between the buildings of
apartment complexes. There were two schools where the pipeline would
have crossed the school grounds and in one of those, the current pipeline
crosses underneath the schools playground equipment. It runs around
the perimeter drive of the Meridian Mall. It runs through the parking lot of
the Meridian Post Office. They would actually need pictures of that
current route to get a good understanding of what he is talking about.
With regard to distances from residential property to the pipeline, the
distances that they will find along the 1-96 proposed route are much
greater than the majority of the distances that they would have found
along the route as it went through Okemos, Meridian and East Lansing.
Mr. Ruge asked if it was true that despite the fact that the pipeline was
there they decided to build their businesses and houses next to it.
Mr. Cole said that is true which is another good reason for using 1-96.
Because business development, residential development, any type of
development other than transportation infrastructure will not be allowed in
that corridor.
Ms. Keene asked who will benefit as a result of the placement of the
pipeline through the City of Lansing?
Mr. Cole said in this particular area the City of Lansing is the biggest
beneficiary, but also the central Michigan area is another big beneficiary
of this pipeline system. Towns like Mt. Pleasant, Bay City, Midland,
Saginaw and all of the 29 counties that make up the central Michigan area
will be beneficiaries of the pipeline.
Ms. Keene said when you say the City of Lansing, you are including
Meridian Township and all the local here?
Mr. Cole said yes, the distribution terminal that currently services the
greater Lansing area, which is several counties in radius around that
distribution terminal is located off the Grand River Avenue to the north and
west side of the City of Lansing, west of the City's airport. That is where
this current pipeline will end and will connect to an existing pipeline that
then carries product to a distribution terminal in Bay City. The two
distribution terminals are what will serve central Michigan. So, they can
say that Meridian Township is benefitted, East Lansing is benefitted,
Okemos is benefitted, Delta Township is benefitted, but the City of
Lansing has the largest number of residences in this area in one
municipal unit so he would say that the City of Lansing is as big a
beneficiary of anyone in the area of Lansing proper.
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Ms. Keene said he answered her question, but she wanted to clarify that
while Lansing will benefit, it is also in her view carrying a burden for the
complete mid Michigan area.
Mr. Cole said he would not agree that it would be carrying the burden.
When they look at the number of miles that the pipeline traverses through
communities in this area, the fewest number of miles in any municipality
with the exception of probably Watertown Township is Lansing itself.
Ms. Keene asked if he is saying that Meridian Township and Okemos
areas have more pipeline going through them than what will run through
the City of Lansing?
Mr. Cole said no, he is saying that the townships that border interstate 96
as it goes south and west of Lansing are the townships that will be
crossed by the pipeline. They are the townships that are crossed by the
Interstate highway and if they measure the distance that the pipeline or
the highway traverses through those townships, they will find that the
distance is longer than the distance that passes through Lansing.
Ms. Keene said what about those townships east of Lansing, such as
Meridan?
Mr. Cole said there are townships west that also benefit and it is not
passing through the townships west or east. It goes around the south and
west edge of Lansing. It can benefit people in Charlotte, but it does not
cross through Charlotte.
Ms. Keene said her concern is that the citizens of Lansing appear to be
feeling that the City of Lansing is being asked to assume the burden of
having this pipeline, when all these other locations, such as Meridian
Township are going to have only the benefit, while they carry the burden.
That is a concern that she has.
Mr. Cole said in his view she does not have to be concerned about that
because it is not a burden. It crosses through the City of Lansing, while in
the corridor of an Interstate highway so it does not impact anybody's
private property or any property that the City of Lansing currently zones
for other uses.
Ms. Keene said what she is talking about the burden, she is thinking about
things that the anxiety, for example, that the residents will suffer because
they are more closely exposed to the possibility of something happening
like what occurred down in Blackman Township. That is what she is
talking about. The thing that Meridian Township will avoid.
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Mr. Cole said they all mentioned Mr. Hill who lives in Blackman Township.
Also contained in that record is testimony from the Blackman Township
Supervisor who testified for the MPSC that Wolverine Pipeline Company
is a very good corporate citizen and it fully cooperates with all government
agencies, all interested parties in its response to incidents. While they
don't plan to have incidents, they stay ready to respond to incidents so
that people who do live near the pipeline don't have to be burdened with
worry of what might happen because they are fully capable of working any
response activity to the point that no one living near the pipeline is in
danger because of any incident that the pipeline could possibly have. If
they would also remember the fact that this is a brand new pipeline and so
the likelihood it having an incident is very remote when they compare it to
a pipeline that was built in 1953 like the one through Blackman Township.
Also understand the current regulatory structure in regard to pipelines they
would know that regulations were just passed that requires pipeline
companies to have an integrity management program. This program will
severely lessen the likelihood of any incident with regard to a brand new
constructed pipeline built in the year 2002.
Ms. Keene asked why they withdrew the proposal in Meridian Township.
How did that come about?
Mr. Cole said in the original permit application they asked for a route from
Jackson, Blackman Township, to Stockridge Township and from
Stockridge Township to St. Johns Township. The route from Jackson to
Stockbridge was a new route, one where they did not currently have a
pipeline. The route from Stockbridge to St. Johns was following the
existing pipeline. They had just recently purchased that pipeline. The
easements associated with the ownership of the pipeline is one of the
most valuable assets associated with owning the pipeline. Since they had
just purchased it, they elected to attempt to use that newly acquired asset
by laying a brand new pipeline next to the old pipeline to replace the old
pipeline. The administrative law judge that was hearing that particular
case recommended to the Michigan Public Service Commission that they
deny the permit. Prior to the Michigan Public Service Commission
actually hearing the case, they withdrew the portion that was a concern to
the administrative law judge and that was the portion that existed between
1-96 and I-69. As a result of withdrawing that piece they were granted a
permit for the piece from Blackman Township, the pipeline has been
constructed, and they were granted the permit for the piece from
Stockbridge to 1-96. That particular part of the line has not been
constructed because they also agreed with the MPSC Staff that they
would not construct it until they had a completed route to the Marathon
Ashland Petroleum Terminal on the west side of Lansing. So, what they
have today is a 20 mile new pipeline with some refurbished tanks at
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Stockbridge and a new pump station in Stockbridge that is continuing to
pump gasoline down a 65 year old pipeline.
Ms. Foster said continuing with that question, why where they going to
reject that permit.
Mr. Cole said because of the highly congested nature of Okemos,
Meridian and East Lansing. The route through that area is much more
highly congested than anything along 1-96. Plus going through that highly
congested area they would have done so by easement, which means that
they would not have the protection afforded by being in a corridor like 1-96
where excavation work is limited.
Mr. Ruge asked if they were to refurbish the old 65 year old pipeline, the
same size pipe as it is, could they continue to use their current easement?
Mr. Cole said they could continue to use their current pipeline as it is. It's
current operating pressure is 800 psi and they can not refurbish it to the
point where they can raise the operating pressure to a level necessary to
meet the demands of central Michigan because the permit that enabled
that pipeline to be built does not allow it to be modified in that manner.
Mr. Ruge said they can pump the same amount of gas through that line,
but they could not pump any more.
Mr. Cole said approximately half of what they are trying to replace.
Mr. Ruge said should they approve their request, would they be willing to
hire a private consultant along with the City to monitor the work on the
pipeline in general?
Mr. Cole said Wolverine Pipeline inspects the construction of a pipeline
facility. The Office of Pipeline Safety also inspects the construction of a
pipeline such as this. The Office of Pipeline Safety might not be there
daily. If the City of Lansing feels that it would be necessary in order to
grant consent for the project that it have a full time inspector to watch the
construction activities that occurred within the City of Lansing, Wolverine
Pipeline would be happy to accommodate that and would be happy to
work with the City of Lansing so that they could find reputable persons to
do that work that were not in anyway affiliated with Wolverine Pipeline.
Mr. Ruge said he thinks that one of the big concerns is not just the
construction but ongoing inspections to ensure that there is not some kind
of a leak, especially that goes on undetected.
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Mr. Cole said that they have agreed to put in 6 or 7 valves along this
corridor as it comes into 1-96 and crosses around the city. The purpose of
those 6 valves is to drastically reduce any amount of gasoline that could
leak from the pipeline in the event there was an incident with the pipeline.
Those 6 valves will be remotely operated that will be capable of being
manually operated on site and in addition to the valves they are planning
to install pressure and temperature sensors at each location so that every
time the pipeline is shut down, they can close those valves using the
pressure and temperature sensors to run a pressure test during that down
time. If they combine that with cathodic protection and that they run an
internal inspection tool every 5 years, it would be almost impossible for a
leak to develop that they could not detect prior to the leak losing enough
gasoline to impact any of the city's water wells.
Mr. Ruge said he is saying it is not necessary for some outside person
to...
Mr. Cole said he is just describing what they would do. If they look at
what is absolutely necessary, what he described as overkill, but they are
doing this to make people understand that they plan to operate a safe
pipeline and they don't have to be afraid of it. If the City of Lansing would
like to review such inspections on a periodic basis they would be happy to
allow to do so.
Mr. Smith said Mr. Cole earlier referenced a Mr. Hensel from the Board of
Water and Light. To be clear is he referring to the Mr. Hensel who is the
geologist from Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
Mr. Cole said he referred to him as an expert witness for the City of
Lansing, which is what he was.
Mr. Smith said the reason he asks is because first off on the Executive
Summary that was presented to the MPSC on page 50 is a statement that
says potential long term impacts from larger petroleum spills may occur
due to valve or pipeline failures during pipe operations. So, this is
something that they anticipate happening?
Mr. Cole said no they do not anticipate it.
Mr. Smith said it does say in the report that is even foreseeable. Remote
though it might be it does use the word foreseeable. Mr. Hensel, there is
a statement they have from the Board of Water and Light, has confirmed
that the area through which the pipeline is proposed. . . It says, "in
addition the proposed pipeline route passes through their southwest
wellfield, the Stifel Well Field Wellhead Protection Area that has no
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protective layer at all." So, were there to be a leak, whether it was
catastrophic leak or minor there is very little there to prevent it from going
into the aquifer and possibly contaminating the water supply of which
much of the water for Lansing does then come from underground water.
From the Saginaw Aquifer. So what he is wondering now is even though
he has assured them that it would be safe, there are some pretty
frightening statistics here. For example it says for a non-catastrophic
failure such as an undetected leak is an even greater concern than a
sudden catastrophic line failure. Any automated control system has limited
sensitivity to leaks. With a flow volume of 3.1 million gallons, nearly .01 of
1% of the daily flow would allow 310 gallons of gasoline a day to enter the
ground. If the leak remained undetected for just a month almost 10,000
gallons would be lost. The first indication of the leak would likely be when
contaminants would be measured in the Board of Water and Light
drinking water wells. So, how do they allay their fear of that?
Mr. Cole said first of that the Stifel Well Field is over a mile away and he is
sure that they could consult with any geologist and find out that it takes
literally decades for gasoline to travel through the ground for a mile. What
he just described about the valves and the temperature and pressure
transmitters is so that they have the opportunity to make sure that there is
no undetectable leaks. Also, if they would recall the area in which they
are proposing to build this pipeline, they would remember that in many,
many months of the year, the ground is wet and they simply can not leak
300 gallons of gasoline into the ground that is wet and not have that
gasoline surface. So, the public is one safeguard against the city's
waterwells because if it does surface it will be reported. If it is reported
they will eliminate the leak and clean up the ground. They will remediate
the location and it will not pose a threat to the city's waterwells. The
current 65 year old pipeline that runs between I-96 and I-69 has existed
there for 65 years and although they did not own it for that period of time
and reviewing the records that they have from the prior owners, they do
not find that it has leaked within that corridor and that corridor is also a
corridor that could put gasoline in the same aquifer that they referred to.
So, simply forcing them to use the old pipeline is not a way to resolve the
exposure of the aquifer to gasoline contamination if they were the type of
company that would allow that to happen.
Mr. Smith asked how they do determine an underground leak?
Mr. Cole said they conduct an over and short analysis of the line while it is
running measuring what goes in one end versus what comes out of the
other end. This is computerized and very accurate. Then when they close
a pipeline they leave pressure on a pipeline. In this case there would be
375 to 500 pounds of pressure left on the pipeline. If in the normal course
of business they shut down a pipeline, which occurs routinely, while it is
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shut down with that pressure on it, if they close those 6 or 7 valves they
have segmented the pipeline into very small increments and they can
measure the pressure drop and if there is one, they investigate there was
a pressure drop. Is it due to a valve leaking into the tank at Lansing
terminal or is it due to the gasoline leaking from the pipeline somewhere.
His point is this, if they conduct 24 hour remote surveillance of the
operation of the pipeline and then they in effect pressure test it every time
they shut down, there will not be any leaks occurring on the pipeline that
will be of a magnitude that could readily place gasoline into the City of
Lansing's drinking water. Also, he is not sure that they need to be as
concerned about that possibility as they seem to be because currently
there has been over 112 locations within the City of Lansing where
underground storage tanks have leaked and none of those has resulted in
the contamination of the city's water aquifer.
Mr. Smith said from the time that there was a pressure variance and they
have a potential leak, what kind of a time frame would they be talking
about and the secondary question to that, are there other things that could
give a false reading? In other words, would there be other reasons that
there would be pressure fluctuation that might not be a leak, that may lead
them to assume that they did not have a leak but it is some other problem
so there is some hesitance in addressing the leak?
Mr. Cole said they are required by Office of Pipeline Safety regulation to
inspect the valves and any temperature and pressure transmitters on a 6
month basis and repair any problems associated with those inspections.
For example, a pressure transmitter could give a false indication,
however, it is not likely to show a pressure drop if one was not occurring.
It could show an inaccurate pressure, but if that pressure remains static
then there is no seepage of product from the pipeline. They will respond
immediately to anything that they believe indicates to them that there is
any kind of leakage from the pipe. They are not in the business of spilling
gasoline, they don't get paid for spilling gasoline.
Mr. Smith said that he just mentioned a 6 month interval in the inspection
of the valves. Is he to understand that it is the kind that they would detect
a pressure difference or is the pressure constantly monitored?
Mr. Cole said the pressure and the status of the valve is constantly
monitored. It is a physical on-site inspection that is required every 6
months.
Ms. Foster said he said that when they are going to close the valves they
are going to leave a remaining pressure of 500-800 pounds of pressure
and they would test it with that to see if there was a pressure drop. Would
they ever test it at full pressure with the valves closed?
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Mr. Cole said no, not with product they would not, no.
Ms. Foster said she just wondered if something that leaks at that high
pressure they would not be doing it at a stopped point.
Mr. Cole said if they do that when the pipe is shut down, there will be
times when it will be shut down with diesel fuel in the line. There will be
times when it will be shut down with gasoline in the line. Diesel fuel leaks
from the pipeline easier than gasoline leaks from the pipe line if they are
talking about a seepage occurrence. Because of that fact, they would
have multiple products during this test it is not likely that any type of small
leak would ever be undetected for a significant period of time.
Ms. Foster said it still would not be tested at that high pressure.
Mr. Cole said the reason they do not do it at full pressure is this. The
pressure at which the pipeline will be rated to operate is 1440 psi. That
pressure exists at the pump in Stockbridge and the closer they get to the
Lansing distribution terminal the lower the pressure is. So, by the time it
reaches Lansing the pressure is likely to be 800-900 pounds. So in a
normal routine shutdown, they stop the pump in Stockbridge and close the
valve. As the pressure begins to leave the pipeline at a point in which they
want to catch the remaining pressure then they close the valve at the
Lansing terminal. They never leave it shut down with the full 1440 pounds
of pressure because that would require them to pump against a closed
valve in Lansing and that is not a good practice.
Ms. Foster said if they got turned down on this, what are their viable
options?
Mr. Cole said he does not know what the future would hold if they were
not successful in getting a permit to construct this particular line. He
knows that one option is to use the existing one. That is not a very good
option. He can not tell the Board what the Board of Directors at Wolverine
Pipeline would choose to do in the future. All he can say is that they
would recommend to them that they not spend millions in searching for
the illusive perfect pipeline ramp, because it does not exist. In this current
route that they are proposing it is as good a route as they would find
anywhere in this area to serve this area.
Mr. Ruge said in testimony before the MPSC, Mr. Charles Green, Real
Estate Appraiser, he testified that there were two possible alternative
routes that would avoid any heavily populated areas. Have they checked
into these possible routes?
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Mr. Cole said during the first case, there were several alternative routes
identified and they have looked at those alternative routes. The MPSC
have looked at those alternative routes. Some of those alternative routes
are very close to or similar to the routes that Mr. Green identified and it is
Wolverine's opinion and it is the opinion of MPSC staff engineer that this
route is superior compared to any of the alternatives that Wolverine or the
MPSC studied. Mr. Green is an appraiser, so he is very good at finding
out who owns property and where a pipeline route could be, but he falls
short of being an expert of actually analyzing whether or not a route he
picks is a real viable alternative to the one they have suggested.
Mr. Frederick said they brought up earlier Mr. Hills e-mail that they
received about the spill down near Jackson. The reason he asks this is
he is looking at this pipeline now as something that is going to go in brand
new, but it is going to be 65 years old after he is gone and presumably if
pipelines get older they become more likely to have some kind of a
problem be it maintenance or a leak or whatever. He would like to know
what his company has learned from the experience with the Jackson spill
and what would they do differently today if they had that same accident?
Mr. Cole said with regard to the way they responded, they probably would
not do very much differently than what they did. They responded
effectively as well as Blackman Township and Jackson County Sheriff's
Department and USEPA, the Michigan State Police. Anyone who has
some responsibility for response to an incident like that responded timely
and effectively and they were the first to realize the incident and they shut
the pipeline down immediately and they responded immediately. In
regard to their response they would not do anything differently. If they
look at the way they compensated people who were asked to evacuate
from their homes, they went above and beyond a legal requirement of a
company such as theirs to reimburse them for any possible loss that they
could have suffered as a result of that evacuation. The only thing that
concerns him about that is that it does not satisfy some people. So, he
does not know that there is anything that they would do differently, when
they look at the fact that there are a very small amount of law suits
compared to the fact that 1300 people were evacuated, he guesses that
you would have to say that they did the right thing. His problem is that
they don't seem to be getting credit for doing the right thing. But, if they
watch the news, most businesses don't get credit for doing the right thing.
With regard to the beginning of the question. Mr. Frederick is right, this
pipeline will be 65 years old and when it is 65 years old it will be in far
better condition than a current 65 year old pipeline. That is because of
the fact that industry has learned a lot and regulators have learned a lot
and so now they know more about how to build a pipeline and maintain a
pipeline and the regulatory body understands more about what to require
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of them so they properly maintain the pipeline. So, comparing this
pipeline 65 years from now to the one that currently exists to the east of
them that is 65 years old today is an apples and oranges comparison.
They are not comparable.
Mr. Frederick said earlier he mentioned the valves that they use to close
to perform the tests. From the material that he has read that was
presented during the MPSC hearing, he understands that those valves
are above the 48 inches of depth of the ground that the pipeline is buried.
What he would like to know then, is since those valves are above ground
they seem to be particularly vulnerable to terrorists attack. A year ago
that would not have been as much a concern as it is now, so he would like
to know what their company will do to protect those valves and potentially
there could be a bomb big enough to blow up the pipeline 48 inches in the
ground, although that is fairly deep. At any rate he would like to know
what terrorist protection they have put into the project?
Mr. Cole said they have worked with MDOT to pick locations for those
valves that are above ground so that they minimize any potential for traffic
running off 1-96 to be able to come in contact with the valves and they will
also fence the valves and lock the fence so that it is relatively
inaccessible. They are also on a heavily traveled highway so they are
constantly in the vision of somebody, so they don't anticipate that a
terrorist would find them to be a very attractive target and when they
consider that terrorists are doing these things to make a spectacular point
or to cause severe disruptions, they don't necessarily accomplish either
one of those by blowing up an in ground pipeline. They would more likely
focus on a storage area for petroleum products like Lansing terminal or
like the refinery where it is produced. With regard to what happens if they
actually did blow up the pipeline. The pipeline can be repaired and back
in service within hours if not days and once it is repaired and back in
service they go about the task of cleaning up anything that is spilled from
the pipeline. While they can't guarantee them that a terrorist will never
target a pipeline, they also can't tell them that they consider it to be a very
high risk in compared to all the other targets that they would find around a
city like Lansing that a terrorist might like to go after.
Mr. Frederick asked if anyone, including his company ever considered
moving the terminal that the pipeline would terminate from North Lansing
around to somewhere in the south so they would not have to build this
pipeline or use the existing one at all?
Mr. Cole said Wolverine Pipeline Company does not own the distribution
terminal. It is owned by one of their shippers. The distribution terminal is
a very expensive facility to construct and it also needs to be permitted, so
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the short answer to the question is no that has not been considered and
he would doubt very seriously if Marathon National Petroleum Company
would consider it.
Mr. Ruff said Mr. Cole mentioned after Mr. Frederick's question that their
response in Blackman Township was timely and effective and that the
pipeline was shut down immediately. How many gallons of fuel was
spilled and what size pipeline was that?
Mr. Cole said that pipeline was a 16" in diameter pipeline, which it is larger
than the pipeline proposed here. The remotely controlled valves on that
pipeline were approximately 40 miles apart. In relationship to this route
within the City of Lansing they are talking 5 miles apart. Once they can
close the valves that greatly diminishes the amount of product that can
flow from the pump, however it will still leak out of the pipe by gravity until
other manually operated valve is closed. The closest manually operated
valve was 20 miles away. They did all the valve closings and reduced the
amount of product that was leaking from the pipeline. . .They shut the
pipeline down within minutes and they had all the manual valves closed
within an hour of the actual spill. The amount that they reported to the
National Response Center, which was an estimate at the time because
they had no way to measure it, was 71,400 gallons. The amount that
actually was lost from their pipeline by their meter measurement was like
55,000 gallons. The majority of the gasoline was picked up within the first
24 hours and more than 80% of it was eventually picked up and the
difference between what was picked up and what wasn't was a significant
of it evaporated because the weather was identical to what it is today.
The fact that the weather was identical today is why they evacuated to so
many people. They hauled off 400 dump truck loads of dirt to a landfill
just so that they could make sure that the gasoline did not remain in the
environment within Blackman Township. They are continuing to work with
the MDEQ to make sure that the drain that the gasoline followed on its
way to the Grand River is eventually 100% cleaned up to the satisfaction
of the MDEQ, not to the satisfaction of Wolverine Pipe Line.
Ms. Keene asked if he could tell her exactly the damages that they paid
out to the nature of the injury to the residents. How did the spill impact
their lives?
Mr. Cole said out of the 580 residences that were asked to evacuate they
all had to find alternative housing anywhere from one day to one night to
seven nights. So, they paid for that cost. They paid for the cost of their
meals while they were evacuated from their homes. They paid for the
cost of boarding their pets if that was needed. All of those who were
evacuated had their gas and their power turned off at their home during
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the evacuation period. Some of those residences are in an area where
basement sump pumps are required to operate continually or the
basement floods, so in some houses they had to repair flood damage
because their sump pump was off when they evacuated. Any legitimate
claim that they brought forward was paid. They used a check writing
system with a check written on a local bank so that they had immediate
access to the money. Altogether in that type of claim situation they spent
in excess of 1.5 million dollars.
Mr. Ruge said he wanted to clarify. To these 580 residences they paid
1.5 million dollars?
Mr. Cole said not to each one. In aggregate for lodging, transportation,
food, and for incidental damages to there home in the evacuation period.
Ms. Keene said she assumes that the pipeline was repaired and it is still
in existence where it was at the time.
Mr. Cole said it was repaired in that 7 day period and put back into
service. It is still in service today in the same location.
Lisa Dedden, Ingham County Commissioner representing District 10,
stated her district is the south Lansing area. She is strongly opposed to
the Wolverine Pipe Line proposal to construct a pipeline across south
Lansing. Her opposition is for herself and on behalf of her constituents
who live in homes, apartments and manufactured housing along the
proposed route along I-96. Enclosed in the documents are a copy of
resolution 01-156, entitled Resolution in Opposition to Proposed
Wolverine Pipe Line routes against densely populated residential areas in
Ingham County, which was adopted by the Ingham County Board of
Commissioners on May 22, 2001 and which specifically addresses and
expresses opposition to Wolverine's proposal to construct this route south
Lansing along the 1-96 right of way. Also in the packet is another
document that she has also filed with the Michigan Public Service
Commission which is a photo addendum to her brief and opposition to this
route. As you look at the packet, you can see visual evidence of people
who live in this area and that there are a number of people there and that
there are a number of businesses in contradiction to some of the
comments that the applicant has made on that issue. In particular, she is
here tonight to say Wolverine's request to construct this pipeline in
Lansing should be denied because it would place this pipeline too close to
far too many high consequence areas including densely populated
neighborhoods consisting of homes, apartments, and manufactured
housing communities, public wells upon which a large segment of mid-
Michigan's population is dependent for the water supply, schools, a
congested and growing business district and at least one sizeable daycare
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center. Routing a petroleum products pipeline through this level of
residential and commercial development unacceptably compromises the
safety and interest of thousands of Lansing residents. Official United
States Census Data shows that 9,113 persons live in 4,295 housing units
in the Census blocks immediately adjacently to 1-96 where this proposal
runs through the City of Lansing alone. In conclusion, she stated that as
witnesses have attested throughout both the case currently before the
PSC and the Meridian Township case before the PSC, the risks
associated with the presence of a petroleum products pipeline no matter
how safely the company may attempt to construct and operate that line
from an engineering standpoint are necessarily increased when the
pipeline is located in an area with high density of residential and
commercial development and this added risk is contrary to the public
interest and safety of Lansing residents. She respectfully urged the Board
to deny the proposal before them.
John Pollard, resident of 1718 Blair street, stated he is vehemently
opposed to the Wolverine Pipe Line. It certainly is going to threaten over
9,100 people, 4,200 housing units, 23 of 110 wells, that is about 22
percent of the drinking water of Lansing, 73 abandoned wells and the
water supply for over 200,000 mid-Michigan residents. Absolutely never
should you ever take a chance on jeopardizing water supply. When we
need gasoline a hundred years from now, a thousand years from now who
knows. It could be solar, nuclear or anything. Where human beings need
air and water ten thousand years from now you betcha just like we have
for ten thousand years that preceded us. The Office of Pipeline Safety
may come here to watch the initial construction. They are not going to
stand out there and watch this construction or supervise them the whole
period. They typically show up at the beginning, watch them dig, and
wander off into the sunset. According to figures released by the U.S.
Department of Transportation, Office of Pipeline Safety, in 1998 the latest
year for which the data was available, Michigan petroleum and natural gas
lines had to repair 9,300 leaking underground gas lines and that figure is
double what it was in 1991. Maybe they are getting better with their
technology but they are finding more and more problems. He had data
from the Office of Pipeline Safety. One of things that they are always
going to try and tell you is that the leading cause of accidents and
problems of pipelines are third party damage. People coming and
digging. If you were to take all the problems that cause leakages whether
it is by volume or cause of accident, for example, if corrosion of a pipeline,
failed pipeline, failed well, incorrect operation of a pipeline and
malfunctioning equipment, that is 42.4 percent of all the spillage product.
It is also 46 percent of all the accidents whereas this third party stuff they
are talking about is only 24 percent. What has happened is dis-
aggregated all the data related to a pipeline but when you re-aggregate
the data, the pipeline is the biggest cause of problems with a pipeline not
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the outside source. Finally, he stated that he is opposed to the pipeline
because this is nothing short of environmental discrimination or racism.
The pipeline is coming through here. He has the 2000 Census data for
the track level: the tracks that run along East Lansing and Meridian, the
six tracks that run along Lansing. We have 12 percent to a 55 percent of
a minority population compared to Meridian of 7.6 or 17 percent. The
median or average minority population totals in Lansing are 30.8 percent
or 30.4 percent respectively. That is about 190.6 times greater than it is in
Meridian and 2 2/3 times greater than it is in Meridian, if I look at the
average and the median. We have more children and more poor people
living along the pipeline. The average household income in Lansing is
$49,784 compared to $83,000. There are some tracks in Lansing that are
12%, 15%, 25%, 36%, 38.3% and 55.5% minority. To do this is to violate
civil rights, is to violate the 14`h Amendment of the Constitution of the
United States and he's asking the Board to turn Wolverine down, send
them packing and find an alternate route. This does not come through a
densely populated area which is an oxymoron. There is no such thing as
a safe pipeline where there are people. Send the pipeline out in the
wilderness somewhere and if it blows up, we'll save the wilderness and no
one will die.
Brian Smith, resident of 1007 Woodbine, Chairman of Citizens for a
Better Lansing, stated there is not much more that he could add. He
feels that constructing the pipeline is contrary to public interest and safety
by putting the pipeline through the City of Lansing. This case should be
about public interest and safety not big business and who has the deepest
pockets. It is clear that Wolverine calculated their risks based on the
ability of the impacted families and businesses to fight them and not on
the risk of population of minorities, low income families and children who
would be effected the most if the pipeline fails. Basically, deny the
pipeline.
Clyde Dugan, Special Projects Director and Water Utilities Director
for the Lansing Board of Water and Light, stated that he submitted
testimony on behalf of Board of Water and Light in opposition to the
Wolverine Pipe Line in the MPSE hearings. He wanted to go over briefly
the elements of what he submitted and what the opposition was. The
proposed pipeline runs through 9 '/2 miles of public water supply well head
protection areas. The well head protection areas were determined by the
United States Geological Survey using computer models of the Aquifer
system to delineated well head protection areas were then approved by
Michigan Department of Environmental Quality. Well head protection
areas are those areas that contribute water to public water supply wells
within a 10 year time frame. Parenthetically, that also includes any
constituents of any product that are soluble in water when water travels at
that speed. In other words, if a contaminate is introduced into the ground
or into the Aquifer in these areas, it will reach a public water supply well
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within ten years. Ten public drinking water wells that are within a one
quarter mile buffer zone would be impacted directly by a leakage of
gasoline contaminants from the pipeline and an additional 13 wells are
within the adjacent well head protection areas. Of these 23 wells, 21 are
Board of Water and Light wells. The 21 BWL wells within the impacted
well head protection area represent 22% of our total well field capacity
and they are very productive wells requiring minimal conditioning, so they
represent 25% of our base load capacity. In addition to existing wells, the
proposed pipeline route goes through areas where new wells are planned
and that will be a well head protection area in the future. The water
supply wells within the well head protection area would be significantly
impacted by either a catastrophic failure, which is a sudden and large
release, and that type of failure can be detected by the pipeline control
system, or a non-catastrophic failure, which is an undetected leak. One of
the experts for the Wolverine Pipe Line Company represented that up to
16 gallons a minute could be lost without the automatic protective system
catching it. Contamination that enters the ground will, unless completely
removed, likely enter the drinking water aquifer. The layer of rock,
predominately shale, that separates ground water from the glacial aquifer
or the overlying aquifer is discontinuous and much of this portion of the
well head protection area and that was also reflected in the environmental
assessment done by Wolverine's consultant. In addition, the proposed
pipeline route passes through our southwest well field, the Steifel well field
well head protection area, which has no protective layer at all and by
definition this well head protection area represents 10 year time and
travel, not decades as represented by Mr. Cole. All of these observations
have been confirmed by the BWL Hydro Geologists consultant. In the
case of a catastrophic failure, if the automatic system is engaged, a
quantity of 3.1 million gallons per day at 14.40 psi ensures a considerable
amount of liquid petroleum will be forced directly into the ground and we
have indicated in the file testimony what the volume of that would be. A
non-catastrophic failure, such as an undetected leak, is even of greater
concern than the sudden catastrophic type. Any automated control
system has limited sensitivity to detect leaks with a flow volume of 3.1
million gallons per day, just 1/100 of 1% represents 310 gallons per day of
gasoline into the ground system. The first indication of leak would likely
be when the contaminates were first measured in the BWL drinking water
wells.
Ron Ashley, resident of 4521 Old Lansing Road, stated he has been a
life long resident of Lansing. He finds it very odd that we have heard so
little from the local media, State Journal or any of the local news channels.
Little, if best, has been said and he cannot understand how few people
are here tonight to speak on behalf of trying to stop the pipeline. As a
realtor for 20 years, developers always try to find the path of least
resistence to put through what they want over the desires or the
objections of other people who are already there on the property that they
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are trying to cross. He feels that Wolverine is going across the south side
of Lansing because there is so much rental property and less opposition
from home owners that Wolverine thinks they can get away with this and
get it across without anybody saying too much about it. He wanted to
know that if Wolverine goes along 1-96, are they paying the state some
kind of fee to run alongside the expressway instead of buying land and
running the pipeline through the countryside away from the city. Is this
why the public has not heard anything about the pipeline or is there
something he is missing on the matter. As the pipeline crosses 1-96,
when it reaches an overpass of one of the under streets of south Lansing,
where is it routed then? Is it buried in the ground of one of the lower
streets or how is it handled at this point? (i.e. 1-96 crosses Cedar Street,
South Washington Avenue, Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd., etc.)
Mr. Ruff stated that it is his understanding of what is called directional
drilling, where Wolverine would actually drill underneath the street
intersection, even deeper to get underneath Cedar Street and the same
would be for rivers that would be crossed. Wolverine would drill
underneath the river and then back up the other side, even a 12 inch steel
pipe has a bend to it over a certain length.
Mr. Ashley stated that he finds it very odd that some corporation can
come into the City and their wishes and their desires are more important
than the people who live in the City and pay taxes in the City and who
have lived here their whole lives. He used to live in Dimondale and the
same thing happened to a tract of land behind the subdivision in which he
lived. The land was as dormant as a farmer's field for years. The sewer
line was put in from Dimondale out to Grand Pointe marina. The
company that laid the pipeline found out that the land was zoned multiple
dwelling and they went to the township and threatened them because they
wanted to put in a trailer park. The representative of the company stood
there the first night at the township meeting and said the company has a
quarter of a million dollars to sue anybody who will fight us. He stated that
was so bazaar and so obnoxious that people who would build homes and
live in that subdivision for 30 years, older people who are in their
retirement years, had this on their backs and had this thrown in their face
as being life long residents of that township. He cannot believe that they
thought they could just blow right in and stomp all over these people's life
long living out there and enjoying their property and paying their taxes and
thought their desires were more important than the people who lived out
there. He stated that he would be ashamed of the Board if they allowed
Wolverine to pull this stunt in the City of Lansing.
Dan Judd, resident of 1707 W. Ottawa, stated that he is the owner of
ARQ, Inc., the company who is proposing to purchase the building at 934
Clark Street in reference to NCU-1-2002, and was directed to speak
during the Comments from the Audience.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 16, 2002, Page 21
Seeing no one else wishing to speak on this matter, Mr. Frederick referred
Act-7-2002 to the Planning Board, Committee of the Whole, to meet on
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at Council Chambers, 10" Floor City Hall, 124 W.
Michigan Avenue.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE
Dan Judd, resident of 1707 W. Ottawa, stated that the proposal looks like it
recommended that a substitution go through with a couple of caveats that
include the driveway, whether it be the driveway and a parking lot or just the
driveway, the hard surface being with some type of porous pavement and that
there should be some sort of landscape, screening and buffering zones. He
wasn't sure if that meant a fence or if it meant that the company had to build a
berm. He stated that the company has not yet purchased the property and how
this goes will depend on how the company change whatever offer that has been
made to the property owner. Mr. Ruff stated that the porous pavement is with
the idea it would not be hard surfaced in such a way with asphalt or concrete the
parking area and driveway so that water would not be able to percolate into the
ground. It could be gravel or some other surface that would allow water to
penetrate into the ground and that may take from a site plan review stand point
whether a certain gravel is approved that it be properly edged so that it doesn't
spill over any place or if another material is used like brick, cobbles, or concrete
pavers, that would be an option as well. Then the landscape, screening and
buffering could include fencing, fencing and landscaping or landscaping. Mr.
Ruff wasn't sure if there was fencing on the site presently but stated it would be
to help soften the parking lot areas primarily from the adjoining residential
properties. That is the purpose of it and that it could take on many different
forms that could be designed to meet not only the company's financial needs but
also meet the code requirements for buffering.
Mr. Judd stated that he could get some type of reasonable quotes and talk with
the Planning Department. His biggest concern was that the only quick quotes
the company could get on anything that wasn't basically gravel was going for
$10.00 a square foot, which would add conservatively $40,000-$50,000 to this
project unless the owner cut the price of the building by over half the amount.
The building is going to be vacant for a very, very long time. If gravel is a
reasonable option, then that is what the company would like to do.
Mr. Ruff stated that if this request is approved with these conditions, it doesn't
mean the company still has to purchase the building.
Seeing no one else wishing to address the Board, Mr. Frederick closed the
public comment period.
6. RECESS was taken by the Board.
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7. BUSINESS SESSION
A. Ms. Keene moved; seconded by Ms. Foster to approve the minutes of
April 2, 2002 without corrections. On a voice vote, motion carried (6-0),
the minutes of April 2, 2002 were
APPROVED.
B. Committee Reports
1. ZONING AND ORDINANCE COMMITTEE, Mr. Ruge, Chair
a. Z-5-2002, 1500 E. Cavanaugh Road, "I" Heavy Industrial
District to "G-2" Wholesale District and "H" Light
Industrial District
This is a request by Kevin VanErman to rezone a 13.968
acre parcel located at 1500 E. Cavanaugh Road, west of
Aurelius Rd., immediately east of the Penn. Central Railroad
right-of-way and more particularly described as:
W '/z OF W '/z OF SE 1/4 LYING E OF MC RR R/W, EXC COM
SEC CEN, TH S 185.5 FT TO MC RR R/W, SE'LY ALONG MC
RR R/W 268 FT TO OPEN DRAIN, N 4DEG 50MIN E ALONG
SAID DRAIN TO E&W 1/4 LINE, W 119 FT TO BEG; SEC 34
T4N R2W
from "I" Heavy Industrial District to "G-2" Wholesale District
and "H" Light Industrial District. The applicant proposes to
rezone the north 3.51 acres to "G-2" Wholesale District and
the remaining 10.45 acres to "H" Light Industrial District.
The purpose of the request is to allow for the creation of
small industrial park.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to recommend approval of
Z-5-2002, 1500 E. Cavanaugh Road, "I" Heavy Industrial District to "G-2"
Wholesale District and "H" Light Industrial District.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Foster. . . Ave
Keene . .Ave Patrick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
Smith. . .Aye Ruge . .Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 16, 2002, Page 23
b. Z-6-2002, Willoughby Road, A" Residential District to
"DM-2" Residential District (Amended to "B" Residential
District)
This is a request by John E. Sabty to rezone a vacant 62
acre parcel from "A" Residential District (single family) to
"DM-2" Residential District (multiple family). The property is
located north of Willoughby Rd. and south of 1-96 in the
southeast 1/4 of Section 9, T3N-R2W, City of Lansing and
more particularly described as:
The East % of the Southeast 114 of the Southwest 114
and the Southwest 114 of the Southeast 114 lying
South of the southerly right of way line of 1-96 Section
9 T3N-R2W, City of Lansing, Ingham County, MI.,
except the West 100.0 feet.
The purpose of the request is to allow for the creation of an
850 unit multi-family development.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Ms. Foster to recommend approval of
Z-6-2002, Willoughby Road, "A" Residential District to "B" Residential District
with the assumption that a PRD will be submitted and there will be a 25% bonus
density by utilizing the energy conservation techniques. For the record, the Board
received an agreement from Mr. Sabty to amend his application for rezoning to "B"
Residential District.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Foster. . . Ave
Keene . .Ave Patrick . . Ave
Smith. . .Aye Ruge . .Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED.
C. NCU-1-2002, 934 Clark Street, Request for Substitution
and Class A Status for a Nonconformity
This is a request by ARQ Inc. for a substitution of a
nonconforming use and Class A status for the property
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 16, 2002, Page 24
located at 934 Clark Street. The applicant proposes to
make approximately $50,000 in improvements to the subject
building in order to change its use from a printing business
to an office that provides internet services. The subject
property is currently zoned "B" Residential and is
nonconforming for parking and use. This is not a matter of a
rezoning.
Mr. Ruge inquired about nonconforming for parking. He
stated that he went to the site and it seemed there was
plenty of space for parking. There was an empty lot next
door which Mr. Judd indicated was part of the deal and that
it looked like at one time it had a house on the property. Mr.
Ruff stated that it was probably nonconforming for
improvement and that parking number is contingent upon
the use. Mr. Ruff gave the example of a use that required
only five spaces, it might not be nonconforming for number.
When you have a gravel surface or have something that is
not lined, it is difficult to say. You can say that you can get
so many spaces but practically when people park on gravel
they don't park the same as if you would give it hard
surfacing and lines. The parking number is probably not the
coefficient that is nonconforming. It is probably due to the
surfacing or its improvement.
Mr. Ruge inquired about the City's standards for lighting in a
parking lot. Mr. Ruff stated that there is no requirement for
lighting but if you do, the lighting is supposed to remain on
site. It is not supposed to be directed or spill over to the
adjacent properties. Mr. Ruff also stated that most
insurance companies demand that you have lighting.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Ms. Foster to recommend approval of
NCU-1-2002, 934 Clark Street, Request for Substitution and Class A Status for a
Nonconformity with the following conditions:
1. The driveway be surfaced with porous pavement.
2. Landscape, screening and buffering be provided along the periphery of
the property as required by the Zoning Ordinance.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 16, 2002, Page 25
3. That all other requirements be met (storm water runoff, parking lot lighting,
access to parking space, etc.) through the Site Plan Review process.
4. That all required improvements be completed within one year from the
approval of this NCU request.
5. The south driveway be closed.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Foster. . . Ave
Keene . .Ave Patrick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
Smith. . .Aye Ruge . .Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED w/CONDITIONS.
d. Ordinance Amendments (Accessory Structure and Front
Yard Setbacks)
Mr. Ruge stated that Ms. Stachowiak had indicated the
language that was currently presented was found
unenforceable by the Court, so it was tabled.
Next meeting, Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
2. URBAN DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, Ms. Patrick, Chair
Next meeting, Tuesday, April 23, 2002, at 6:00 p.m.
Council Chambers, 10th Floor, City Hall, 124 W. Michigan Ave.
3. Committee of the Whole - None.
4. Executive Committee - None.
C. REPORT FROM PLANNING MANAGER
Mr. Ruff stated that the Development Planning Committee of Council met
today and recommended approval of the recent rezoning requests that the
Board has recommended. Z-21-2001 and Z-1-2002 were approved.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 16, 2002, Page 26
D. PENDING ITEMS (future action required)
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a. - - urner St.,"H- Light Industrial District to"G-V Business
District(Tabled February 11, 1998)
b. Z-5-1998,401-407 E. Grand River, "F"Commercial District to"G-1"Business
District(Tabled June 10, 1998)
C. Z-8-2000, 3901 S. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.,"F"Commercial to"H" Light
Industrial District(Tabled June 14, 2000)
d. Z-15-2000, 301 W. Lenawee Street, Professional Office to"G-V Business
District(Tabled January 17,2001
e. P-1-2001,Tentative Preliminary Plat, Wexford Woods(Tabled June 13, May 9,
2001)
f. PRD-2-2001, "Crystal Woods", Planned Residential Neighborhood (Tabled
Commercial District
August 15, 20011
g. SLU-6-2001, 51 -519 E. Grand River Ave., Church in"F-1"
(Tabled November 14,2001)
h. SLU-8-2001, 3000 W. Miller Road,Additional Parking for an Existing Church
(Tabled November 14,2001)
i. SLU-1-2002, 1400 Block,W.Jolly Road, Special Land Use Permit- New Church
Ordinance Amendments, Front Yard Setbacks and Accessory Structures
2. brban Development Committee
a. Act-9-2000, 201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj. Sign Over ROW (Tabled June 27,
2000)
b. Act-2-2002, Lansing Housing Commission Property, 310 Seymour,Acquisition
for public purposes(Tabled February 26, 2002)
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planning Board
a. Act-27-2001, 313 E. Grand River Ave. (Comfort Station), Market for Sale (Tabled
April 2, 2002)
8. NEW BUSINESS - None.
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON - None.
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Ms. Foster stated that during the Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting
there was a discussion about obtaining a legal opinion regarding the flood plain
development zoning that the City currently has. The second thing discussed was
affordable housing and that some people could argue whether or not there was
enough affordable housing in Lansing. The last thing mentioned briefly was
looking into whether 1% of private development budget could go into art or any
construction that will be occurring in the city. She inquired about the Z&O
Committee obtaining a legal opinion of whether or not some of these things
could happen here in Lansing. She explained that Portland, Oregon takes 1% of
the total budget and applies it towards art. Mr. Ruff stated he would check into
the matter. He also stated that he could obtain a report on affordable housing
from Mr. Emil Winnicker, Development Manager. There was a general
discussion that followed regarding affordable housing.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 16, 2002, Page 27
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS
Mr. Ruge stated that he has not seen any changes with the church on Michigan
Ave. He knew about the enforcement action taken against the church but he is
not seeing any changes.
Mr. Ruge inquired about the plumbing business on Lake Lansing. He stated that
the plumbing business rebuilt all the curbs and put a curb cut in front of the
building. Mr. Ruff stated he would check into the matter.
Ms. Foster inquired about who determines street widening and street
improvements. Mr. Ruff stated that in the City of Lansing, the City makes those
determinations except if it is a state trunk line, the City would work cooperatively.
Mr. Ruff discussed Capitol Improvements
Mr. Frederick inquired about the King World convenient store that is located on
the southwest corner of Kalamazoo and Clemens. He stated that the store looks
like it has a beer and wine license and that in his opinion it is looking like trouble,
especially with signs. Mr. Ruff stated that he would look into the matter.
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 9:28 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
PB Minutes.041602.wpd
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Ms. Keene asked if he could tell her exactly the damages that they paid
out to the nature of the injury to the residents. How did the spill impact
their lives?
Mr. Cole said out of the 580 residences that were asked to evacuate they
all had to find alternative housing anywhere from one day to one night to
seven nights. So, they paid for that cost. They paid for the cost of their
meals while they were evacuated from their homes. They paid for the
cost of boarding their pets if that was needed. All of those who were
evacuated had their gas and their power turned off at their home during
the evacuation period. Some of those residences are in an area where
basement sump pumps are required to operate continually or the
basement floods, so in some houses they had to repair flood damage
because their sump pump was off when they evacuated. Any legitimate
claim that they brought forward was paid. They used a check writing
system with a check written on a local bank so that they had immediate
access to the money. Altogether in that type of claim situation they spent
in excess of 1.5 million dollars.
Mr. Ruge said he wanted to clarify. To these 580 residences they paid
1.5 million dollars?
Mr. Cole said not to each one. In aggregate for lodging, transportation,
food, and for incidental damages to there home in the evacuation period.
Ms. Keene said she assumes that the pipeline was repaired and it is still
in existence where it was at the time.
Mr. Cole said it was repaired in that 7 day period and put back into
service. It is still in service today in the same location.
Lisa Dedden, Ingham County Commissioner representing District 10,
stated her district is the south Lansing area. She is strongly opposed to
the Wolverine Pipe Line proposal to construct a pipeline across south
Lansing. Her opposition is for herself and on behalf of her constituents
who live in homes, apartments and manufactured housing along the
proposed route along 1-96. Enclosed in the documents are a copy of
resolution 01-156, entitled Resolution in Opposition to Proposed
Wolverine Pipe Line routes against densely populated residential areas in
Ingham County, which was adopted by the Ingham County Board of
Commissioners on May 22, 2001 and which specifically addresses and
expresses opposition to Wolverine's proposal to construct this route south
Lansing along the 1-96 right of way. Also in the packet is another
document that she has also filed with the Michigan Public Service
Commission which is a photo addendum to her grief and opposition to this
route. As you look at the packet, you can see visual evidence of people
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who live in this area and that there are a number of people there and that
there are a number of businesses in contradiction to some of the
comments that the applicant has made on that issue. In particular, she is
here tonight to say Wolverine's request to construct this pipeline in
Lansing should be denied because it would place this pipeline to close to
far to many high consequence areas including densely populated
neighborhoods consisting of homes, apartments, and manufactured
housing communities, public wells upon which a large segment of mid-
Michigan's population is dependent for the water supply, schools, a
congested and growing business district and at least one sizeable daycare
center. Routing a petroleum products pipeline through this level of
residential and commercial development unacceptably compromises the
safety and interest of thousands of Lansing residents. Official United
States Census Data shows that 9,113 persons live in 4,295 housing units
in the Census blocks immediately adjacently to 1-96 where this proposal
runs through the city of Lansing alone. In conclusion, she stated that as
witnesses have attested throughout both the case currently before the
PSC and the Meridian Township case before the PSC, the risks
associated with the presence of a petroleum products pipeline no matter
how safely the company may attempt to construct and operate that line
from an engineering standpoint are necessarily increased when the
pipeline is located in an area with high density of residential and
commercial development and this added risk is contrary to the public
interest and safety of Lansing residents. She respectfully urged the Board
to deny the proposal before them.
John Pollard, resident of 1718 Blair street, stated he is vehemently
opposed to the Wolverine Pipe Line. It certainly is going to threaten over
9,100 people, 4,200 housing units, 23 of 110 wells, that is about 22
percent of the drinking water of Lansing, 73 abandoned wells and the
water supply for over 200,000 mid-Michigan residents. Absolutely never
should you ever take a chance on jeopardizing water supply. When we
need gasoline a hundred years from now, a thousand years from now who
knows. It could be solar, nuclear or anything. Where human beings need
air and water ten thousand years from now you betcha just like we have
for ten thousand years that preceded us. The Office of Pipeline Safety
may come here to watch the initial construction. They are not going to
stand out there and watch this construction or supervise them the whole
period. They typically show up at the beginning, watch them dig, and
wonder off into the sunset. According to figures released by the U.S.
Department of Transportation, Office of Pipeline Safety, in 1998 the latest
year for which the data was available, Michigan petroleum and natural gas
lines had to repair 9,300 leaking underground gas lines and that figure is
double what it was in 1991. Maybe they are getting better with their
technology but they are finding more and more problems. He had data
from the Office of Pipeline Safety. One of things that they are always
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going to try and tell you is that the leading cause of accidents and
problems of pipelines are third party damage. People coming and
digging. If you were to take all the problems that cause leakages whether
it is by volume or cause of accident, for example, if corrosion of a pipeline,
failed pipeline, failed well, incorrect operation of a pipeline and
malfunctioning equipment, that is 42.4 percent of all the spillage product.
It is also 46 percent of all the accidents whereas this third party stuff they
are talking about is only 24 percent. What has happened is dis-
aggregated all the data related to a pipeline but when you re-aggregate
the data, the pipeline is the biggest cause of problems with a pipeline not
the outside source. Finally, he stated that he is opposed to the pipeline
because this is nothing short of environmental discrimination or racism.
The pipeline is coming through here. He has the 2000 Census data for
the track level: the tracks that run along East Lansing and Meridian, the
six tracks that run along Lansing. We have 12 percent to a 55 percent of
a minority population compared to Meridian of 7.6 or 17 percent. The
median or average minority population totals in Lansing are 30.8 percent
or 30.4 percent respectively. That is about 190.6 times greater than it is in
Meridian and 2 2/3 times greater than it is in Meridian, if I look at the
average and the median. We have more children and more poor people
living along the pipeline. The average household income in Lansing is
$49,784 compared to $83,000. There are some tracks in Lansing that are
12%, 15%, 25%, 36%, 38.3% and 55.5% minority. To do this is to violate
civil rights, is to violate the 141h Amendment of the Constitution of the
United States and he's asking the Board to turn Wolverine down, send
them packing and find an alternate route. This does not come through a
densely populated area which is an oxymoron. There is no such thing as
a safe pipeline where there are people. Send the pipeline out in the
wilderness somewhere and if it blows up, we'll save the wilderness and no
one will die.
Brian Smith, resident of 1007 Woodbine, Chairman of Citizens for a
Better Lansing, stated there is not much more that he could add. He
feels that constructing the pipeline is contrary to public interest and safety
by putting the pipeline through the city of Lansing. This case should be
about public interest and safety not big business and who has the deepest
pockets. It is clear that Wolverine calculated their risks based on the
ability of the impacted families and businesses to fight them and not on
the risk of population of minorities, low income families and children who
would be effected the most if the pipeline fails. Basically, deny the
pipeline.
Clyde Dugan, Special Projects Director and Water Utilities Director
for the Lansing Board of Water and Light, stated that he submitted
testimony on behalf of Board of Water and Light in opposition to the
Wolverine Pipe Line in the MPSE hearings. He wanted to go over briefly
the elements of what he submitted and what the opposition was. The
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proposed pipeline runs through 9 '/2 miles of public water supply well head
protection areas. The well head protection areas were determined by the
United States Geological Survey using computer models of the Aquifer
system to delineated well head protection areas were then approved by
Michigan Department of Environmental Quality. Well head protection
areas are those areas that contribute water to public water supply wells
within a 10 year time frame. Parenthetically, that also includes any
constituents of any product that are soluble in water when water travels at
that speed. In other words, if a contaminate is introduced into the ground
or into the Aquifer in these areas, it will reach a public water supply well
within ten years. Ten public drinking water wells that are within a one
quarter mile buffer zone would be impacted directly by a leakage of
gasoline contaminants from the pipeline and an additional 13 wells are
within the adjacent well head protection areas. Of these 23 wells, 21 are
Board of Water and Light wells. The 21 BWL wells within the impacted
well head protection area represent 22% of our total well field capacity
and they are very productive wells requiring minimal conditioning, so they
represent 25% of our base load capacity. In addition to existing wells, the
proposed pipeline route goes through areas where new wells are planned
and that will be a well head protection area in the future. The water
supply wells within the well have protection area would be significantly
impacted by either a catastrophic failure, which is a sudden and large
release, and that type of failure can be detected by the pipeline control
system, or a non-catastrophic failure, which is an undetected leak. One of
the experts for the Wolverine Pipe Line Company represented that up to
16 gallons a minute could be lost without the automatic protective system
catching it. Contamination that enters the ground will, unless completely
removed, likely enter the drinking water Aquifer. The layer of rock
predominately shale that separates ground water from the glacial Aquifer
or the overlying aquifer is discontinuous and much of this portion of the
well head protection area and that was also reflected in the environmental
assessment done by Wolverine's consultant. In addition, the proposed
pipeline route passes through our southwest well field, the Steiffold well
field well head protection area, which has no protective layer at all and by
definition this well head protection area represents 10 year time and
travel, not decades as represented by Mr. Cole. All of these observations
have been confirmed by the BWL Hydro Geologists consultant. In the
case of a catastrophic failure, if the automatic system is engaged, a
quantity of 3.1 million gallons per day at 14.40 psi ensures a considerable
amount of liquid petroleum will be forced directly into the ground and we
have indicated in the file testimony what the volume of that would be. A
non-catastrophic failure, such as an undetected leak, is even of greater
concern than the sudden catastrophic type. Any automated control
system has limited sensitivity to detect leaks with a flow volume of 3.1
million gallons per day, just 1/100 of 1% represents 310 gallons per day of
gasoline into the ground system. The first indication of leak would likely
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 16, 2002, Page 20
be when the contaminates were first measured in the BWL drinking water
wells.
Ron Ashley, resident of 4521 Old Lansing Road, stated he has been a
life long resident of Lansing. He finds it very odd that we have heard so
little from the local media, State Journal or any of the local news channels.
Little, if best, has been said and he cannot understand how few people
are here tonight to speak on behalf of trying to stop the pipeline. As a
realtor for 20 years, developers always try to find the path of least
resistence to put through what they want over the desires or the
objections of other people who are already there on the property that they
are trying to cross. He feels that Wolverine is going across the south side
of Lansing because there is so much rental property and less opposition
from home owners that Wolverine thinks they can get away with this and
get it across without anybody saying too much about it. He wanted to
know that if Wolverine goes along 1-96, are they paying the state some
kind of fee to run alongside the expressway instead of buying land and
running the pipeline through the countryside away from the city. Is this
why the public has not heard anything about the pipeline or is there
something he is missing on the matter. As the pipeline crosses 1-96,
when it reaches an overpass of one of the under streets of south Lansing,
where is it routed then? Is it buried in the ground of one of the lower
streets or how is it handled at this point? (i.e. 1-96 crosses Cedar Street,
South Washington Avenue, Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd., etc.)
Mr. Ruff stated that it is his understanding of what is called directional
drilling, where Wolverine would actually drill underneath the street
intersection, even deeper to get underneath Cedar Street and the same
would be for rivers that would be crossed. Wolverine would drill
underneath the river and then back up the other side, even a 12 inch steel
pipe has a bend to it over a certain length of time.
Mr. Ashley stated that he finds it very odd that some corporation can
come into the City and their wishes and their desires are more important
than the people who live in the City and pay taxes in the City and who
have lived here their whole lives. He used to live in Dimondale and the
same thing happened to a tract of land behind the subdivision in which he
lived. The land was as dormant as a farmer's field for years. The sewer
line was put in from Dimondale out to Grand Pointe marina. The
company that laid the pipeline found out that the land was zoned multiple
dwelling and they went to the township and threatened them because they
wanted to put in a trailer park. The representative of the company stood
there the first night at the township meeting and said the company has a
quarter of a million dollars to sue anybody who will fight us. He stated that
was so bazaar and so obnoxious that people who would build homes and
live in that subdivision for 30 years, older people who are in their
retirement years, had this on their backs and had this thrown in their face
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 16, 2002, Page 21
as being life long residents of that township. He cannot believe that they
thought they could just blow right in and stomp all over these people's life
long living out there and enjoying their property and paying their taxes and
thought their desires were more important than the people who lived out
there. He stated that he would be ashamed of the Board if they allowed
Wolverine to pull this stunt in the City of Lansing.
Dan Judd, resident of 1707 W. Ottawa, stated that he is the owner of
ARQ, Inc., the company who is proposing to purchase the building at 934
Clark Street and was directed to speak during the Comments from the
Audience.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak on this matter, Mr. Frederick referred
Act-7-2002 to the Planning Board, Committee of the Whole, to meet on
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at Council Chambers, 101h Floor City Hall, 124 W.
Michigan Avenue.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE
Dan Judd, resident of 1707 W. Ottawa, stated that the proposal looks like it
recommended that a substitution go through with a couple of caveats that
include the driveway, whether it be the driveway and a parking lot or just the
driveway, the hard surface being with some type of porous pavement and that
there should be some sort of landscape, screening and buffering zones. He
wasn't sure if that meant a fence or if it meant that the company had to build a
burm. He stated that the company has not yet purchased the property and how
this goes will depend on how the company change whatever offer that has been
made to the property owner. Mr. Ruff stated that the porous pavement is with
the idea it would not be hard surfaced in such a way with asphalt or concrete the
parking area and driveway so that water would not be able to percolate into the
ground. It could be gravel or some other surface that would allow water to
penetrate into the ground and that may take from a site plan review stand point
whether a certain gravel is approved that it be properly edged so that it doesn't
spill over any place or if another material is used like brick, cobbles, or concrete
pavers, that would be an option as well. Then the landscape, screening and
buffering could include fencing, fencing and landscaping or landscaping. Mr.
Ruff wasn't sure if there was fencing on the site presently but stated it would be
to help soften the parking lot areas primarily from the adjoining residential
properties. That is the purpose of it and that it could take on many different
forms that could be designed to meet not only the company's financial needs but
also meet the code requirements for buffering.
Mr. Judd stated that he could get some type of reasonable quotes and talk with
the Planning Department. His biggest concern was that the only quick quotes
the company could get on anything that wasn't basically gravel was going for
$10.00 a square foot, which would add conservatively $40,000-$50,000 to this
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project unless the owner cut the price of the building by over half the amount.
The building is going to be vacant for a very, very long time. If gravel is a
reasonable option, then that is what the company would like to do.
Mr. Ruff stated that if this request is approved with these conditions, it doesn't
mean the company still has to purchase the building.
Seeing no one else wishing to address the Board, Mr. Frederick closed the
public comment period.
6. RECESS was taken by the Board.
7. BUSINESS SESSION
A. Ms. Keene moved; seconded by Ms. Foster to approve the minutes of
April 2, 2002 without corrections. On a voice vote, motion carried (6-0),
the minutes of April 2, 2002 were
APPROVED.
B. Committee Reports
1. ZONING AND ORDINANCE COMMITTEE, Mr. Ruge, Chair
a. Z-5-2002, 1500 E. Cavanaugh Road, "I" Heavy Industrial
District to "G-2" Wholesale District and "H" Light
Industrial District
This is a request by Kevin VanErman to rezone a 13.968
acre parcel located at 1500 E. Cavanaugh Road, west of
Aurelius Rd., immediately east of the Penn. Central Railroad
right-of-way and more particularly described as:
W Y2 OF W Y2 OF SE 1/4 LYING E OF MC RR R/W, EXC COM
SEC CEN, TH S 185.5 FT TO MC RR R/W, SE'LY ALONG MC
RR R/W 268 FT TO OPEN DRAIN, N 4DEG 50MIN E ALONG
SAID DRAIN TO E&W 1/4 LINE, W 119 FT TO BEG; SEC 34
T4N R2W
from "I" Heavy Industrial District to "G-2" Wholesale District
and "H" Light Industrial District. The applicant proposes to
rezone the north 3.51 acres to "G-2" Wholesale District and
the remaining 10.45 acres to "H" Light Industrial District.
The purpose of the request is to allow for the creation of
small industrial park.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 16, 2002, Page 23
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Ms. Patrick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to recommend approval of
Z-5-2002, 1500 E. Cavanaugh Road, "I" Heavy Industrial District to "G-2"
Wholesale District and "H" Light Industrial District.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Foster. . . Aye
Keene . .Ave Patrick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
Smith. .Ave Ruge .Aye
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED.
b. Z-6-2002, Willoughby Road, A" Residential District to
"DM-2" Residential District
This is a request by John E. Sabty to rezone a vacant 62
acre parcel from "A" Residential District (single family) to
"DM-2" Residential District (multiple family). The property is
located north of Willoughby Rd. and south of 1-96 in the
southeast 1/4 of Section 9, T3N-R2W, City of Lansing and
more particularly described as:
The East % of the Southeast 114 of the Southwest 114
and the Southwest 114 of the Southeast 114 lying
South of the southerly right of way line of 1-96 Section
9 T3N-R2W, City of Lansing, Ingham County, MI.,
except the West 100.0 feet.
The purpose of the request is to allow for the creation of an
850 unit multi-family development.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Ms. Foster to recommend approval of
Z-6-2002, Willoughby Road, "A" Residential District to "B" Residential District
with the assumption that a PRD will be submitted and there will be a 25% bonus
density by utilizing the energy conservation techniques. For the record, the Board
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 16, 2002, Page 24
received an agreement from Mr. Sabty to amend his application for rezoning to "B"
Residential District.
Frederick . . Ave Foster. . . Ave
Keene . .Ave Patrick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ..Aye
Smith. . .Ave Ruge . .Aye
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED.
C. NCU-1-2002, 934 Clark Street, Request for Substitution
and Class A Status for a Nonconformity
This is a request by ARQ Inc. for a substitution of a
nonconforming use and Class A status for the property
located at 934 Clark Street. The applicant proposes to
make approximately $50,000 in improvements to the subject
building in order to change its use from a printing business
to an office that provides internet services. The subject
property is currently zoned "B" Residential and is
nonconforming for parking and use. This is not a matter of a
rezoning.
Mr. Ruge inquired about nonconforming for parking. He
stated that he went to the site and it seemed there was
plenty of space for parking. There was an empty lot next
door which Mr. Judd indicated was part of the deal and that
it looked like at one time it had a house on the property. Mr.
Ruff stated that it was probably nonconforming for
improvement and that parking number is contingent upon
the use. Mr. Ruff gave the example of a use that required
only five spaces, it might not be nonconforming for number.
When you have a gravel surface or have something that is
not lined, it is difficult to say. You can say that you can get
so many spaces but practically when people park on gravel
they don't park the same as if you would give it hard
surfacing and lines. The parking number is probably not the
coefficient that is nonconforming. It is probably due to the
surfacing or its improvement.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 16, 2002, Page 25
Mr. Ruge inquired about the City's standards for lighting in a
parking lot. Mr. Ruff stated that there is no requirement for
lighting but if you do, the lighting is supposed to remain on
site. It is not supposed to be directed or spill over to the
adjacent properties. Mr. Ruff also stated that most
insurance companies demand that you have lighting.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Ms. Foster to recommend approval of
NCU-1-2002, 934 Clark Street, Request for Substitution and Class A Status for a
Nonconformity with the following conditions:
1. The driveway be hard-surfaced with porous pavement.
2. Landscape, screening and buffering be provided along the periphery of
the property as required by the Zoning Ordinance.
3. That all other requirements be met (storm water runoff, parking lot lighting,
access to parking space, etc.) through the Site Plan Review process.
4. That all required improvements be completed within one year from the
approval of this NCU request.
5. The south driveway be closed.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Foster. . . Ave
Keene . .Ave Patrick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
Smith. . .Ave Ruge . .Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED w/CONDITIONS.
d. Ordinance Amendments (Accessory Structure and Front
Yard Setbacks)
Mr. Ruge stated that Ms. Stachowiak had indicated the
language that was currently presented was found
unenforceable by the Court, so it was tabled.
Next meeting, Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 16, 2002, Page 26
2. URBAN DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, Ms. Patrick, Chair
Next meeting, Tuesday, April 23, 2002, at 6:00 p.m.
Council Chambers, 101h Floor, City Hall, 124 W. Michigan Ave.
3. Committee of the Whole - None.
4. Executive Committee - None.
C. REPORT FROM PLANNING MANAGER
Mr. Ruff stated that the Development Planning Committee of Council met
today and recommended approval of the recent rezoning requests that the
Board has recommended. Z-21-2001 and Z-1-2002 were approved.
D. PENDING ITEMS (future action required)
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a. - - urner St.,"H" Light Industrial District to"G-1" Business
District(fabled February 11, 1998)
b. Z-5-1998 401-407 E. Grand River,"F"Commercial District to"G-1" Business
District(fabled June 10, 1998)
C. Z-8-2000, 3901 S. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.,7"Commercial to"H" Light
Industrial District(Tabled June 14,2000)
d. Z-15-2000, 301 W. Lenawee Street, Professional Office to"G-1"Business
District(Tabled January 17,2001
e. P-1-2001,Tentative Preliminary lat,Wexford Woods (Tabled June 13, May 9,
2001)
f. PRD-2-2001,"Crystal Woods", Planned Residential Neighborhood (Tabled
August 15,2001)
g. SLU-6-2001, 51 -519 E. Grand River Ave., Church in"F-1"Commercial District
(Tabled November 14, 2001)
h. LU-8-2001, 3000 W. Miller Road,Additional Parking for an Existing Church
(Tabled November 14,2001)
i. SLU-1-2002, 1400 Block,W. Jolly Road, Special Land Use Permit-New Church
Ordinance Amendments, Front Yard Setbacks and Accessory Structures
2. brban Development Committee
a. Act-9-2000,201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj. Sign Over ROW (Tabled June 27,
2000)
b. Act-2-2002, Lansing Housing Commission Property, 310 Seymour,Acquisition
for public purposes (Tabled February 26,2002)
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planning Board
a. Act-27-2001, 313 E. Grand River Ave. (Comfort Station), Market for Sale(Tabled
April 2,2002)
8. NEW BUSINESS - None.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 16, 2002, Page 27
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON - None.
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Ms. Foster stated that during the Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting
there was a discussion about obtaining a legal opinion regarding the flood plain
development zoning that the City currently has. The second thing discussed was
affordable housing and that some people could argue whether or not there was
enough affordable housing in Lansing. The last thing mentioned briefly was
looking into whether 1% of private development budget could go into art or any
construction that will be occurring in the city. She inquired about the Z&O
Committee obtaining a legal opinion of whether or not some of these things
could happen here in Lansing. She explained that Portland, Oregon takes 1% of
the total budget and applies it towards art. Mr. Ruff stated he would check into
the matter. He also stated that he could obtain a report on affordable housing
from Mr. Emil Winnicker, Development Manager. There was a general
discussion that followed regarding affordable housing.
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS
Mr. Ruge stated that he has not seen any changes with the church on Michigan
Ave. He knew about the enforcement action taken against the church but he is
not seeing any changes.
Mr. Ruge inquired about the plumbing business on Lake Lansing. He stated that
the plumbing business rebuilt all the curbs and put a curb cut in front of the
building. Mr. Ruff stated he would check into the matter.
Ms. Foster inquired about who determines street widening and street
improvements. Mr. Ruff stated that in the City of Lansing, the City makes those
determinations except if it is a state trunk line, the City would work cooperatively.
Mr. Ruff discussed the Capitol Improvements
Mr. Frederick inquired about the King World convenient store that is located on
the southwest corner of Kalamazoo and Clemens. He stated that the store looks
like it has a beer and wine license and that in his opinion it is looking like trouble.
Mr. Ruff stated that he would look into the matter.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 16, 2002, Page 28
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 9:28 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
PB Minutes.041602.wpd
Approved as written 4-16-02 Draft to Clerk April 12,2002
Approved April 16,2002
To Clerk April 17,2002
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, April 2, 2002
1. OPENING SESSION
The meeting was called to order at 7:03 p.m. by Chairman Frederick.
A. Roll call. Present: Frederick, Foster, Keene, Patrick, Smith, Ruge.
B. Staff Attending: Ruff, Stachowiak, Rieske, Wee.
C. Excused absence: Ms. Cordill.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
It was moved by Ms. Keene, supported by Mr. Ruge to approve the revised
agenda. On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0).
3. COMMUNICATIONS
A. Letter from Ms. Katherine Kennell supporting the improvements for
NCU-1-2002.
B. Letter from the North Lansing Community Association, submitted by
Ms. Beverly Miller, stating the association would like to purchase the
Comfort Station property for a nominal fee of $1.00 and how the
association has occupied, maintained and improved the property since
1980.
4. HEARINGS
A. Z-5-2002, 1500 E. Cavanaugh Road, "I" Heavy Industrial District to
"G-2" Wholesale District and "H" Light Industrial District
This is a request by Kevin VanErman to rezone a 13.968 acre parcel
located at 1500 E. Cavanaugh Road, west of Aurelius Rd., immediately
east of the Penn. Central Railroad right-of-way and more particularly
described as:
W '/z OF W '/2 OF SE 1/4 LYING E OF MC RR R/W, EXC COM SEC CEN, TH S
185.5 FT TO MC RR R/W, SE'LY ALONG MC RR R/W 268 FT TO OPEN
DRAIN, N 4DEG 50MIN E ALONG SAID DRAIN TO E&W 1/4 LINE, W 119 FT
TO BEG; SEC 34 T4N R2W
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 2, 2002, Page 2
from "I" Heavy Industrial District to "G-2" Wholesale District and "H" Light
Industrial District. The applicant proposes to rezone the north 3.51 acres
to "G-2" Wholesale District and the remaining 10.45 acres to "H" Light
Industrial District. The purpose of the request is to allow for the creation
of small industrial park.
Sue Stachowiak gave a brief overview.
Richard Cooley, representing the applicant, stated that the Planning
staff recommended approval of the special land use permit. Public
Service approved the site plan for the private road and utility construction
and also approved the special land use permit which would allow
construction of buildings in the flood plain. He stated that last fall when
the Planning Board dealt with the special land use issue, there were
concerns for potential environmental hazzards to the water resource of
Sycamore Creek based on the allowable uses in the heavy industrial
district in the current zoning ordinance. He stated that City Council had
the same concerns when the special land use issue was brought before
them at the January 2002 City Council meeting. Even though heavy
industrial zoning does comply with the Master Plan, the applicant,
Mr. VanErman, acknowledged these concerns as legitimate. He stated
that after several meetings with Mr. Ruff, EDC, architects and marketing
contacts, Mr. VanErman carefully considered and electively consented to
a change in the zoning district of the property to a lesser district in order to
address the concerns voiced by the Planning Board and City Council.
During the discussions, staff had proposed a "G-2" Wholesale District as
being most closely aligned with the proposed uses for this business park.
He stated that this would address the Planning Board and City Council
concerns by eliminating a lot of the uses that would be allowed under the
district, but that it would eliminate several strong perspective users that
the applicant and EDC anticipated would want to locate to Lansing. It was
the desire on behalf of the City of Lansing as well as Mr. VanErman to
accommodate the GM suppliers and the efforts to keep the GM plants
local in Lansing. It should be noted that EDC would like to see this
property designated as an industrial development district or be part of one
based on the intentions to try to locate the suppliers in the City. After all
these considerations, Mr. VanErman came up with this proposal in case
Z-5-2002, which involved the two districts mentioned ("G-2" Wholesale
District being on the Cavanaugh Road frontage, about 3 Y2 acres, and "H"
Light Industrial on the remaining 10 '/2 acres) to accommodate the
possibility, and the good prospect of the GM supplier. These zoning
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districts would allow the uses, including the office warehousing that put
forth before, to range from warehousing and distribution all the way up to
some light industrial uses if processing, packaging and assembling of
items inside a building. With all the internal checks and balances
available in this process to the City of Lansing regarding the Planning staff
and Public Service input during the site plan review, the special land use
permit processes involving MDEQ, the regulations regarding flood plain,
water ways, wetlands and air quality, the input from the Ingham County
Drain Commissioner that was sought by City Council, all the various
Federal regulations and also the regulations that the lender involved in
this project is going to have of Mr. VanErman, he believes that the zoning
pattern that has been proposed with the combination of "G-2" Wholesale
district and "H" Light Industrial district and the resulting uses in these
districts would find acceptable to the Planning Board and City Council.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak on this matter, Mr. Frederick referred
Z-5-2002 to the next Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting to be held
on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 316 N. Capitol Avenue.
B. Z-6-2002, Willoughby Road, "A" Residential District to "DM-2"
Residential District
This is a request by John E. Sabty to rezone a vacant 62 acre parcel from
"A" Residential District (single family) to "DM-2" Residential District
(multiple family). The property is located north of Willoughby Rd. and
south of 1-96 in the southeast 1/4 of Section 9, T3N-R2W, City of Lansing
and more particularly described as:
The East % of the Southeast 114 of the Southwest 114 and the
Southwest 114 of the Southeast 114 lying South of the southerly
right of way line of 1-96 Section 9 T3N-R2W, City of Lansing,
Ingham County, MI., except the West 100.0 feet.
The purpose of the request is to allow for the creation of an 850 unit multi-
family development.
Sue Stachowiak gave a brief overview.
Mr. Ruge inquired about the City's plans for the property and how the City
gained the property. Ms. Stachowiak stated she wasn't sure and that Mr.
Sabty looked into purchasing the property from the City but for whatever
reason decided not to include it as part of his request. Ms. Stachowiak
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explained that there is a cell phone tower possibly located on the
triangular parcel portion to the north of the property.
Mr. Ruge stated that the report indicated the City sewers are not sufficient
to handle a development of this size. Ms. Stachowiak stated that this was
the statement that the Public Service Department had made regarding
Z-8-2001 and that the Public Service Department is currently still making
this comment. There was a general discussion on how resolve the
situation.
John Sabty, resident of 140 E. Second Street, Flint, stated that he was
representing the owner of the property who is based out of New York City.
Some of the concerns that were presented he has tried to address with
some of the studies that were required from the last proposal. He stated
that the storm sewer issue was readily resolvable because of an existing
storm drain and that an older storm drain is still located on the property.
He was under the understanding that the existing sanitary sewer system
has no capacity at all. He stated that there is a plan in process that the
department is working through to determine how it can deliver additional
capacity, not only for a development such as this, but for other
developments as well. He stated that depending on the zoning change
request, the company could not begin until the question about the
capacity issue had been addressed. He stated that the company is
currently incorporating a certain amount of density into their plan for a
future expansion of the sewer system that is required for that area. With
the traffic inpact study, he wasn't aware that another department had
requested additional information. Ms. Stachowiak stated that the
Transportation Department had not commented on anything.
Mr. Sabty stated that with the traffic flow on Willoughby Road and the way
the road is designed with the front yard setbacks and the gravel on the
sides of each road, there is probably room for expansion of the road in
and around the company's development. He stated at this point, the
company is trying to determine an acceptable level for density so the
company can move forward with a plan that would encompass acceptable
sewer, road, storm drainage, etc. The company is at a starting point and
cannot begin because there is not a level of density that has been
approved. He mentioned a site plan and wondered if a copy had been
give to the Board members. He stated the site plan was a general
concept of what the building would look like. The site plan does not show
elevations. He stated that these are not Army barracks type facilities that
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would be built and that these are common structures with what is going on
throughout the United States. These buildings are three stories with
balconies and pitched roofs and would have a colonial type look. He
stated that the company has tried to encompass the wetland areas in
order to make it an expansion of the existing park that the City owns. In
reference to the City's property, he stated that the property is Parcel B
and that it is a dedicated park that is owned by the City of Lansing. The
company's only interest with that property was to help preserve it as a
park because it would be a viable buffer zone between the single family
neighborhood and the company's property. One of the questions was to
trade some of the company's wetlands for the park. He stated that there
is a formula which is a 2-to-1 ratio where the company could purchase the
property, for every one of the company's acres it would be two of the
park's acres. He stated that the company could put money into the park
to help preserve it rather than having the park as an open space. He
stated that the company's interest is to leave the park as is and if
anything, maybe upgrade it so it would be more of a user friendly park for
the neighborhood and for the company's development.
Christine Timmon, resident of 339 E. St. Joseph Apt. #3, stated that
she is representing citizens who are concerned about the developers
coming into the City and the developments where the City of Lansing has
about 500 houses that are in a blight status but qualify for rehabilitation
under Public Act 27. This was recently done and signed by the Governor.
The original bill is House Bill 4028 and it states that all cities must rehab
all blighting properties whether red tagged or not in 42 days to 119 days.
She is concerned that when developers come into the City, they don't take
into consideration how they can really help. She stated that Mr. Sabty
needs to ride around Lansing and see all the houses he can get for a
song and a dance. There are a couple of properties on Lenawee Street,
505 W. Lenawee and the property next door. She stated that there is a
developer right now who is turning these blighted properties into two new
single family dwellings. While the developers come in and build new
developments, all the blighted properties continue to be ignored. She
stated it is her belief that under the new Public Act 27, if anyone is injured
on a blighted property and they haven't been notified by the City, the City
could be liable for it.
She questioned why developers won't try to help the City to fill in the
blanks with these blighted properties and turn them into one family units
rather than building apartments and multiple dwellings, leaving all the
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City's good housing go to waste. The government is now saying that if
you can prove that you have the ability to take care of a blighted property,
you can send a letter to the City of Lansing specifying a particular property
qualifies under Public Act 27 as a blighted property. If they don't want to
fix it within the 119 days then they must sell the property to whomever for
forfeit by eminent novae. She hopes Mr. Sabty will take it to heart and
find out where these properties are located and help the City reestablish
itself as a city with some single family dwellings.
Charlene Decker, resident of 2711 Pleasant Grove Road, stated that
she is concerned about the dedicated parcel of land that is a park owned
by the City of Lansing and the trading of park land. She stated that the
property is a dedicated park and that it would involve the residents of
Lansing. As a resident of many years, she chose Lansing because of the
beautiful green space, pass of space and water ways. She stated that the
parks are an essence of Lansing and that too many things go out as a
negative by people about this city. We do have beautiful parks and river
front and she wants these treated with great delicacy when you talk about
anything being put away that is dedicated.
Belinda Fitzpatrick, resident of 224 S. Holmes Street, stated that she
wore her shirt that reflects Stop Eminent Domain Abuse and that she
received the shirt from the Institute for Justice, which is a public interest
law firm in Washington, D.C. She stated that eminent domain forfeiture is
unconstitutional and a violation of the 5`h Amendment. She also would
prefer to see properties rehabilitated over land development. She stated
that when the developments occur, the City needs to evaluate whether or
not these developments will encourage the rehabilitation of other
properties. She is also concerned about the park land and the
compromise of the park land.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak on this matter, Mr. Frederick referred
Z-6-2002 to the next Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting to be held
on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 316 N. Capitol Avenue.
C. NCU-1-2002, 934 Clark Street, Request for Substitution and Class A
Status for a Nonconformity
This is a request by ARQ Inc. for a substitution of a nonconforming use
and Class A status for the property located at 934 Clark Street. The
applicant proposes to make approximately $50,000 in improvements to
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the subject building in order to change its use from a printing business to
an office that provides internet services. The subject property is currently
zoned "B" Residential and is nonconforming for parking and use.
Sue Stachowiak gave a brief overview.
Mr. Ruge stated that he visited the site and found a strange looking
building in a residential neighborhood. There was a general discussion
regarding the prior business activity of the building.
Mr. Ruge inquired about the nonconforming use and if granted, would
there be required buffering around the outside edge of the property. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that the Board could make the conditions of
improvements.
Mr. Ruge inquired about whether or not the vacant lot to the north of the
property was included. Ms. Stachowiak stated that the vacant lot it not
included in the request.
Dan Judd, 2875 Northwind Suite 205-D, stated that he is the owner of
ARQ, Incorporated. He stated that the empty lot next to the building had a
building on the property and was bought by the prior owner, Lansing
Lithographers, and that it was part of the sale. There was a house on the
property that at some point was condemned and then demolished a few
months ago. He stated that the company is not sure of the finalization of
the sale of the building so that it could be used as an office. The
company would like to have some green space or maybe expand to allow
for more parking. The company currently has five employees and at the
rate of adding one employee per year, the building may only allow up to
ten employees. At that time, the company may move to a larger facility or
make use of the other (telephone hubs) ???. As far as maintenance of
the building, the roof, chimney and interior plumbing are in disrepair, and
the offices would need some minor painting as well.
Mr. Ruge inquired about the use of computers in the building. Mr. Judd
clarified that there would be computers in the building and that the
company is very quiet. The company is a very low traffic business with
customers or web site designers visiting every couple of days. Currently
the company is doing off-site visits.
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Mr. Ruge inquired about an air conditioning system because of the
amount of computers being used in the building. Mr. Judd stated that
there are three air conditioning units in the building that are currently in
working order and that these units would be more than sufficient for the
company's needs.
Mr. Ruge inquired if the company would need a special type of telephone
system. Mr. Judd stated that a fiber DS-3 line would be added. He
stated that contact with Ameritech has already been established and that
Ameritech would have to pull the channel which is currently 1400 yards
from the access point. Ameritech has informed Mr. Judd that this would
not be a large undertaking. He stated that the company has a DS-3 line
at their current location.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak on this matter, Mr. Frederick referred
NCU-1-2002 to the next Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting to be
held on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 316 N. Capitol Avenue.
D. Ordinance Amendments, Front Yard Setbacks and Accessory
Structures
The front yard setbacks apply to all the residential districts except the
"DM-4" residential district. The "DM-4" residential district is the highest
density district and primarily involves high rise type developments. These
standards didn't apply to this district as they did to the other districts.
The accessory buildings and structures involves the larger lot sizes having
larger garage sizes in proportion to the lot.
Sue Stachowiak gave a brief overview.
Mr. Smith questioned the architectural compatibility requirement. He
stated that the additions should be compatible with architectural scale and
materials of the existing building and surrounding neighborhoods as
determined by the Planning Office. He questioned who would make the
final decision as to what is "architecturally compatible with surrounding
buildings." Mr. Ruff stated that with the idea of a compatible setback, the
Planning Office is looking at trying to maintain neighborhood appearance
in respect to style. There was a general discussion about the language
and final decisions of the setbacks.
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Mr. Frederick gave input on the Board of Zoning Appeals related
situations.
Christine Timmon, resident of 339 E. St. Joseph Apt. #3, stated that
she has worked with Mr. Ruff in the past on amendments, variances and
gravel driveways for some residents and not for others and that it sounds
arbitrary. She also stated that it sounds like the City is giving more leeway
towards the owners of the properties. She stated that Public Act 27
reflects that with these ordinances that you do, if the fines and fees on
them are what it causing the house to be in a blighted state or abandoned
because the owner cannot pay the fines and fees, then you cannot use
arbitrary decisions. She stated that Public Act 27 protects home owners
from arbitrary decisions. The City cannot arbitrarily continue to tell the
owners how to fix their property, add fines on the property that cannot be
paid and then have the house boarded. The only way the City can do this
is if a person builds their property and the City does not approve the
changes, the City will have to pay to have the property fixed.
Charlene Decker, resident of 2711 Pleasant Grove Road, stated that
she gets a little nervous when people start talking about compatibility,
conformity, and whether or not someone likes a natural fence. She likes
individuality. She stated her house is hers as long as it does not become
a danger to society. She also stated that there are enough complications
with the City's current ordinances and that these ordinances are being
turned into a criminal process. She considers the City's fines out of line
and stated that having one person make the ultimate decision does make
her nervous.
Belinda Fitzpatrick, resident of 224 S. Holmes Street, stated that it is
hard to balance the rights of an individual in the community verses the
rights of the community or rights of other individuals in the community.
Before the City resorts to using the law and the rule of law for fines, fees
and ordinances, the City should try to raise public appreciation regarding
the street scape and architecture. She stated that you can ruin a
neighborhood by not coordinating things and that the way to approach the
issue is not through the law but through increased awareness.
Beverly Miller, resident of 413 Pearl Street, questioned if accessary
garages and storage buildings must be consistent with principle structures
and color, architecture and materials, this would mean an owner could not
build a concrete garage or wooden structured home. She stated that the
garage and house would have to be in contrast with each other and that
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she wondered what happened for the City to go to this extreme. Mr.
Frederick commented that a number of applications were brought before
the Board of Zoning Appeals for variances and that this was the initiative
behind the modification of these ordinances. There was a general
discussion regarding the building structure and colors of homes. She
stated that her home is over one hundred years old and that it is Victorian
with gables. Her garage is very simple but does not match her house.
She stated that the City should be able to mix materials, color and
structures.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak on this matter, Mr. Frederick referred
the Ordinance Amendments to the next Zoning and Ordinance Committee
meeting to be held on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 316 N. Capitol
Avenue.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE
John Pollard, resident of 1718 Blair Street, stated that he is opposed to the
marketing and selling of the Thelma Osteen Comfort Street Station. He stated
that the Parks and Recreation Department did not realize that this property
belonged to them until the lease expired for the North Lansing Community
Association. He is a firm believer in the Charter that says no park, recreation,
cemetery or water front property will be sold without the vote of the people
whether the property is dedicated or designated. He stated that the Park Board
on February 20, 2002 voted 3-2 and stated that the Park Board violated the
Open Meeting Act because the Board denied the public the right to speak after
two people completed their verbal comments.
He stated that the Park Land Policy Resolution of December 10, 1979 created
the 1981 Inventory List and that the Land Policy Act explains the development,
disposal of and encroachment on park property. He stated that the object of any
such sale or transfer should be with the purpose of improving the park system of
the City of Lansing and not for the benefit of private development or interest.
Such proposed disposal should be reviewed by the Park Board, Planning Board
then with the recommendation to the Mayor to make sure it is at City Council
before they act on it. He stated the key here was not for the benefit of private
development and that this is his understanding of the Act 285 review. He
believes the North Lansing Community Association should have the first right of
refusal if the property is sold. This building was built in 1914-1916 and is one of
the few Georgian-American architectural styles left in the City of Lansing.
Between 1975 and 1979 the NLCA saved this building from demolition. The City
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of Lansing met with the NLCA and was able to have this building and other
buildings listed on the national register. Then the City of Lansing met with the
NLCA and applied for Federal CDBG money to renovate the building. In order
for the NLCA to keep receiving Federal Grant money, they had to agree to
assume all responsibility for costs of interior renovations to bring the building up
to code requirements, utility costs, maintenance repairs, liability and insurance
which have totaled over $50,000. He stated that the City of Lansing has not put
any money into the building since the date of purchase. He also stated that
people should be talking about the history of the building, the ordinances, Land
Policy Acts and how the City could keep this building. The NLCA has kept this
building. The Parks and Recreation Department cannot not afford to keep the
building and there is no staff for the building. He stated that the NLCA should be
given a long term lease and that if the property has to be sold, it should go to the
NLCA or it will go for the vote of the people.
Charlene Decker, resident of 2711 Pleasant Grove Road, stated that she had
been invited to the Comfort Station Christmas party and that it was the most
beautiful, simplistic and spiritual Christmas party. The gifts were purchased by
the North Lansing Community Association members who have kept the building
upgraded all these years. Those in the community in north Lansing contribute so
much not in words but in actions. The residents have made the community live
and breath and this is what the residents want. She stated that she has
problems with some of the neighborhood associations decreeing things that not
everyone in the community is able to vote on but one would think they had voted.
She loves the City of Lansing and she doesn't feel that she belongs on the
southwest side. She belongs to the whole of Lansing and so does everyone
else. The Comfort Station is very important to her and she is concerned about
whose hands it would be best kept. The NLCA has taken care of the building
year after year and has nurtured it and no one in the City has ever commented
on the work that had been done. The NLCA rehabilitated the building on their
own without asking the City for money. If anyone has decency, honesty and
integrity for Lansing, they would not take this building away from the NLCA
because the organization has earned the right to keep the building.
Brian Smith, resident of 1007 Woodbine, stated that he is the Chairman for
the group, Citizens for a Better Lansing and that this group has the City in the
Appeals Court over the Genesee Park case. He is also affiliated with the Home
Town Happenings TV Show that is on every Wednesday night, cable access,
Channel 16 from 10:30 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. He stated that tonight's Planning
Board meeting will be on aired on the station April 10, 2002 with the deliberations
regarding the Comfort Station issue. He urged the Planning Board to make the
right choice whether it is giving the North Lansing Community Association a long
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term lease of the building or sell it to them for $1.00. He wants the Planning
Board to reject the Act 285 Review because the Comfort Station property is a
dedicated park property and it cannot be sold without a vote of the people. He
was told by an Assistant City Attorney that the word "dedicated" means what the
Lansing Codified Ordinances says it means and that these are found on the
internet. He stated that "dedication" means the intentional appropriation of land
by the owner to public use and that the property was intentionally appropriating
the Comfort Station to public use. He read from the City Charter: "The most
significant changes specifically delineate the rolls and the authority of the Mayor,
the Council, the City Boards and City Departments assigned clear line through
accountability and responsibility to each and establish safe guards which
protects citizens against the misuse of authority." On the next page, he stated
that the citation is very clear and that "this proposed Charter requires a vote by
the people prior to the sale of any park, recreational, cemetery or river front
property, all other property purchased or sold by the City with an assessed value
$50, 000 or more will be subject to a public hearing prior to any purchase or
sale." He stated that the Act 285 review is a blatant misuse of City authority and
that under the Act 285 review process, he inquired about whether there are any
parks in the City of Lansing that would require a vote of the Electorate before
being sold. He stated that no one at the Parks Board could answer this question
and that he would appreciate it if someone from the Planning Board could
answer the question. He has followed this case since it originated in November
2001 and that he spent three hours in the library researching the history of the
Comfort Station from 1913-1968. At the Parks Board meeting on February 20,
2002 there was a 3-2 vote for the review and that the facilitator, Mr. Wilbur
Howard, did not participate in any votes until the motion was favorable for what
Mr. Jemerson and Mayor's Assistant Bob Johnson. Everything that was helpful
for the North Lansing Community Association was a 2-2 vote and Mr. Howard
totally abstained from voting. The NLCA has had the building for 20 years with
each lease being 5 years. He questioned why the Act 285 review now has to be
done and why was it not questioned in 1987, 1992 and 1997 when the NLCA
was given the 5 year leases. He stated that the NLCA is an example of an
association that has been self sufficient, paid the bills for the property, and now
are swept out on the streets. He encouraged the Planning Board Members to do
the right thing, whether it is leasing the building to the NLCA for a long term
lease or selling the property to them for $1.00. He asked the Planning Board
members to send the right and correct message to Mr. Jemerson, Mr. Johnson,
Mr. Howard and Mayor Hollister that the Planning Board does not believe in
violating the City Charter.
Belinda Fitzpatrick, resident of 224 S. Holmes Street, stated that there is a
sense of community in the neighborhood surrounding the Comfort Station
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property. She also attended the Christmas Party that was held at the Comfort
Station and that the spirit of the party and the energy of the building was
wonderful. She stated that the building should be for community use and that it
is a valuable asset to the community. She would prefer the City retain ownership
of the property and that community property is best owned by the City and made
available to the community. She stated that if the building would be sold, there
should be a right of first refusal given to the North Lansing Community
Association, and that the NLCA should have the right to purchase the property
before it is offered to others. Considering the amount of investments put into the
building by the NCLA and if the City were to sell the property, it would be unjust
enrichment. "Unjust enrichment" is a legal term meaning somebody put so much
work into something that they should be entitled to the fruit of their work, and if
the City sold the property, the proceeds from the property should go to the NLCA
to help them relocate. Even though there are other buildings, the Comfort
Station holds a sentimental value to the NCLA. The NCLA is in love with and
has a spiritual bond with the Comfort Station. The building holds a lot of
emotional implications and to sell the property would tear apart the bond of the
community.
She stated that she did extensive research regarding Public Act 285. She gave
an example of the case in Grand Rapids, Nash vs. Grand Rapids, where the
people depended on state laws because the Charter did not address the issues.
She stated that the state law says the City cannot sell a park without a vote of
the Electorate, except for where the park is not required to be a park by the
Master Plan. If the City relied on state law, a Master Plan review would be
initiated pursuant to Public Act 285. The Charter is very similar in language to
the State law. The beginning is the same stating, "A park property will not be
sold without a vote of the people" but does not reflect a requirement by the
Master Plan. She did extensive research at the City of Lansing Planning Office
where she reviewed the Master Plan and a copy of the map. Under the Master
Plan, she stated that there are no required parks in the City. Under the Public
Act 285 Review, she concluded that there are no parks in the City that would
require a vote of the Electorate before the property is sold because the City does
not have a category specifying "required parks." The Master Plan does not list a
requirement of"required parks." She encouraged the Board members not to sell
the property and stated that if they choose to place the property for sale, have
the property go before the vote of the Electorate.
Edward Simmer, resident of 4245 W. Jolly Road, stated that he was the
former Chairman of Citizens for a Better Lansing and that all the officers of the
organization are against the sale of the Comfort Station. He was the individual
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who started a petition drive, after Ms. Osteen passed away, to have the Comfort
Station named in her honor, and that over 500 people signed the petition before
she was taken to her grave site. He stated that this is abomination and that this
building contains a lot history. He was upset because the City wants to sell the
property and he doesn't understand why. He was also upset because when he
drove by the Comfort Station, the name on the building only reflected North
Lansing and not the North Lansing Community Center. He stated that the same
thing that happened to Genesee Park is happening to the Comfort Station and
that he was the one who filed the law suit for Genesee Park and will file the law
suit for the Comfort Station. He encouraged the Planning Board to do the right
thing and sell the building to the North Lansing Community Association for$1.00.
He stated that the NLCA should have the first opportunity.
Sherry Shaw, resident of 403 Beaver Street, stated that she is the daughter of
Ms. Thelma Osteen and that she has been a member of the North Lansing
Community Association. She does not want to see the building sold and asked
the Board to consider leasing the building to the NLCA. She stated that there
are future plans to do more with the building and she questioned why the City
wanted to do away with the rental property. The property will always be taken
care of and with a lease, the City will also have the option to do something
different with the building at a later time.
Amy Hodgen, owner of a business at 416 N. Cedar Street, stated that she
wanted to remind everyone who Thelma Osteen was, and that without Ms.
Osteen, the City would not have the Dodge Mansion. When the Dodge Mansion
was scheduled for demolition, Ms. Osteen single-handedly stood up and stopped
the demolition and had to pay a $250.00 fine for mansion not being demolished.
While Ms. Osteen was living, the Comfort Station flourished and provided
different types of information about decisions, legal aid, etc. to the neighbors.
She stated that the North Lansing Neighborhood Association is a beautiful group
and that the building is also beautiful. She is not in favor of selling the Comfort
Station. She stated that Ms. Osteen was a very sweet and powerful woman and
that if she were still alive, she would not be happy with what is happening to the
Comfort Station. Ms. Hodgen stated that all groups have disagreements and
that the Comfort Station belongs to the NLCA. She indicated that the building is
self-sufficient and that there are festivals and other events held at the Comfort
Station. She stated that there are future plans for the building, with one of the
plans including a club for the children. She hopes that the Board will remember
Ms. Osteen and everything she had represented. She stated that the Comfort
Station is one of the oldest buildings in the City, and that it would be a pity to sell
the property for profit. She is in favor of the building being leased to the NLCA
who will continue to maintain the building. She hopes that the Board will take the
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decision seriously because the Comfort Station is a beautiful building and the
neighborhood does deserve to have it.
Beverly Marsh, resident of 331 Harriet Avenue, stated that she is a daughter
of Ms. Osteen and that from the beginning the Comfort Station was always taken
care of. The North Lansing Community Association started the Thelma Osteen
Youth Group but she is not sure if the youth will want to continue on in the future.
She questioned the Board about a new lease for the NLCA and that the
association has paid the taxes and maintained the building. She feels the
property should go as a lease and not a sale, and that if the property is offered
for sale, the NLCA should have the first right of refusal. She stated that the
Board should consider all that her mother did for the organization and that the
building still looks very nice. She stated that the building looks even better since
it has been in the hands of the NLCA. She vowed that she would help take care
of the problems that are within or without, whether in a court of law or done as
human beings. The NLCA is about helping and caring for the community and
the neighborhood. She stated that she will not bend and do things wrong to
make someone happy and that the NLCA will go by rules and bylaws. There will
not be any more secret meetings and as long as there is breath in her, she will
be just like her mother. She wants peace and unity at the Comfort Station and
everyone working towards what her mother had built, an association to help the
people. She hopes the Board will take all this into consideration and that she
would like to see the NLCA and their belongings back at the Comfort Station and
fully functional.
Becky Weck, resident of 213 Douglas Avenue, stated that she is a daughter of
Ms. Osteen. She remembered attending the North Lansing Community
Association meetings with her dad when her mother was alive and that her
mother fought for what she thought was right. Her mother wanted to see the
north end of Lansing become a better place. She stated that she was at the
Comfort Station earlier. All the NLCA's belongings are out of the building, and
the association's name had been taken off the building. The NLCA has no place
to hold their meetings and that the building had been used in the past for
dinners, funerals, meetings, and Christmas parties which included Christmas
gifts for the less fortunate children. She wants the property referred to as the
Thelma Osteen Comfort Station as it was dedicated to her mother in her honor.
She remembered her mother walking the streets and pounding on doors. She
stated that the Comfort Station is a gathering place for the community in the
north end of the City and that the building should be kept in tact. She was
frustrated because the NLCA had to hold their meeting outside the building on
the streets.
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Beverly Miller, resident of 413 Pearl Street, stated that the North Lansing
Community Association would like to purchase the property for a nominal sum of
$1.00 and that the NLCA did meet the requirements for the 1980 Federal Grant
that was secured to help rehabilitate the property. The NLCA agreed to pay all
the costs that were not covered by the Federal Grant to bring the building up to
code, and they paid for all interior renovations. From 1980 to present, the
property has increased in value from $6,000 to $75, 000 according the City's
survey. Every lease the NLCA has had with the City stated that the NCLA is to
be responsible and pay all the utilities, maintenance, repairs and insurance. The
NLCA has paid all the expenses without the help of grant and city subsidy
monies. The NLCA is a volunteer group with no paid staff. Every lease has also
stated that the property is intended to be cost free to the City of Lansing and to
her knowledge, the City has expended no funds. She stated that Mr. Emil
Winnicker (City of Lansing, Development Office ) explained to Ms. Miller that
over the last 22 years, $3,000 had been spent on the building while the NLCA
had leased the property. The NLCA occupied, maintained and improved this
property from 1980 to March 2002 and on March 7, 2002, received a notice
stating they had to find new space for their personal property and turn in all keys
by March 28, 2002. There was misinformation about the NLCA not having to
vacate the building and at a Committee of the Whole meeting on March 7, 2002
where Mr. Johnson, Chief of Staff, clearly stated that the NLCA had to move all
their personal property and turn in the keys by March 28, 2002. She questioned
the Board about the sale of the building. Mr. Ruff stated this is just an evaluation
as to whether or not to sell the property and that this is not a decision to put the
property up for sale. Mr. Ruff also stated that this is the information gathering.
Ms. Miller stated that once the building is offered for sale and if the Board's
recommendations go to the City Council, the City Council has to have a 2/3 vote
in order to sell the property. The vote will not reflect where the building will go or
whether or not the NLCA will be able to acquire the property. She questioned
whether the property would be acquired by the Parks Department and if so,
would the Parks Department lease the property to NLCA. She stated that if the
building was going to be leased, it would have been leased to the NLCA by now.
She stated that the Board's recommendations would make the difference as to
whether or not the NLCA would be able to acquire the property.
Christine Timmon, resident of 339 E. St. Joseph Apt. #3, stated that she has
attended most of the meetings regarding the Comfort Station and that the North
Lansing Community Association has moved all their belongings out of the
building. She feels the City has its own plan for the property and that there is
nothing anyone can do or say that will stop the City from doing what they want to
do. She suggested to the citizens of Lansing to do the best they can and not
spend a whole lot of money in attorney fees because once they have paid the
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fees they have already lost. She stated that these little issues can be handled
and that it would only cost a person $30 to file a case in Circuit Court. Then the
case would be held up for 3-5 years in court. She does not foresee the City
returning the property to the NLCA and that there are a lot of blighted buildings in
the City. She stated that the City may have to help the NLCA rehabilitate an old
building if the NLCA could put out a certain amount of money.
Ben Genns, resident of 1401 Center Street, stated that he has lived at this
address his whole life and that he had grown up with the North Lansing
Community Association in this area. Some of his earliest memories of Christmas
were parties at the Comfort Station. On Monday, April 1, 2002, he was with his
dad helping to move the last of the NLCA's belongings out of the Comfort
Station. Looking at the empty hall, he remembered people visiting with one
another and enjoying themselves not realizing that later they would leave and
never see each other again. He stated that the NLCA has done more for this
area than anyone else and that even though they did not produce numbers, the
NLCA had an affect on the community. He asked the Board to do the NLCA a
favor and give them the property.
Seeing no one else wishing to address the Board, Mr. Frederick closed the
public comment period.
6. RECESS was taken by the Board.
7. BUSINESS SESSION
Mr. Frederick stated for the record that Ms. Foster arrived at 7:10 p.m. after role
was taken and that she will be present for the duration of the meeting.
A. Ms. Keene moved; seconded by Mr. Smith to approve the minutes of
March 19, 2002 without corrections. On a voice vote, motion carried (6-0),
the minutes of March 19, 2002 were
APPROVED.
B. Committee Reports
1. ZONING AND ORDINANCE COMMITTEE, Mr. Ruge, Chair
Next meeting, Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
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2. URBAN DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, Ms. Patrick, Chair
a. Act-27-2001, 313 E. Grand River Ave., Comfort Station,
Market for Sale
This is a request to consider whether the City should market
the property for sale, or retain ownership. It is not to consider
a specific offer to purchase the building. The application
itself was submitted by the Development Office on behalf of
the City. This Act 285 Review is a fact-finding report and
investigation to help determine whether or not the City
should continue owning the building. Information was
gathered from the various agencies and departments of the
City to determine any possible interest in the structure and
comments from the public at the public hearing held by the
Planning Board. Since the lease of the building by NLCA
expired on 12-31-01, the Department of Parks and
Recreation has requested that the Act 285 Review be
conducted to market the property for sale and is
recommending that the City dispose of the property by
getting it out of public ownership.
The property is zoned "F-1" Commercial Zoning District
which allows for a variety of uses, including office and
commercial use. A "private club, fraternal organization or
lodge hall" is also included in the various "principal uses"
permitted in the zoning district. The types of uses that are
possible in the "F-1" District are attached. The building is
located on a relatively small parcel with the building taking
up most of the property. On-site parking is therefore not
available. A public alley exists along the north side of the
building. A public parking lot, available at Grand River and
Turner Street, provides plenty of parking for this commercial
district. The site includes equipment behind the Comfort
Station which is used under license by Sharp Technology for
a radio system and antennae to control the storm water
system for that area. This license for such equipment
nominal fee will have to continue on with any possible sale
of this property.
The two-story building is located within the North Lansing
Historic Commercial District on the National Register of
Historic Places. Such a designation does not protect the
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building from demolition, but does afford it some tax
incentives for rehabilitation through preservation tax credits.
A public hearing was held by the Lansing Planning Board on
11/20/01 at which eleven members of the public spoke. The
Parks Board took its action on 2/20/02 "to support the (Parks
& Rec) staff's recommendation to continue to proceed with
the Department of Planning and Neighborhood
Development's Act 285 review for the sale of the Comfort
Station."
Staff recommends approval of Act-27-01, the marketing for
sale of the Comfort Station at 313 E. Grand River Avenue,
zoned "F-1" Commercial with the understanding that:
a. The building be sold to community group or groups
for broad based community use, reserving historic
facade easements in perpetuity, and a reverter clause
to ensure that community use will continue with the
building.
b. The City should manage the property for community
use until time of sale.
C. The license for Sharp Technologies' equipment will
need to be accommodated in any transaction
regarding the property.
Staff also suggests that the name of the building remain as
"Thelma Joyce Osteen Comfort Station" as designated by
City Council Resolution.
In Committee it was moved, seconded and carried
unanimously (3-0) to recommend approval of Act-27-01,
313 E. Grand River Ave., Comfort Station, Market for Sale.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Ms. Patrick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to recommend approval of
Act-27-01, 313 E. Grand River Ave., Comfort Station, Market for Sale with
conditions.
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There was a general discussion regarding the Comfort Station being open for public
use and the recommendation of a possible reverter clause to ensure that community
use occurs with the conditions thereunder.
Mr. Ruge stated that the North Lansing Community Association managed and occupied
the Comfort Station for more than 20 years and questioned why there was no
recommendation to sell the property to the NLCA for their continued use. There was a
general discussion regarding the possible sale of the building and the community use of
the building.
There was a general discussion regarding the City's liability for the Comfort Station.
Mr. Phil Dorland, Deputy Director of Parks and Recreation, gave a brief overview of
which parks are staffed. He stated that the director of Parks and Recreation is taking
the position that he does not want to pull the Comfort Station back into the City's
budgetary process and have to maintain or provide paid staff for the building. Ms.
Foster inquired about the leasing of park property, and the liability issue. There was a
general discussion about the City's involvement in maintaining the Comfort Station.
A general discussion ensued about the distribution of the City's community centers and
if there was a center located near the Comfort Station to help fulfill the needs of the
community. Mr. Dorland stated that Gyer Park and the Turner-Dodge house are
nearby.
Mr. Ruge inquired about why the Parks and Recreation Department wants to divest
themselves of the Comfort Station property. He would feel more comfortable if the City
would have a plan in place to keep the property for community use before action would
be taken by the Board.
Ms. Foster asked if the liability and the burden of the Comfort Station were lifted off the
City, would the Committee feel the same.
Mr. Smith felt that as a Board they were being asked to provide an instrument for what
appears to him to be, on a personal level, a political issue. He stated that he doesn't
know all the history except for what was said tonight. The facts that were presented to
the Board appear to be a landlord/tenant type of situation. The lease has expired and
the landlord has chosen not to renew the lease, which is the landlord's prerogative.
Notwithstanding the efforts that the North Lansing Community Association has put into
the Comfort Station and without having detailed information about what really and truly
is motivating this request, the Board can only act based on the facts presented to the
Board. From a legal point of view, if the City does not want to renew the lease, there is
not a law that forces the City to renew the lease. Morally, maybe there is an obligation.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 2, 2002, Page 21
Ms. Keene stated that based on the fact that the Board does have additional
information tonight which was not presented at the Committee meeting, and that
because a number of Board members have questions, she moves to table Act-27-01.
Ms. Keene made a motion, seconded by Mr. Ruge to table Act-27-01, 313 E. Grand
River Ave., Comfort Station, Market for Sale.
On a voice vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
TABLED.
b. Act-6-2002, SE Corner of Allegan & Townsend, Removal
of Two BWL Easements
The applicant, Boji Group L.L.C., requests that the City
vacate two BWL easements to facilitate a proposed new
office building and parking deck project. The two easements
were for electric, water and steam facilities serving the
Accident Fund of Michigan at 232 S. Capitol Avenue and
former YWCA building at 217 Townsend Street (see
attached graphics for specific locations). The YWCA was
established in 1927. The building was demolished in
December 2000.
An Act 285 is required to vacate the easements for the
parcels described in the attachments, with final action by
City Council.
According to Public Service, the vacation of the two BWL
easements will have no impact on their services.
City Council held a public hearing on April 16, 2001 for a
Special Land Use Permit (SLU-2-01) to construct an off-
street parking lot at 217 Townsend Street in the "G-1"
Business District. SLU-2-01 was approved.
The steam line in the ROW would interfere with a zero lot
line (permitted in the "G-1" Business District).
The location of the proposed vacations of the two BWL
easements will not affect service by other utilities. The
character of the area and future land use designation is a
mixture of commercial, office and parking use and will not
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change as a result of this proposal. No significant impact on
vehicular or pedestrian circulation is anticipated. Also, there
will be no anticipated impact on the environment associated
with the vacations of the two BWL easements. The location,
character and extent are reasonable.
Staff recommends approval of Act-6-02, with the vacations
of the BWL easements at the SE corner of Allegan &
Townsend Streets, contingent upon approval by
resolution(s) of the Board of Water and Light
Commissioners.
In Committee it was moved, seconded and carried
unanimously (3-0) to recommend approval of Act-6-02, SE
Corner of Allegan & Townsend, Removal of Two BWL
Easements.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Ms. Patrick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to recommend approval of
Act-6-2002, SE Corner of Allegan & Townsend, Removal of Two BWL Easements.
Frederick . . Ave Foster. . . Ave
Keene . .Ave Patrick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye
Smith. . .Ave Ruge . .Aye
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED.
Next meeting, Tuesday, April 23, 2002, at 6:00 p.m.
Council Chambers, 10'h Floor, City Hall, 124 W. Michigan Ave.
3. Committee of the Whole - None.
4. Executive Committee - None.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 2, 2002, Page 23
C. REPORT FROM PLANNING MANAGER
1. Commissioner Training Workshops for the Historic District
Commission.
2. On April 16, 2002 there will be a hearing for consideration of the
Wolverine Pipe Line application, referred to the Planning Board by
the City Council. The Board chose to have a special meeting at
7:00 p.m. on April 23, 2002 after the 6:00 p.m. Urban Development
Committee meeting.
D. PENDING ITEMS (future action required)
1. Zonina and Ordinance Committee
a. - -98, 1223 N.Tu—r—n—e—FSt., "H"Light Industrial District to"G-1" Business District
Tabled February 11 1998))
b. -5-98,401-407 E. brand fiver,"F"Commercial District to"G-1" Business
District Tabled June 10, 1998)
C. Z-8-200 , 3901 S. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.,"F"Commercial to"H"Light
Industrial District(Tabled June 14, 2000)
d. Z-15-2000, 301 W. Lenawee Street, Professional Office to"G-1"Business
District(Tabled January 17,2001
e. P-1-2001,Tentative Preliminary lat,Wexford Woods (Tabled June 13, May 9,
2001)
f. PRD-2-01,"Crystal Woods", Planned Residential Neighborhood (Tabled August
15, 2001)
g. SLU-6-0 , 517-519 E. Grand River Ave., Church in"F-1"Commercial District
(Tabled November 14,2001)
h. SLU-8-01, 3000 W. Miller Road,Additional Parking for an Existing Church
(Tabled November 14,2001)
i. SLU-1-2002 1400 Block,W. Jolly Road, Special Land Use Permit- New Church
2. Urban Development committee
a. Act-9-2000,201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj. Sign Over ROW (Tabled June 27,
2000)
b. Act-27-01, 313 E. Grand River Ave. (Comfort Station), Market for Sale (Tabled
November 27,2001)
C. Act-2-02, Lansing Housing Commission Property, 310 Seymour,Acquisition for
public purposes (Tabled February 26, 2002)
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planninq Board
8. NEW BUSINESS
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Ms. Foster inquired about tabling the Comfort Station and stated that she would
like to visit the property. Mr. Ruff stated the building is locked and the keys are
with the Parks and Recreation Department.
Mr. Ruge inquired about what criteria the Commission used in their ruling on the
denial of the pipeline through Meridian Township. Mr. Ruff stated that he has a
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copy of the Public Service Commission's staff report for the pipeline, and that the
report was later withdrawn. Mr. Ruff had requested information regarding the
discussion of the withdrawal but was denied the information. He is now
exploring other options for obtaining the information.
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 10:01 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
PB Minutes.040202.wpd
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES
CITY OF LANSING
POLICE & FIRE RETIREMENT SYSTEM
Regular Meeting May 14, 2002
Council Conference Room Tuesday, 8:30 a.m.
10th Floor City Hall
Lansing, MI
The Board met in regular session and was called to order at 8:50 a.m.
Present: Trustees Cochran, Hollister, Johnson, Luzynski, Rhode - 5
Absent: Trustees Holliday and Lankheet
Others: Gary Gustafson, Doug Rubley, Finance Department; Jack Jordan, Law Department
It was moved by Trustee Hollister and supported by Trustee Cochran to approve the minutes of the
regular meeting of April 16, 2002.
Adopted by the following vote: Unanimously.
The Secretary reported: 15 (Fire) new member(s) 0 reinstatement(s), 2 refund(s) 0 transfers, 1
retired. Total active membership: 492. Refunds made since the last regular meeting amounted to
4,399.37. Retirement allowances paid for the month of April 2002 amounted to $1,328,087.72.
1 death. Total retirement checks printed for the P&F System: 568. Total retirement checks printed
for all systems: 1,223. Domestic relations orders received: 0. Domestic relations orders pending:
1. Eligible domestic relations orders certified: .
It was moved by Trustee Hollister and supported by Trustee Rhode to approve the 2002
Investment Policy.
It was Approved Unanimously
Mr. Rubley handed out the Investment Report for April.
The meeting adjourned at 9:35 a.m.
I \,
Minut approved onvUi' e 2d 2ooZ RobertW. Swans
on, Secretary
Police & Fire Retirement System
Paul Luzynski, irp s n
Draft to Clerk April 26,2002
Approved May 21,2002
To Clerk May 23,2002
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, April 16, 2002
1. OPENING SESSION
The meeting was called to order at 7:06 p.m. by Chairman Frederick.
A. Roll call. Present: Frederick, Foster, Keene, Patrick, Smith, Ruge.
B. Staff Attending: Ruff, Rieske, Hodges.
C. Excused absence: Ms. Cordill.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
It was moved by Mr. Smith, supported by Ms. Keene to approve the revised
agenda. On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (5-0).
3. COMMUNICATIONS
A. Email from Alisande Henry stating Mayor Hollister would not be able to
attend the Planning Board meeting.
B. Letter from Gilbert and Rebecca Ledesma opposing the Wolverine
Pipeline.
C. Letter from Kathy "K.P." Pelleran opposing the Wolverine Pipeline.
D. Email from Raymond Hill regarding a Wolverine Pipe Line spill in June of
2000.
Mr. Frederick stated for the record that Mr. Ruge arrived at 7:10 p.m. after role
was taken and that he will be present for the duration of the meeting.
Ms. Patrick mentioned an informal communication from the Old Everett
Neighborhood Organization that takes the position of opposition for the
Wolverine Pipeline and that the organization could not send a representative
because of meeting conflicts.
4. HEARINGS
A. Act-7-2002, Gasoline Pipeline in 1-96 Right-of-Way, Wolverine Pipe
Line Company
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Wolverine Pipe Line Co. is requesting to locate a gasoline pipe line in the
1-96 right of way in the City of Lansing.
The purpose of the pipeline is for the transportation of gasoline products.
Since such products are highly toxic and flammable, a break in the
pipeline could result in the release of a large volume of toxic liquid.
Although a significant leak may be relatively remote, such situations do
occur. The potential consequences of a pipeline break could be of such
magnitude that their placement in proximity to developed lands and other
high consequence areas would be inconsistent with sound planning
practices and the policies advanced in the City's comprehensive plans.
Correspondingly, location considerations for such a request involve the
nature and function of neighboring land uses, the potential consequences
of a pipeline on these uses, and the available alternatives to this location.
The neighboring land uses along the route are largely developed,
consisting of residential developments of varying density, as well as
commercial and office uses. Much of the land that remains undeveloped
reflects areas of environmental significance and sensitive areas that are
critical to the regions supply of drinking water. The proposed route goes
through the 'Mason Esker', the longest underground glacial river bed in
Michigan. This esker is the principle source drinking water for the region
and contaminants run very quickly through such deposits. Drinking water
concerns also include: the route cutting across established well head
protection zones, being in proximity to the Board of Water and Light's
Wise Road Conditioning Plant, including a 5 million gallon reservoir of
drinking water which represents one third of the water supply capacity for
the region; 10 of BWL production wells are within a quarter-mile of the
pipeline route and another 13 within the well head protection area that
could be impacted by the route.
Continuation of the existing development pattern is supported by the
City's Comprehensive Plans. The plans do not recognize or recommend
the 1-96 r/w as a utility corridor. Much of the area surrounding the Lansing
urbanized area remains undeveloped, offering ample opportunities for
locating the pipeline through undeveloped areas. Two routes were
identified by a real estate appraiser, Charles Green. Four alternates were
considered acceptable by the Public Service Commission.
Until all reasonable alternatives have been exhausted the public's safety
and welfare can be protected to the City's satisfaction, the location
proposed for the pipeline is considered to be incompatible with the
existing land use pattern, the future pattern being advance in the
Comprehensive Plans, and sound planning practices in general.
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With respect to character, the proposed route is in close proximity to a
range of developments and other high consequence areas. It also is a
route reflecting areas of high minority concentrations. The
disproportionate placement of minorities at risk to a potential
environmental hazard threat raises concerns of environment justice.
Given the composition of the adjoining land uses and population, the
request is considered to be inconsistent with the general character of the
neighboring area.
With respect to the 'extent' of the proposal, the size and design of the
pipeline would appear consistent with its intended use and a facility of
lessor size would not result in a disproportionate reduction in it's potential
impacts.
Based on the findings detailed in sections above, the proposal is
considered inconsistent with the location and character of the surrounding
area, the land use pattern being advanced in the comprehensive plans,
and sound planning practices. It is, therefore, suggested that the
Planning Board recommend that the request be denied.
John Hodges gave a brief overview.
Mr. Ruff gave a brief clarification regarding the area of the pipeline that
the Board is reviewing and the information provided by Wolverine
Pipeline.
Leslie Cole, Vice President and General Manager Wolverine Pipe
Line, Portage, Michigan. As Mr. Ruff described, they have made
application with the Michigan Public Service Commission to own, operate
and maintain a pipeline. A portion of that pipeline route that they have
asked for a permit does cross through the City of Lansing. It is a very
long pipeline. Some of the shortest distances that cross through any
municipality is through the City of Lansing. They have asked that the
route be along interstate 96 as it goes around the South and West sides
of Lansing. In the MPSC Staff's testimony, as you will find evidence in the
records. They say that there is no such thing as a perfect pipeline route,
but that this particular route is as good as it gets. The reason that it is as
good as it gets because it is a freeway corridor. It is a transportation
corridor. A pipeline is a transportation facility. The corridor is also
isolated and fenced. It has minimal easements in it and contractors that
do work within the corridor must contact MDOT for permission to do work
in that right of way. Because it is a isolated, fenced and controlled
corridor and because contractors must have MDOT's permission, it
reduces the likelihood of third party damage, which is the leading cost of
pipeline failures. The route utilizes existing highway corridors for almost
the entire length. This in turn minimizes impacts to residences and
businesses. Environmental damage will be minimized because the areas
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along the 1-96 right of way have previously been disturbed in order to
accommodate the highway itself. Using the highway right of way
eliminates the need to take land away from other uses. The proposed
pipeline will be constructed with state of the art technology. Industry
experts as well as the Office of Pipeline Safety have determined that the
pipeline will be constructed and operated in a safe manner. The presence
of a pipeline will not negatively inhibit development, particularly because
the pipeline will be located in a highway right of way where development
will not be occurring. Also, Meridian Township and East Lansing are a
perfect example of how a community can flourish even with the presence
of a pipeline. Experts, including the City of Lansing's, Mr. Hansel, have
concluded that in the unlikely event of a pipeline incident, the City's water
supply would not be affected. He would appreciate the Board's
consideration in recommending that the City of Lansing grant its consent
to this project and he would like to answer any questions.
Mr. Ruge asked why they withdrew their application to have the pipeline
follow its original route?
Mr. Cole said the original route of the pipeline, which is 65 years old, has
suffered from what they would consider to be encroachments. That is
basically development within a very close proximity to the pipeline.
Because of the encroachments, which were schools, apartment buildings,
residential property, business property, a post office, the Meridian Mall.
Because of the encroachment of areas like this, the Michigan Public
Service Commission could not recommend that old route as a good
location for a new route. Looking at these encroachments and the
difficulty that would exist in constructing the new pipeline within that highly
congested route and looking at the fact that there is not a highly
congested area along 1-96 as it goes south and west of Lansing.
Wolverine Pipeline Company decided that it would be better to withdraw
the portion of their application that was north of 1-96 all the way up to St.
Johns Township and reapply for a permit utilizing the 1-96 corridor.
Mr. Ruge said that there were more residences and businesses by the
pipeline there than if it went through on 1-96.
Mr. Cole said that there is an order of magnitude greater number of
residential homes, apartment complexes and business development along
that existing corridor than there will be along the 1-96 corridor.
Mr. Ruge asked what it meant when he said in order of magnitude?
Mr. Cole said what it means is, there were locations where the pipeline
would have run down the middle of a residential street. There were three
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locations where the pipeline would run in between the buildings of
apartment complexes. There were two schools where the pipeline would
have crossed the school grounds and in one of those, the current pipeline
crosses underneath the schools playground equipment. It runs around
the perimeter drive of the Meridian Mall. It runs through the parking lot of
the Meridian Post Office. They would actually need pictures of that
current route to get a good understanding of what he is talking about.
With regard to distances from residential property to the pipeline, the
distances that they will find along the 1-96 proposed route are much
greater than the majority of the distances that they would have found
along the route as it went through Okemos, Meridian and East Lansing.
Mr. Ruge asked if it was true that despite the fact that the pipeline was
there they decided to build their businesses and houses next to it.
Mr. Cole said that is true which is another good reason for using 1-96.
Because business development, residential development, any type of
development other than transportation infrastructure will not be allowed in
that corridor.
Ms. Keene asked who will benefit as a result of the placement of the
pipeline through the City of Lansing?
Mr. Cole said in this particular area the City of Lansing is the biggest
beneficiary, but also the central Michigan area is another big beneficiary
of this pipeline system. Towns like Mt. Pleasant, Bay City, Midland,
Saginaw and all of the 29 counties that make up the central Michigan area
will be beneficiaries of the pipeline.
Ms. Keene said when you say the City of Lansing, you are including
Meridian Township and all the local here?
Mr. Cole said yes, the distribution terminal that currently services the
greater Lansing area, which is several counties in radius around that
distribution terminal is located off the Grand River Avenue to the north and
west side of the City of Lansing, west of the City's airport. That is where
this current pipeline will end and will connect to an existing pipeline that
then carries product to a distribution terminal in Bay City. The two
distribution terminals are what will serve central Michigan. So, they can
say that Meridian Township is benefitted, East Lansing is benefitted,
Okemos is benefitted, Delta Township is benefitted, but the City of
Lansing has the largest number of residences in this area in one
municipal unit so he would say that the City of Lansing is as big a
beneficiary of anyone in the area of Lansing proper.
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Ms. Keene said he answered her question, but she wanted to clarify that
while Lansing will benefit, it is also in her view carrying a burden for the
complete mid Michigan area.
Mr. Cole said he would not agree that it would be carrying the burden.
When they look at the number of miles that the pipeline traverses through
communities in this area, the fewest number of miles in any municipality
with the exception of probably Watertown Township is Lansing itself.
Ms. Keene asked if he is saying that Meridian Township and Okemos
areas have more pipeline going through them than what will run through
the City of Lansing?
Mr. Cole said no, he is saying that the townships that border interstate 96
as it goes south and west of Lansing are the townships that will be
crossed by the pipeline. They are the townships that are crossed by the
Interstate highway and if they measure the distance that the pipeline or
the highway traverses through those townships, they will find that the
distance is longer than the distance that passes through Lansing.
Ms. Keene said what about those townships east of Lansing, such as
Meridan?
Mr. Cole said there are townships west that also benefit and it is not
passing through the townships west or east. It goes around the south and
west edge of Lansing. It can benefit people in Charlotte, but it does not
cross through Charlotte.
Ms. Keene said her concern is that the citizens of Lansing appear to be
feeling that the City of Lansing is being asked to assume the burden of
having this pipeline, when all these other locations, such as Meridian
Township are going to have only the benefit, while they carry the burden.
That is a concern that she has.
Mr. Cole said in his view she does not have to be concerned about that
because it is not a burden. It crosses through the City of Lansing, while in
the corridor of an Interstate highway so it does not impact anybody's
private property or any property that the City of Lansing currently zones
for other uses.
Ms. Keene said what she is talking about the burden, she is thinking about
things that the anxiety, for example, that the residents will suffer because
they are more closely exposed to the possibility of something happening
like what occurred down in Blackman Township. That is what she is
talking about. The thing that Meridian Township will avoid.
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Mr. Cole said they all mentioned Mr. Hill who lives in Blackman Township.
Also contained in that record is testimony from the Blackman Township
Supervisor who testified for the MPSC that Wolverine Pipeline Company
is a very good corporate citizen and it fully cooperates with all government
agencies, all interested parties in its response to incidents. While they
don't plan to have incidents, they stay ready to respond to incidents so
that people who do live near the pipeline don't have to be burdened with
worry of what might happen because they are fully capable of working any
response activity to the point that no one living near the pipeline is in
danger because of any incident that the pipeline could possibly have. If
they would also remember the fact that this is a brand new pipeline and so
the likelihood it having an incident is very remote when they compare it to
a pipeline that was built in 1953 like the one through Blackman Township.
Also understand the current regulatory structure in regard to pipelines they
would know that regulations were just passed that requires pipeline
companies to have an integrity management program. This program will
severely lessen the likelihood of any incident with regard to a brand new
constructed pipeline built in the year 2002.
Ms. Keene asked why they withdrew the proposal in Meridian Township.
How did that come about?
Mr. Cole said in the original permit application they asked for a route from
Jackson, Blackman Township, to Stockridge Township and from
Stockridge Township to St. Johns Township. The route from Jackson to
Stockbridge was a new route, one where they did not currently have a
pipeline. The route from Stockbridge to St. Johns was following the
existing pipeline. They had just recently purchased that pipeline. The
easements associated with the ownership of the pipeline is one of the
most valuable assets associated with owning the pipeline. Since they had
just purchased it, they elected to attempt to use that newly acquired asset
by laying a brand new pipeline next to the old pipeline to replace the old
pipeline. The administrative law judge that was hearing that particular
case recommended to the Michigan Public Service Commission that they
deny the permit. Prior to the Michigan Public Service Commission
actually hearing the case, they withdrew the portion that was a concern to
the administrative law judge and that was the portion that existed between
1-96 and 1-69. As a result of withdrawing that piece they were granted a
permit for the piece from Blackman Township, the pipeline has been
constructed, and they were granted the permit for the piece from
Stockbridge to 1-96. That particular part of the line has not been
constructed because they also agreed with the MPSC Staff that they
would not construct it until they had a completed route to the Marathon
Ashland Petroleum Terminal on the west side of Lansing. So, what they
have today is a 20 mile new pipeline with some refurbished tanks at
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Stockbridge and a new pump station in Stockbridge that is continuing to
pump gasoline down a 65 year old pipeline.
Ms. Foster said continuing with that question, why where they going to
reject that permit.
Mr. Cole said because of the highly congested nature of Okemos,
Meridian and East Lansing. The route through that area is much more
highly congested than anything along 1-96. Plus going through that highly
congested area they would have done so by easement, which means that
they would not have the protection afforded by being in a corridor like 1-96
where excavation work is limited.
Mr. Ruge asked if they were to refurbish the old 65 year old pipeline, the
same size pipe as it is, could they continue to use their current easement?
Mr. Cole said they could continue to use their current pipeline as it is. It's
current operating pressure is 800 psi and they can not refurbish it to the
point where they can raise the operating pressure to a level necessary to
meet the demands of central Michigan because the permit that enabled
that pipeline to be built does not allow it to be modified in that manner.
Mr. Ruge said they can pump the same amount of gas through that line,
but they could not pump any more.
Mr. Cole said approximately half of what they are trying to replace.
Mr. Ruge said should they approve their request, would they be willing to
hire a private consultant along with the City to monitor the work on the
pipeline in general?
Mr. Cole said Wolverine Pipeline inspects the construction of a pipeline
facility. The Office of Pipeline Safety also inspects the construction of a
pipeline such as this. The Office of Pipeline Safety might not be there
daily. If the City of Lansing feels that it would be necessary in order to
grant consent for the project that it have a full time inspector to watch the
construction activities that occurred within the City of Lansing, Wolverine
Pipeline would be happy to accommodate that and would be happy to
work with the City of Lansing so that they could find reputable persons to
do that work that were not in any way affiliated with Wolverine Pipeline.
Mr. Ruge said he thinks that one of the big concerns is not just the
construction but ongoing inspections to ensure that there is not some kind
of a leak, especially that goes on undetected.
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Mr. Cole said that they have agreed to put in 6 or 7 valves along this
corridor as it comes into 1-96 and crosses around the city. The purpose of
those 6 valves is to drastically reduce any amount of gasoline that could
leak from the pipeline in the event there was an incident with the pipeline.
Those 6 valves will be remotely operated that will be capable of being
manually operated on site and in addition to the valves they are planning
to install pressure and temperature sensors at each location so that every
time the pipeline is shut down, they can close those valves using the
pressure and temperature sensors to run a pressure test during that down
time. If they combine that with cathodic protection and that they run an
internal inspection tool every 5 years, it would be almost impossible for a
leak to develop that they could not detect prior to the leak losing enough
gasoline to impact any of the city's water wells.
Mr. Ruge said he is saying it is not necessary for some outside person
to...
Mr. Cole said he is just describing what they would do. If they look at
what is absolutely necessary, what he described as overkill, but they are
doing this to make people understand that they plan to operate a safe
pipeline and they don't have to be afraid of it. If the City of Lansing would
like to review such inspections on a periodic basis they would be happy to
allow to do so.
Mr. Smith said Mr. Cole earlier referenced a Mr. Hensel from the Board of
Water and Light. To be clear is he referring to the Mr. Hensel who is the
geologist from Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
Mr. Cole said he referred to him as an expert witness for the City of
Lansing, which is what he was.
Mr. Smith said the reason he asks is because first off on the Executive
Summary that was presented to the MPSC on page 50 is a statement that
says potential long term impacts from larger petroleum spills may occur
due to valve or pipeline failures during pipe operations. So, this is
something that they anticipate happening?
Mr. Cole said no they do not anticipate it.
Mr. Smith said it does say in the report that is even foreseeable. Remote
though it might be it does use the word foreseeable. Mr. Hensel, there is
a statement they have from the Board of Water and Light, has confirmed
that the area through which the pipeline is proposed. . . It says, "in
addition the proposed pipeline route passes through their southwest
wellfield, the Stifel Well Field Wellhead Protection Area that has no
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protective layer at all." So, were there to be a leak, whether it was
catastrophic leak or minor there is very little there to prevent it from going
into the aquifer and possibly contaminating the water supply of which
much of the water for Lansing does then come from underground water.
From the Saginaw Aquifer. So what he is wondering now is even though
he has assured them that it would be safe, there are some pretty
frightening statistics here. For example it says for a non-catastrophic
failure such as an undetected leak is an even greater concern than a
sudden catastrophic line failure. Any automated control system has limited
sensitivity to leaks. With a flow volume of 3.1 million gallons, nearly .01 of
1% of the daily flow would allow 310 gallons of gasoline a day to enter the
ground. If the leak remained undetected for just a month almost 10,000
gallons would be lost. The first indication of the leak would likely be when
contaminants would be measured in the Board of Water and Light
drinking water wells. So, how do they allay their fear of that?
Mr. Cole said first of that the Stifel Well Field is over a mile away and he is
sure that they could consult with any geologist and find out that it takes
literally decades for gasoline to travel through the ground for a mile. What
he just described about the valves and the temperature and pressure
transmitters is so that they have the opportunity to make sure that there is
no undetectable leaks. Also, if they would recall the area in which they
are proposing to build this pipeline, they would remember that in many,
many months of the year, the ground is wet and they simply can not leak
300 gallons of gasoline into the ground that is wet and not have that
gasoline surface. So, the public is one safeguard against the city's
waterwells because if it does surface it will be reported. If it is reported
they will eliminate the leak and clean up the ground. They will remediate
the location and it will not pose a threat to the city's waterwells. The
current 65 year old pipeline that runs between 1-96 and 1-69 has existed
there for 65 years and although they did not own it for that period of time
and reviewing the records that they have from the prior owners, they do
not find that it has leaked within that corridor and that corridor is also a
corridor that could put gasoline in the same aquifer that they referred to.
So, simply forcing them to use the old pipeline is not a way to resolve the
exposure of the aquifer to gasoline contamination if they were the type of
company that would allow that to happen.
Mr. Smith asked how they do determine an underground leak?
Mr. Cole said they conduct an over and short analysis of the line while it is
running measuring what goes in one end versus what comes out of the
other end. This is computerized and very accurate. Then when they close
a pipeline they leave pressure on a pipeline. In this case there would be
375 to 500 pounds of pressure left on the pipeline. If in the normal course
of business they shut down a pipeline, which occurs routinely, while it is
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shut down with that pressure on it, if they close those 6 or 7 valves they
have segmented the pipeline into very small increments and they can
measure the pressure drop and if there is one, they investigate there was
a pressure drop. Is it due to a valve leaking into the tank at Lansing
terminal or is it due to the gasoline leaking from the pipeline somewhere.
His point is this, if they conduct 24 hour remote surveillance of the
operation of the pipeline and then they in effect pressure test it every time
they shut down, there will not be any leaks occurring on the pipeline that
will be of a magnitude that could readily place gasoline into the City of
Lansing's drinking water. Also, he is not sure that they need to be as
concerned about that possibility as they seem to be because currently
there has been over 112 locations within the City of Lansing where
underground storage tanks have leaked and none of those has resulted in
the contamination of the city's water aquifer.
Mr. Smith said from the time that there was a pressure variance and they
have a potential leak, what kind of a time frame would they be talking
about and the secondary question to that, are there other things that could
give a false reading? In other words, would there be other reasons that
there would be pressure fluctuation that might not be a leak, that may lead
them to assume that they did not have a leak but it is some other problem
so there is some hesitance in addressing the leak?
Mr. Cole said they are required by Office of Pipeline Safety regulation to
inspect the valves and any temperature and pressure transmitters on a 6
month basis and repair any problems associated with those inspections.
For example, a pressure transmitter could give a false indication,
however, it is not likely to show a pressure drop if one was not occurring.
It could show an inaccurate pressure, but if that pressure remains static
then there is no seepage of product from the pipeline. They will respond
immediately to anything that they believe indicates to them that there is
any kind of leakage from the pipe. They are not in the business of spilling
gasoline, they don't get paid for spilling gasoline.
Mr. Smith said that he just mentioned a 6 month interval in the inspection
of the valves. Is he to understand that it is the kind that they would detect
a pressure difference or is the pressure constantly monitored?
Mr. Cole said the pressure and the status of the valve is constantly
monitored. It is a physical on-site inspection that is required every 6
months.
Ms. Foster said he said that when they are going to close the valves they
are going to leave a remaining pressure of 500-800 pounds of pressure
and they would test it with that to see if there was a pressure drop. Would
they ever test it at full pressure with the valves closed?
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Mr. Cole said no, not with product they would not, no.
Ms. Foster said she just wondered if something that leaks at that high
pressure they would not be doing it at a stopped point.
Mr. Cole said if they do that when the pipe is shut down, there will be
times when it will be shut down with diesel fuel in the line. There will be
times when it will be shut down with gasoline in the line. Diesel fuel leaks
from the pipeline easier than gasoline leaks from the pipe line if they are
talking about a seepage occurrence. Because of that fact, they would
have multiple products during this test it is not likely that any type of small
leak would ever be undetected for a significant period of time.
Ms. Foster said it still would not be tested at that high pressure.
Mr. Cole said the reason they do not do it at full pressure is this. The
pressure at which the pipeline will be rated to operate is 1440 psi. That
pressure exists at the pump in Stockbridge and the closer they get to the
Lansing distribution terminal the lower the pressure is. So, by the time it
reaches Lansing the pressure is likely to be 800-900 pounds. So in a
normal routine shutdown, they stop the pump in Stockbridge and close the
valve. As the pressure begins to leave the pipeline at a point in which they
want to catch the remaining pressure then they close the valve at the
Lansing terminal. They never leave it shut down with the full 1440 pounds
of pressure because that would require them to pump against a closed
valve in Lansing and that is not a good practice.
Ms. Foster said if they got turned down on this, what are their viable
options?
Mr. Cole said he does not know what the future would hold if they were
not successful in getting a permit to construct this particular line. He
knows that one option is to use the existing one. That is not a very good
option. He can not tell the Board what the Board of Directors at Wolverine
Pipeline would choose to do in the future. All he can say is that they
would recommend to them that they not spend millions in searching for
the illusive perfect pipeline ramp, because it does not exist. In this current
route that they are proposing it is as good a route as they would find
anywhere in this area to serve this area.
Mr. Ruge said in testimony before the MPSC, Mr. Charles Green, Real
Estate Appraiser, he testified that there were two possible alternative
routes that would avoid any heavily populated areas. Have they checked
into these possible routes?
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Mr. Cole said during the first case, there were several alternative routes
identified and they have looked at those alternative routes. The MPSC
have looked at those alternative routes. Some of those alternative routes
are very close to or similar to the routes that Mr. Green identified and it is
Wolverine's opinion and it is the opinion of MPSC staff engineer that this
route is superior compared to any of the alternatives that Wolverine or the
MPSC studied. Mr. Green is an appraiser, so he is very good at finding
out who owns property and where a pipeline route could be, but he falls
short of being an expert of actually analyzing whether or not a route he
picks is a real viable alternative to the one they have suggested.
Mr. Frederick said they brought up earlier Mr. Hills e-mail that they
received about the spill down near Jackson. The reason he asks this is
he is looking at this pipeline now as something that is going to go in brand
new, but it is going to be 65 years old after he is gone and presumably if
pipelines get older they become more likely to have some kind of a
problem be it maintenance or a leak or whatever. He would like to know
what his company has learned from the experience with the Jackson spill
and what would they do differently today if they had that same accident?
Mr. Cole said with regard to the way they responded, they probably would
not do very much differently than what they did. They responded
effectively as well as Blackman Township and Jackson County Sheriff's
Department and USEPA, the Michigan State Police. Anyone who has
some responsibility for response to an incident like that responded timely
and effectively and they were the first to realize the incident and they shut
the pipeline down immediately and they responded immediately. In
regard to their response they would not do anything differently. If they
look at the way they compensated people who were asked to evacuate
from their homes, they went above and beyond a legal requirement of a
company such as theirs to reimburse them for any possible loss that they
could have suffered as a result of that evacuation. The only thing that
concerns him about that is that it does not satisfy some people. So, he
does not know that there is anything that they would do differently, when
they look at the fact that there are a very small amount of law suits
compared to the fact that 1300 people were evacuated, he guesses that
you would have to say that they did the right thing. His problem is that
they don't seem to be getting credit for doing the right thing. But, if they
watch the news, most businesses don't get credit for doing the right thing.
With regard to the beginning of the question. Mr. Frederick is right, this
pipeline will be 65 years old and when it is 65 years old it will be in far
better condition than a current 65 year old pipeline. That is because of
the fact that industry has learned a lot and regulators have learned a lot
and so now they know more about how to build a pipeline and maintain a
pipeline and the regulatory body understands more about what to require
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of them so they properly maintain the pipeline. So, comparing this
pipeline 65 years from now to the one that currently exists to the east of
them that is 65 years old today is an apples and oranges comparison.
They are not comparable.
Mr. Frederick said earlier he mentioned the valves that they use to close
to perform the tests. From the material that he has read that was
presented during the MPSC hearing, he understands that those valves
are above the 48 inches of depth of the ground that the pipeline is buried.
What he would like to know then, is since those valves are above ground
they seem to be particularly vulnerable to terrorists attack. A year ago
that would not have been as much a concern as it is now, so he would like
to know what their company will do to protect those valves and potentially
there could be a bomb big enough to blow up the pipeline 48 inches in the
ground, although that is fairly deep. At any rate he would like to know
what terrorist protection they have put into the project?
Mr. Cole said they have worked with MDOT to pick locations for those
valves that are above ground so that they minimize any potential for traffic
running off 1-96 to be able to come in contact with the valves and they will
also fence the valves and lock the fence so that it is relatively
inaccessible. They are also on a heavily traveled highway so they are
constantly in the vision of somebody, so they don't anticipate that a
terrorist would find them to be a very attractive target and when they
consider that terrorists are doing these things to make a spectacular point
or to cause severe disruptions, they don't necessarily accomplish either
one of those by blowing up an in ground pipeline. They would more likely
focus on a storage area for petroleum products like Lansing terminal or
like the refinery where it is produced. With regard to what happens if they
actually did blow up the pipeline. The pipeline can be repaired and back
in service within hours if not days and once it is repaired and back in
service they go about the task of cleaning up anything that is spilled from
the pipeline. While they can't guarantee them that a terrorist will never
target a pipeline, they also can't tell them that they consider it to be a very
high risk in compared to all the other targets that they would find around a
city like Lansing that a terrorist might like to go after.
Mr. Frederick asked if anyone, including his company ever considered
moving the terminal that the pipeline would terminate from North Lansing
around to somewhere in the south so they would not have to build this
pipeline or use the existing one at all?
Mr. Cole said Wolverine Pipeline Company does not own the distribution
terminal. It is owned by one of their shippers. The distribution terminal is
a very expensive facility to construct and it also needs to be permitted, so
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the short answer to the question is no that has not been considered and
he would doubt very seriously if Marathon National Petroleum Company
would consider it.
Mr. Ruff said Mr. Cole mentioned after Mr. Frederick's question that their
response in Blackman Township was timely and effective and that the
pipeline was shut down immediately. How many gallons of fuel was
spilled and what size pipeline was that?
Mr. Cole said that pipeline was a 16" in diameter pipeline, which it is larger
than the pipeline proposed here. The remotely controlled valves on that
pipeline were approximately 40 miles apart. In relationship to this route
within the City of Lansing they are talking 5 miles apart. Once they can
close the valves that greatly diminishes the amount of product that can
flow from the pump, however it will still leak out of the pipe by gravity until
other manually operated valve is closed. The closest manually operated
valve was 20 miles away. They did all the valve closings and reduced the
amount of product that was leaking from the pipeline. . .They shut the
pipeline down within minutes and they had all the manual valves closed
within an hour of the actual spill. The amount that they reported to the
National Response Center, which was an estimate at the time because
they had no way to measure it, was 71,400 gallons. The amount that
actually was lost from their pipeline by their meter measurement was like
55,000 gallons. The majority of the gasoline was picked up within the first
24 hours and more than 80% of it was eventually picked up and the
difference between what was picked up and what wasn't was a significant
of it evaporated because the weather was identical to what it is today.
The fact that the weather was identical today is why they evacuated to so
many people. They hauled off 400 dump truck loads of dirt to a landfill
just so that they could make sure that the gasoline did not remain in the
environment within Blackman Township. They are continuing to work with
the MDEQ to make sure that the drain that the gasoline followed on its
way to the Grand River is eventually 100% cleaned up to the satisfaction
of the MDEQ, not to the satisfaction of Wolverine Pipe Line.
Ms. Keene asked if he could tell her exactly the damages that they paid
out to the nature of the injury to the residents. How did the spill impact
their lives?
Mr. Cole said out of the 580 residences that were asked to evacuate they
all had to find alternative housing anywhere from one day to one night to
seven nights. So, they paid for that cost. They paid for the cost of their
meals while they were evacuated from their homes. They paid for the
cost of boarding their pets if that was needed. All of those who were
evacuated had their gas and their power turned off at their home during
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the evacuation period. Some of those residences are in an area where
basement sump pumps are required to operate continually or the
basement floods, so in some houses they had to repair flood damage
because their sump pump was off when they evacuated. Any legitimate
claim that they brought forward was paid. They used a check writing
system with a check written on a local bank so that they had immediate
access to the money. Altogether in that type of claim situation they spent
in excess of 1.5 million dollars.
Mr. Ruge said he wanted to clarify. To these 580 residences they paid
1.5 million dollars?
Mr. Cole said not to each one. In aggregate for lodging, transportation,
food, and for incidental damages to there home in the evacuation period.
Ms. Keene said she assumes that the pipeline was repaired and it is still
in existence where it was at the time.
Mr. Cole said it was repaired in that 7 day period and put back into
service. It is still in service today in the same location.
Lisa Dedden, Ingham County Commissioner representing District 10,
stated her district is the south Lansing area. She is strongly opposed to
the Wolverine Pipe Line proposal to construct a pipeline across south
Lansing. Her opposition is for herself and on behalf of her constituents
who live in homes, apartments and manufactured housing along the
proposed route along 1-96. Enclosed in the documents are a copy of
resolution 01-156, entitled Resolution in Opposition to Proposed
Wolverine Pipe Line routes against densely populated residential areas in
Ingham County, which was adopted by the Ingham County Board of
Commissioners on May 22, 2001 and which specifically addresses and
expresses opposition to Wolverine's proposal to construct this route south
Lansing along the 1-96 right of way. Also in the packet is another
document that she has also filed with the Michigan Public Service
Commission which is a photo addendum to her brief and opposition to this
route. As you look at the packet, you can see visual evidence of people
who live in this area and that there are a number of people there and that
there are a number of businesses in contradiction to some of the
comments that the applicant has made on that issue. In particular, she is
here tonight to say Wolverine's request to construct this pipeline in
Lansing should be denied because it would place this pipeline too close to
far too many high consequence areas including densely populated
neighborhoods consisting of homes, apartments, and manufactured
housing communities, public wells upon which a large segment of mid-
Michigan's population is dependent for the water supply, schools, a
congested and growing business district and at least one sizeable daycare
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center. Routing a petroleum products pipeline through this level of
residential and commercial development unacceptably compromises the
safety and interest of thousands of Lansing residents. Official United
States Census Data shows that 9,113 persons live in 4,295 housing units
in the Census blocks immediately adjacently to 1-96 where this proposal
runs through the City of Lansing alone. In conclusion, she stated that as
witnesses have attested throughout both the case currently before the
PSC and the Meridian Township case before the PSC, the risks
associated with the presence of a petroleum products pipeline no matter
how safely the company may attempt to construct and operate that line
from an engineering standpoint are necessarily increased when the
pipeline is located in an area with high density of residential and
commercial development and this added risk is contrary to the public
interest and safety of Lansing residents. She respectfully urged the Board
to deny the proposal before them.
John Pollard, resident of 1718 Blair street, stated he is vehemently
opposed to the Wolverine Pipe Line. It certainly is going to threaten over
9,100 people, 4,200 housing units, 23 of 110 wells, that is about 22
percent of the drinking water of Lansing, 73 abandoned wells and the
water supply for over 200,000 mid-Michigan residents. Absolutely never
should you ever take a chance on jeopardizing water supply. When we
need gasoline a hundred years from now, a thousand years from now who
knows. It could be solar, nuclear or anything. Where human beings need
air and water ten thousand years from now you betcha just like we have
for ten thousand years that preceded us. The Office of Pipeline Safety
may come here to watch the initial construction. They are not going to
stand out there and watch this construction or supervise them the whole
period. They typically show up at the beginning, watch them dig, and
wander off into the sunset. According to figures released by the U.S.
Department of Transportation, Office of Pipeline Safety, in 1998 the latest
year for which the data was available, Michigan petroleum and natural gas
lines had to repair 9,300 leaking underground gas lines and that figure is
double what it was in 1991. Maybe they are getting better with their
technology but they are finding more and more problems. He had data
from the Office of Pipeline Safety. One of things that they are always
going to try and tell you is that the leading cause of accidents and
problems of pipelines are third party damage. People coming and
digging. If you were to take all the problems that cause leakages whether
it is by volume or cause of accident, for example, if corrosion of a pipeline,
failed pipeline, failed well, incorrect operation of a pipeline and
malfunctioning equipment, that is 42.4 percent of all the spillage product.
It is also 46 percent of all the accidents whereas this third party stuff they
are talking about is only 24 percent. What has happened is dis-
aggregated all the data related to a pipeline but when you re-aggregate
the data, the pipeline is the biggest cause of problems with a pipeline not
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the outside source. Finally, he stated that he is opposed to the pipeline
because this is nothing short of environmental discrimination or racism.
The pipeline is coming through here. He has the 2000 Census data for
the track level: the tracks that run along East Lansing and Meridian, the
six tracks that run along Lansing. We have 12 percent to a 55 percent of
a minority population compared to Meridian of 7.6 or 17 percent. The
median or average minority population totals in Lansing are 30.8 percent
or 30.4 percent respectively. That is about 190.6 times greater than it is in
Meridian and 2 2/3 times greater than it is in Meridian, if I look at the
average and the median. We have more children and more poor people
living along the pipeline. The average household income in Lansing is
$49,784 compared to $83,000. There are some tracks in Lansing that are
12%, 15%, 25%, 36%, 38.3% and 55.5% minority. To do this is to violate
civil rights, is to violate the 14`h Amendment of the Constitution of the
United States and he's asking the Board to turn Wolverine down, send
them packing and find an alternate route. This does not come through a
densely populated area which is an oxymoron. There is no such thing as
a safe pipeline where there are people. Send the pipeline out in the
wilderness somewhere and if it blows up, we'll save the wilderness and no
one will die.
Brian Smith, resident of 1007 Woodbine, Chairman of Citizens for a
Better Lansing, stated there is not much more that he could add. He
feels that constructing the pipeline is contrary to public interest and safety
by putting the pipeline through the City of Lansing. This case should be
about public interest and safety not big business and who has the deepest
pockets. It is clear that Wolverine calculated their risks based on the
ability of the impacted families and businesses to fight them and not on
the risk of population of minorities, low income families and children who
would be effected the most if the pipeline fails. Basically, deny the
pipeline.
Clyde Dugan, Special Projects Director and Water Utilities Director
for the Lansing Board of Water and Light, stated that he submitted
testimony on behalf of Board of Water and Light in opposition to the
Wolverine Pipe Line in the MPSE hearings. He wanted to go over briefly
the elements of what he submitted and what the opposition was. The
proposed pipeline runs through 9 Y2 miles of public water supply well head
protection areas. The well head protection areas were determined by the
United States Geological Survey using computer models of the Aquifer
system to delineated well head protection areas were then approved by
Michigan Department of Environmental Quality. Well head protection
areas are those areas that contribute water to public water supply wells
within a 10 year time frame. Parenthetically, that also includes any
constituents of any product that are soluble in water when water travels at
that speed. In other words, if a contaminate is introduced into the ground
or into the Aquifer in these areas, it will reach a public water supply well
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within ten years. Ten public drinking water wells that are within a one
quarter mile buffer zone would be impacted directly by a leakage of
gasoline contaminants from the pipeline and an additional 13 wells are
within the adjacent well head protection areas. Of these 23 wells, 21 are
Board of Water and Light wells. The 21 BWL wells within the impacted
well head protection area represent 22% of our total well field capacity
and they are very productive wells requiring minimal conditioning, so they
represent 25% of our base load capacity. In addition to existing wells, the
proposed pipeline route goes through areas where new wells are planned
and that will be a well head protection area in the future. The water
supply wells within the well head protection area would be significantly
impacted by either a catastrophic failure, which is a sudden and large
release, and that type of failure can be detected by the pipeline control
system, or a non-catastrophic failure, which is an undetected leak. One of
the experts for the Wolverine Pipe Line Company represented that up to
16 gallons a minute could be lost without the automatic protective system
catching it. Contamination that enters the ground will, unless completely
removed, likely enter the drinking water aquifer. The layer of rock,
predominately shale, that separates ground water from the glacial aquifer
or the overlying aquifer is discontinuous and much of this portion of the
well head protection area and that was also reflected in the environmental
assessment done by Wolverine's consultant. In addition, the proposed
pipeline route passes through our southwest well field, the Steifel well field
well head protection area, which has no protective layer at all and by
definition this well head protection area represents 10 year time and
travel, not decades as represented by Mr. Cole. All of these observations
have been confirmed by the BWL Hydro Geologists consultant. In the
case of a catastrophic failure, if the automatic system is engaged, a
quantity of 3.1 million gallons per day at 14.40 psi ensures a considerable
amount of liquid petroleum will be forced directly into the ground and we
have indicated in the file testimony what the volume of that would be. A
non-catastrophic failure, such as an undetected leak, is even of greater
concern than the sudden catastrophic type. Any automated control
system has limited sensitivity to detect leaks with a flow volume of 3.1
million gallons per day, just 1/100 of 1% represents 310 gallons per day of
gasoline into the ground system. The first indication of leak would likely
be when the contaminates were first measured in the BWL drinking water
wells.
Ron Ashley, resident of 4521 Old Lansing Road, stated he has been a
life long resident of Lansing. He finds it very odd that we have heard so
little from the local media, State Journal or any of the local news channels.
Little, if best, has been said and he cannot understand how few people
are here tonight to speak on behalf of trying to stop the pipeline. As a
realtor for 20 years, developers always try to find the path of least
resistence to put through what they want over the desires or the
objections of other people who are already there on the property that they
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are trying to cross. He feels that Wolverine is going across the south side
of Lansing because there is so much rental property and less opposition
from home owners that Wolverine thinks they can get away with this and
get it across without anybody saying too much about it. He wanted to
know that if Wolverine goes along 1-96, are they paying the state some
kind of fee to run alongside the expressway instead of buying land and
running the pipeline through the countryside away from the city. Is this
why the public has not heard anything about the pipeline or is there
something he is missing on the matter. As the pipeline crosses 1-96,
when it reaches an overpass of one of the under streets of south Lansing,
where is it routed then? Is it buried in the ground of one of the lower
streets or how is it handled at this point? (i.e. 1-96 crosses Cedar Street,
South Washington Avenue, Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd., etc.)
Mr. Ruff stated that it is his understanding of what is called directional
drilling, where Wolverine would actually drill underneath the street
intersection, even deeper to get underneath Cedar Street and the same
would be for rivers that would be crossed. Wolverine would drill
underneath the river and then back up the other side, even a 12 inch steel
pipe has a bend to it over a certain length.
Mr. Ashley stated that he finds it very odd that some corporation can
come into the City and their wishes and their desires are more important
than the people who live in the City and pay taxes in the City and who
have lived here their whole lives. He used to live in Dimondale and the
same thing happened to a tract of land behind the subdivision in which he
lived. The land was as dormant as a farmer's field for years. The sewer
line was put in from Dimondale out to Grand Pointe marina. The
company that laid the pipeline found out that the land was zoned multiple
dwelling and they went to the township and threatened them because they
wanted to put in a trailer park. The representative of the company stood
there the first night at the township meeting and said the company has a
quarter of a million dollars to sue anybody who will fight us. He stated that
was so bazaar and so obnoxious that people who would build homes and
live in that subdivision for 30 years, older people who are in their
retirement years, had this on their backs and had this thrown in their face
as being life long residents of that township. He cannot believe that they
thought they could just blow right in and stomp all over these people's life
long living out there and enjoying their property and paying their taxes and
thought their desires were more important than the people who lived out
there. He stated that he would be ashamed of the Board if they allowed
Wolverine to pull this stunt in the City of Lansing.
Dan Judd, resident of 1707 W. Ottawa, stated that he is the owner of
ARQ, Inc., the company who is proposing to purchase the building at 934
Clark Street in reference to NCU-1-2002, and was directed to speak
during the Comments from the Audience.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 16, 2002, Page 21
Seeing no one else wishing to speak on this matter, Mr. Frederick referred
Act-7-2002 to the Planning Board, Committee of the Whole, to meet on
Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at Council Chambers, 10th Floor City Hall, 124 W.
Michigan Avenue.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE
Dan Judd, resident of 1707 W. Ottawa, stated that the proposal looks like it
recommended that a substitution go through with a couple of caveats that
include the driveway, whether it be the driveway and a parking lot or just the
driveway, the hard surface being with some type of porous pavement and that
there should be some sort of landscape, screening and buffering zones. He
wasn't sure if that meant a fence or if it meant that the company had to build a
berm. He stated that the company has not yet purchased the property and how
this goes will depend on how the company change whatever offer that has been
made to the property owner. Mr. Ruff stated that the porous pavement is with
the idea it would not be hard surfaced in such a way with asphalt or concrete the
parking area and driveway so that water would not be able to percolate into the
ground. It could be gravel or some other surface that would allow water to
penetrate into the ground and that may take from a site plan review stand point
whether a certain gravel is approved that it be properly edged so that it doesn't
spill over any place or if another material is used like brick, cobbles, or concrete
pavers, that would be an option as well. Then the landscape, screening and
buffering could include fencing, fencing and landscaping or landscaping. Mr.
Ruff wasn't sure if there was fencing on the site presently but stated it would be
to help soften the parking lot areas primarily from the adjoining residential
properties. That is the purpose of it and that it could take on many different
forms that could be designed to meet not only the company's financial needs but
also meet the code requirements for buffering.
Mr. Judd stated that he could get some type of reasonable quotes and talk with
the Planning Department. His biggest concern was that the only quick quotes
the company could get on anything that wasn't basically gravel was going for
$10.00 a square foot, which would add conservatively $40,000-$50,000 to this
project unless the owner cut the price of the building by over half the amount.
The building is going to be vacant for a very, very long time. If gravel is a
reasonable option, then that is what the company would like to do.
Mr. Ruff stated that if this request is approved with these conditions, it doesn't
mean the company still has to purchase the building.
Seeing no one else wishing to address the Board, Mr. Frederick closed the
public comment period.
6. RECESS was taken by the Board.
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7. BUSINESS SESSION
A. Ms. Keene moved; seconded by Ms. Foster to approve the minutes of
April 2, 2002 without corrections. On a voice vote, motion carried (6-0),
the minutes of April 2, 2002 were
APPROVED.
B. Committee Reports
1. ZONING AND ORDINANCE COMMITTEE, Mr. Ruge, Chair
a. Z-5-2002, 1500 E. Cavanaugh Road, "I" Heavy Industrial
District to "G-2" Wholesale District and "H" Light
Industrial District
This is a request by Kevin VanErman to rezone a 13.968
acre parcel located at 1500 E. Cavanaugh Road, west of
Aurelius Rd., immediately east of the Penn. Central Railroad
right-of-way and more particularly described as:
W '/2 OF W % OF SE 1/4 LYING E OF MC RR R/W, EXC COM
SEC CEN, TH S 185.5 FT TO MC RR R/W, SE-LY ALONG MC
RR R/W 268 FT TO OPEN DRAIN, N 4DEG 50MIN E ALONG
SAID DRAIN TO E&W 1/4 LINE, W 119 FT TO BEG; SEC 34
T4N R2W
from "I" Heavy Industrial District to "G-2" Wholesale District
and "H" Light Industrial District. The applicant proposes to
rezone the north 3.51 acres to "G-2" Wholesale District and
the remaining 10.45 acres to "H" Light Industrial District.
The purpose of the request is to allow for the creation of
small industrial park.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to recommend approval of
Z-5-2002, 1500 E. Cavanaugh Road, "I" Heavy Industrial District to "G-2"
Wholesale District and "H" Light Industrial District.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Foster. . . Ave
Keene . .Ave Patrick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
Smith. . .Ave Ruge . .Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 16, 2002, Page 23
b. Z-6-2002, Willoughby Road, A" Residential District to
"DM-2" Residential District (Amended to "B" Residential
District)
This is a request by John E. Sabty to rezone a vacant 62
acre parcel from "A" Residential District (single family) to
"DM-2" Residential District (multiple family). The property is
located north of Willoughby Rd. and south of 1-96 in the
southeast 1/4 of Section 9, T3N-R2W, City of Lansing and
more particularly described as:
The East % of the Southeast 114 of the Southwest 114
and the Southwest 114 of the Southeast 114 lying
South of the southerly right of way line of 1-96 Section
9 T3N-R2W, City of Lansing, Ingham County, MI.,
except the West 100.0 feet.
The purpose of the request is to allow for the creation of an
850 unit multi-family development.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Ms. Foster to recommend approval of
Z-6-2002, Willoughby Road, "A" Residential District to "B" Residential District
with the assumption that a PRD will be submitted and there will be a 25% bonus
density by utilizing the energy conservation techniques. For the record, the Board
received an agreement from Mr. Sabty to amend his application for rezoning to "B"
Residential District.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Foster. . . Aye
Keene . .Ave Patrick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
Smith. . .Ave Ruge . .Aye
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED.
C. NCU-1-2002, 934 Clark Street, Request for Substitution
and Class A Status for a Nonconformity
This is a request by ARQ Inc. for a substitution of a
nonconforming use and Class A status for the property
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 16, 2002, Page 24
located at 934 Clark Street. The applicant proposes to
make approximately $50,000 in improvements to the subject
building in order to change its use from a printing business
to an office that provides internet services. The subject
property is currently zoned "B" Residential and is
nonconforming for parking and use. This is not a matter of a
rezoning.
Mr. Ruge inquired about nonconforming for parking. He
stated that he went to the site and it seemed there was
plenty of space for parking. There was an empty lot next
door which Mr. Judd indicated was part of the deal and that
it looked like at one time it had a house on the property. Mr.
Ruff stated that it was probably nonconforming for
improvement and that parking number is contingent upon
the use. Mr. Ruff gave the example of a use that required
only five spaces, it might not be nonconforming for number.
When you have a gravel surface or have something that is
not lined, it is difficult to say. You can say that you can get
so many spaces but practically when people park on gravel
they don't park the same as if you would give it hard
surfacing and lines. The parking number is probably not the
coefficient that is nonconforming. It is probably due to the
surfacing or its improvement.
Mr. Ruge inquired about the City's standards for lighting in a
parking lot. Mr. Ruff stated that there is no requirement for
lighting but if you do, the lighting is supposed to remain on
site. It is not supposed to be directed or spill over to the
adjacent properties. Mr. Ruff also stated that most
insurance companies demand that you have lighting.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Ms. Foster to recommend approval of
NCU-1-2002, 934 Clark Street, Request for Substitution and Class A Status for a
Nonconformity with the following conditions:
1. The driveway be surfaced with porous pavement.
2. Landscape, screening and buffering be provided along the periphery of
the property as required by the Zoning Ordinance.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 16, 2002, Page 25
3. That all other requirements be met (storm water runoff, parking lot lighting,
access to parking space, etc.) through the Site Plan Review process.
4. That all required improvements be completed within one year from the
approval of this NCU request.
5. The south driveway be closed.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . ........ . . . . Ave Foster. . . Aye
Keene . .Ave Patrick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
Smith. . .Ave Ruge . .Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED w/CONDITIONS.
d. Ordinance Amendments (Accessory Structure and Front
Yard Setbacks)
Mr. Ruge stated that Ms. Stachowiak had indicated the
language that was currently presented was found
unenforceable by the Court, so it was tabled.
Next meeting, Wednesday, May 15, 2002 at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
2. URBAN DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, Ms. Patrick, Chair
Next meeting, Tuesday, April 23, 2002, at 6:00 p.m.
Council Chambers, 101h Floor, City Hall, 124 W. Michigan Ave.
3. Committee of the Whole - None.
4. Executive Committee - None.
C. REPORT FROM PLANNING MANAGER
Mr. Ruff stated that the Development Planning Committee of Council met
today and recommended approval of the recent rezoning requests that the
Board has recommended. Z-21-2001 and Z-1-2002 were approved.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 16, 2002, Page 26
D. PENDING ITEMS (future action required)
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a. - - urner St.,"H"Light Industrial District to"G-1"Business
District(Tabled February 11, 1998)
b. Z-5-1998,401-407 E. Grand River,"F"Commercial District to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled June 10, 1998)
C. Z-8-2000,3901 S. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.,"F"Commercial to"H"Light
Industrial District(Tabled June 14, 2000)
d. Z-15-2000, 301 W. Lenawee Street, Professional Office to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled January 17,2001
e. P-1-2001,Tentative Preliminary lat,Wexford Woods (Tabled June 13, May 9,
2001)
f. PRD-2-2001,"Crystal Woods", Planned Residential Neighborhood (Tabled
August 15, 2001
g. SLU-6-2001, 51)-519 E. Grand River Ave., Church in"F-1"Commercial District
(Tabled November 14,2001)
h. SLU-8-2001, 3000 W. Miller Road,Additional Parking for an Existing Church
(Tabled November 14,2001)
i. SLU-1-2002, 1400 Block,W. Jolly Road, Special Land Use Permit-New Church
J. Ordinance Amendments, Front Yard Setbacks and Accessory Structures
2. Urban Development Committee
a. Act-9-2000,201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj. Sign Over ROW (Tabled June 27,
2000)
b. Act-2-2002, Lansing Housing Commission Property,310 Seymour,Acquisition
for public purposes(Tabled February 26, 2002)
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planning Board
a. Act-27-2001,313 E. Grand River Ave. (Comfort Station), Market for Sale(Tabled
April 2,2002)
8. NEW BUSINESS - None.
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON - None.
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Ms. Foster stated that during the Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting
there was a discussion about obtaining a legal opinion regarding the flood plain
development zoning that the City currently has. The second thing discussed was
affordable housing and that some people could argue whether or not there was
enough affordable housing in Lansing. The last thing mentioned briefly was
looking into whether 1% of private development budget could go into art or any
construction that will be occurring in the city. She inquired about the Z&O
Committee obtaining a legal opinion of whether or not some of these things
could happen here in Lansing. She explained that Portland, Oregon takes 1% of
the total budget and applies it towards art. Mr. Ruff stated he would check into
the matter. He also stated that he could obtain a report on affordable housing
from Mr. Emil Winnicker, Development Manager. There was a general
discussion that followed regarding affordable housing.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 16, 2002, Page 27
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS
Mr. Ruge stated that he has not seen any changes with the church on Michigan
Ave. He knew about the enforcement action taken against the church but he is
not seeing any changes.
Mr. Ruge inquired about the plumbing business on Lake Lansing. He stated that
the plumbing business rebuilt all the curbs and put a curb cut in front of the
building. Mr. Ruff stated he would check into the matter.
Ms. Foster inquired about who determines street widening and street
improvements. Mr. Ruff stated that in the City of Lansing, the City makes those
determinations except if it is a state trunk line, the City would work cooperatively.
Mr. Ruff discussed Capitol Improvements
Mr. Frederick inquired about the King World convenient store that is located on
the southwest corner of Kalamazoo and Clemens. He stated that the store looks
like it has a beer and wine license and that in his opinion it is looking like trouble,
especially with signs. Mr. Ruff stated that he would look into the matter.
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 9:28 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
PB Minutes.041602.wpd
Draft to Clerk April 26,2002
Approved 2002
To Clerk 2002
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, April 16, 2002
1. OPENING SESSION
The meeting was called to order at 7:06 p.m. by Chairman Frederick.
A. Roll call. Present: Frederick, Foster, Keene, Patrick, Smith, Ruge.
B. Staff Attending: Ruff, Rieske, Hodges.
C. Excused absence: Ms. Cordill.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
It was moved by Mr. Smith, supported by Ms. Keene to approve the revised
agenda. On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (5-0).
3. COMMUNICATIONS
A. Email from Alisande Henry stating Mayor Hollister would not be able to
attend the Planning Board meeting.
B. Letter from Gilbert and Rebecca Ledesma opposing the Wolverine
Pipeline.
C. Letter from Kathy "K.P." Pelleran opposing the Wolverine Pipeline.
D. Email from Raymond Hill regarding a Wolverine Pipe Line spill in June of
2000.
Mr. Frederick stated for the record that Mr. Ruge arrived at 7:10 p.m. after role
was taken and that he will be present for the duration of the meeting.
Ms. Patrick mentioned an informal communication from the Old Everett
Neighborhood Organization that takes the position of opposition for the
Wolverine Pipeline and that the organization could not send a representative
because of meeting conflicts.
4. HEARINGS
A. Act-7-2002, Gasoline Pipeline in 1-96 Right-of-Way, Wolverine Pipe
Line Company
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES April 16, 2002, Page 2
Wolverine Pipe Line Co. is requesting to locate a gasoline pipe line in the
1-96 right of way in the City of Lansing.
The purpose of the pipeline is for the transportation of gasoline products.
Since such products are highly toxic and flammable, a break in the
pipeline could result in the release of a large volume of toxic liquid.
Although a significant leak may be relatively remote, such situations do
occur. The potential consequences of a pipeline break could be of such
magnitude that their placement in proximity to developed lands and other
high consequence areas would be inconsistent with sound planning
practices and the policies advanced in the City's comprehensive plans.
Correspondingly, location considerations for such a request involve the
nature and function of neighboring land uses, the potential consequences
of a pipeline on these uses, and the available alternatives to this location.
The neighboring land uses along the route are largely developed,
consisting of residential developments of varying density, as well as
commercial and office uses. Much of the land that remains undeveloped
reflects areas of environmental significance and sensitive areas that are
critical to the regions supply of drinking water. The proposed route goes
through the 'Mason Esker', the longest underground glacial river bed in
Michigan. This esker is the principle source drinking water for the region
and contaminants run very quickly through such deposits. Drinking water
concerns also include: the route cutting across established well head
protection zones, being in proximity to the Board of Water and Light's
Wise Road Conditioning Plant, including a 5 million gallon reservoir of
drinking water which represents one third of the water supply capacity for
the region; 10 of BWL production wells are within a quarter-mile of the
pipeline route and another 13 within the well head protection area that
could be impacted by the route.
Continuation of the exiting development pattern is supported by the City's
Comprehensive Plans. The plans do not recognize or recommend the I-
96 r/w as a utility corridor. Much of the area surrounding the Lansing
urbanized area remains undeveloped, offering ample opportunities for
locating the pipeline through undeveloped areas. Two routes were
identified by a real estate appraiser, Charles Green. Four alternate were
considered acceptable by the Public Services Commission.
Until all reasonable alternatives have been exhausted the public's safety
and welfare can be protected to the City's satisfaction, the location
proposed for the pipeline is considered to be incompatible with the
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existing land use pattern, the future pattern being advance in the
Comprehensive Plans, and sound planning practices in general.
With respect to character, the proposed route is in close proximity to a
range of developments and other high consequence areas. It also is a
route reflecting areas of high minority concentrations. The
disproportionate placement of minorities at risk to a potential
environmental hazard threat raises concerns of environment justice.
Given the composition of the adjoining land uses and population, the
request is considered to be inconsistent with the general character of the
neighboring area.
With respect to the 'extent' of the proposal, the size and design of the
pipeline would appear consistent with its intended use and a facility of
lessor size would not result in a disproportionate reduction in it's potential
impacts.
Based on the findings detailed in sections above, proposal is considered
inconsistent with the location and character of the surrounding area, the
land use pattern being advanced in the comprehensive plans, and sound
planning practices. It is, therefore, suggested that the Planning Board
recommend that the request be denied.
John Hodges gave a brief overview.
Mr. Ruff gave a brief clarification regarding the area of the pipeline that
the Board is reviewing and the information provided by Wolverine
Pipeline.
Leslie Cole, Vice President and General Manager Wolverine Pipe
Line, Portage, Michigan. As Mr. Ruff described, they have made
application with the Michigan Public Service Commission to own, operate
and maintain a pipeline. A portion of that pipeline route that they have
asked for a permit does cross through the City of Lansing. It is a very
long pipeline. Some of the shortest distances that cross through any
municipality is through the City of Lansing. They have asked that the
route be along interstate 96 as it goes around the South and West sides
of Lansing. In the MPSC Staff's testimony, as you will find evidence in the
records. They say that there is no such thing as a perfect pipeline route,
but that this particular route is as good as it gets. The reason that it is as
good as it gets because it is a freeway corridor. It is a transportation
corridor. A pipeline is a transportation facility. The corridor is also
isolated and fenced. It has minimal easements in it and contractors that
do work within the corridor must contact MDOT for permission to do work
in that Right-of-way. Because it is a isolated, fenced and controlled
corridor and because contractors must have MDOT's permission, it
reduces the likelihood of third party damage, which is the leading cost of
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pipeline failures. The route utilizes existing highway corridors for almost
the entire length. This in tern minimizes impacts to residences and
businesses. Environmental damage will be minimized because the areas
along the 1-96 right-of-way have previously been disturbed in order to
accommodate the highway itself. Using the highway right-of-way
eliminates the need to take land away from other uses. The proposed
pipeline will be constructed with state of the art technology. Industry
experts as well as the office of pipeline safety have determined that the
pipeline will be constructed and operated in a safe manner. The presence
of a pipeline will not negatively inhibit development, particularly because
the pipeline will be located in a highway right-of-way where development
will not be occurring. Also, Meridian Township and East Lansing are a
perfect example of how a community can flourish even with the presence
of a pipeline. Experts, including the City of Lansing's, Mr. Hansel, have
concluded that in the unlikely event of a pipeline incident, the City's water
supply would not be affected. He would appreciate their consideration in
recommending that the City of Lansing grant its consent to this project
and he would like to answer any questions.
Mr. Ruge asked why they withdrew their application to have the pipeline
follow its original route?
Mr. Cole said the original route of the pipeline, which is 65 years old, has
suffered from what they would consider to be encroachments. That is
basically development within a very close proximity to the pipeline.
Because of the encroachments, which were schools, apartment buildings,
residential property, business property, a post office, the Meridian Mall.
Because of the encroachment of areas like this, the Michigan Public
Service Commission could not recommend that old route as a good
location for a new route. Looking at these encroachments and the
difficulty that would exist in constructing the new pipeline within that highly
congested route and looking at the fact that there is not a highly
congested area along 1-96 as it goes south and west of Lansing.
Wolverine Pipeline Company decided that it would be better to withdraw
the portion of their application that was north of 1-96 all the way up to St.
Johns Township and reapply for a permit utilizing the 1-96 corridor.
Mr. Ruge said that there were more residences and businesses by the
pipeline there than if it went through on 1-96.
Mr. Cole said that there is an order of magnitude greater number of
residential homes, apartment complexes and business development along
that existing corridor than there will be along the 1-96 corridor.
Mr. Ruge asked what it meant when he said in order of magnitude?
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Mr. Cole said what it means is, there were locations where the pipeline
would have run down the middle of a residential street. There were three
locations where the pipeline would run in between the buildings of
apartment complexes. There were two schools where the pipeline would
have crossed the school grounds and in one of those, the current pipeline
crosses underneath the schools playground equipment. It runs around
the perimeter drive of the Meridian Mall. It runs through the parking lot of
the Meridian Post Office. They would actually need pictures of that
current route to get a good understanding of what he is talking about.
With regard to distances from residential property to the pipeline, the
distances that they will find along the 1-96 proposed route are much
greater than the majority of the distances that they would have found
along the route as it went through Okemos, Meridian and East Lansing.
Mr. Ruge asked if it was true that despite the fact that the pipeline was
there they decided to build their businesses and houses next to it.
Mr. Cole said that is true which is another good reason for using 1-96.
Because business development, residential development, any type of
development other than transportation infrastructure will not be allowed in
that corridor.
Ms. Keene asked what are of the State or who will benefit as a result of
the placement of the pipeline through the City of Lansing?
Mr. Cole said in this particular area the City of Lansing is the biggest
beneficiary, but also the Central Michigan Area is another big beneficiary
of this pipeline system. Towns like Mt. Pleasant, Bay City, Midland,
Saginaw and all of the 29 counties that make up the Central Michigan
Area will be beneficiaries of the pipeline.
Ms. Keene said when they say the City of Lansing, they are including
Meridian Township and all the local here?
Mr. Cole said yes, the distribution terminal that currently services the
Greater Lansing Area, which is several counties in radius around that
distribution terminal is located off the Grand River Avenue to the north and
west side of the City of Lansing, west of the City's airport. That is where
this current pipeline will end and will connect to an existing pipeline that
then carries product to a distribution terminal in Bay City. The two
distribution terminals are what will serve Central Michigan. So, they can
say that Meridian Township is benefitted, East Lansing is benefitted,
Okemos is benefitted, Delta Township is benefitted, but the City of
Lansing has the largest number of residence in this area in one municipal
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unit so he would say that the City of Lansing is as big a beneficiary of
anyone in the area of Lansing proper.
Ms. Keene said he answered her question, but she wanted to clarify that
while Lansing will benefit, it is also in her view carrying a burden for the
complete Mid Michigan Area.
Mr. Cole said he would not agree that it would be carrying the burden.
When they look at the number of miles that the pipeline traverses through
communities in this area, the fewest number of miles in any municipality
with the exception of probably Watertown Township is Lansing itself.
Ms. Keene asked if he is saying that Meridian Township and Okemos
areas have more pipeline going through them than what will run through
the City of Lansing?
Mr. Cole said no, he is saying that the townships that border interstate 96
as it goes south and west of Lansing are the townships that will be
crossed by the pipeline. They are the townships that are crossed by the
Interstate highway and if they measure the distance that the pipeline or
the highway traverses through those townships, they will find that the
distance is longer than the distance that passes through Lansing.
Ms. Keene said what about those townships east of Lansing, such as
Meridan?
Mr. Cole said there are townships west that also benefit and it is not
passing through the townships west or east. It goes around the south and
west edge of Lansing. It can benefit people in Charlotte, but it does not
cross through Charlotte.
Ms. Keene said her concern is that the citizens of Lansing appear to be
feeling that the City of Lansing is being asked to assume the burden of
having this pipeline, when all these other locations, such as Meridian
Township are going to have only the benefit, while they carry the burden.
That is a concern that she has.
Mr. Cole said in his view she does not have to be concerned about that
because it is not a burden. It crosses through the City of Lansing, while in
the corridor of an Interstate highway so it does not impact anybody's
private property or any property that the City of Lansing currently zones
for other uses.
Ms. Keene said what she is talking about the burden, she is thinking about
things that the anxiety, for example, that the residents will suffer because
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they are more closely exposed to the possibility of something happening
like what occurred down in Blackman Township. That is what she is
talking about. The thing that Meridian Township will avoid.
Mr. Cole said they all mentioned Mr. Hill who lives in Blackman Township.
Also contained in that record is testimony from the Blackman Township
Supervisor who testified for the MPSC that Wolverine Pipeline Company
is a very good corporate citizen and it fully cooperates with all government
agencies, all interested parties in its response to incidents. While they
don't plan to have incidents, they stay ready to respond to incidents so
that people who do live near the pipeline don't have to be burdened with
worry of what might happen because they are fully capable of working any
response activity to the point that no one living near the pipeline is in
danger because of any incident that the pipeline could possibly have. If
they would also remember the fact that this is a brand new pipeline and so
the likelihood it having an incident is very remote when they compare it to
a pipeline that was built in 1953 like the one through Blackman Township.
Also understand the current regulatory structure in regard to pipelines they
would know that regulations where just passed that requires pipeline
companies to have an integrity management program. This program will
severely lessen the likelihood of any incident with regard to a brand new
constructed pipeline built in the year 2002.
Ms. Keene asked why they withdrew the proposal in Meridian Township.
How did that come about?
Mr. Cole said in the original permit application they asked for a route from
Jackson, Blackman Township, to Stockridge Township and from
Stockridge Township to St. Johns Township. The route from Jackson to
Stockbridge was a new route, one where they did not currently have a
pipeline. The route from Stockbridge to St. Johns was following the
existing pipeline. They had just recently purchased that pipeline. The
easements associated with the ownership of the pipeline is one of the
most valuable assets associated with owning the pipeline. Since they had
just purchased it, they elected to attempt to use that newly acquired asset
by laying a brand new pipeline next to the old pipeline to replace the old
pipeline. The administrative law judge that was hearing that particular
case recommended to the Michigan Public Service Commission that they
deny the permit. Prior to the Michigan Public Service Commission
actually hearing the case, they withdrew the portion that was a concern to
the administrative law judge and that was the portion that existed between
1-96 and 1-69. As a result of withdrawing that piece they were granted a
permit for the piece from Blackman Township, the pipeline has been
constructed, and they were granted the permit for the piece from
Stockbridge to 1-96. That particular part of the line has not been
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constructed because they also agreed with the MPSC Staff that they
would not construct it until they had a completed route to the Marathon
Ashlen Petroleum Terminal on the west side of Lansing. So, what they
have today is a 20 mile new pipeline with some refurbished tanks at
Stockbridge and a new pump station in Stockbridge that is continuing to
pump gasoline down a 65 year old pipeline.
Ms. Foster said continuing with that questions, why where they going to
reject that permit.
Mr. Cole said because of the highly congested nature of Okemos,
Meridian and East Lansing. The route through that area is much more
highly congested than anything along 1-96. Plus going through that highly
congested area they would have done so by easement, which means that
they would not have the protection afforded by being in a corridor like 1-96
where excavation work is limited.
Mr. Ruge asked if they were to refurbish the old 65 year old pipeline, the
same size pipe as it is, could they continue to use their current easement?
Mr. Cole said they could continue to use their current pipeline as it is. It's
current operating pressure is 800 psi and they can not refurbish it to the
point where they can raise the operating pressure to a level necessary to
meet the demands of Central Michigan because the permit that enabled
that pipeline to be built does not allow it to be modified in that manner.
Mr. Ruge said they can pump the same amount of gas through that line,
but they could not pump any more.
Mr. Cole said approximately half of what they are trying to replace.
Mr. Ruge said should they approve their request, would they be willing to
hire a private consultant along with the City to monitor the work on the
pipeline in general?
Mr. Cole said Wolverine Pipeline inspects the construction of a pipeline
facility. The office of pipeline safety also inspects the construction of a
pipeline such as this. The office of pipeline safety might not be there
daily. If the City of Lansing feels that it would be necessary in order to
grant consent for the project that it have a full time inspector to watch the
construction activities that occurred within the City of Lansing, Wolverine
Pipeline would be happy to accommodate that and would be happy to
work with the City of Lansing so that they could find reputable to do that
work that were not in any way affiliated with Wolverine Pipeline.
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Mr. Ruge said he thinks that one of the big concerns is not just the
construction but ongoing inspections to ensure that there is not some kind
of a leak, especially that goes on undetected.
Mr. Cole said that they have agreed to put in 6 or 7 valves along this
corridor as it comes into 1-96 and crosses around the city. The purpose of
those 6 valves is to drastically reduce any amount of gasoline that could
leak from the pipeline in the event there was an incident with the pipeline.
Those 6 valves will be remotely operated that will be capable of being
manually operated on site and in addition to the valves they are planning
to install pressure and temperature sensors at each location so that every
time the pipeline is shut down, they can close those valves using the
pressure and temperature sensors to run a pressure test during that down
time. If they combine that with methodic protection and that they run an
internal inspection tool every 5 years, it would be almost impossible for a
leak to develop that they could not detect prior to the leak losing enough
gasoline to impact any of the city's water wells.
Mr. Ruge said he is saying it is not necessary for some outside person to .
Mr. Cole said he is just describing what they would do. If they look at
what is absolutely necessary, what he described as overkill, but they are
doing this to make people understand that they plan to operate a safe
pipeline and they don't have to be afraid of it. If the City of Lansing would
like to review such inspections on a periodic basis they would be happy to
allow to do so.
Mr. Smith said Mr. Cole earlier referenced a Mr. Hensel from the Board of
Water and Light. To be clear is he referring to the Mr. Hensel who is the
geologist from Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
Mr. Cole said he referred to him as an expert witness for the City of
Lansing, which is what he was.
Mr. Smith said the reason he asks is because first off on the Executive
Summary that was presented to the MPSC on page 50 is a statement that
says potential long term impacts from larger petroleum spills may occur
due to valve or pipeline failures during pipe operations. So, this is
something that they anticipate happening?
Mr. Cole said no they do not anticipate it.
Mr. Smith said it does say in the report that is even foreseeable. Remote
though it might be it does use the word foreseeable. Mr. Hensel, there is
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a statement they have from the Board of Water and Light, has confirmed
that the area through which the pipeline is proposed. . . It says, "in
addition the proposed pipeline route passes through their southwest
wellfield, the Stifel Well Field Wellhead Protection Area that has no
protective layer at all." So, were there to be a leak, whether it was
catastrophic leak or minor there is very little there to prevent it from going
into the Aquifer and possibly contaminating the water supply of which
much of the water for Lansing does then come from underground water.
From the Saginaw Aquifer. So what he wondering now is even though he
has assured them that it would be safe, there are some pretty frightening
statistics here. For example it says for a non-catastrophic failure such as
an undetected leak is an even greater concern than a sudden catastrophic
line failure. Any automated control system has limited sensitivity to leaks.
With a flow volume of 3.1 million gallons, nearly .01 of 1% of the daily flow
would allow 310 gallons of gasoline a day to enter the ground. If the leak
remained undetected for just a month almost 10,000 gallons would be
lost. The first indication of the leak would likely be when contaminants
would be measured in the Board of Water and Light drinking water wells.
So, how do they allay their fear of that?
Mr. Cole said first of that the Stifel Well Field is over a mile away and he is
sure that they could consult with any geologist and find out that it takes
literally decades for gasoline to travel through the ground for a mile. What
he just described about the valves and the temperate and pressure
transmitters is so that they have the opportunity to make sure that there is
no undetectable leaks. Also, if they would recall the area in which they
are proposing to build this pipeline, they would remember that in many,
many months of the year, the ground is wet and they simply can not leak
300 gallons of gasoline into the ground that is wet and not have that
gasoline surface. So, the public is one safeguard against the city's
waterwells because if it does surface it will be reported. If it is reported
they will eliminate the leak and clean up the ground. They will reminidiate
the location and it will not pose a threat to the city's waterwells. The
current 65 year old pipeline that runs between 1-96 and 1-69 has existed
there for 65 years and although they did not own it for that period of time
and reviewing the records that they have from the prior owners, they do
not find that it has leaked within that corridor and that corridor is also a
corridor that could put gasoline in the same aquifer that they referred to.
So, simply forcing them to use the old pipeline is not a way to resolve the
exposure of the aquifer to gasoline contamination if they were the type of
company that would allow that to happen.
Mr. Smith asked how they do determine an underground leak?
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Mr. Cole said they conduct an over in short analysis of the line while it is
running measuring what goes in one end versus what comes out of the
other end. This is computerized and very accurate. Then when they close
a pipeline they leave pressure on a pipeline. In this case there would be
375 to 500 pounds of pressure left on the pipeline. If in the normal coarse
of business they shut down a pipeline, which occurs routinely, while it is
shut down with that pressure on it, if they close those 6 or 7 valves they
have segmented the pipeline into very small increments and they can
measure the pressure drop and if there is one, they investigate there was
a pressure drop. Is it due to a valve leaking into the tank at Lansing
terminal or is it due to the gasoline leaking from the pipeline somewhere.
His point is this, if they conduct 24 hour remote surveillance of the
operation of the pipeline and then they in effect pressure test it every time
they shut down, there will not be any leaks occurring on the pipeline that
will be of a magnitude that could readily place gasoline into the City of
Lansing's drinking water. Also, he is not sure that they need to be as
concerned about that possibility as they seem to be because currently
there has been over 112 locations within the City of Lansing where
underground storage tanks have leaked and none of those has resulted in
the contamination of the city's water aquifer.
Mr. Smith said from the time that there was a pressure variance and they
have a potential leak, what kind of a time frame would they be talking
about and their secondary question to that, are there other things that
could give a false reading? In other words, would there be other reasons
that there would be pressure fluctuation that might not be a leak, that may
lead them to assume that they did not have a leak but it is some other
problem so there is some hesitance in addressing the leak?
Mr. Cole said they are required by Office of Pipeline Safety regulation to
inspect the valves and any temperature and pressure transmitters on a 6
month basis and repair any problems associated with those inspections.
For example, a pressure transmitter could give a false indication,
however, it is not likely to show a pressure drop if one was not occurring.
It could show an inaccurate pressure, but if that pressure remains static
then there is no seepage of product from the pipeline. They will respond
immediately to anything that they believe indicates to them that there is
any kind of leakage from the pipe. They are not in the business of spilling
gasoline, they don't get paid for spilling gasoline.
Mr. Smith said that he just mentioned a 6 month interval in the inspection
of the valves. Is he to understand that it is the kind that they would detect
a pressure difference or is the pressure constantly monitored?
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Mr. Cole said the pressure and the status of the valve is constantly
monitored. It is a physical on-site inspection that is required every 6
months.
Ms. Foster said he said that when they are going to close the valves they
are going to leave a remaining pressure of 500-800 pounds of pressure
and they would test it with that to see if there was a pressure drop. Would
they ever test it at full pressure with the valves closed?
Mr. Cole said no, not with product they would not, no.
Ms. Foster said she just wondered if something that leaks at that high
pressure they would not be doing it at a stopped point.
Mr. Cole said if they do that when the pipe is shut down, there will be
times when it will be shut down with diesel fuel in the line. There will be
times when it will be shut down with gasoline in the line. Diesel fuel leaks
from the pipeline easier than gasoline leaks from the pipe line if they are
talking about a seepage occurrence. Because of that fact, they would
have multiple products during this test it is not likely that any type of small
leak would ever be undetected for a significant period of time.
Ms. Foster said it still would not be tested at that high pressure.
Mr. Cole said the reason they do not do it at full pressure is this. The
pressure at which the pipeline will be rated to operate is 1440 psi. That
pressure exists at the pump in Stockbridge and the closer they get to the
Lansing distribution terminal the lower the pressure is. So, by the time it
reaches Lansing the pressure is likely to be 800-900 pounds. So in a
normal routine shutdown, they stop the pump in Stockbridge and close the
valve. As the pressure begins to leave the pipeline at a point in which they
want to catch the remaining pressure then they close the valve at the
Lansing terminal. They never leave it shut down with the full 1440 pounds
of pressure because that would require them to pump against a closed
valve in Lansing and that is not a good practice.
Ms. Foster said if they got turned down on this, what is their viable
options?
Mr. Cole said he does not know what the future would hold if they were
not successful in getting a permit to construct this particular line. He
knows that one option is to use the existing one. That is not a very good
option. He can not tell the Board what the Board of Directors at Wolverine
Pipeline would choose to do in the future. All he can say is that they
would recommend to them that they not spend millions in searching for
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the illusive perfect pipeline ramp, because it does not exist. In this current
route that they are proposing it is as good a route as they would find
anywhere in this area to serve this area.
Mr. Ruge said in testimony before the MPSC, Mr. Charles Green, Real
Estate Appraiser, he testified that there were two possible alternative
routes that would avoid any heavily populated areas. Have they checked
into these possible routes?
Mr. Cole said during the first case, there were several alternative routes
identified and they have looked at those alternative routes. The MPSC
have looked at those alternative routes. Some of those alternative routes
are very close to or similar to the routes that Mr. Green identified and it is
Wolverine's opinion and it is the opinion of MPSC staff engineer that this
route is superior compared to any of the alternatives that Wolverine or the
MPSC studied. Mr. Green is an appraiser, so he is very good at finding
out who owns property and where a pipeline route could be, but he falls
short of being an expert of actually analyzing whether or not a route he
picks is a real viable alternative to the one they have suggested.
Mr. Frederick said they brought up earlier Mr. Hills e-mail that they
received about the spill down near Jackson. The reason he asks this is
he is looking at this pipeline now as something that is going to go in brand
new, but it is going to be 65 years old after he is gone and presumably if
pipelines get older they become more likely to have some kind of a
problem be it maintenance or a leak or whatever. He would like to know
what his company has learned from the experience with the Jackson spill
and what would they do differently today if they had that same accident?
Mr. Cole said with regard to the way they responded, they probably would
not do very much differently than what they did. They responded
effectively as well as Blackman Township and Jackson County Sheriff's
Department and USPPA, the Michigan State Police. Anyone who has
some responsibility for response to an incident like that responded timely
and effectively and they were the first to realize the incident and they shut
the pipeline down immediately and they responded immediately. In
regard to their response they would not do anything differently. If they
look at the way they compensated people who were asked to evacuate
from their homes, they went above and beyond a legal requirement of a
company such as theirs to reimburse them for any possible loss that they
could have suffered as a result of that evacuation. The only thing that
concerns him about that is that it does not satisfy some people. So, he
does not know that there is anything that they would do differently, when
they look at the fact that there are a very small amount of law suits
compared to the fact that 1300 people were evacuated, he guesses that
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you would have to say that they did the right thing. His problem is that
they don't seem to be getting credit for doing the right thing. But, if they
watch the news, most businesses don't get credit for doing the right thing.
With regard to the beginning of the question. Mr. Frederick is right, this
pipeline will be 65 years old and when it is 65 years old it will be in far
better condition than a current 65 year old pipeline. That is because of
the fact that industry has learned a lot and regulators have learned a lot
and so now they know more about how to build a pipeline and maintain a
pipeline and the regulatory body understands more about what to require
of them so they properly maintain the pipeline. So, comparing this
pipeline 65 years from now to the one that currently exists to the east of
them that is 65 years old today is an apples and oranges comparison.
They are not comparable.
Mr. Frederick said earlier he mentioned the valves that they use to close
to perform the tests. From the material that he has read that was
presented during the MPSC hearing, he understands that those valves
are above the 48 inches of depth of the ground that the pipeline is buried.
What he would like to know then, is since those valves are above ground
they seem to be particularly vulnerable to terrorists attack. A year ago
that would not have been as much a concern as it is now, so he would like
to know what their company will do to protect those valves and potentially
there could be a bomb big enough to blow up the pipeline 48 inches in the
ground, although that is fairly deep. At any rate he would like to know
what terrorist protection they have put into the project?
Mr. Cole said they have worked with MDOT to pick locations for those
valves that are above ground so that they minimize any potential for traffic
running off 1-96 to be able to come in contact with the valves and they will
also fence the valves and lock the fence so that it is relatively
inaccessible. They are also on a heavily traveled highway so they are
constantly in the vision of somebody, so they don't anticipate that a
terrorist would find them to be a very attractive target and when they
consider that terrorists are doing these things to make a spectacular point
or to cause severe disruptions, they don't necessarily accomplish either
one of those by blowing up an in ground pipeline. They would more likely
focus on a storage area for petroleum products like Lansing terminal or
like the refinery where it is produced. With regard to what happens if they
actually did blow up the pipeline. The pipeline can be repaired and back
in service within hours if not days and once it is repaired and back in
service they go about the task of cleaning up anything that is spilled from
the pipeline. While they can't guarantee them that a terrorist will never
target a pipeline, they also can't tell them that they consider it to be a very
high risk in compared to all the other targets that they would find around a
city like Lansing that a terrorist might like to go after.
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Mr. Frederick asked if anyone, including his company ever considered
moving the terminal that the pipeline would terminate from North Lansing
around to somewhere in the south so they would not have to build this
pipeline or use the existing one at all?
Mr. Cole said Wolverine Pipeline Company does not own the distribution
terminal. It is owned by one of their shippers. The distribution terminal is
a very expensive facility to construct and it also needs to be permitted, so
the short answer to the question is no that has not been considered and
he would doubt very seriously if Marathon National Petroleum Company
would consider it.
Mr. Ruff said Mr. Cole mentioned after Mr. Frederick's question that their
response in Blackman Township was timely and effective and that the
pipeline was shut down immediately. How many gallons of fuel was
spilled and what size pipeline was that?
Mr. Cole said that pipeline was a 16' in diameter pipeline, which it is larger
than the pipeline proposed here. The remotely controlled valves on that
pipeline were approximately 40 miles apart. In relationship to this route
within the City of Lansing they are talking 5 miles apart. Once they can
close the valves that greatly diminishes the amount of product that can
flow from the pump, however it will still leak out of the pipe by gravity until
other manually operated valve is closed. The closest manually operated
valve was 20 miles away. They did all the valve closings and reduced the
amount of product that was leaking from the pipeline. . .They shut the
pipeline down within minutes and they had all the manual valves closed
within an hour of the actual spill. The amount that they reported to the
National Response Center, which was an estimate at the time because
they had no way to measure it, was 71,400 gallons. The amount that
actually was lost from their pipeline by their meter measurement was like
55,000 gallons. The majority of the gasoline was picked up within the first
24 hours and more than 80% of it was eventually picked up and the
difference between what was picked up and what wasn't was a significant
of it evaporated because the weather was identical to what it is today.
The fact that the weather was identical today is why they evacuated to so
many people. They hauled off 400 dump truck loads of dirt to a landfill
just so that they could make sure that the gasoline did not remain in the
environment within Blackman Township. They are continuing to work with
the MDEQ to make sure that the drain that the gasoline followed on its
way to the Grand River is eventually 100% cleaned up to the satisfaction
of the MDEQ, not to the satisfaction of Wolverine Pipe Line.
Draft to Clerk April 12 2002
Approved 2002
To Clerk 002
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
. 7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, April 2, 2002
7 _ OPENING SESSION
The meeting was called to order at 7:03 P.M. by Chairman Frederick.
A. Roll call. Present: Frederick, Foster, Keene, Patrick, Smith Ru
B. Staff Attending: Ruff, Stachowiak, Rieske, Wee. ge.
C. Excused absence: Ms. Cordill.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
It was moved by Ms. Keene, su
ported by Mr. Ruge to agenda. On a voice vote, the op on carried unanimously 6 approve) the revised
( 0).
3- COMMUNICATIONS
A. Letter from Ms. Katherine Kennell supporting the improvements
NCU-1-2002. for
B. Letter from the North Lansing Community Association, submitted
Ms. Beverly Miller, stating the association would like to purchase the
Comfort Station property for a nominal fee of$1.00 and how the
association has occupied, maintained and improved the property since
1980.
4. HEARINGS
A. Z-5-2002, 1500 E. Cavanaugh Road, "I" Heavy Industrial Distr'
"G-2" Wholesale District and "H" Light Industrial District Ict to
This is a request by Kevin VanErman to rezone a 13.968 acre parcel
located at 1500 E. Cavanaugh Road, west of Aurelius Rd., im ediatel
east of the Penn. Central Railroad right-of-way and more particularl y
described as: y
W Y OF W % OF SE 114 LYING E OF MC RR R/VV, EXC COM SEC CEN, TH S
185.5 FT TO MC RR R/W, SE'LY ALONG MC RR R/W 268 FT TO OPEN
DRAIN, N 4DEG 50MIN E ALONG SAID DRAIN TO E&W 1/4 LINE, W 119 FT
TO BEG; SEC 34 T4N R2W
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from "I" Heavy Industrial District to "G-2" Wholesale District and "H" Light
Industrial District. The applicant proposes to rezone the north 3.51 acres
to "G-2" Wholesale District and the remaining 10.45 acres to "H" Light
Industrial District. The purpose of the request is to allow for the creation
of small industrial park.
Sue Stachowiak gave a brief overview.
Richard Cooley, representing the applicant, stated that the Planning
staff recommended approval of the special land use permit. Public
Service approved the site plan for the private road and utility construction
and also approved the special land use permit which would allow
construction of buildings in the flood plain. He stated that last fall when
the Planning Board dealt with the special land use issue, there were
concerns for potential environmental hazzards to the water resource of
Sycamore Creek based on the allowable uses in the heavy industrial
district in the current zoning ordinance. He stated that City Council had
the same concerns when the special land use issue was brought before
them at the January 2002 City Council meeting. Even though heavy
industrial zoning does comply with the Master Plan, the applicant,
Mr. VanErman, acknowledged these concerns as legitimate. He stated
that after several meetings with Mr. Ruff, EDC, architects and marketing
contacts, Mr. VanErman carefully considered and electively consented to
a change in the zoning district of the property to a lesser district in order to
address the concerns voiced by the Planning Board and City Council.
During the discussions, staff had proposed a "G-2" Wholesale District as
being most closely aligned with the proposed uses for this business park.
He stated that this would address the Planning Board and City Council
concerns by eliminating a lot of the uses that would be allowed under the
district, but that it would eliminate several strong perspective users that
the applicant and EDC anticipated would want to locate to Lansing. It was
the desire on behalf of the City of Lansing as well as Mr. VanErman to
accommodate the GM suppliers and the efforts to keep the GM plants
local in Lansing. It should be noted that EDC would like to see this
property designated as an industrial development district or be part of one
based on the intentions to try to locate the suppliers in the City. After all
these considerations, Mr. VanErman came up with this proposal in case
Z-5-2002, which involved the two districts mentioned ("G-2" Wholesale
District being on the Cavanaugh Road frontage, about 3 Y2 acres, and "H"
Light Industrial on the remaining 10 Y2 acres) to accommodate the
possibility, and the good prospect of the GM supplier. These zoning
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districts would allow the uses, including the office warehousing that put
forth before, to range from warehousing and distribution all the way up to
some light industrial uses if processing, packaging and assembling of
items inside a building. With all the internal checks and balances
available in this process to the City of Lansing regarding the Planning staff
and Public Service input during the site plan review, the special land use
permit processes involving MDEQ, the regulations regarding flood plain,
water ways, wetlands and air quality, the input from the Ingham County
Drain Commissioner that was sought by City Council, all the various
Federal regulations and also the regulations that the lender involved in
this project is going to have of Mr. VanErman, he believes that the zoning
pattern that has been proposed with the combination of"G-2" Wholesale
district and "H" Light Industrial district and the resulting uses in these
districts would find acceptable to the Planning Board and City Council.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak on this matter, Mr. Frederick referred
Z-5-2002 to the next Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting to be held
on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 316 N. Capitol Avenue.
B. Z-6-2002, Willoughby Road, "A" Residential District to "DM-2"
Residential District
This is a request by John E. Sabty to rezone a vacant 62 acre parcel from
"A" Residential District (single family) to "DM-2" Residential District
(multiple family). The property is located north of Willoughby Rd. and
south of 1-96 in the southeast 1/4 of Section 9, T3N-R2W, City of Lansing
and more particularly described as:
The East % of the Southeast 114 of the Southwest 114 and the
Southwest 114 of the Southeast 114 lying South of the southerly
right of way line of/-96 Section 9 T3N-R2W, City of Lansing,
Ingham County, MI., except the West 100.0 feet.
The purpose of the request is to allow for the creation of an 850 unit multi-
family development.
Sue Stachowiak gave a brief overview.
Mr. Ruge inquired about the City's plans for the property and how the City
gained the property. Ms. Stachowiak stated she wasn't sure and that Mr.
Sabty looked into purchasing the property from the City but for whatever
reason decided not to include it as part of his request. Ms. Stachowiak
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explained that there is a cell phone tower possibly located on the
triangular parcel portion to the north of the property.
Mr. Ruge stated that the report indicated the City sewers are not sufficient
to handle a development of this size. Ms. Stachowiak stated that this was
the statement that the Public Service Department had made regarding
Z-8-2001 and that the Public Service Department is currently still making
this comment. There was a general discussion on how resolve the
situation.
John Sabty, resident of 140 E. Second Street, Flint, stated that he was
representing the owner of the property who is based out of New York City.
Some of the concerns that were presented he has tried to address with
some of the studies that were required from the last proposal. He stated
that the storm sewer issue was readily resolvable because of an existing
storm drain and that an older storm drain is still located on the property.
He was under the understanding that the existing sanitary sewer system
has no capacity at all. He stated that there is a plan in process that the
department is working through to determine how it can deliver additional
capacity, not only for a development such as this, but for other
developments as well. He stated that depending on the zoning change
request, the company could not begin until the question about the
capacity issue had been addressed. He stated that the company is
currently incorporating a certain amount of density into their plan for a
future expansion of the sewer system that is required for that area. With
the traffic inpact study, he wasn't aware that another department had
requested additional information. Ms. Stachowiak stated that the
Transportation Department had not commented on anything.
Mr. Sabty stated that with the traffic flow on Willoughby Road and the way
the road is designed with the front yard setbacks and the gravel on the
sides of each road, there is probably room for expansion of the road in
and around the company's development. He stated at this point, the
company is trying to determine an acceptable level for density so the
company can move forward with a plan that would encompass acceptable
sewer, road, storm drainage, etc. The company is at a starting point and
cannot begin because there is not a level of density that has been
approved. He mentioned a site plan and wondered if a copy had been
give to the Board members. He stated the site plan was a general
concept of what the building would look like. The site plan does not show
elevations. He stated that these are not Army barracks type facilities that
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would be built and that these are common structures with what is going on
throughout the United States. These buildings are three stories with
balconies and pitched roofs and would have a colonial type look. He
stated that the company has tried to encompass the wetland areas in
order to make it an expansion of the existing park that the City owns. In
reference to the City's property, he stated that the property is Parcel B
and that it is a dedicated park that is owned by the City of Lansing. The
company's only interest with that property was to help preserve it as a
park because it would be a viable buffer zone between the single family
neighborhood and the company's property. One of the questions was to
trade some of the company's wetlands for the park. He stated that there
is a formula which is a 2-to-1 ratio where the company could purchase the
property, for every one of the company's acres it would be two of the
park's acres. He stated that the company could put money into the park
to help preserve it rather than having the park as an open space. He
stated that the company's interest is to leave the park as is and if
anything, maybe upgrade it so it would be more of a user friendly park for
the neighborhood and for the company's development.
Christine Timmon, resident of 339 E. St. Joseph Apt. #3, stated that
she is representing citizens who are concerned about the developers
coming into the City and the developments where the City of Lansing has
about 500 houses that are in a blight status but qualify for rehabilitation
under Public Act 27. This was recently done and signed by the Governor.
The original bill is House Bill 4028 and it states that all cities must rehab
all blighting properties whether red tagged or not in 42 days to 119 days.
She is concerned that when developers come into the City, they don't take
into consideration how they can really help. She stated that Mr. Sabty
needs to ride around Lansing and see all the houses he can get for a
song and a dance. There are a couple of properties on Lenawee Street,
505 W. Lenawee and the property next door. She stated that there is a
developer right now who is turning these blighted properties into two new
single family dwellings. While the developers come in and build new
developments, all the blighted properties continue to be ignored. She
stated it is her belief that under the new Public Act 27, if anyone is injured
on a blighted property and they haven't been notified by the City, the City
could be liable for it.
She questioned why developers won't try to help the City to fill in the
blanks with these blighted properties and turn them into one family units
rather than building apartments and multiple dwellings, leaving all the
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City's good housing go to waste. The government is now saying that if
you can prove that you have the ability to take care of a blighted property,
you can send a letter to the City of Lansing specifying a particular property
qualifies under Public Act 27 as a blighted property. If they don't want to
fix it within the 119 days then they must sell the property to whomever for
forfeit by eminent novae. She hopes Mr. Sabty will take it to heart and
find out where these properties are located and help the City reestablish
itself as a city with some single family dwellings.
Charlene Decker, resident of 2711 Pleasant Grove Road, stated that
she is concerned about the dedicated parcel of land that is a park owned
by the City of Lansing and the trading of park land. She stated that the
property is a dedicated park and that it would involve the residents of
Lansing. As a resident of many years, she chose Lansing because of the
beautiful green space, pass of space and water ways. She stated that the
parks are an essence of Lansing and that too many things go out as a
negative by people about this city. We do have beautiful parks and river
front and she wants these treated with great delicacy when you talk about
anything being put away that is dedicated.
Belinda Fitzpatrick, resident of 224 S. Holmes Street, stated that she
wore her shirt that reflects Stop Eminent Domain Abuse and that she
received the shirt from the Institute for Justice, which is a public interest
law firm in Washington, D.C. She stated that eminent domain forfeiture is
unconstitutional and a violation of the 51h Amendment. She also would
prefer to see properties rehabilitated over land development. She stated
that when the developments occur, the City needs to evaluate whether or
not these developments will encourage the rehabilitation of other
properties. She is also concerned about the park land and the
compromise of the park land.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak on this matter, Mr. Frederick referred
Z-6-2002 to the next Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting to be held
on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 316 N. Capitol Avenue.
C. NCU-1-2002, 934 Clark Street, Request for Substitution and Class A
Status for a Nonconformity
This is a request by ARQ Inc. for a substitution of a nonconforming use
and Class A status for the property located at 934 Clark Street. The
applicant proposes to make approximately $50,000 in improvements to
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the subject building in order to change its use from a printing business to
an office that provides internet services. The subject property is currently
zoned "B" Residential and is nonconforming for parking and use.
Sue Stachowiak gave a brief overview.
Mr. Ruge stated that he visited the site and found a strange looking
building in a residential neighborhood. There was a general discussion
regarding the prior business activity of the building.
Mr. Ruge inquired about the nonconforming use and if granted, would
there be required buffering around the outside edge of the property. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that the Board could make the conditions of
improvements.
Mr. Ruge inquired about whether or not the vacant lot to the north of the
property was included. Ms. Stachowiak stated that the vacant lot it not
included in the request.
Dan Judd, 2875 Northwind Suite 205-D, stated that he is the owner of
ARQ, Incorporated. He stated that the empty lot next to the building had a
building on the property and was bought by the prior owner, Lansing
Lithographers, and that it was part of the sale. There was a house on the
property that at some point was condemned and then demolished a few
months ago. He stated that the company is not sure of the finalization of
the sale of the building so that it could be used as an office. The
company would like to have some green space or maybe expand to allow
for more parking. The company currently has five employees and at the
rate of adding one employee per year, the building may only allow up to
ten employees. At that time, the company may move to a larger facility or
make use of the other (telephone hubs) ???. As far as maintenance of
the building, the roof, chimney and interior plumbing are in disrepair, and
the offices would need some minor painting as well.
Mr. Ruge inquired about the use of computers in the building. Mr. Judd
clarified that there would be computers in the building and that the
company is very quiet. The company is a very low traffic business with
customers or web site designers visiting every couple of days. Currently
the company is doing off-site visits.
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Mr. Ruge inquired about an air conditioning system because of the
amount of computers being used in the building. Mr. Judd stated that
there are three air conditioning units in the building that are currently in
working order and that these units would be more than sufficient for the
company's needs.
Mr. Ruge inquired if the company would need a special type of telephone
system. Mr. Judd stated that a fiber DS-3 line would be added. He
stated that contact with Ameritech has already been established and that
Ameritech would have to pull the channel which is currently 1400 yards
from the access point. Ameritech has informed Mr. Judd that this would
not be a large undertaking. He stated that the company has a DS-3 line
at their current location.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak on this matter, Mr. Frederick referred
NCU-1-2002 to the next Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting to be
held on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 316 N. Capitol Avenue.
D. Ordinance Amendments, Front Yard Setbacks and Accessory
Structures
The front yard setbacks apply to all the residential districts except the
"DM-4" residential district. The "DM-4" residential district is the highest
density district and primarily involves high rise type developments. These
standards didn't apply to this district as they did to the other districts.
The accessory buildings and structures involves the larger lot sizes having
larger garage sizes in proportion to the lot.
Sue Stachowiak gave a brief overview.
Mr. Smith questioned the architectural compatibility requirement. He
stated that the additions should be compatible with architectural scale and
materials of the existing building and surrounding neighborhoods as
determined by the Planning Office. He questioned who would make the
final decision as to what is "architecturally compatible with surrounding
buildings." Mr. Ruff stated that with the idea of a compatible setback, the
Planning Office is looking at trying to maintain neighborhood appearance
in respect to style. There was a general discussion about the language
and final decisions of the setbacks.
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Mr. Frederick gave input on the Board of Zoning Appeals related
situations.
Christine Timmon, resident of 339 E. St. Joseph Apt. #3, stated that
she has worked with Mr. Ruff in the past on amendments, variances and
gravel driveways for some residents and not for others and that it sounds
arbitrary. She also stated that it sounds like the City is giving more leeway
towards the owners of the properties. She stated that Public Act 27
reflects that with these ordinances that you do, if the fines and fees on
them are what it causing the house to be in a blighted state or abandoned
because the owner cannot pay the fines and fees, then you cannot use
arbitrary decisions. She stated that Public Act 27 protects home owners
from arbitrary decisions. The City cannot arbitrarily continue to tell the
owners how to fix their property, add fines on the property that cannot be
paid and then have the house boarded. The only way the City can do this
is if a person builds their property and the City does not approve the
changes, the City will have to pay to have the property fixed.
Charlene Decker, resident of 2711 Pleasant Grove Road, stated that
she gets a little nervous when people start talking about compatibility,
conformity, and whether or not someone likes a natural fence. She likes
individuality. She stated her house is hers as long as it does not become
a danger to society. She also stated that there are enough complications
with the City's current ordinances and that these ordinances are being
turned into a criminal process. She considers the City's fines out of line
and stated that having one person make the ultimate decision does make
her nervous.
Belinda Fitzpatrick, resident of 224 S. Holmes Street, stated that it is
hard to balance the rights of an individual in the community verses the
rights of the community or rights of other individuals in the community.
Before the City resorts to using the law and the rule of law for fines, fees
and ordinances, the City should try to raise public appreciation regarding
the street scape and architecture. She stated that you can ruin a
neighborhood by not coordinating things and that the way to approach the
issue is not through the law but through increased awareness.
Beverly Miller, resident of 413 Pearl Street, questioned if accessary
garages and storage buildings must be consistent with principle structures
and color, architecture and materials, this would mean an owner could not
build a concrete garage or wooden structured home. She stated that the
garage and house would have to be in contrast with each other and that
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she wondered what happened for the City to go to this extreme. Mr.
Frederick commented that a number of applications were brought before
the Board of Zoning Appeals for variances and that this was the initiative
behind the modification of these ordinances. There was a general
discussion regarding the building structure and colors of homes. She
stated that her home is over one hundred years old and that it is Victorian
with gables. Her garage is very simple but does not match her house.
She stated that the City should be able to mix materials, color and
structures.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak on this matter, Mr. Frederick referred
the Ordinance Amendments to the next Zoning and Ordinance Committee
meeting to be held on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 316 N. Capitol
Avenue.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE
John Pollard, resident of 1718 Blair Street, stated that he is opposed to the
marketing and selling of the Thelma Osteen Comfort Street Station. He stated
that the Parks and Recreation Department did not realize that this property
belonged to them until the lease expired for the North Lansing Community
Association. He is a firm believer in the Charter that says no park, recreation,
cemetery or water front property will be sold without the vote of the people
whether the property is dedicated or designated. He stated that the Park Board
on February 20, 2002 voted 3-2 and stated that the Park Board violated the
Open Meeting Act because the Board denied the public the right to speak after
two people completed their verbal comments.
He stated that the Park Land Policy Resolution of December 10, 1979 created
the 1981 Inventory List and that the Land Policy Act explains the development,
disposal of and encroachment on park property. He stated that the object of any
such sale or transfer should be with the purpose of improving the park system of
the City of Lansing and not for the benefit of private development or interest.
Such proposed disposal should be reviewed by the Park Board, Planning Board
then with the recommendation to the Mayor to make sure it is at City Council
before they act on it. He stated the key here was not for the benefit of private
development and that this is his understanding of the Act 285 review. He
believes the North Lansing Community Association should have the first right of
refusal if the property is sold. This building was built in 1914-1916 and is one of
the few Georgian-American architectural styles left in the City of Lansing.
Between 1975 and 1979 the NLCA saved this building from demolition. The City
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of Lansing met with the NLCA and was able to have this building and other
buildings listed on the national register. Then the City of Lansing met with the
NLCA and applied for Federal CDBG money to renovate the building. In order
for the NLCA to keep receiving Federal Grant money, they had to agree to
assume all responsibility for costs of interior renovations to bring the building up
to code requirements, utility costs, maintenance repairs, liability and insurance
which have totaled over$50,000. He stated that the City of Lansing has not put
any money into the building since the date of purchase. He also stated that
people should be talking about the history of the building, the ordinances, Land
Policy Acts and how the City could keep this building. The NLCA has kept this
building. The Parks and Recreation Department cannot not afford to keep the
building and there is no staff for the building. He stated that the NLCA should be
given a long term lease and that if the property has to be sold, it should go to the
NLCA or it will go for the vote of the people.
Charlene Decker, resident of 2711 Pleasant Grove Road, stated that she had
been invited to the Comfort Station Christmas party and that it was the most
beautiful, simplistic and spiritual Christmas party. The gifts were purchased by
the North Lansing Community Association members who have kept the building
upgraded all these years. Those in the community in north Lansing contribute so
much not in words but in actions. The residents have made the community live
and breath and this is what the residents want. She stated that she has
problems with some of the neighborhood associations decreeing things that not
everyone in the community is able to vote on but one would think they had voted.
She loves the City of Lansing and she doesn't feel that she belongs on the
southwest side. She belongs to the whole of Lansing and so does everyone
else. The Comfort Station is very important to her and she is concerned about
whose hands it would be best kept. The NLCA has taken care of the building
year after year and has nurtured it and no one in the City has ever commented
on the work that had been done. The NLCA rehabilitated the building on their
own without asking the City for money. If anyone has decency, honesty and
integrity for Lansing, they would not take this building away from the NLCA
because the organization has earned the right to keep the building.
Brian Smith, resident of 1007 Woodbine, stated that he is the Chairman for
the group, Citizens for a Better Lansing and that this group has the City in the
Appeals Court over the Genesee Park case. He is also affiliated with the Home
Town Happenings TV Show that is on every Wednesday night, cable access,
Channel 16 from 10:30 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. He stated that tonight's Planning
Board meeting will be on aired on the station April 10, 2002 with the deliberations
regarding the Comfort Station issue. He urged the Planning Board to make the
right choice whether it is giving the North Lansing Community Association a long
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term lease of the building or sell it to them for $1.00. He wants the Planning
Board to reject the Act 285 Review because the Comfort Station property is a
dedicated park property and it cannot be sold without a vote of the people. He
was told by an Assistant City Attorney that the word "dedicated" means what the
Lansing Codified Ordinances says it means and that these are found on the
internet. He stated that "dedication" means the intentional appropriation of land
by the owner to public use and that the property was intentionally appropriating
the Comfort Station to public use. He read from the City Charter: "The most
significant changes specifically delineate the rolls and the authority of the Mayor,
the Council, the City Boards and City Departments assigned clear line through
accountability and responsibility to each and establish safe guards which
protects citizens against the misuse of authority." On the next page, he stated
that the citation is very clear and that "this proposed Charter requires a vote by
the people prior to the sale of any park, recreational, cemetery or river front
property, all other property purchased or sold by the City with an assessed value
$50, 000 or more will be subject to a public hearing prior to any purchase or
sale." He stated that the Act 285 review is a blatant misuse of City authority and
that under the Act 285 review process, he inquired about whether there are any
parks in the City of Lansing that would require a vote of the Electorate before
being sold. He stated that no one at the Parks Board could answer this question
and that he would appreciate it if someone from the Planning Board could
answer the question. He has followed this case since it originated in November
2001 and that he spent three hours in the library researching the history of the
Comfort Station from 1913-1968. At the Parks Board meeting on February 20,
2002 there was a 3-2 vote for the review and that the facilitator, Mr. Wilbur
Howard, did not participate in any votes until the motion was favorable for what
Mr. Jemerson and Mayor's Assistant Bob Johnson. Everything that was helpful
for the North Lansing Community Association was a 2-2 vote and Mr. Howard
totally abstained from voting. The NLCA has had the building for 20 years with
each lease being 5 years. He questioned why the Act 285 review now has to be
done and why was it not questioned in 1987, 1992 and 1997 when the NLCA
was given the 5 year leases. He stated that the NLCA is an example of an
association that has been self sufficient, paid the bills for the property, and now
are swept out on the streets. He encouraged the Planning Board Members to do
the right thing, whether it is leasing the building to the NLCA for a long term
lease or selling the property to them for $1.00. He asked the Planning Board
members to send the right and correct message to Mr. Jemerson, Mr. Johnson,
Mr. Howard and Mayor Hollister that the Planning Board does not believe in
violating the City Charter.
Belinda Fitzpatrick, resident of 224 S. Holmes Street, stated that there is a
sense of community in the neighborhood surrounding the Comfort Station
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property. She also attended the Christmas Party that was held at the Comfort
Station and that the spirit of the party and the energy of the building was
wonderful. She stated that the building should be for community use and that it
is a valuable asset to the community. She would prefer the City retain ownership
of the property and that community property is best owned by the City and made
available to the community. She stated that if the building would be sold, there
should be a right of first refusal given to the North Lansing Community
Association, and that the NLCA should have the right to purchase the property
before it is offered to others. Considering the amount of investments put into the
building by the NCLA and if the City were to sell the property, it would be unjust
enrichment. "Unjust enrichment" is a legal term meaning somebody put so much
work into something that they should be entitled to the fruit of their work, and if
the City sold the property, the proceeds from the property should go to the NLCA
to help them relocate. Even though there are other buildings, the Comfort
Station holds a sentimental value to the NCLA. The NCLA is in love with and
has a spiritual bond with the Comfort Station. The building holds a lot of
emotional implications and to sell the property would tear apart the bond of the
community.
She stated that she did extensive research regarding Public Act 285. She gave
an example of the case in Grand Rapids, Nash vs. Grand Rapids, where the
people depended on state laws because the Charter did not address the issues.
She stated that the state law says the City cannot sell a park without a vote of
the Electorate, except for where the park is not required to be a park by the
Master Plan. If the City relied on state law, a Master Plan review would be
initiated pursuant to Public Act 285. The Charter is very similar in language to
the State law. The beginning is the same stating, "A park property will not be
sold without a vote of the people" but does not reflect a requirement by the
Master Plan. She did extensive research at the City of Lansing Planning Office
where she reviewed the Master Plan and a copy of the map. Under the Master
Plan, she stated that there are no required parks in the City. Under the Public
Act 285 Review, she concluded that there are no parks in the City that would
require a vote of the Electorate before the property is sold because the City does
not have a category specifying "required parks." The Master Plan does not list a
requirement of"required parks." She encouraged the Board members not to sell
the property and stated that if they choose to place the property for sale, have
the property go before the vote of the Electorate.
Edward Simmer, resident of 4245 W. Jolly Road, stated that he was the
former Chairman of Citizens for a Better Lansing and that all the officers of the
organization are against the sale of the Comfort Station. He was the individual
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who started a petition drive, after Ms. Osteen passed away, to have the Comfort
Station named in her honor, and that over 500 people signed the petition before
she was taken to her grave site. He stated that this is abomination and that this
building contains a lot history. He was upset because the City wants to sell the
property and he doesn't understand why. He was also upset because when he
drove by the Comfort Station, the name on the building only reflected North
Lansing and not the North Lansing Community Center. He stated that the same
thing that happened to Genesee Park is happening to the Comfort Station and
that he was the one who filed the law suit for Genesee Park and will file the law
suit for the Comfort Station. He encouraged the Planning Board to do the right
thing and sell the building to the North Lansing Community Association for $1.00.
He stated that the NLCA should have the first opportunity.
Sherry Shaw, resident of 403 Beaver Street, stated that she is the daughter of
Ms. Thelma Osteen and that she has been a member of the North Lansing
Community Association. She does not want to see the building sold and asked
the Board to consider leasing the building to the NLCA. She stated that there
are future plans to do more with the building and she questioned why the City
wanted to do away with the rental property. The property will always be taken
care of and with a lease, the City will also have the option to do something
different with the building at a later time.
Amy Hodgen, owner of a business at 416 N. Cedar Street, stated that she
wanted to remind everyone who Thelma Osteen was, and that without Ms.
Osteen, the City would not have the Dodge Mansion. When the Dodge Mansion
was scheduled for demolition, Ms. Osteen single-handedly stood up and stopped
the demolition and had to pay a $250.00 fine for mansion not being demolished.
While Ms. Osteen was living, the Comfort Station flourished and provided
different types of information about decisions, legal aid, etc. to the neighbors.
She stated that the North Lansing Neighborhood Association is a beautiful group
and that the building is also beautiful. She is not in favor of selling the Comfort
Station. She stated that Ms. Osteen was a very sweet and powerful woman and
that if she were still alive, she would not be happy with what is happening to the
Comfort Station. Ms. Hodgen stated that all groups have disagreements and
that the Comfort Station belongs to the NLCA. She indicated that the building is
self-sufficient and that there are festivals and other events held at the Comfort
Station. She stated that there are future plans for the building, with one of the
plans including a club for the children. She hopes that the Board will remember
Ms. Osteen and everything she had represented. She stated that the Comfort
Station is one of the oldest buildings in the City, and that it would be a pity to sell
the property for profit. She is in favor of the building being leased to the NLCA
who will continue to maintain the building. She hopes that the Board will take the
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decision seriously because the Comfort Station is a beautiful building and the
neighborhood does deserve to have it.
Beverly Marsh, resident of 331 Harriet Avenue, stated that she is a daughter
of Ms. Osteen and that from the beginning the Comfort Station was always taken
care of. The North Lansing Community Association started the Thelma Osteen
Youth Group but she is not sure if the youth will want to continue on in the future.
She questioned the Board about a new lease for the NLCA and that the
association has paid the taxes and maintained the building. She feels the
property should go as a lease and not a sale, and that if the property is offered
for sale, the NLCA should have the first right of refusal. She stated that the
Board should consider all that her mother did for the organization and that the
building still looks very nice. She stated that the building looks even better since
it has been in the hands of the NLCA. She vowed that she would help take care
of the problems that are within or without, whether in a court of law or done as
human beings. The NLCA is about helping and caring for the community and
the neighborhood. She stated that she will not bend and do things wrong to
make someone happy and that the NLCA will go by rules and bylaws. There will
not be any more secret meetings and as long as there is breath in her, she will
be just like her mother. She wants peace and unity at the Comfort Station and
everyone working towards what her mother had built, an association to help the
people. She hopes the Board will take all this into consideration and that she
would like to see the NLCA and their belongings back at the Comfort Station and
fully functional.
Becky Weck, resident of 213 Douglas Avenue, stated that she is a daughter of
Ms. Osteen. She remembered attending the North Lansing Community
Association meetings with her dad when her mother was alive and that her
mother fought for what she thought was right. Her mother wanted to see the
north end of Lansing become a better place. She stated that she was at the
Comfort Station earlier. All the NLCA's belongings are out of the building, and
the association's name had been taken off the building. The NLCA has no place
to hold their meetings and that the building had been used in the past for
dinners, funerals, meetings, and Christmas parties which included Christmas
gifts for the less fortunate children. She wants the property referred to as the
Thelma Osteen Comfort Station as it was dedicated to her mother in her honor.
She remembered her mother walking the streets and pounding on doors. She
stated that the Comfort Station is a gathering place for the community in the
north end of the City and that the building should be kept in tact. She was
frustrated because the NLCA had to hold their meeting outside the building on
the streets.
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Beverly Miller, resident of 413 Pearl Street, stated that the North Lansing
Community Association would like to purchase the property for a nominal sum of
$1.00 and that the NLCA did meet the requirements for the 1980 Federal Grant
that was secured to help rehabilitate the property. The NLCA agreed to pay all
the costs that were not covered by the Federal Grant to bring the building up to
code, and they paid for all interior renovations. From 1980 to present, the
property has increased in value from $6,000 to $75, 000 according the City's
survey. Every lease the NLCA has had with the City stated that the NCLA is to
be responsible and pay all the utilities, maintenance, repairs and insurance. The
NLCA has paid all the expenses without the help of grant and city subsidy
monies. The NLCA is a volunteer group with no paid staff. Every lease has also
stated that the property is intended to be cost free to the City of Lansing and to
her knowledge, the City has expended no funds. She stated that Mr. Emil
Winnicker (City of Lansing, Development Office ) explained to Ms. Miller that
over the last 22 years, $3,000 had been spent on the building while the NLCA
had leased the property. The NLCA occupied, maintained and improved this
property from 1980 to March 2002 and on March 7, 2002, received a notice
stating they had to find new space for their personal property and turn in all keys
by March 28, 2002. There was misinformation about the NLCA not having to
vacate the building and at a Committee of the Whole meeting on March 7, 2002
where Mr. Johnson, Chief of Staff, clearly stated that the NLCA had to move all
their personal property and turn in the keys by March 28, 2002. She questioned
the Board about the sale of the building. Mr. Ruff stated this is just an evaluation
as to whether or not to sell the property and that this is not a decision to put the
property up for sale. Mr. Ruff also stated that this is the information gathering.
Ms. Miller stated that once the building is offered for sale and if the Board's
recommendations go to the City Council, the City Council has to have a 2/3 vote
in order to sell the property. The vote will not reflect where the building will go or
whether or not the NLCA will be able to acquire the property. She questioned
whether the property would be acquired by the Parks Department and if so,
would the Parks Department lease the property to NLCA. She stated that if the
building was going to be leased, it would have been leased to the NLCA by now.
She stated that the Board's recommendations would make the difference as to
whether or not the NLCA would be able to acquire the property.
Christine Timmon, resident of 339 E. St. Joseph Apt. #3, stated that she has
attended most of the meetings regarding the Comfort Station and that the North
Lansing Community Association has moved all their belongings out of the
building. She feels the City has its own plan for the property and that there is
nothing anyone can do or say that will stop the City from doing what they want to
do. She suggested to the citizens of Lansing to do the best they can and not
spend a whole lot of money in attorney fees because once they have paid the
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fees they have already lost. She stated that these little issues can be handled
and that it would only cost a person $30 to file a case in Circuit Court. Then the
case would be held up for 3-5 years in court. She does not foresee the City
returning the property to the NLCA and that there are a lot of blighted buildings in
the City. She stated that the City may have to help the NLCA rehabilitate an old
building if the NLCA could put out a certain amount of money.
Ben Genns, resident of 1401 Center Street, stated that he has lived at this
address his whole life and that he had grown up with the North Lansing
Community Association in this area. Some of his earliest memories of Christmas
were parties at the Comfort Station. On Monday, April 1, 2002, he was with his
dad helping to move the last of the NLCA's belongings out of the Comfort
Station. Looking at the empty hall, he remembered people visiting with one
another and enjoying themselves not realizing that later they would leave and
never see each other again. He stated that the NLCA has done more for this
area than anyone else and that even though they did not produce numbers, the
NLCA had an affect on the community. He asked the Board to do the NLCA a
favor and give them the property.
Seeing no one else wishing to address the Board, Mr. Frederick closed the
public comment period.
6. RECESS was taken by the Board.
7. BUSINESS SESSION
Mr. Frederick stated for the record that Ms. Foster arrived at 7:10 p.m. after role
was taken and that she will be present for the duration of the meeting.
A. Ms. Keene moved; seconded by Mr. Smith to approve the minutes of
March 19, 2002 without corrections. On a voice vote, motion carried (6-0),
the minutes of March 19, 2002 were
APPROVED.
B. Committee Reports
1. ZONING AND ORDINANCE COMMITTEE, Mr. Ruge, Chair
Next meeting, Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
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2. URBAN DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, Ms. Patrick, Chair
a. Act-27-2001, 313 E. Grand River Ave., Comfort Station,
Market for Sale
This is a request to consider whether the City should market
the property for sale, or retain ownership. It is not to consider
a specific offer to purchase the building. The application
itself was submitted by the Development Office on behalf of
the City. This Act 285 Review is a fact-finding report and
investigation to help determine whether or not the City
should continue owning the building. Information was
gathered from the various agencies and departments of the
City to determine any possible interest in the structure and
comments from the public at the public hearing held by the
Planning Board. Since the lease of the building by NLCA
expired on 12-31-01, the Department of Parks and
Recreation has requested that the Act 285 Review be
conducted to market the property for sale and is
recommending that the City dispose of the property by
getting it out of public ownership.
The property is zoned "F-V Commercial Zoning District
which allows for a variety of uses, including office and
commercial use. A "private club, fraternal organization or
lodge hall" is also included in the various "principal uses"
permitted in the zoning district. The types of uses that are
possible in the "F-1" District are attached. The building is
located on a relatively small parcel with the building taking
up most of the property. On-site parking is therefore not
available. A public alley exists along the north side of the
building. A public parking lot, available at Grand River and
Turner Street, provides plenty of parking for this commercial
district. The site includes equipment behind the Comfort
Station which is used under license by Sharp Technology for
a radio system and antennae to control the storm water
system for that area. This license for such equipment
nominal fee will have to continue on with any possible sale
of this property.
The two-story building is located within the North Lansing
Historic Commercial District on the National Register of
Historic Places. Such a designation does not protect the
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building from demolition, but does afford it some tax
incentives for rehabilitation through preservation tax credits.
A public hearing was held by the Lansing Planning Board on
11/20/01 at which eleven members of the public spoke. The
Parks Board took its action on 2/20/02 "to support the (Parks
& Rec) staff's recommendation to continue to proceed with
the Department of Planning and Neighborhood
Development's Act 285 review for the sale of the Comfort
Station."
Staff recommends approval of Act-27-01, the marketing for
sale of the Comfort Station at 313 E. Grand River Avenue,
zoned "F-V Commercial with the understanding that:
a. The building be sold to community group or groups
for broad based community use, reserving historic
facade easements in perpetuity, and a reverter clause
to ensure that community use will continue with the
building.
b. The City should manage the property for community
use until time of sale.
C. The license for Sharp Technologies' equipment will
need to be accommodated in any transaction
regarding the property.
Staff also suggests that the name of the building remain as
"Thelma Joyce Osteen Comfort Station" as designated by
City Council Resolution.
In Committee it was moved, seconded and carried
unanimously (3-0) to recommend approval of Act-27-01,
313 E. Grand River Ave., Comfort Station, Market for Sale.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Ms. Patrick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to recommend approval of
Act-27-01, 313 E. Grand River Ave., Comfort Station, Market for Sale with
conditions.
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There was a general discussion regarding the Comfort Station being open for public
use and the recommendation of a possible reverter clause to ensure that community
use occurs with the conditions thereunder.
Mr. Ruge stated that the North Lansing Community Association managed and occupied
the Comfort Station for more than 20 years and questioned why there was no
recommendation to sell the property to the NLCA for their continued use. There was a
general discussion regarding the possible sale of the building and the community use of
the building.
There was a general discussion regarding the City's liability for the Comfort Station.
Mr. Phil Dorland, Deputy Director of Parks and Recreation, gave a brief overview of
which parks are staffed. He stated that the director of Parks and Recreation is taking
the position that he does not want to pull the Comfort Station back into the City's
budgetary process and have to maintain or provide paid staff for the building. Ms.
Foster inquired about the leasing of park property, and the liability issue. There was a
general discussion about the City's involvement in maintaining the Comfort Station.
A general discussion ensued about the distribution of the City's community centers and
if there was a center located near the Comfort Station to help fulfill the needs of the
community. Mr. Dorland stated that Gyer Park and the Turner-Dodge house are
nearby.
Mr. Ruge inquired about why the Parks and Recreation Department wants to divest
themselves of the Comfort Station property. He would feel more comfortable if the City
would have a plan in place to keep the property for community use before action would
be taken by the Board.
Ms. Foster asked if the liability and the burden of the Comfort Station were lifted off the
City, would the Committee feel the same.
Mr. Smith felt that as a Board they were being asked to provide an instrument for what
appears to him to be, on a personal level, a political issue. He stated that he doesn't
know all the history except for what was said tonight. The facts that were presented to
the Board appear to be a landlord/tenant type of situation. The lease has expired and
the landlord has chosen not to renew the lease, which is the landlord's prerogative.
Notwithstanding the efforts that the North Lansing Community Association has put into
the Comfort Station and without having detailed information about what really and truly
is motivating this request, the Board can only act based on the facts presented to the
Board. From a legal point of view, if the City does not want to renew the lease, there is
not a law that forces the City to renew the lease. Morally, maybe there is an obligation.
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Ms. Keene stated that based on the fact that the Board does have additional
information tonight which was not presented at the Committee meeting, and that
because a number of Board members have questions, she moves to table Act-27-01.
Ms. Keene made a motion, seconded by Mr. Ruge to table Act-27-01, 313 E. Grand
River Ave., Comfort Station, Market for Sale.
On a voice vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
TABLED.
b. Act-6-2002, SE Corner of Allegan & Townsend, Removal
of Two BWL Easements
The applicant, Boji Group L.L.C., requests that the City
vacate two BWL easements to facilitate a proposed new
office building and parking deck project. The two easements
were for electric, water and steam facilities serving the
Accident Fund of Michigan at 232 S. Capitol Avenue and
former YWCA building at 217 Townsend Street (see
attached graphics for specific locations). The YWCA was
established in 1927. The building was demolished in
December 2000.
An Act 285 is required to vacate the easements for the
parcels described in the attachments, with final action by
City Council.
According to Public Service, the vacation of the two BWL
easements will have no impact on their services.
City Council held a public hearing on April 16, 2001 for a
Special Land Use Permit (SLU-2-01) to construct an off-
street parking lot at 217 Townsend Street in the "G-1"
Business District. SLU-2-01 was approved.
The steam line in the ROW would interfere with a zero lot
line (permitted in the "G-1" Business District).
The location of the proposed vacations of the two BWL
easements will not affect service by other utilities. The
character of the area and future land use designation is a
mixture of commercial, office and parking use and will not
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change as a result of this proposal. No significant impact on
vehicular or pedestrian circulation is anticipated. Also, there
will be no anticipated impact on the environment associated
with the vacations of the two BWL easements. The location,
character and extent are reasonable.
Staff recommends approval of Act-6-02, with the vacations
of the BWL easements at the SE corner of Allegan &
Townsend Streets, contingent upon approval by
resolution(s) of the Board of Water and Light
Commissioners.
In Committee it was moved, seconded and carried
unanimously (3-0) to recommend approval of Act-6-02, SE
Corner of Allegan & Townsend, Removal of Two BWL
Easements.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Ms. Patrick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to recommend approval of
Act-6-2002, SE Corner of Allegan & Townsend, Removal of Two BWL Easements.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Foster. . . Ave
Keene . .Ave Patrick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
Smith. . .Ave Ruge . .Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED.
Next meeting, Tuesday, April 23, 2002, at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
3. Committee of the Whole - None.
4. Executive Committee - None.
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C. REPORT FROM PLANNING MANAGER
1. Commissioner Training Workshops for the Historic District
Commission.
2. On April 16, 2002 there will be a hearing for consideration of the
Wolverine Pipe Line application, referred to the Planning Board by
the City Council. The Board chose to have a special meeting at
7:00 p.m. on April 23, 2002 after the 6:00 p.m. Urban Development
Committee meeting.
D. PENDING ITEMS (future action required)
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a. Z-1-Yd, 1223 N. I urner St.,"H"Light Industrial District to"G-1"Business District
b. 5Tabled February 11 19981l
-5-98,401-407 E. Grand fiver,"F"Commercial District to'G-1"Business
District(Tabled June 10, 1998)
C. Z-8-2000,3901 S. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.,"F"Commercial to"H" Light
Industrial District(Tabled June 14,2000)
d. Z-15-2000, 301 W. Lenawee Street, Professional Office to"G-1"Business
District(Tabled January 17,2001
e. P-1-2001,Tentative Preliminary lat,Wexford Woods (Tabled June 13, May 9,
2001)
f. PRD-2-01,"Crystal Woods", Planned Residential Neighborhood (Tabled August
15,2001)
g. SLU-6-0 517-519 E. Grand River Ave., Church in"F-1"Commercial District
(Tabled November 14,2001)
h. SLU-8-01, 3000 W. Miller Road,Additional Parking for an Existing Church
(Tabled November 14,2001)
i. SLU-1-2002 1400 Block,W.Jolly Road,Special Land Use Permit-New Church
2. Urban Development committee
a. Act-9-2000,201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj. Sign Over ROW (Tabled June 27,
2000)
b. Act-27-01,313 E. Grand River Ave. (Comfort Station), Market for Sale(Tabled
November 27,2001)
C. Act-2-02, Lansing Housing Commission Property, 310 Seymour,Acquisition for
public purposes (Tabled February 26,2002)
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planning Board
8. NEW BUSINESS
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Ms. Foster inquired about tabling the Comfort Station and stated that she would
like to visit the property. Mr. Ruff stated the building is locked and the keys are
with the Parks and Recreation Department.
Mr. Ruge inquired about what criteria the Commission used in their ruling on the
denial of the pipeline through Meridian Township. Mr. Ruff stated that he has a
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copy of the Public Service Commission's staff report for the pipeline, and that the
report was later withdrawn. Mr. Ruff had requested information regarding the
discussion of the withdrawal but was denied the information. He is now
exploring other options for obtaining the information.
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 10:01 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
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