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APPROVED W/CORRECTIONS ON JULY 17,2001.
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
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LANSING PLANNING BOARD t=3
7 p.m., City Council Chambers
Tenth Floor, Lansing City Hall
124 West Michigan Avenue r..�
Tuesday, July 3, 2001
1. OPENING SESSION:
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chairman Keene.
A. Roll Call. Present: Foster, Frederick, Keene, Ruge, Smith. Five
members present; two vacant seats.
B. Absences - One (Ms. Patrick asked for an excused absence. Motion
made by Frederick, supported by Foster. Approved.)
C. Introductions. William Rieske, Principal Planner, introduced Susan
Stachowiak, Zoning Administrator.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA. Moved by Mr. Ruge, supported by Mr. Smith. Motion
carried.
3. COMMUNICATIONS
a. Memorandum by Fire Chief Martin asking for a motion to table Act-13-01.
b. Flyer for Lugnuts game
4. HEARINGS -
a. Z-10-01, 722 West Saginaw Street, Rezoning from "F" Commercial to
"C" Residential District.
Sue Stachowiak presented the case. This is a request from Lawrence
Park, owner of 722 W. Saginaw Street, to rezone the property from "F"
Commercial to "C" Residential. The property currently contains a two-unit
residential structure which is permitted in the "C" Residential District.
What the applicant would like to do is zone the property for what it is
currently being used as, in order to bring it into compliance with the
zoning. Nothing is proposed to change as far as the use of the property
or anything physical on the property. The property is surrounded on the
north and west by "C" Residential and has one lot zoned "F" Commercial
to its east. It is surrounded on three sides by "C" Residential.
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Mr. Ruge asked if Lansing Auto Supply is next door?
Sue Stachowiak replied "yes".
Mr. Ruge asked what uses are in the block between Chicago and
Wisconsin?
Sue Stachowiak stated that it is a mixture of commercial and residential.
She said that she would provide that information at the Zoning and
Ordinance Committee meeting.
Ms. Foster asked why the property was zoned "F" if it has been used for
residential?
Sue Stachowiak stated that the property directly east is zoned "F"
because it is, of course, a business, but why this property was zoned "F"
is unknown.
Ms. Keene closed the hearing. This case was referred to the Zoning and
Ordinance Committee for its meeting on July 11th at four o'clock p.m. in
the conference room at the Planning Department, 316 N. Capitol Ave.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (5 minutes each)
TODD COCKRIN, 419 S. WASHINGTON PRESIDENT OF THE FIRE FIGHTER
LOCAL 421, concerning Act-12-01, the sale or impending sale of Fire Station #4
on Pennsylvania Ave. We, the Lansing fire fighters are opposed to this plan.
We think it is premature at this time since there has not been any acquisition of
property for a new Station #4. We also feel that there are pieces of this puzzle
that the Planning Board might not be aware of. It is the Chief's plan to close
Station #4 and move it closer to Station #9 which is located on Glendale and at
that point, close Station #9 and combine the two Stations. We are vehemently
opposed to this. We believe it comes down to a matter of response time for
those areas. The chief will tell you that we meet the ISO's standards, and that's
one of the reasons that our insurance rates are as good as they are in Lansing,
but he will also tell you that this will not hurt our response time. Currently we
meet those standards by a great deal. We can respond, for the most part,
anywhere in the city in three to four minutes. We believe that with the closing of
these two stations, building a new station, and eliminating #9 station would,
indeed, hurt our response times. The bond that was passed by the citizens of
Lansing was to building new stations and repair existing stations. As you our
aware, the old #10 station on Pleasant Grove and Farrow has been closed and a
new station has been built at the corner of Pleasant Grove and Jolly. It is a
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beautiful facility, but it was simply one station for another. Thank you very much
for your time.
LORETTA STANAWAY, 546 ARMSTRONG RD. I am here also to speak about
Act-12-01 and Act-13-01. 1 feel as the firefighters do, that closing station #4 and
relocating it to the Richter's site is a very dangerous and unwise choice by virtue
of the fact that, whatever the chief says, in reality, it would increase response
times as the union president just mentioned. Typical response times for the
majority of the runs that station currently makes are south of its present location,
and they typically can get to most places in two and a half to three, three and a
half minutes. You will hear Chief Martin talk repeatedly about four minute
circles, however, that represents an increase over what they currently are
running. There are safety concerns also in front of Richter's. That is the busiest
site that he could possible come up with, within the region of that service area, to
put a new fire station. There is a tremendous amount of traffic, it's very dense
and very heavy at most times of the day. The Cedar and Jolly intersection is
one of the top two busiest intersections in the city and one of the top two most
accident prone in the city. Also, the Richter site represents an extremely high
cost, especially compared to other options that are available. Another thing that
needs to be taken into consideration is liability. We live in a very litigious
society. If this board and the City Council choose to go ahead and put a new fire
station at the Richter's Garden site after being repeatedly advised about the
safety issues, the very first time there is an accident involving a city vehicle,
whether it was caused by or involved in, I can just see the lawyers popping out
of the woodwork. The City would have a hard time defending a liability claim if if
ignores the warnings that it is a very risky place to put a station. There is
nothing that says that all three of the new stations the Chief wants to build, need
to be a large, or as expansive in green space or be drive-through facilities. This
is just a choice that he has made. The public has had no input on this, the
firefighters have had no input on this. You are driving up your costs for
purchasing property and your costs for building a site based on the assumption
that these need to all be the same build, and that is not a valid assumption. As I
asked during the Urban Development Committee meeting last Tuesday, and got
no answer or response from Chief Martin, I am wondering why he would be
putting this plan of his into motion. It is apparent that he has a plan to reduce
the number of fire stations from nine down to six, thereby, increasing response
times. This would be a viable option if the city was in dire financial straits, which
is not the case. The city is sitting on a rainy-day fund of untold proportions and
there is no financial need to reduce these the number of stations at the cost of
public property and people's lives. I also want to question why station four
would be going on the market before a new site has been secured, when station
six's old site just went on the market in May. This is one man's vision driving the
whole process and the public has had no input in this. When they hear what the
plan is, I have a strong hunch that they are going to be very, very much against
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his proposal to close stations, relocate stations and increase response time
throughout the city. Thank you.
JERRY DUNN, A RESIDENT OF THE CITY AS WELL AS A MEMBER OF
LOCAL 421. Regarding Act-12-01, the sale of Fire Station # 4. The current
station was built in 1965, which makes it 36 years old. It is a structure made of
brick, mortar and reinforcement rod. I would think it should last more than 36
years. Most wood frame houses do much better than that. Its location appears
to be rather well situated, considering its proximity to 1-96 as well as Jolly and
Cedar. It is a direct route to Edgewood which is one of the areas that is
becoming more built up and demanding more of our responses. Our codes are
increasingly requiring sprinkler systems, which means that many of the new
structures that are going in, the commercial structures, are less likely to require
a full response. Our population for residential is decreasing, yet we are talking
about building huge stations. Just to purchase the land even before building
begins would be several hundred thousand dollars which possibly might be
better suited being put into existing stations at a reduced rate. I hope that you
will deliberate and make the best possible decision, as though it were your own
money that you were spending. Thank you.
Seeing no one wishing to comment further, Chairperson Keene declared the
comments from the audience section closed.
6. RECESS - None.
7. BUSINESS
A. Minutes for Approval: June 19th 2001
Moved by Mr. Frederick, supported by Mr. Ruge. Motion carried, minutes
approved.
APPROVED
B. Committee Reports
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee - Mr. Ruge, Chairman.
a. The next Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting will be
on July 11th, 2001 at 4pm, 316 N. Capitol Ave.
2. Urban Development Committee - Mr. Smith, Chairman.
a. Act 12-01 5550 S. Pennsylvania Ave. Marketing of the
fire station for sale.
Mr. Smith read from the Urban Development Committee
Report. Donna Wynant presented the case. Fire Chief
Martin was present on behalf of the Fire Department. The
Fire Department is requesting permission to market the
existing fire station at 5550 S. Pennsylvania Ave. Both the
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building and the site are too small for current needs and
alternate sites are being considered. According to a recent
appraisal the value of the property is estimated at $375,000.
The chief recommends that the proceeds from the sale be
applied to the marketing of this property and future property
acquisition. The south-east area comprehensive plan
designates this area for commercial land use property zone
G2 wholesale and J parking. Property measure 100.4 ft
wide along Pennsylvania by 261.85 ft deep and is 26,195 sq
ft, approximately .06 acres in size. 911 emergency tower is
located on the site and arrangements for final location must
be considered. City Council is responsible for final
decisions regarding sale of the property. The next comment
in light of the comments that were made earlier this evening
is germane: no one at the June 51h 2001 Planning Board
public hearing or at the June 261h 2001 Urban Development
Committee meeting spoke against this proposal. Staff
recommends approval of Act-12-01, the marketing and sale
of the fire station property located at 5550 S. Pennsylvania
Ave., for uses that are permitted in the "G-2" Wholesale
District. Committee found based on its review of the
location character and extent of that Act-12-01 in
accordance with Act 285 Review procedures, that:
1) The fire station is too small for current needs,
2) The property will be surplus due to the anticipated
construction of the new fire station on the south side
of Lansing. The city will not cease operations at the
present location until fire protection services can be
provided at another location.
3) The 911 tower will be relocated to an alternate site if
feasible. If the tower remains on site then an
ownership usement or leasehold interest in the tower
supports and equipment will need to be retained to
secure access and service the tower.
4) A site plan will be required from the buyer for review
and approval by city agencies.
5) City council approval is required for sale of the
property.
It was moved by Ms. Keene, seconded by Ms. Patrick to
recommend approval of Act-12-01 for fair market value
provided that if the 911 equipment tower remain on site then
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an ownership, easement or leasehold interest in the tower,
supports and equipment shall be retained to secure access
in service to the tower. On a voice vote the motion carried
unanimously (3-0). 1 so move this evening.
Mr. Smith made a motion, seconded by Mr. Frederick to approve Act 12-01.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows.
Ms. Foster said Chief Martin said that station had outlived its usefulness as a fire
station. How has it outlived its usefulness? Is it too small for the trucks, or not enough,
you know . . . what is it about it that's not useful?
Mr. Smith said I understood that one reason they wanted to move is to be able to
accommodate some of the newer ladder trucks which are longer, and the idea of having
a drive through apparently allows greater access egress and ingress. Also, the
situation of where the trucks have to back into the site, where they have to pull out onto
Pennsylvania Ave. and back into the building.
Ms. Foster said I do have a "sideways" concern in that the fire trucks are getting longer,
I don't know whether they need to be, but it's also forcing increases in some of the
radiuses for the city streets and things, so do we need to go in the direction of larger
trucks?
Mr. Rieske said it was also said at the public hearing on June 5th that although the
structure is sound, the height of the truck bay is inadequate for some of the equipment,
so as well as the physical space, so there is not just the length of the truck issue that
he was citing, but also the height of the truck.
Mr. Ruge said with the president of the fire fighters union, it sounds to me like there is
going to be some discussion with the fire chief about his plan for reconstructing our
facility, so I'm just wondering if it might be prudent for us to table this and let them sort
this out, because I don't think this is a priority. They're not going to sell the station
while before they built the other one or before they've found a place to put it, so I would
suggest that we table this and let the people who know what they are doing sort this out
and then come back to us. So I'll make a motion to do that.
Motion made by Mr. Ruge, supported by Ms. Foster to table.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Smith .Ave
Ruge. . . Ave Keene . Nay
Foster . . Ave
On a voice vote, the motion carried 4-1. TABLED.
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b. Act-13-01, 4801 S. Cedar
There was a letter and packet this evening from Mr. Martin
requesting that this be tabled, and I would move that it be
tabled this evening.
Moved by Mr. Smith, seconded by Mr. Ruge to table Act-13-01.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye Smith . .Ave
Ruge. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye Keene . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
Foster . . Aye
On a voice vote, the motion carried 5-0. TABLED.
C. Act-15-01, 303 N. Pennsylvania Avenue, NW corner of
Vine & Penn (PPN 3301-01-15-152-162), Encroachment
into Vine St. ROW.
Doris Witherspoon presented the case. Ferris Development
is converting this two unit structure into a single family
dwelling and request that the city vacate 4.2 plus or minus
feet of the Vine Street right of way to accommodate an
encroachment by a property located at 303 N. Penn. Ave. A
Classing non-conformity NCU-5-01 was approved for this
property by the Planning Board on June 5th 2001. The
structure located at 303 N. Penn. Ave., was built in 1917,
and encroaches 4.2 plus or minus feet into the Vine St. right
of way. The property at 303 N. Penn is zoned "DM-3"
Residential District and is regulated by Section 1256 of the
Zoning Code. Approval would authorize the encroachment
and help the future owners obtain financing to purchase the
property. The staff recommends that the existing
encroachment be permitted into the Vine St. right of way by
easement or license. In committee the finding was based on
its review of location, character and extent of Act 15-01 in
accordance with the Act 285 review procedures, that the
renovation of the structure at 303 N. Penn. will benefit the
community, and that authorizing the encroachment will help
future home owners to obtain financing to purchase the
property.
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It was moved by Ms. Patrick and seconded by Mr. Smith to
approve Act-15-01 to authorize the 4.2 foot encroachment
into the right of way on a voice vote the motion carried
unanimously 3-0 and I so move.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows.
Mr. Smith made the motion; seconded by Mr. Frederick to recommend approval of Act-
15-01, 303 N. Pennsylvania Avenue, NW corner of Vine & Penn (PPN 3301-01-15-152-
162), encroachment into Vine St. ROW by easement or license.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Smith . .Ave
Ruge. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Keene . • Ave
Foster . . Aye
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 5; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous;
d. Act-16-01, 1149 S. Washington Ave., Projecting Sign into
the Washington Ave. ROW
Mr. Rieske presented the case. Mark Ritzenhein,
representing owner Stephen P. Wolenski request
authorization for use of air rights over the sidewalk on the S.
Washington Ave. to install a projecting, brushed stainless-
steel sculptural sign fabricated to represent a musical tuning
fork on the front facade of the corner building of 1149 S.
Washington Ave. The sign proposed is approximately 5 ft. 6
in. long, 20 in. wide, and would project 4 ft. from the wall and
the bottom of the sign would be 11 ft. over the right of way.
Under the current sign ordinance the applicant would be
permitted two wall signs and two ground pole signs since
the property faces S. Wash. Ave., which is a minor arterial.
However, in this case, the setback requirements for ground
pole cannot be met. The subject building currently has a
frontage of 21.8 ft which would permit a total of 49 sq. ft. of
building sign area. In addition to the review under the act
285 section 14.213 the sign code only permits projecting
sign when the ground pole sign cannot be used. The
property at 1149 S. Washington Ave. is located in the
Riverpoint neighborhood commercial area outside the
capital central district. The building is located on a corner
lot and was constructed out to the property line. There is no
parking on site and no access available for a ground pole
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sign. Sign code regulates signs on private property, and Act
285 review with City Council authorization is required for
signs which project into city right of way except in the
Capital City Center District. The transportation office has
indicated that the minimum clearance should be 10 ft. above
grade and preferably 12 ft. for objects or structures over the
right of way; therefore, the minimum requirement is met.
Staff recommends approval of act 1601, authorized by a
license agreement to move rights over the sidewalk at 1149
S. Washington Ave. to install a projecting hand-brushed
stainless-steel sculptural sign providing that:
1) The sign shall not be less than 10 ft above grade nor
extend more than 4 ft into the S. Washington right of
way,
2) The applicant shall ensure that the sign will not cause
undue glare outside the applicant's property;
3) The installation of the sign is accomplished in such a
manner as to minimize the impact of historic
materials, be supported in the mortar and not the
brick, and the design of the building between the
upper windows and above the fascia board over the
entrace;
4) Public service may require the sign to be moved for
street, sidewalk and utility construction; and
5) The method of sign attachment shall be reviewed by
the Building Safety and be installed by a licensed
contractor.
The committee found based on its review of the location,
character and extent of Act-16-01 in accordance with its
Act285 review procedure that:
a. The proposed projecting sign meets the
dimensional requirements, the sign code and
the minimum clearance requirement for
projections over the sidewalk, and,
b. The site has no room for the ground pole sign
and a projecting sign is justified under the sign
ordinance.
It was moved by Ms. Keene, seconded by Mike Smith
to recommend Act-16-01, 1149 S. Washington Ave.
and on a voice vote the motion carried unanimously.
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PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows.
Mr. Ruge said in these pictures that we have in our report I notice that there is a tuning
fork on the front of this building.
Mr. Smith said it was a mock-up.
Mr. Ruge said I was wondering how you were going to enforce your condition about
putting bolts in the mortar if the sign was already up there, but I guess it's not. Okay.
The part of the building looks a million times better than it used to.
Ms. Foster said is this going to be lit at night?
Mr. Smith said I don't believe so, no.
Mr. Smith made the motion; seconded by Mr. Frederick to recommend approval of Act-
16-01, 1149 S. Washington Ave. (PPN-3301-21-257-985), Projecting Sing in
Washington Square Avenue ROW.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye Smith . .Ave
Ruge. . . Ave Keene
Foster . . Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 5; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous; Act 16-01 1149
S. Washington Ave. with five conditions as follows:
1) The sign shall not be less than 10 ft above grade nor extend more than 4
ft into the S. Washington right of way.
2) The applicant shall ensure that the sign will not cause undue glare
outside the applicant's property.
3) The installation of the sign is accomplished in such a manner as to
minimize the impact of historic materials, be supported in the mortar and
not the brick, and the design of the building between the upper windows
and above the fascia board over the entrance.
4) Public service may require the sign to be moved for street, sidewalk and
utility construction.
5) The method of sign attachment shall be reviewed by the [?] building
safety and be installed by a licensed contractor. The committee found
based on its review of the location, character and extent of Act 16-01 in
accordance with its Act 285 review procedure that
Mr. Smith said the only other point: there was a comment taken at the end of the UDC
meeting by Mr. Jerry Heathcote regarding Act 11-01. He was concerned that the parks
board's recommendation was not reflected in the draft license agreement. This was for
the women's crew facility, and Mr. Rieske said that he would notify the parks director of
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the city attorney's office. He also made a point that the city doesn't have to lease MSU
separate facilities, they could be combined into one.
Mr. Rieske said just on one thing. The night of the UDC meeting, I sent an e-mail to the
parks director and the city attorney about that language in the draft lease.
Mr. Frederick said I saw or read in the LSJ, 2 days after our meeting, comments that
there was money received, that there should be money available from MSU and I
noticed that there was a report from the MSU trustees were addressing the issue of a
$236 or $238 thousand dollar contract being left to a company in Bay City to build a
particular facility, that it was under consideration, so I'm curious. We heard testimony
that the $350,000 was all raised outside of MSU, so I was kind of surprised to see my
comments had gotten such quick attention that they had taken care of it.
Mr. Smith said I suspect it wasn't anything that I did, but it appears that there is more
money in that project available than we were led to believe, so perhaps they could
address the aesthetics of the structure in the second plan review process.
Next meeting, Tuesday, July 26, 2001, at 4 p.m.,
316 N. Capitol Avenue, Department Conference Room.
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Ms. Foster to resolve to the Committee of the
Whole, carried; unanimous.
3a. Committee of the Whole, Mr. fie Frederick, Chairman.
a. SLU-4-2001, 1601 East Cavanaugh
Sue Stachowiak presented the report. The applicant for this
project is John LeFevre of Fishbeck, Thompson, Carr &
Huber. She explained that this request deals with
construction in the 100 year floodplain, and therefore, a
public hearing is not required, just strictly the approval of the
planning board and then on to city council for there approval
also. The way the ordinance is written there is a whole
separate chapter in here on floor plan regulation. The two
criteria is approval by the public service dept. and approval
by MDEQ, and both of those entities have approved this
project. The permit in fact from MDEQ for the cut and fill
work has already been issued. A copy of the permit is in the
packet, and they have determined that no further permits are
required because the repulse buildings will be elevated
above the flood plain, the 100 year flood plain. Public
Service has reviewed the project in its entirety and has
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granted the approval. Staff is recommending that it be
approved, with the condition that the project complies with
the requirements of the City Engineer and Public Service
Department, compliance with requirements of the
Department of Environmental Quality and compliance with
requirements of all of the responding agencies.
Ms. Foster stated that the map indicates that the flood line is
now going to be moved closer to the lake.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that the 100 year floodplain as shown
on the FIRM maps will not change.
Mr. LeFevre stated that this property has been mined as a
gravel pit for 10 or 15 years prior to the Parks Department
buying it. He said the actual foot print and the landscape is
is completely different than when it was mapped as a flood
plain many years ago. After the Parks Department bought it,
there has been a lot of earthwork on the property for this will
be the third summer now trying to re-landscape and make it
usable as a park, and the footprint of the flood plain will be
dramatically different than what it is, or what it was before.
He said that the structures that have been submitted for
building permit are simple cement block buildings with
concrete floors. Mr. LeFevre stated that the sole purpose of
filling the area was not to get the elevation for the building,
but to create plateaus and useable space so it can be
developed as a park.
Mr. Ruge asked Mr. LeFevre why they do not just have the
flood plain map revised so that they would not need this
special land use?
Mr. LeVevre said that the timing of that process can take
anywhere from 18 months to 2 '/ years and given the nature
of the facilities and what the use of the property is going to
be, it was not worth that effort.
Mr. Ruge made a motion to approve SLU-4-2001 with the
following conditions,
1) Compliance with requirements of the city engineer
and public service department.
2) Compliance with requirements of the dept. of
environmental quality, and
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3) Compliance with requirements of all other responding
agencies.
It's moved by Mr. Ruge supported by Ms. Keene for
approval with conditions of SLU-4-2001. Motion Carries.
There being no other items for consideration by the Committee of the Whole, Mr. Ruge
made a motion, seconded by Ms. Foster, that the Committee do rise; carried;
unanimous.
3b. Committee of the Whole Report, Mr. Frederick, Chairman.
a. The committee met and discussed special language for
2001 to early development in a flood plain in Hawk Island
Park 160 Cavanaugh Rd. The committee moved to support
the commission, and I so move tonight.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows.
It was moved by Mr. Frederick, supported by Ms. Foster to approve SLU-4-2001 with 3
conditions:
1) Compliance with requirements of the city engineer and public service
department.
2) Compliance with requirements of the dept. of environmental quality, and
3) Compliance with requirements of all other responding agencies.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye Smith . .Ave
Ruge. . . Aye Keene . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye
Foster . . Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 5; Nays: 0; carried, unanimous; SLU-4-2001,early
development in a flood plain in Hawk Island Park 160 Cavanaugh Rd.
was APPROVED.
C. Report from Planning Manager
A couple of things that I wanted to draw your attention to. One is this
communication about the Lugnuts tickets. This is an opportunity for board
members and their guests. There's a request to RSVP to the planning
office by July 9th, which is Monday. The phone number is 483-4066.
Secondly, you have in your packet a regional vote choices for our future
project information. This provides basic information regarding the
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Regional Growth Plan B conducted by Tri-County Regional Planning
Commission, and it's a major project. It involves 78 government and a
whole lot of work. They will be having some community forums, town hall
forums. The second page provides a registration form to attend these
town hall forums. There is one in each county, one in Mason, one in
Charlotte, one in St. Johns, and then one for the urbanized Lansing/East
Lansing area at the Lansing Center on July 26t'. So, hopefully you
received these in the mail previously, directly from Tri-County. You are
invited to attend. Please RSVP to them. I think it's a very important
project and will have a lot of impact on our master plan. The one thing
about regional plans in Michigan particularly is there is very little
implementation except through aliment alignment by the local
governments to the regional plan, so it's important that the regional plan
be right in the first place.
We had an urban development committee meeting planned prior to this
meeting, and the city attorney was not able to respond in a way that we
could hold that meeting regarding act 14. We may be looking at a special
meeting prior to the planning board meeting on the 17tt', at 6:30.
D. Pending Items: Future action required
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a. Z-1-98, 1223 N. Turner St., "H" Light Industrial District to"G-1" Business District
(Tabled February 11, 1998)
b. Z-5-98, 401-407 E. Grand River, "F" Commercial District to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled June 10, 1998)
C. Z-8-2000, 3901 S. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd., "F" Commercial to"H" Light
Industrial District(Tabled June 14, 2000)
d. Z-15-2000, 301 W. Lenawee Street, Professional Office to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled January 17, 2001)
e. NCU-2-2001, 1000 W. Jolly, Deja Vu, Expand Nonconforming Use(Tabled
May 9, 2001)
f. P-1-2001, Tentative Preliminary Plat, Wexford Woods(Tabled June 13, May 9,
2001)
g. PRD-1-2001, Edgewood Villas, 19-plus acres, 1000-1200 Block Edgewood
Blvd., Planned Residential Development
2. Urban Development Committee
a. Act-9-2000, 201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj. Sign Over ROW(Tabled June
27, 2000)
b. Act-14-01, Capital Area United Way, 1300 Blk. W. Washtenaw, Lots 34&35,
Assessors Plat#9(Tabled June 26, 2001)
b. Discussion of Comprehensive Planning Process.
3. Committee of the Whole
8. NEW BUSINESS - None
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRMAN - None
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10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Ms. Foster said she will be out of town starting July 15" and be back August 3`d
Also, she said the semester starts August 27`h and she will not be able to attend
the Zoning and Ordinance Committee Meetings.
Chairperson Keene said we do not have to make any decision tonight, because
we may have to do some switching again. The Committee has met as long as
she can remember at the same time, and she doesn't want to change the
meeting time.
Mr. Ruge said at the last meeting he questioned the validity of the word
"pervious." He looked it up in the dictionary and it says something like "allows
passage through."
Mr. Frederick questioned the work over at the used-car lot at the BP Amoco
property on Pennsylvania and Jolly and wondered if they had to pull a permit
and display it, because they certainly aren't displaying a permit.
Ms. Stachowiak said according to what she has been told, what they are doing is
they've brought in some equipment to clean up the property, clean up the
contamination.
Mr. Frederick said he was kind of surprised at that because what they are doing
looks exactly like the plan that they presented to us. They're cutting out the
pavement and backhoed down about 2 or 3 feet into the earth. They've been
going at it pretty heavy duty. I understood that there was an agreement with the
DEQ that they would not break the seal of pavement anywhere over that
property because the contamination crude has spread to the west and tot he
north and also to the south onto the public right of way on Jolly.
Mr. Smith asked about the project that's going on next to Lewton School on Mt.
Hope, the one where we have the problem with them taking down the trees. He
noticed the other day they were working on that property and wondered if it has
been given the go ahead and have they submitted a site plan?
Ms. Stachowiak said yes, it has not been given the go ahead but they can move
a little dirt, the issue is that they can't destroy any more trees right now.
Ms. Foster said I guess the issue of punishing them has still not been decided or
has it?
Ms. Stachowiak said probably not. There is nothing that says that you can't tear
down trees on your own property. There was a condition in the approval that
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they would have to return the lot to a wood lot condition, but there is nothing that
says that they had to keep those trees. Some of them were fairly diseased.
Ms. Foster said that we have to make sure that it is returned to a wooded lot.
Ms. Stachowiak said that's why the landscape plan has not gotten approved.
We've kept sending it back to them telling them it's deficient. What they are
proposing will not return the lot to a wooded lot condition, and that's why this is
taking so long to get a landscape plan approved.
Ms. Foster said on this one, I thought we sent them to the city arborist, if not the
city forester. She thought that was one of the conditions.
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS - None.
12. ADJOURNMENT was at 8:10 p.m.
Respe tfully submitted
ames A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
mn070301.wpd 65
Approved August 7,2001 with no corrections. Draft to Clerk July 25,2001
Approved August 7,2001
To Clerk August 23,2001
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7 p.m., City Council Chambers
Tenth Floor, Lansing City Hall
124 West Michigan Avenue
Tuesday, July 17, 2001
1. OPENING SESSION:
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Vice-Chairman Frederick.
A. Roll Call. Present: Frederick, Patrick, Ruge, Smith. Four members
present; two vacant seats.
B. Absences - Foster (previously excused) and Keene (Ms. Keene asked for
an excused absence. Motion made by Ruge, supported by Smith.
Approved).
C. Introductions. James A. Ruff, Planning Manager, introduced William
Rieske, Principal Planner, and Susan Stachowiak, Zoning Administrator.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA. Moved by Mr. Ruge, supported by Ms. Patrick.
Motion carried.
3. COMMUNICATIONS
a. Tri-county Regional Planning Commission
Mr. Rieske explained that the Tri-county Regional Planning Commission is
engaged in a major project called "Regional Growth, Choices for Our
Future." As part of this they will be conducting Town Hall Forums next
week. Mr. Rieske explained when and where the meetings will be held.
4. HEARINGS -
a. Act-18-01, Vacate Butler between Allegan and Ottawa
Bill Rieske presented the case. This is a request by the State of Michigan
Department of Management and Budget to vacate Butler Blvd. between
Allegan and Ottawa and to remove parking. They are planning to create a
pedestrian walkway and landscaping which will unify the new Hall of
Justice that is under construction with the Vietnam Memorial, on the other
side of Butler, and the State Capitol Building. Butler Street in the project
area is closed off right now due to construction, so we know the project
area and have felt some of the impact already. To the north, the land
uses are residences and offices. To the south is the Seven Block
Renaissance Area. To the east is current parking for State Offices and to
the west is the Hall of Justice under construction right now. The street is
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currently unzoned right-of-way. Surrounding the property on the north is
"DM-3" Multi-family Residential, "D-1" Professional Office and "C"
Residential. On the south side, the zoning is "D-1" Office, "A" Single
Family and "C" Two Family Residential. On the east side the zoning is
"DM-3" Multifamily Residential and to the west is "C" Two Family
Residential. The designation for this location in the River Island Area
Master Plan is for use as a government office, so this proposal is in
conformance in the Master Plan in that it connects the government
facilities. The applicant is present, Adrian Cazal, Department of
Management and Budget.
Mr. Ruge asked that the site plan be explained. He said it does not
connect with what he sees them building there. He said it looks like there
is a parking ramp along Martin Luther King Blvd.
Mr. Rieske said Mr. Cazel is planning a presentation of the site plan.
Mr. Frederick asked if there has been a study on traffic flow? It is real
crazy down there right now, it is real difficult to get around and he wonders
how this is going to affect traffic with the one way streets down there.
Mr. Rieske said referrals have been sent to the Traffic Engineer and have
not yet received a response. The referrals were requested of a number of
agencies in the hopes of a quick response, but a lot of them have not
responded as of yet. The responses are expected before the committee
meeting.
ADRIAN CAZAL, STATE OF MI, DEPARTMENT OF MANAGEMENT
AND BUDGET. He said they are applying to vacate Butler street for three
reasons. One is that it deals with safety. This goes along with their
proposal last year. What they would like to do is have the students and
employees only cross one street, that being Allegan Street.
Approximately 500,000 children a year with their chaperones come and
visit the State Capitol, and for safety reasons they would like to close
Butler Street, therefore allowing the one cross of Allegan Street. That
way, they can get from the Hall of Justice all the way to the State Capitol
on a single pathway that would adjoin the whole complex. There are also
approximately 900 State Employees, five days a week, which roughly
equals 234,000 State Employees a year. The new Hall of Justice will add
the employees to about 400 employees when that is complete, as well as
the increase of visitors. Again it is safety and only having to cross one
street. The second point of this is the greening of the area. They want to
continue to green their area and enhance the appearance to allow for
walking and leisure spaces, not only for employees but the
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neighborhoods. This new closing will give somewhat of a park feel to give
a gathering area for neighbors and visitors, as well as the employees. In
this area they will be hiring a professional gardener that will be doing the
landscaping so the landscaping and planting beds will not die off. They
are going to take a lot of time and consideration. They want to make sure
this is an appealing area. The State will be incorporating flowers and
trees to beautify the area. They also plan on partnering with the
neighborhoods as they have done in the past with the parking project
between Allegan and Kalamazoo. This closure will not only benefit the
state employees but also the residents of the neighborhoods. The
vacating of this area will also allow, in that complex, the Vietnam
Memorial. As sacred as that memorial is going to be, they want to allow a
place for solitude and reflectance. The third aspect of this is for the State
to be good neighbors, not only to the City of Lansing, but also to the
neighborhoods. About a year ago, they came to the Planning Board and
made promises about working with not only the city government but the
neighborhoods, and he thinks they have done a good job with
incorporating the neighborhoods input and working with them on the
current parking that was mentioned earlier between Kalamazoo and
Allegan. The State wants a consistent look for the entire complex and
mall and they will be looking for input from the neighborhood associations.
They want to continue to be the good neighbors that they promised they
would be last year and deal with an issue that they think that would help
beautify not only the complex as well as the neighborhood areas. They
are going out of their way to reach out to the neighborhoods to make sure
that they are happy. Just recently, they finished a project over at the
Women's Club (former YWCA Site). There were neighbors complaining
that the parking lot and surrounding area was not very appealing to the
eye, so they listened to their input, and have since finished re-landscaping
and putting up the safety fences they requested.
Mr. Ruge said he would like to start by saying that he had noticed the
Women's Club project and it is much more attractive than it was before. It
was really a step in the right direction. His other question was that he was
hoping that Mr. Cazel could explain the site plan for them. The site plan is
very small and it is hard to read what the buildings are.
Mr. Ruge said he is impressed with this. He is concerned that they will be
losing a lot of the parking that they have had in the past. The dirt lot
where the Hall of Justice is now, it looks like some of the parking that was
east of Butler will be used for green space which is great, but what are
you going to do with the cars?
Mr. Cazel said they have increased some of the parking with the
reconfiguration between Allegan and Kalamazoo. They have gained
some parking. Their main priority was the safety and environment. They
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have also moved a lot of the State vehicles out of that, meaning the ones
that are in State use for the departments. They did an inventory, which
showed roughly 10,700+ parking needs that they have on a daily basis.
What they will have when it is all done is roughly 11,000 parking spots.
They will have increased needs with the parking they are losing. They
partnered with the City of Lansing and a lot of their parking needs to
correlate with them gaining access on some of the parking over at the
church on MLK, as well as Lot 15 across from the Lugnut Field. Parking
is very sensitive and they made sure that no one would go without
parking.
Mr. Frederick commented that the construction that is going on right now
is quite extensive but at the intersection, Washtenaw and Walnut, there is
part of a parking lot that is being built and one of them looks like it is
finished. The construction guys have the entire access across Walnut
blocked off and you have to climb over fences to get across. Once you
come down from the Library and Historical Museum going east toward
downtown, you are trapped. On the way back, it is difficult to go across
the street and it gets a little bit hazardous there. If more accommodations
could be made for pedestrians throughout the area it would be
appreciated.
COUNCIL PRESIDENT LOU ADADO. Council Member Wood asked
that he make a comment regarding this matter. As some of you know,
Ms. Wood is a west side resident and she has been in contact with the
Genessee Neighborhood Association and she wanted him to relay the
message that the Neighborhood Association is in favor of the project. She
wanted him to relay that they found the State to be cooperative and alert
to their needs and they would endorse vacating Butler Street in order to
accommodate the needs that are being requested here tonight.
Seeing no one else wishing to comment further, Vice-Chairperson
Frederick declared the public hearing closed and referred it to the Urban
Development Committee to meet on July 24, 2001 at 4:00 p.m., 316 N.
Capitol Ave. in the Planning Department Conference Room.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (5 minutes each)
LOU ADADO, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF MICHIGAN LICENSED BEVERAGE
ASSOCIATION. Soon there will be a request from Vic Izzo to allow him to have
outdoor liquor service on Washington Avenue. He is already serving food out
there. He is a member of the MLBA. He has a good record with the Liquor
Control Commission, and as the Assistant Director of the Association he would
encourage the Planning Board to allow Mr. Izzo to do that. One thing that makes
Mr. Izzo unique compared to other licenses that have outdoor service is that he
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resides above the establishment, so he is there pretty much 7 days a week, 24
hours a day. Mr. Izzo runs a good operation and he would encourage the
Planning Board to allow the outdoor service permit. It is something that is not
uncommon throughout the state and as they get more and more into regulating
the indoor air quality, outdoor permits and outdoor facilities will be more
commonplace. He would encourage the Planning Board to approve the request.
Seeing no one wishing to comment further, Vice-Chairperson Frederick declared
the comments from the audience section closed.
6. RECESS (Urban Development Committee to meet for the purpose of taking Act-
14-01 off the Table and refer it to the Committee of the Whole.)
The Urban Development Committee convened at 7:32.
Mr. Smith, chair declared the Urban Development Committee in session. The
item they discussed was Act-14-01, Capitol Area United Way, 1300 Blk. W.
Washtenaw, Lots 34 and 35, Assessor's Plat #9, Easement for access and
parking.
Mr. Frederick moved, supported by Ms. Patrick to raise from the table Act-14-01,
Capitol Area United Way, 1300 Blk. W. Washtenaw, Lots 34 and 35, Assessor's
Plat#9, Easement for access and parking. Motion carried.
Mr. Ruge moved; Supported by Ms. Patrick to refer Act-14-01, Capitol Area
United Way, 1300 Blk. W. Washtenaw, Lots 34 and 35, Assessor's Plat #9,
Easement for access and parking to the Committee of the Whole for discussion
later in the meeting. Motion carried.
The Urban Development Committee Adjourned at 7:34 p.m.
Chairman Frederick declared the Planning Board meeting back in session.
7. BUSINESS
A. Minutes for Approval: July 3, 2001
Moved by Mr. Ruge, supported by Ms. Patrick. Motion carried, minutes
approved with corrections as follows:
Mr. Ruge has some concerns about the minutes. First, page 6. On the
bottom of the page where it says "motion by Mr. Ruge, supported by Ms.
Foster to table", there is no indication that we actually voted. The same
thing where it says "moved by Mr. Smith, seconded by Mr. Ruge to table."
Next, on page 7 under where it says "Planning Board Action on the
motion," it says "Mr. Smith made a motion, seconded by Mr. Frederick to
recommend approval of Act-15-01", but it does not mention anything
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about an easement or a license. The applicant applied for a vacation.
There needs to be mention somehow that what we were approving was
an easement or a license. Then, on page 11 under small letter "c," it
indicates that he is chairman of the COW and he believes that Mr.
Frederick is the Chairman. Then on page 13 the second full line from the
bottom in the middle of the line there is a word that he does not recognize.
Mr. Ruff said alignment?
B. Committee Reports
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee - Mr. Ruge, Chairman.
a. Z-10-01, 722 W. Saginaw St., "F" Commercial District to "C"
Residential District.
Mr. Ruge presented the report. The purpose for the
rezoning is to bring the existing duplex into compliance with
the Zoning Ordinance. The proposed rezoning is consistent
with the surrounding land uses and the Master Plan. No
additional impacts are anticipated on the environment or
vehicular or pedestrian traffic. The staff recommended
approval.
In Committee, it was moved, seconded and carried
unanimously 3-0 to approve.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Mr. Smith to approve Z-10-01, 722 W. Saginaw
St., "F" Commercial District to "C" Residential District.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye Smith . .Aye
Ruge. . . Ave Patrick. . . Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 4; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous; APPROVED.
b. NCU-9-01, 119 Elm Street, Class A Nonconforming Status
Mr. Ruge presented the report. The applicant requests
Class A Nonconforming Status to conduct substantial
rehabilitation of the residential structure in the "DM-4"
Residential District. The structure will be used for a single
family home. The property is nonconforming due to front
yard and side yard setbacks. The Zoning Code restricts
repairs/restoration of a Class "B" Nonconformity to 35% of
the fair market value of the structure. The ordinance
requires a minimum front yard setback of 20 feet. On this
property the front yard setback is approximately 17 feet.
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The ordinance requires a minimum side yard setback of
10% of the lot width. The lot width is 33 feet, therefore, the
minimum required side yard setback is 3.25 feet. The side
yard setback is 2.8 feet at its nearest point. The minimum
side yard setback for a garage is 3 feet and the existing
garage is located on the property line. The subject property
appears to be in compliance with the minimum two parking
spaces for a one-family dwelling unit. The valuation of the
structure is $52,200 according to the assessors office. A
nonconforming structure is limited 35% investment (in this
case it would be $18,270). The applicant intends to invest
$100,000 to rehabilitate this structure if the Class A
Nonconformity is approved. The ordinance sets forth the
criteria for evaluating the Class A Nonconforming Status
Proposal.
Elm Street is considered a local street. There are two
parking spaces accessed off of Elm Street with one driveway
on the west side of the building. Activities associated with
the single family structure will not generate any more smoke,
odor, air pollution, water pollution, vibration, glare or noise
than the level associated with the uses permitted by the right
in a "DM-4" Residential District. The parking requirements
appear to have been met. Staff recommends approval with
the following conditions:
a. The two spaces available on site must be confirmed
in writing, meeting the minimum number of parking
spaces required by Section 1286.01; and,
b. That the driveway be resurfaced.
In Committee, it was moved, seconded and carried
unanimously 3-0 to approve.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Ms. Patrick to approve NCU-9-01, 119 Elm
Street, Class A Nonconforming Status, with conditions as recommended by staff.
a. The two spaces available on site must be confirmed in writing, meeting
the minimum number of parking spaces required by Section 1286.01; and,
b. That the driveway be resurfaced.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Smith . .Ave
Ruge. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye Patrick. . . Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 4; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous; APPROVED.
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C. NCU-10-01, 814 E. Shiawassee, Class A Nonconforming
Status.
Mr. Ruge presented the case. The applicant requests Class
"A" Nonconforming Status. The property currently maintains
Class "B" nonconforming status due to setbacks and lot
coverage. The applicant proposes to convert the existing
two unit structure to a single family home. The amount of
repairs is restricted to $6,965, and the estimated cost of
repairs is $85,000. The applicant requires Class "A"
nonconforming status to spend the additional funds on the
structure. The structure was built in 1922 and is zoned "DM-
3" Residential. The applicant is in the process of purchasing
the adjacent property on the corner of Shiawassee and
Haag Ct. This purchase will increase the lot area to 4,495
sq. ft. The roof is to be replaced as well as the front porch.
There is no proposed expansion to the structure. The
current structure and pavement does not meet setback
regulations, or lot coverage regulations for the "DM-3"
Residential District. Section 1294.04(d) sets forth the criteria
for evaluating Class A proposals.
This is a residential property, therefore, access to a
residential street is permitted. Activities associated with the
structure and its rehabilitation will not cause pollution.
Parking requirements of two spaces can be met, though
ordinance requires that the parking drive be paved with
concrete or asphalt. The conversion of this unit to a single
family home would be an improvement. The staff
recommends approval.
In Committee, it was moved, seconded and carried
unanimously (3-0) to approve.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Mr. Smith to approve NCU-10-01, 814 E.
Shiawassee Street, Class A Nonconforming Status.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Smith . .Aye
Ruge. . . Ave Patrick. . . Aye
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 4; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous; APPROVED.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING July 17, 2001 Page 9
d. NCU-11-01, 317 Haag Court, Class A nonconforming status.
Presented by Mr. Ruge. The applicant is requesting Class A
nonconforming status for the property located at 317 Haag
Court, so that the existing 2 unit structure may be converted
to a single family home. The cost of repairs is limited to
$6,475, while the estimated cost of repairs is $75,000. A
Class A nonconformity status change is required to spend
the additional funds. The structure was built in 1912 and
zoned "DM-3" residential. In addition to the conversion from
2 to 1 units, the porch is being replaced and the structure is
being rehabilitated. The current structure does not meet
setback requirements for front and side yards, nor does it
meet lot coverage requirements for "DM-3" Residential.
This proposal meets the requirements as stated in Section
1294.04(d). Staff recommends approval.
In Committee, it was moved, seconded and carried
unanimously 3-0 to approve.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Ms. Patrick to approve NCU-11-01, 317 Haag
Court, Class A Nonconforming Status.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Smith . .Aye
Ruge. . . Ave Patrick. . . Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 4; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous; APPROVED.
e. NCU-13-01, 324 Haag Court, Class A Nonconforming
Status.
Mr. Ruge presented. The applicant requests a Class A
nonconforming status. The property is currently Class "B"
nonconformity due to setbacks and lot coverage in a "DM-3"
Residential District. The applicant wishes to spend $75,000
on the property where expenditure is currently restricted to
$5,950. A Class A nonconforming is needed to allow the
additional expenditure of funds on the property's
rehabilitation. The structure was built in 1885 and is zoned
"DM-3" Residential. There is no proposed expansion to the
current structure.
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This proposal meets the requirements as stated in Section
1294.04(d). Staff recommends approval.
In Committee, it was moved, seconded and carried
unanimously (3-0) to approve.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Mr. Smith to approve NCU-13-01, 324 Haag
Court, Class A Nonconforming Status.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye Smith . .Aye
Ruge. . . Aye Patrick. . . Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 4; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous; APPROVED.
f. PRD-1-01, Edgewood Villas
Presented by Mr. Ruge. There was a lot of dissatisfaction
with the original plan, particularly with parking lot dead ends,
landscaping and placement of the "tot-lot". The applicant
revised accordingly and everyone on the committee was
pleased with the extent and readiness of their response.
There will be 150 townhouse units at 7.89 units per acre.
The revised plan offers 357 parking spaces compared with
the original proposal of 302 spaces. A PRD is required
whenever more than one building is constructed on a parcel
over six acres in size. The applicant proposes to construct
150 townhouses on the 19.26 acre parcel. There will be a
total of 19 buildings containing 20 one-bedroom units, 90
two-bedroom units, and 40 three-bedroom units for a total of
150 dwelling units at a gross density of 8.4 units per acre.
Staff recommends approval of the Planned Residential
Development for the construction of the proposed
townhouse development as revised.
The applicant indicated that they would be trying to save as
many existing trees as possible.
In Committee, it was moved, seconded and carried
unanimously (3-0) to approve.
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PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Ms. Patrick to approve PRD-1-01, Edgewood
Villas, with conditions:
a. Consider a turnaround to Georgetown Blvd. to avoid a boulevard that
dead ends into this development.
b. Design sidewalks to continuously connect to buildings and to all open
space areas.
C. Provide additional landscape, screening and buffering to better screen
townhouses along the west and east property lines.
d. Provide for at least 200 shade trees outside of the wetland areas.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye Smith . .Ave
Ruge. . . Aye Patrick. . . Aye
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 4; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous; APPROVED.
g. Ordinance Amendments.
The ordinance amendments include expansion of the
required buffer area for display lots that involve new or used
cars, trailers, etc. It also amends the general landscape
screening and buffering ordinance as well as setting
minimum standards for landscaping with types, numbers
and sizes for shrubs and trees. This is a partial amendment
to the screening and buffering requirements.
In Committee, it was moved, seconded and carried
unanimously (3-0) to approve.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Mr. Smith to approve the Ordinance
amendments.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . ..... . . . . . . . Ave Smith . .Ave
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
Ruge. . . Aye Patrick. . . Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 4; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous; APPROVED.
The next Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting will be on
Wednesday August 15th, 2001 at 4 p.m., 316 N. Capitol Ave.
Conference Room.
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2. Urban Development Committee - Mr. Smith, Chairman.
Next meeting, Tuesday, July 24th, 2001, at 4 p.m.,
316 N. Capitol Avenue, Department Conference Room.
Ms. Patrick made a motion, seconded by Mr. Smith to dissolve to the Committee of the
Whole, carried; unanimous.
3a. Committee of the Whole, Mr. Smith, Chairman.
a. ACT-14-01, Capital Area United Way (CAUW), 1300 Blk. W.
Washtenaw, Lots 34 & 35 Assessor's Plat#9, Easement for
access and parking.
Mr. Rieske presented. The applicant requests continued
use of City property west of 1309 W. Washtenaw (a parking
lot). They propose to sell the building and would like to be
able to assign this property to the buyer of the building. The
city purchased lots 34 and 35 west of the CAUW so that
parking could be retained by the United Way building,
known as the Community Nursery. The property is zoned
"B" Residential, under which a nursery is permitted.
Ultimately, the nursery building is located in a park and thus
has pedestrian access, but it doesn't have parking or
automobile access, and that is the issue the applicants are
seeking to address. Some solutions that were considered
include a possible easement or license; however, both have
problems of their own that need to be addressed. The
problem with a license is that the applicant is desiring
something that runs with the land (continuous permission
with the land) for parking. A license does not provide that.
Therefore the applicant is looking for a permanent
easement, and that was outside the scope of the initial
study. The applicant is requesting that this move forward
from the Planning Board. Staff is recommending that the
Planning Board affirm the notion that the parking lot does
serve this community nursery and is specific to the property.
Moreover, staff suggests that the Parks Board take care of
the details of the method of conveyance.
General discussion ensued.
Mr. Frederick asked how this situation had come about to
begin with.
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Mr. Rieske referred the question to Tanya Moore from the
Parks and Rec. Dept.
Ms. Moore said in essence that there is no clear record of
how this came about.
There was some concern over the expedience of the
process, yet in the end, Mr. Ruff's concern that the Board's
opinion might unduly influence the Park's opinion caused the
committee to refer the matter to the UDC.
It was moved by Mr. Frederick, supported by Ms. Patrick to
refer Act-14-01 back to the Urban Development Committee.
Motion carried.
b. ACT-20-01, 1145 S. Washington Ave., Outdoor Seating in
Right-of-Way.
Presented by Mr. Rieske. The applicants request
authorization to use public right-of-way for customer seating
in front of 1145 S. Washington Ave. utilizing an 11.5 ft. by
20.5 ft. area. This area would be marked off in a semi-
permanent fashion, through the use of 36" posts and chains,
directly across from the entrance of the existing
establishment (restaurant/ pub) with a seven foot walkway
between the two. The sidewalk is 18.5 ft. in width. Due to
the nature of the request, an Act 285 Review is needed.
The applicants have already applied for and received a
permit from the Department of Public Service. They also
applied for a liquor license so that they may serve drinks in
this area as well. Approval of the latter, in particular, is
subject to approval of Act-20-01. The request is
straightforward and similar to past requests (800 blk. of E.
Michigan, Moriarty's as well as 600 blk. of E. Michigan, the
621 Club). In both of these previous cases, approval was
granted. Staff recommends approval.
Jim Ruff explained the Act 285 process which requires that
certain basic criteria be met.
Mr. Frederick indicated that there was at least one
fundamental difference between this case and those
previous ones. Most notably, in those earlier cases, one
entered and exited the sidewalk area from the establishment
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itself, whereas the 1145 S. Washington proposal has the
chained off area separate from the establishment entirely.
Mr. Ruff responded that, as far as zoning was involved, they
were not so concerned with the placement of the right-of-
way tables in relation to the building, provided the
establishment meets any and all Liquor Control
requirements.
Mr. Ruge indicated that the local establishment, Kelly's, has
a similar setup with tables away from the edifice itself, and
are likewise serving alcohol.
Ms. Patrick asked if there had been any response from the
neighborhood, to which Mr. Frederick replied in the
affirmative, saying that the Riverpoint Neighborhood was in
support of the proposal.
It was moved by Mr. Frederick, supported by Mr. Ruge to
approve Act-20-01, 1145 S. Washington, outdoor seating in
the right-of-way with the six conditions written in the staff
report. Motion carried.
There being no other items for consideration by the Committee of the Whole, Mr. Ruge
made a motion, seconded by Ms. Patrick, that the Committee do rise; carried;
unanimous.
3b. Committee of the Whole Report, Mr. Frederick, Chairman.
a. ACT-14-01, Capital Area United Way (CAUW), 1300 Blk. W.
Washtenaw, Lots 34 & 35 Assessor's Plat#9, Easement for
access and parking.
Referred to UDC unanimously.
b. ACT-20-01, 1145 S. Washington Ave., Outdoor Seating in
Right-of-Way.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
It was moved by Mr. Frederick, supported by Ms. Patrick to approve Act-20-01
concurring with the Committee of the Whole.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Smith . .Ave
Ruge. . . Aye Patrick. . . Ave
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On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 4; Nays: 0; carried, unanimous; ACT-20-01, 1145
S. Washington Ave., Outdoor Seating in Right-of-Way, with conditions: APPROVED
C. Report from Planning Manager
Bids were to be opened on Drake's demolition contract. Once a
contractor is chosen, a date will be affirmed for its removal. Also, the For
Sale sign at Bad Habits is new. This is in reference to abuse of banner
type signs that have been used in the past.
D. Pending Items: Future action required
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a. Z-1-98, 1223 N.Turner St.,"H" Light Industrial District to"G-1" Business District
(Tabled February 11, 1998)
b. Z-5-98,401-407 E. Grand River,"F"Commercial District to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled June 10, 1998)
C. Z-8-2000,3901 S. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.,"F"Commercial to"H"Light
Industrial District(Tabled June 14, 2000)
d. Z-15-2000, 301 W. Lenawee Street, Professional Office to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled January 17,2001)
e. NCU-2-2001, 1000 W.Jolly, Deja Vu, Expand Nonconforming Use (Tabled
May 9, 2001)
f. P-1-2001,Tentative Preliminary Plat,Wexford Woods(Tabled June 13, May 9,
2001)
2. Urban Development Committee
a. Act-9-2000, 201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj. Sign Over ROW (Tabled June 27,
2000)
b. Act-14-01, Capital Area united Way, 1300 Blk.W.Washtenaw, Lots 34&35
Assessor's Plat#9 (Tabled June 26,2001)
C. Discussion of Comprehensive Planning Process.
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planning Board
a. Act-12-01, 5550 S. Pennsylvania- Market Fire Station for Salem (tabled July 3,
2001)
b. Act-13-01,4801 S. Cedar Street,Acquire for Fire Station (tabled July 3,2001).
8. NEW BUSINESS - None
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON - None
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Mr. Smith reported that on the SW. corner of Viking and Dunlap when you are
driving east there's a hedge on private land as well as a city tree in the right-of-
way, both of which dangerously obstruct view in certain directions.
Ms. Patrick reminded everyone that she would not be present on the 241h of JUly
for the UDC meeting and requests a substitute.
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Mr. Ruge commented on the maintenance of the mall near L.C.C. He also
wondered about the necessity of sidewalks in front of homes.
Mr. Ruff indicated that there was no zoning or building code requiring a front
walk (from porch to curb).
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS
Mr. Frederick commented on the quality of the sign in front of the Lansing
Hospice on Stoneleigh. Apparently the construction sign had been turned into a
permanent sign.
Mr. Rieske asked if the chair had appointed a replacement or successor for the
UDC, to which Mr. Frederick replied in the negative. Mr. Frederick then asked
for a volunteer.
Mr. Rieske indicated that the next meeting should convene a half an hour earlier
(3:30 p.m.) to comply with the Transportation Engineer's schedule (in regards to
Act-8-01, vacation of Duvernay).
Mr. Frederick indicated that "they" could assume that the "three amigos" (Mr.
Smith, Mr. Ruge, and Mr. Frederick) would be present for the UDC meeting on
the 24`h of July, 2001 at 3:30 p.m.
12. ADJOURNMENT was at 9:15 p.m.
Respectf Ily sub fitted
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
=07172001
Correction was made on Page 16, paragraph 6.". . .property will fall through Draft to Clerk Auctsut 30,2001
then they are no where if we vote on the Approved September 5,2001
motion that is on the floor." To Clerk September 10,2001
Minutes approved w/corrections on September 5, 2001.
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7 p.m., City Council Chambers
Tenth Floor, Lansing City Hall
124 West Michigan Avenue
Tuesday, August 7, 2001
1. OPENING SESSION:
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Vice-Chairman Frederick.
A. Roll Call. Present: Frederick, Patrick, Ruge, Smith, Keene. Five
members present; two vacant seats.
B. Absences - Foster (previously excused)
C. Introductions. William Rieske, Principal Planner introduced Susan
Stachowiak, Zoning Administrator.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA.
It was moved by Mr. Frederick, supported by Mr. Ruge to approve the agenda as
printed. On a Voice Vote, motion carried unanimously (5-0).
3. COMMUNICATIONS
a. Memo regarding a special meeting for the Tri-County Regional Growth
Planning Commission featuring Dan Burden, President of Walkable
Communities, Inc.
b. Letter from the Old Everett Neighborhood Association, signed by Emly
Horne in response to the Planning Department Agency Referral Sheet, re:
Z-3-01 , a public hearing this evening.
C. Letters and Petition in opposition to Z-3-01 .
4. HEARINGS -
a. PRD-2-2001, "Crystal Woods", Planned Residential Development
Ms. Stachowiak presented the case.
This is a request for a planned residential development in the southwest
area of the city. The entire proposed development consists of 107 acres,
15.57 of which are in the city. The remaining 91+ acres are in Windsor
Township. There will be a total of 239 single family, detached site
condominium units, 41 of which will be in the city. Ms. Stachowiak drew
the Boards attention to the diagram in the packet that shows the general
layout of the entire development. She explained that this is a site
condominium project and there are no proposed changes to the zoning
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designation. There are still some issues that have not been resolved,
primarily regarding drainage and access. The applicant did supply some
recorded easements yesterday that we have been trying to get
straightened out with the Assessors Office and with the City Attorneys
office in regards to whether or not they have legal access to Old Farm
Lane Road, which is the road that stubs west of the subject property.
However, there are two properties in between and we want to make sure
that they have legal rights to these properties. The development is
designed like a subdivision plat although it is intended to be a site
condominium project. There are building lines shown within each of the
41 units and the proposed building setbacks, as shown on the plan, will
comply with all of our setback restrictions. The developers are proposing
a detention basin, and we are still waiting on comments from Public
Service with regard to those and any other utility issues. Also, there are
2.25 acres of open space areas proposed for the 15 acres that are in the
city and those will be under the control of the Condominium Association
which as established in the by-laws contained in the master deed. There
is no formal recommendation this evening but assuming we have these
issues resolved in time for the Zoning and Ordinance Committee Meeting
next week, we will be able to supply a recommendation.
Mr. Frederick asked if there have been any meetings with Windsor
Township. He also asked if the Township's zoning requirements will
conflict with the City's requirements.
Ms. Stachowiak said that the roadway will be 66 feet wide throughout the
entire development, which is consistent with our standard as well as the
township's standards for local roads. All units throughout the
development are proposed to be at least 6000 square feet, which
complies with our standard. The design appears to be common through
the township and the city part of the development. A copy of the plat was
sent to Windsor Township, the Eaton County Drain Commissioners office
as well as Eaton County School District since the area involved overlaps
a couple different, not only counties, but townships as well as school
districts. We are waiting on agency referrals to come back from most of
those agencies. Ms. Stachowiak met with the applicant about ten (10)
days ago and asked if they had formally submitted their request to
Windsor Township and their answer was that they had not, but it is the
cities understanding that several months ago, they had an informational
meeting with some residents in the area and it is her understanding that
there were some township officials at that meeting, so they are aware of
the development.
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Mr. Ruge questioned the 66 foot wide street? Ms. Stachawiak said the
right-of-way is 66 feet wide, however, the street itself would not be 66-feet
wide. Mr. Ruge asked if there will be sidewalks? Ms. Stachowiak said
that there will have to be because the developer intends for the streets to
be public streets.
Mr. Ruge asked why this is going to be a condo instead of a regular
subdivision. Ms. Stachowiak speculated that part of it was that they have
open space areas, and the condominium association is a good way of
handling their maintenance and ownership in the future. In addition,
through the condominium documents, they can place greater controls on
the development of the property, which they cannot necessarily do with a
plat. With a plat there can be deed restrictions, but they are difficult to
enforce. She has not specifically asked the applicant why they chose to
do a condominium development, but those, as well as other design
issues, are generally the reasons why developers do condominiums
rather than plats.
Mr. Ruge inquired about the Code Compliance comment that they have
had some enforcement problems with Brentwood Condos and asked what
this was all about. Ms. Stachowiak said it appears that there was a
problem with the common areas not being maintained and the
condominium association not being active in that area. Condo
associations do not have a right to dissolve such their association
because the master deed is a legal document that must be followed. In
this case, they have had problems with the common areas not being
maintained and they have had difficulty getting in touch with somebody
who is a member of the association. Mr. Ruge asked how we avoid this
problem with this condo association. Ms. Stachowiak said she would
need to talk to the code compliance office and see how they have dealt
with the Brentwood condo issues.
ABDUL MUHAMMAD, DETROIT) MICHIGAN, OWNER. He stated that
everything that has been said is pretty accurate. As far as why they are
going to do condos versus single family is exactly what Ms. Stachowiak
said in that they will have greater control over both the design and the
common areas. He also said that the PRD process is faster than the plat
process.
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b. Z-3-2001, 4720 S. Cedar St., "D-1" Professional Office to "F"
Commercial
Ms. Stachowiak presented the case. This is a request to rezone the east
183 feet of 4720 S. Cedar Street from "D-1" Professional Office to "F"
Commercial. The remainder of the 313 total length of the property would
remain "A" Residential. There is quite a lengthy rezoning history for this
property which is spelled out in the staff report. Since 1994, this is the
sixth rezoning request for this property. The first one was withdrawn
before council had a chance to take action on it. One of them was when
the east 183 feet of the property was officially rezoned from "A" to "D-1"
Professional Office. The most recent request was considered by the
Planning Board on January 12, 1999. At that time, the Board voted 6-1 to
recommend approval of the request to rezone this 183 feet from "D-1"
Professional Office to "E-2" Local Shopping District and the city council
denied the request.
Therefore, the property remains partially zoned "D-1" Professional Office
and partially zoned "A" Residential. The applicant would like to rezone
that "D-1" portion to "F" Commercial for an undetermined future
commercial use. There is a certificate of survey in the packet that shows
the property dimension, however, there is no site plan showing the
construction of a future building on this property. The packet of the
communications that was presented to the Board includes the agency
referral from the neighborhood association expressing opposition to the
request and one letter of support from Wolverine Development which
owns the McDonald's property that is directly north of this parcel. In
addition, there is a letter of opposition from Mr. Edward Benson which
was submitted to the City Council, the City Council President as well as
the Director of the Planning Department. There is also a petition from
residents within the general vicinity of the subject property opposing this
request. She mapped out each of the addresses on the petition because
when a petition is submitted in opposition to a rezoning, if the owners of
20% of the properties within a 100 foot radius of the property to be
rezoned have signed the petition it is considered a protest petition. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that what has been submitted is a valid protest petition.
What that means is that when it gets to the City Council, it requires a
super majority in order to approve the rezoning rather than a simple
majority.
One of the issues that she wanted to talk about this evening is contained
in the staff report on page 3, Comments from the City Attorney which were
received last week. He states that: "Notwithstanding the council
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committee's report to determine/consider this rezoning the Planning
Board must also make its initial determination of whether (1) the rezoning
was previously acted upon and (2) if so, has there been a significant
change in circumstances from prior requests that warrant a change in
zoning. If this threshold, change of circumstances is met then the
changes should be articulated." In other words, if the Planning Board
feels that they have already acted on this request, and nothing has
changed since its initial decision, then they need to report that back to
council. If it is felt that there has been a change in circumstances that
would warrant a second review, then it can proceed to consider the
rezoning.
This request was submitted several months ago and it has been in
Development and Planning Committee because they have been trying to
determine if they feel that circumstances have changed enough to warrant
another review of this proposal and based on the letter submitted by the
applicant, Chris Baryames, they felt that there had been enough changes
to reconsider the request. They listed four: 1) tearing down and
rebuilding of the McDonald's Property directly north, 2) the Richter's
Garden going out of business directly across the street, 3) after it was not
rezoned in 1998 the property still remains on the market for sale as "D-1"
Professional Office, they have not been able to make use of it as "D-1"
and, 4) the site has been vacant since 1999 after the abandoned house
on it was demolished. Based on those four circumstances the
Development and Planning Committee, with concurrence by City Council,
felt that the request could be reconsidered. However, the City Attorney is
saying that the Planning Board also needs to make that determination. It
is not a determination that the board needs to make tonight. It can be
something that is referred to the Zoning & Ordinance Committee at their
meeting next week.
Ms. Keene asked if it makes a difference if the Planning Board voted for
approval last time it was requested to be rezoned to "E-2" Local Shopping
District whereas now the request is for "F" Commercial. Ms. Stachowiak
said that is correct, but in the past, item #3 on page 2 under case history,
there was a 1996 request where the applicant was asking to rezone the
east 183 feet of the property from "A" Residential to "F" Commercial.
Mr. Frederick said that assuming that a decision is not made tonight
regarding the change in circumstances, would it be possible to have a
copy of the minutes from the meeting on January 12, 1999 meeting and
the Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting so we can review them.
Ms. Stachowiak said yes.
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JANICE SCOTT, 400 COX BLVD. The property she owns backs up to
the property in question. As previously mentioned, this is the sixth time
she has been here in opposition to this rezoning. They have not changed
their minds. Nothing has changed as far as Richter's going out of
business or the McDonald's remodeling. This does not change their
position to not have another commercial business in their backyards. She
suggested that the Board get in touch with Jim Ruff or Sandy Allen and
find out some of the problems that they have experienced on Cox Blvd.
with the rebuilding of the McDonalds. They have had nothing but
problems and they do not want another business in their backyards
causing the same problems, such as loud noises and traffic. The traffic at
that corner is terrible as it is, and to put another business on that corner
only two blocks from Jolly would make it worse. You cannot even turn
down that street or get out of that street between 4pm and 6pm. They do
not want another business in their back yards or in these peoples front
yards that are going to be facing this business. These kinds of business
do not have any respect for the neighbors. There is trash, people
climbing over the fence and a lack of privacy now with McDonalds. We
allowed them to rezone it to "D-1" Professional and they are not
advertising it as such. She said that she cannot believe the Planning
Board is even allowing this. She also said that there is probably not
anybody in this room that would want something like this in their back
yards.
HARRY HILL, 328 SYRINGA. Mr. Hill expressed his concerns with
regard to this request: 1) safety and 2) impact on the residential area.
The volume of traffic on South Cedar near Syringa is very, very high. A
couple years ago, when this was up for rezoning, he did a little survey to
determine the traffic volume and because of the short notice, he did not
have time to resurvey the traffic pattern. On Cedar, between Cavanaugh
and Jolly, there is a high accident rate because of the traffic. It is a
problem and a danger. During the rush hours, you cannot get on Cedar
from Syringa unless you are turning right and someone stops and lets you
out. Near the Cedar/Syringa intersection, there are two extremely high
volume businesses: Auto Zone and McDonalds. Sometime you ought to
stop by those lots and watch the cars going in and out, particularly during
the business hours. Again it is very dangerous. Some people use
Syringa as a by-pass to get from Cedar during the rush hours around to
Jolly so they can circumvent the Jolly/Cedar intersection and they go
through our neighborhood. A high volume commercial business would
alter the integrity and character of the neighborhood. This is a stable
neighborhood. It has a low crime rate and is enjoyable to live there, but if
there was another business that was zoned other than Professional
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Office, say commercial, this would add additional traffic and create some
of the other problems associated with a commercial business. They get a
lot of wind blow wrappers, noise, odors and traffic congestion from the
businesses. He would like the Planning Board to support maintaining the
integrity and character of the Syringa Drive Area.
CHRIS BARYAMES, SR., 1731 NOTTINGHAM RD. Mr. Baryames
stated that he is here tonight to talk with the Planning Board about the
property at 4720 S. Cedar Street in Lansing. On May 1, 1997, the
Community Planning Service approved the zoning classification to
become "F" Commercial. In keeping with this approval, there needs to be
approval from the Planning Board and this is why he is here. The entire
property was reclassified "F" Commercial by the Committee and he just
wants the front 113 feet to be rezoned that way. The back 113 feet where
the people are living to remain Residential. This would have the property
blend with the businesses that are already there, such as the recently
remodeled McDonalds and the other commercial properties that extend
along Cedar Street from Willoughby Rd. to almost Michigan Avenue. It is
not reasonable that all of these properties have the "F" Commercial
classification and this property does not. He asks that the Planning Board
follow the lead of the Community Planning Services Committee and
approve the "F" Commercial classification tonight, if possible, so that this
property can be developed in a way that would blend with the other
commercial businesses all the way up and down S. Cedar Street. As a
life long resident of Lansing, his heart is in keeping Lansing a viable city.
EMLY HORNE, PRESIDENT OF OLD EVERETT NEIGHBORHOOD
ASSOCIATION. At their meeting on July 26, the Old Everett
Neighborhood Association voted to oppose the rezoning of 4720 S. Cedar
Street from "D-1" Professional Office to "F" Commercial. Some of their
concerns have been stated by previous speakers but she will repeat them
quickly. They include: 1) safety and traffic problems. Residents are not
able to ingress and egress their subdivision due to traffic backups that
sometimes extend to Potter Street; 2) the changing of this neighborhood if
this is rezoned. There is a doctor's office and an insurance building
between Cloverland and Syringa, and these buildings are of the same
style and are one story high. They want to maintain this type of style and
character for this area because this is one of our newest subdivisions in
the Old Everett Neighborhood area. The South Side Summit report
discussion from the Physical Development Committee states that the
citizens of the south side do not want vacant property to be rezoned to a
higher usage unless a marketing study has been done or an economic
study, especially if it is near or adjacent to residential properties. The
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sign that has been on the property just states that it is for sale, and does
not state that it is zoned for "D-1" Professional Office, so people who are
going by this area on Cedar Street do not know what this is zoned for.
Since they have Professional Office between Cloverland and Syringa, it
would be nice to retain this character and have property remain "D-1".
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (5 minutes each) - None
6. RECESS (Zoning and Ordinance Committee to meet regarding NCU-14-01 and
NCU-15-01))
Mr. Ruge suggested that it may be more expedient if they handled these matters
in the Committee of the Whole, particularly since there are only two members of
the Zoning & Ordinance Committee present. He asked that they be referred to
the Committee of the Whole.
Mr. Ruge moved; supported by Mr. Frederick to consider NCU-14-01 and NCU-
15-01 in the Committee of the Whole.
On a Voice Vote, motion carried (5-0).
7. BUSINESS
A. Minutes for Approval: July 17, 2001
Moved by Mr. Frederick, supported by Ms. Patrick, to approve the minutes
of July 17, 2001.
On a Voice Vote, motion carried, the Minutes of July 17, 2001 were
APPROVED
B. Committee Reports
1 . Zoning and Ordinance Committee - Mr. Ruge, Chairman.
The next Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting will be on
Wednesday August 15th, 2001 at 4 p.m., 316 N. Capitol Ave.
Conference Room.
2. Urban Development Committee - Mr. Smith, Chairman.
a. Act-8-01, Duvernay Dr., Dovers Crossing, Vacate ROW
Mr. Smith presented this case.
DTN Management requests that the City of Lansing vacate
the Duvernay Street ROW in Dover's Crossing to alleviate a
shortage of tenant and visitor's parking in the immediate
area.
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Duvernay is a platted north/south street which runs up the
middle of the Dover's Crossing complex. The roadway is
615 foot in length, 36 feet in width from curb to curb with a
66 foot ROW with no city street trees. An additional 80 feet
ROW exists on the north end of Duvernay Drive making the
overall size 615 feet and 66 feet wide. Cars parallel park
along both sides of the street, parallel spaces are required
to be at least 20' by 8', which in this case would leave 20
feet of width for traffic with parking on both sides of the
street. Cars can legally park along the street by day but are
ticketed for over night parking.
The required number of spaces based on a mix of Dover's
Crossings 528 dwelling units is 1,007. Based on a review of
aerial photos, 125 parking spaces in excess of code
requirements. Excess parking exists near the corner of Bell
Chase and Jolly while deficiencies exist in centrally located
parking. The proposed vacation will provide approximately
35-37 parallel parking spaces. The same area, if
redeveloped for 90 degree parking which would result in
approximately 74 parking spaces, albeit at significant cost.
The Fire Marshall has determined that either configuration
will allow access for fire trucks and other emergency
vehicles. Easements are needed for any utilities that exist.
The Committee found based on its review of the location,
character and extent of Act-8-01 in accordance with its Act
285 review procedures, that:
1 . Duvernay Drive is in the interior of the Dover's
Crossing development, and is not necessary to be
retained as street.
2. The vacation of Duvernay Drive will provide
additional centrally located parking to the Dover's
Crossing Development.
3. Either parking configuration (parallel as proposed or
90 degree as recommended by staff), will result in
sufficient aisle space of emergency vehicles.
4. Site Plan Review will be required due to the creation
of the parking lot.
5. The extension of Duvernay Drive into the Trappers
Cove Development will not be necessary.
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In Committee, it was moved, seconded and carried
unanimously to recommend approval of Act-8-01, the
Vacation of Duvernay Drive in its current condition, retaining
all applicable utilities easements, and provided that a site
plan be submitted through the site plan review process
including review and approval by the Fire Marshall.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION was as follows:
Mr. Smith made a motion, seconded by Ms. Patrick to approve Act-8-01, Duvernay Dr.,
Dover's Crossing, Repave then Vacate ROW with the conditions outlined in Mr. Smiths
report.
Frederick . Ave Smith .Ave
Ruge . Ave Patrick . Ave
Keene . Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 5; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous;
APPROVED w/ CONDITIONS
b. Act-18-01, Butler St., Allegan to Ottawa, Vacate ROW
Mr. Smith presented the case.
The State of Michigan Department of Management and
Budget requests that the city vacate Butler Blvd. including
utility easements between Allegan and Ottawa Streets. The
State proposes to create a landscaped pedestrian walkway
which will unify the new Hall of Justice, which is currently
under construction, west of Butler, with the proposed
Vietnam Veterans' Memorial on the east side of Butler, and
the State Capitol to the east. The State will discuss the
design with the surrounding neighborhoods. One
neighborhood organization, Genessee Neighborhood
Association, has spoken in favor of the proposal.
Land uses to the north are residences and offices, while to
the south is the old Seven Block Renaissance Area. To the
east is current parking for State Offices and to the west is
the Hall of Justice. This proposal is in conformance with the
River Island Area Comprehensive Plan in that it connects
the government facilities. The project is also in
conformance with the Capitol Loop Plan, a design concept
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prepared for the State of Michigan and the City of Lansing
regarding the State complex and its approaches. Butler
Blvd. between Allegan and Ottawa is eliminated in this
concept.
Butler Street is currently closed off in the project area due to
the construction of the Hall of Justice, so some of the
circulation impacts of the project are already being felt.
According to the Transportation Engineer, reasonable
circulation is feasible under one way street patterns on
Allegan and Ottawa Streets, or in the event that the two
streets are converted to two way. The city has a large
sewer pipe recently relocated into the Butler Street ROW
from the Hall of Justice Property. AT&T has broadband
equipment in the ROW, the removal of which would affect
608 homes. The Board of Water and Light also has a water
main and street lighting in the subject area. These utilities
will need to either be retained in the existing easements or
relocated into new easements. Easements will not be a
problem, according to Mr. Mosher from the Michigan
Department of Management and Budget, provided that any
unnecessary easement are eliminated.
The Committee found, based on its review of location,
character and extent of Act-18-01 in accordance with Act
285 Review procedures, that:
1. The proposed project is in conformance with the
River Island Comprehensive Plan and the Capitol
Loop Plan from 1990.
2. The proposal will permanently remove N-S vehicular
traffic on Butler, but the Transportation Engineer has
determined that the traffic pattern is workable. This is
confirmed by the experience of Butler's temporary
closure during the construction of the Hall of Justice.
The Committee voted unanimously to recommend approval
of Act-18-01, Butler Street, Allegan to Ottawa, Vacate ROW,
with conditions:
a. The existing fire hydrant be retained.
b. All utility wires be installed underground.
C. The City, as part of MDOT's "Capital Loop Project",
may construct a sanitary sewer, approximately 25 feet
deep, in the Butler's Street ROW, between Ottawa
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Street and Allegan Street targeted for construction in
2004 and 2005.
d. Butler Street shall not be vacated until appropriate
easements, acceptable to the City Engineer, are
granted by the State for the relocated City owned
sanitary and storm sewers along the westerly (M.L.
King Blvd.) and northerly (Ottawa St.) proportions of
the "Hall of Justice" property.
e. The State work with the surrounding neighborhoods
on design issues.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION was as follows:
Mr. Smith made a motion, seconded by Mr. Ruge to approve Act-18-01 , to recommend
approval of Act-18-01 , Butler Street, Allegan to Ottawa, Vacate ROW with the
conditions noted above.
Ms. Keene said the motion is amended.
Frederick . Ave Smith .Ave
Ruge . Ave Patrick . Ave
Keene . Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 5; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous;
APPROVED w/the following CONDITIONS.
a. The existing fire hydrant be retained.
b. All utility wires be installed underground.
C. The City, as part of MDOT's "Capital Loop Project", may
construct a sanitary sewer, approximately 25 feet deep, in
the Butler's Street ROW, between Ottawa Street and
Allegan Street targeted for construction in 2004 and 2005.
d. Butler Street shall not be vacated until appropriate
easements, acceptable to the City Engineer, are granted by
the State for the relocated City owned sanitary and storm
sewers along the westerly (M.L. King Blvd.) and northerly
(Ottawa St.) proportions of the "Hall of Justice" property.
e. The State work with the surrounding neighborhoods on
design issues.
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C. Act-14-01, Capitol Area United Way, 1300 Blk. W.
Washtenaw, Lots 34 & 35, Assessors Plat #9, Easement
for access and parking.
Mr. Smith presented the case.
The Urban Development Committee met on June 26, 2001
and again on July 24, 2001 to discuss this case. Mr. John
Fifarek and Robert Burnig were present on behalf of the
request. Tanya Moore was present on behalf of the Parks
and Recreation Department.
Mr. Fifarek, on behalf of the Capital Area United Way,
requests an easement for access and parking for the CAUW
building in Kingsley Park in the 1300 Block of W.
Washtenaw. CAUW owns the property at 1309 W.
Washtenaw, which is lots 32 and 33, Assessors Plat No. 9,
which has been known for years as the Community Nursery
with frontage, ingress, egress and parking were off of
Washtenaw Street.
The CAUW property originally fronted on Washtenaw,
having its parking ingress and egress on Washtenaw Street.
Around 1977, the 1300 block of West Washtenaw for
purposes of the Kingsley Park project, including Riddle
School, and vacated in 1981. In 1976, the City had
purchased lots 34 and 35 of Assessor's Plat No. 9 (the
subject property), being the two lots immediately to the west
of the CAUW properties so that parking ingress and egress
remained for the CAUW property. This parking has been
predominately used by the Community Nursery, however the
title to the subject property has remained with the City of
Lansing.
The subject property, and the property at 1309 W.
Washtenaw, are zoned "B" Residential District and
regulated by Section 1248 of the Zoning Ordinance. They
are surrounded by residentially zoned properties. The
Parks Board met on July 18, 2001 , and recommended that
"the parcel of property (the subject property) be submitted
for approval for an easement within the current zoning of "B"
Residential to meet the intended use as a day care center
and would be subject to change if the zoning intended use
of this parcel is changed."
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The Committee found, based on its review of location,
character and extent of Act-14-01 in accordance with the Act
285 Review procedures, that:
1. The subject site is now designated park land.
2. The subject property was acquired and developed to
provide parking for the Community Nursery building
and other park users.
3. The development and use of the subject property as
parking preceded the designation of the subject
property as "Parks and Open Space" in the River
Island Area Comprehensive Plan (adopted in
October, 1978) and as a designated park in City
Council's Designation of Parkland resolution adopted
on June 22, 1981.
4. The property is zoned "B" Residential District and
regulated by Section 1248 of the Zoning Ordinance.
5. An easement or license for access and parking
should not have any adverse impact o the residential
character of the area.
The Committee voted unanimously to recommend that the
Planning Board concur with the Parks Board's July 18, 2001
action, and recommend approval of Act-14-01, 1300 Blk. W.
Washtenaw, with modification, for the conveyance by
license or easement, or other appropriate conveyance as
deemed appropriate by the City Attorney, over Lots 34 & 35
Assessor's Plat #9, retaining all necessary utility easements,
with the following conditions:
• the subject site remains designated park land;
• the current zoning designation ("B" Residential) of the
building at 1309 W. Washtenaw (east of and adjacent
to the subject property), and its use as a day care
facility be retained;
• the pavement for the existing driveway, which
extends beyond the south property line may be
retained for the duration of its useful life, at which
time the encroachment shall be removed;
• the two sheds which encroach approximately five (5)
feet onto City property (Lot 34) may be retained for
the duration of their useful lives, at which time they
shall be removed at the applicant's sole expense;
• no further structural development be permitted on the
subject property;
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• new and subsequent owners of 1309 W. Washtenaw
shall be responsible for the continued maintenance of
the subject area; and
• the applicant may, at its expense, install utilities, such
as lighting and phone, on or above the subject
property, subject to administrative site plan review.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION was as follows:
Mr. Smith made a motion, seconded by Ms. Frederick to approve Act-14-01, Capitol
Area United Way, 1300 Blk. W. Washtenaw, Lots 34 & 35, Assessor's Plat #9,
Easement for access and parking with the conditions outlined in Mr. Smiths report.
Mr. Ruge said it appears that the City made an agreement with the applicant at the time
that Washtenaw was vacated that they could have access to a city street over city
property. This is really just following through on that agreement.
JOHN FIFAREK, REPRESENTATIVE FOR CAPITAL AREA UNITED WAY. When
looking at the recommendation there are a couple of things that he wishes that he
would.consider. There is the language in there, "easement, license or other
appropriate conveyance", he thinks what was attempted to do at that point in time and
that the general discussion was that an easement would be the most appropriate
between the easement and the license but not to disregard the possibility if it was o.k.
with the City Attorney and City Council to give them the deed to that property. So if
there can be some reliance to that as well. The second bullet point that has the
condition that it be used as a day care facility. They would request that it be removed
from the Planning Boards decision. As mentioned before, there is a buyer for the
property. Like any buyer they want to make sure that they have ingress and egress as
the future may come about. They have been told with that restriction they will not go
forward with the sale as presently contemplated. What would be acceptable that it be
consistent with the requirements of the applicable Zoning Ordinance. He thinks that is
only fair and it be treated just like any other party or property owner in the community.
The other point is on the fifth bullet point where it says "no further structural
development be permitted on the property". Again, he requests that it not be included
but rather any development or improvements with the property would have to comply
with the Zoning Ordinance Codes. He does not think this should be restricted or the
new purchaser be restricted from making any improvements to that parcel. The long
and short of it is, we as the United Way think they have a deal that is beneficial to the
United Way but also to the community and that this building will be used. The
purchaser has indicated that it will be used as a day care but we prefer that it not be
restricted as this and leaving us all open for reconsideration some time in the future.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES August 7, 2001 Page 16
Ms. Keene said this will need to be referred back to the Committee for its input at this
point in terms of whether we want to go forward tonight or take some time to consider
these comments by the applicant.
Mr. Ruge said it is his memory that on a couple of these things that the use be
restricted to a day care facility. He believes that this is what the Park's Board
recommended and that is why the language was put in there. He feels that we should
follow the Park's Board recommendation and that if they want to go back to the Park's
Board and get a clarification he would be willing to hold this and reconsider it, but he
does not think he would be willing to pass something that was different from the Park's
Board recommendation.
General discussion ensued regarding whether to table this and take it back to the
Committee or move on this tonight. Also discussion ensued on the issue of amending
the conditions regarding the day care center and the restrictions on the building.
Ms. Keene said she would like to have a motion to table or vote this up or down. Is
there a motion to table until there is further clarification from the Parks Board.
Mr. Ruge said it is his understanding that the applicant would like this acted upon this
evening and not tabled. That would be his feeling.
Mr. Frederick said he heard the applicant say that if this is moved on with the
conditions as outlined in the report that the sale of this property will fall through then
they are no where if we There as not way to vote on the motion that is on the floor. If
this is tabled the result is the same.
Mr. Ruge said he agrees with him, but he can ask the applicant and he said he did not
want this tabled.
Ms. Keene asked the applicant if this is what he wants. Mr. Fifarek said he was told to
get a decision one way or another and he may be able to convince Council to amend
the recommendation because the school if this goes forward needs to open up in the
month of September and there has been some discussion of a short term lease so they
can start doing things before hand but when the purchaser heard of these restrictions,
they said they are not going to spend any money or do anything of that nature. All he is
doing is begging the Board to understand what those concerns are, if he can't convince
the Board otherwise, maybe the next body he can. If this is not closed this month they
are right are they were a year ago with a vacant property and no use for it.
Mr. Ruge said on the applicant's other concerns, the Committee discussed the license,
easement and other conveyance and personally he would be uncomfortable directing
the City Attorney what way to allow them to use the parking lot. He thinks that should
be left up to the discression of the City Attorney.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES August 7, 2001 Page 17
Mr. Rieske said the Park's Board meets again this month, assuming that they meet at
their regular meeting time. If this was compatible with the motion, say the current
zoning designation will remain with the building and its use as a day care center or
other uses in conformance with the Zoning Ordinance and approved by the Parks
Board. . . If that was added it would give the Parks Board some leeway as to the use of
the property and may accommodate some of the applicants concern and still move this
forward without messing this up entirely.
Mr. Smith said he would find that a good compromise. Mr. Frederick agreed to that
amendment as well.
Mr. Ruge said he would like to address the applicants third point also. The condition
that no further structural development be permitted. Unfortunately he does not
remember the discussion on that and he does not remember where that came from and
he is hoping someone is able to fill him in on that point.
Mr. Rieske said he knows that the provision is in there because the city owns the
property and it is for the city to determine what changes go on there not to permit the
applicant to go and just construct some building there.
Mr. Ruge asked if this was the applicant's property or the parking lot. Mr. Rieske said
the subject property is the parking lot. Mr. Ruge said this is not saying that can't put a
shed on their own property.
Mr. Rieske said we can put in parentheses the lots 34 and 35 and just so that becomes
crystal clear.
Mr. Ruge said Lot 32 and 33 are the ones owned by the applicant.
Mr. Frederick said that he would accept that amendment. Mr. Smith concurred.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye Smith . .Aye
Ruge. . . Ave Patrick. . . Ave
Keene. . . Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 5; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous;
APPROVED w/the AMENDED CONDITIONS.
• the subject site remains designated park land;
• the current zoning designation ("B" Residential) of the
building at 1309 W. Washtenaw (east of and adjacent
to the subject property), and its use as a day care
facility be retained (amendment: the current zoning
designation will remain with the building and its
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES August 7, 2001 Page 18
use as a day care center or other uses in
conformance with the Zoning Ordinance and
approved by the Parks Board);
• the pavement for the existing driveway, which
extends beyond the south property line may be
retained for the duration of its useful life, at which
time the encroachment shall be removed;
• the two sheds which encroach approximately five (5)
feet onto City property (Lot 34) may be retained for
the duration of their useful lives, at which time they
shall be removed at the applicant's sole expense;
• no further structural development be permitted on the
subject property (amendment: Lots 34 & 35);
• new and subsequent owners of 1309 W. Washtenaw
shall be responsible for the continued maintenance of
the subject area; and
• the applicant may, at its expense, install utilities, such
as lighting and phone, on or above the subject
property, subject to administrative site plan review.
Ms. Keene said she needs to leave at this time, and requested an excused absence for
the remainder of the meeting.
Mr. Ruge moved; supported by Mr. Smith to grant Ms. Keene's request. On a Voice
Vote, the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Frederick took over as chair for the remainder of the Planning Board Meeting.
d. Act-17-01, South Sheridan Rd. at Turner Street,
Easement for sidewalk.
Mr. Smith presented the case.
This was taken up at the Urban Development Committee
prior to the Planning Board meeting this evening.
The City of Lansing Public Service Department requests
easement to maintain the existing sidewalk at the southwest
(321 W. Sheridan Road) and southeast (3520 N. Turner
Street) corners of Sheridan Road and Turner Street.
The City of Lansing Public Service Department is proposing
to widen the turn radius at the southwest and southeast
corners of Sheridan Road and Turner Street. Widening the
turn radius will encroach into the existing sidewalk area.
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Therefore, easements onto private property are necessary
to maintain the sidewalk network at this intersection.
Currently the south side of Sheridan has curb, gutter and
sidewalk. The corners have a short radius, which requires
vehicles to make tighter turns. Road improvements to
Sheridan Road are underway between Turner Street and
East Street. Future road improvements along Sheridan
Road toward Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd. are scheduled for
Spring 2002. Staff recommended of Act-17-01, South Side
Sheridan Road at Turner Street, Easement for sidewalk.
In Committee it was found, based on its review of the
location, character and extent of Act-17-01 in accordance
with Act 285 Review procedures, that:
1. The proposed easements are located on the southern
corners at the intersection of Turner Street and
Sheridan Road.
2. The corners at Sheridan Road and Turner Street only
allow for short turning radii.
3. Easements are necessary to relocate the sidewalk
network onto private property to allow the widening of
Sheridan Road and Turner Street, which would
improve the turning radius for trucks.
4. Letters have been sent to property owners.
Authorization through an easement agreement
between the property owners and the City will be
required to establish the proposed easements.
5. An easement or purchase of the property will be
required to use the property for a public purpose.
Public Service would prefer an easement agreement
to purchasing the property.
The Committee voted unanimously to recommend that the
Planning Board approve Act-17-01 , South Sheridan Road at
Turner Street, Easement for Sidewalk.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION was as follows:
Mr. Smith moved, seconded by Ms. Patrick to recommend approval of Act-17-01, South
Side Sheridan Rd. at Turner St., Easement for sidewalk.
Mr. Ruge said the Assessors Office suggested that the City purchase this property.
General discussion ensued whether to acquire easements, or the outright purchasing
of property.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES August 7, 2001 Page 20
Mr. Ruge suggested that the Board recommend both alternatives, easement or
purchase, for flexibility.
Mr. Smith said that is fine. Ms. Patrick concurred.
Mr. Frederick said the motion to approve is amended.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Smith . . .Ave
Ruge . Ave Patrick. . . Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 4; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous;
APPROVED AS AMENDED.
e. Act-19-01, S. Cedar at Just-A-Mere, Vacate, Realign
Just-A-Mere Drain
Mr. Smith presented the case.
The applicant, Gordon Long, is requesting a vacation of part
of the Just-A-Mere drain from Georgia Street to a point
south of S. Cedar ROW. Vacating this portion of the drain
should not affect is compatibility with the surrounding land
uses. Any resulting drainage lines would not be visible from
surrounding land uses and be incidental to the principle land
uses on the applicant's site.
The existing segment to be vacated is an 8 inch field tile.
The exact age, location, and condition is unknown. The line
is considered to be inadequate to meet the needs of the
applicant's development. An alternate would be
appropriately sized to meet the needs of surrounding land
uses and the proposed development of the site. The design
of the alternate segment would be required to meet the
current municipal and County Drain Commissioner
standards. Vacating of this segment of the Just-A-Mere
drain should, therefore, have a positive impact on existing
and future development by upgrading a substandard
segment of the system, resulting in enhanced capacity and
reliability. There will be no appreciable change in the
impacts on the environment associated with vacating this
segment of the drain. All storm water in the vicinity will
continue to be discharged into the existing drainage system
and received by the same county drain, irrespective of the
drainage route employed at the applicant's site.
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In Committee it was found based on its review of the
location, character and extent of Act-19-01 in accordance
with its Act 285 Review procedures, that:
1. The overall impact of vacating the Just-A-Mere drain
segment should be positive, resulting in the
upgrading of a substandard segment of the system by
improving flow and reliability.
2. The proper location of the alternate drain would be
subject to local standards and the City Engineer's
approval.
3. No negative impacts on the existing or future
character of the area could be discerned.
4. The proposal is consistent with the Southeast Area
Comprehensive Plan.
The Committee voted unanimously to recommend that the
Planning Board approve Act-19-01 , S. Cedar at Just-A-
Mere, Vacate and Realign Just-A-Mere Drain with the
conditions that were outlined in the staff recommendations:
1 . The applicant provide Title Commitment and obtain
releases from all other entities having a legal interest
in the easement area to be vacated, prior to vacating
the drain.
2. The vacation of the Just-A-Mere drain shall not be
executed until such time that the portion of the drain
not abandoned is redirected to a new public storm
sewer system in Georgia Street.
3. The physical piping and appurtenances shall be
abandoned by the applicant at his expense. This
shall be witnessed by the Public Service Department.
4. The applicant shall construct a manhole on the Just-
A-Mere drain near the east property line at a site
approved by the City Engineer.
5. The applicant will be responsible for placing a
bulkhead for the drain at the west property line.
6. The applicant shall protect the Just-A-Mere drain
during construction until the drain has been officially
abandoned.
7. All work associated with the Just-A-Mere drain shall
be permitted and inspected by the Public Service
Department.
8. The applicant construct a 24 inch storm sewer to
outlet to the Pawlowski Creek detention area, in
accordance with Ingham County Drain Commission
requirements.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES August 7, 2001 Page 22
PLANNING BOARD ACTION was as follows:
Mr. Smith made a motion; seconded by Ms. Patrick, to recommend approval of Act-19-
01 , S. Cedar at Just-A-Mere, Vacate, Realign Just-A-Mere Drain with conditions.
Frederick . . Ave Smith . .Ave
Ruge. . . Aye Patrick. . . Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 4; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous;
APPROVED w/ CONDITIONS.
Mr. Frederick appointed Mr. Ruge as chair for the Committee of the Whole.
Ms. Patrick made a motion, seconded by Mr. Smith to dissolve to the Committee of the
Whole. The motion carried unanimous (4-0).
3a. Committee of the Whole, Mr. Ruge, Chairman.
a. NCU-14-017 516 W. Saginaw, Class A Nonconforming
Ms. Stachowiak presented the case. This is a request by
Ferris Development for a Class A Nonconforming Status for
the property at 516 W. Saginaw Street. There is a drawing
in the packet attached to the staff report that depicts the
layout of the lot. The portion from the north line of the
building going over to N. Pine Street is zoned "J" Parking
and the remainder of the property is zoned "F" Commercial.
There are four nonconformities with regard to this property.
One of these is the use. The building is completely
residential and in the "F" Commercial District, residential is
only permitted as a secondary use to Commercial and there
are no commercial uses on this property. Lot area is
another nonconformity. Residential uses in the "F"
Commercial district have to meet the lot area requirements
of the "DM-3" District, which would be 29,900 sq. ft. and this
lot is deficient 13,478.12 ft. from that requirement. The
other nonconformity is the front yard setback. A 20 foot
front yard setback is required and this building has a 19.2
setback. The final nonconformity is parking. The Zoning
Code requires a total of 35 parking spaces for this property
and the applicant can provide 23 parking spaces. To rectify
this problem, what the applicant is going to do, and we have
made this a condition of the recommendation to approve, is
to have a lease agreement to limit one parking space per
unit. She understands they will all be one bedroom units.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES August 7, 2001 Page 23
The applicant is requesting the Class A for the purpose of
repairing/rehabilitating the building in excess of 35% of its
value.
Staff is recommending approval with Five Conditions, which
are:
• The Class "A" meets all conditions required by
agencies referred;
• The applicant implements a lease agreement limiting
the parking to one space per unit;
• Compliance with the minimum dimensional
requirements for the layout of the parking area
contained in Chapter 1284;
• The parking area is hard surfaced; and
• The improvements are completed within one year
from the date of approval of this request.
Mr. Frederick said this was something that has been
apparent for quite some time. The Zoning Ordinance that
requires these NCU's seem to retard development or
improvement of deteriorating properties. He is told that
Ferris Development does good job and is doing tremendous
work in the city to rehabilitate a lot of deteriorated
properties. He is in favor of this and recommends that staff
take a look at all these NCU's and see if there is some way
to change the Zoning Ordinance to make this process a little
bit easier because as happy as he is to improve a
deteriorating building it would be much more efficient if we
did not have to hear the case in the first place, and just get
the building improved.
Ms. Stachowiak said that she will discuss it with the
Planning Manager.
Mr. Smith asked a question about the paved area extending
over the applicants lot line to the north. Ms. Stachowiak
said it overlaps the property along Pine Street to the north,
however, Ferris Development will only be able to use what is
within their property lines. If there is a problem with the
overlapping pavement, it is a private matter between the two
property owners.
Mr. Ruge asked if Mr. VanZee had any comments.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES August 7, 2001 Page 24
Mr. VanZee said this is a project that is out of the area of the
previous projects, but they feel that this is an area that
needs a lot of work. This is the same corner that Quality
Dairy is on and there have been problems in this area.
They want to go in and invest a considerable amount of
money to upgrade these 23 units and screen the clientele
very carefully so that they can upgrade the property and the
area. Ferris's office is located at 820 N. Capitol which is not
very far from 516 W. Saginaw and they want to improve the
entire area if possible.
Mr. Ruge asked about the situation with the lot to the north.
Mr. VanZee said that at one time, 516 W. Saginaw and the
property along N. Pine had the same owner. Ferris
Development is currently trying to acquire that property.
They have not purchased the other property, but they are in
negotiations and hope to acquire it. They are not sure
whether they will rehab that property or take it down to
provide more parking. One thing they have noticed during
the acquisition process for 516 W. Saginaw is that the
parking lot is never full. Most of those people use bus
transportation or walk to their place of business. A lot of the
clientele will remain there, the ones that qualify for low to
moderate income housing. Those that are over qualified or
those that cannot prove that they have income for those
units will not be able to stay.
Mr. Ruge said if they are unsuccessful in purchasing the
property to the north, do they plan to put a separation
between that property and Ferris' property?
Mr. VanZee said they surely can. Between the adjacent
properties to the north, and to the east they are planning on
putting a privacy fence. They are also working with the
Quality Dairy Store to fence that property in. They did not
propose anything between the house on N. Pine because
they are trying to purchase that property and they did not
want to put up a fence and then have to take it down if they
do acquire it because it will become part of the 516 property.
It was moved by Mr. Frederick, supported by Mr. Smith to
approve NCU-14-01 , 516 W. Saginaw, Class A
Nonconforming Status with five conditions as listed in the
staff report.
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Mr. Ruge asked if the city requires a privacy fence around
this property.
Ms. Stachowiak said no, since there is nothing really
changing on the site that necessitates the screening other
than that they are doing rehabilitation to the existing
structure. They are not proposing any additional pavement,
just some striping.
Mr. VanZee said that they will be resurfacing the parking
area. They are not going to expand it. They will provide
adequate striping and bumper stops for each space.
Ms. Stachowiak said the city would not normally require
screening in a case like this. The property is zoned "J"
Parking, the property to the north has a great deal of
pavement in its backyard and typically they would not
require this, but that does not mean that the Planning Board
cannot require it as part of its approval.
Mr. VanZee said they are installing the fence because it will
look nicer around that area and screen the area residents
from the apartment building and because there has been
some history with the lower fence such as people throwing
trash over the fence and so they are putting in a six foot
fence to try to contain everything in the property. They also
will have a screened dumpster in the area, which will be
away from the back property line so that it will not interfere
with the neighbors in that area.
Mr. Ruge said he noticed that the property abuts to at least
four other residential properties. He would ask, especially
since the applicant is going to do it anyway that there be a
condition that a six foot privacy fence be put around the
property.
Mr. Frederick accepted that amendment.
Ms. Patrick asked why they can't use some kind of green
buffering rather than a fence.
Ms. Stachowiak said they would not have any place to put
green space along the north property line and still comply
with the requirements for a two-way parking layout. She
also said that she is not sure how the fence is going to work
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along the north property line because there are restrictions
on fencing in the front yard and the front yard is determined
by the location of the structure. She asked that the motion
read "A six foot privacy fence be installed around property in
compliance with the Zoning Code requirements."
Mr. Frederick accepted the wording of the motion as
recommended by Ms. Stachowiak.
Mr. VanZee said the existing asphalt goes right against the
building all the way around, and they are going to remove
some of the asphalt to allow for a three foot landscape
buffer around the building.
On a Voice Vote, the motion carried unanimously (4-0).
b. NCU-15-01, 901-909 Vine St., Class A Nonconforming
Status
Ms. Stachowiak presented the case. This is a request by
Ferris Development. This is one parcel with two structures
addressed as 901 & 909 Vine St. The property is zoned
"DM-3" Residential and is 19,145 square feet in area. The
applicant is requesting the Class A so that they can put
money into the property for repairs and rehabilitation in
excess of 35% of the value of the buildings. The
nonconformity in this case is strictly side yard setbacks on
either side of the site (the east and west sides). The
required side yard setbacks for both sides of the property is
13.25 feet and on one side they have approximately 8 feet
and the other side they have 3 feet at its nearest point.
Those are the only nonconformities associated with this
property. The applicant recently combined the two lots at
901 and 909 Vine, on our recommendation, because in
order to meet their parking requirement for the nine
bedroom building they would need to have parking spaces
on the adjoining lot. The "DM-3" District permits more than
one structure on a lot that is less than 3 acres. There are
two diagrams in the packet, one labeled existing and one
labeled proposed. The proposed layout is a much better
situation than what currently exists. One of the curb cuts will
be shut off and there will be more green space on the
property from what exists now. It is a much better situation
all the way around. The only nonconformity in this case is
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side yard setbacks. The front and rear yards are in
compliance with the ordinance.
The Staff is recommending approval of this case with four
conditions:
1. The driveway and parking areas be hard surfaced
with Portland Concrete or Bituminous Asphalt.
2. The dumpster area should be properly screened.
3. The applicant complies with the minimum design
standards for parking spaces.
4. The site improvements are completed within one year
from the date of this approval.
Mr. Ruge said that there is going to be a lot of activity in the
parking lot with eleven units. He stated that the parking
area should be screened from the adjacent properties.
Ms. Stachowiak said there is a fence shown on the plan.
Mr. VanZee said it is relatively new. It is a chain link fence
that surrounds the property, half way back on the east side,
all the way across the north side and back up to the building
on the west side that has been put in within the past two
years. Ms. Stachowiak said that in terms of screening, there
are no plant materials. Mr. VanZee said there is a barrier
with a fence. There is quite a drop off at the back of this
property line onto the adjacent property line. The previous
owners of this were having problems with people just
crossing the lots, which is why the fence was put up,
however there is no screening.
Mr. Ruge said his other concern is the placement of the
dumpster because the noise from emptying them tends to
disturb people. He does not know if he sees a better place
to put the dumpster. Mr. VanZee said they try to keep them
in an area where it is easy for the truck to access.
Mr. Frederick made the motion; seconded by Mr. Smith to
approve NCU-15-01, 901-909 Vine Street, Class A
Nonconformity with the four conditions as listed in the staff
report.
Mr. Ruge said he just asked that they also require screening
of the parking lot, because he is concerned about head
lights and things of this nature.
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Mr. Frederick said he would accept that as a friendly
amendment.
On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (4-0).
There being no other items for consideration by the Committee of the Whole, Mr.
Frederick made a motion, seconded by Mr. Smith, that the Committee do rise; carried;
unanimous.
3b. Committee of the Whole Report, Mr. Frederick, Chairman.
a. NCU-14-01, 516 W. Saginaw, Class A Nonconforming
Status
Mr. Ruge presented the case.
This is a 23 unit apartment building. It was moved,
supported and carried unanimously to approve NCU-14-01
with the following conditions:
1 . The Class "A" meets all conditions required by
agencies referred.
2. The applicant implements a lease agreement limiting
the parking to one space per unit.
3. Compliance with the minimum dimensional
requirements for the layout of the parking area
contained in Chapter 1284.
4. The parking area be hard surfaced.
5. The improvements be completed within one year from
the date of approval of this request.
6. The property be screened by a privacy fence.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
It was moved by Mr. Ruge, supported by Mr. Smith to approve NCU-14-01, 516 W.
Saginaw, Class A Nonconforming Status, with conditions as noted above.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye Smith . .Aye
Ruge. . . Aye Patrick. . . Aye
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 4; Nays: 0; carried, unanimous;
APPROVED w/CONDITIONS.
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b. NCU-15-01, 901-909 Vine St., Class A Nonconforming
Status
Mr. Ruge presented the case.
This request involves two buildings, one with 9 units and
one with two units at 901 and 909 Vine Street. It was
moved, supported and carried unanimously to approve with
the following conditions:
a. The driveway/parking area be hard surfaced with
Portland Concrete or Bituminous Asphalt.
b. The dumpster area should be property screened.
C. The applicant must meet the minimum design
standards for parking spaces as specified in Section
1284.16 of the Zoning Ordinance.
d. All improvements to the site must be completed within
one year from the date of this approval.
e. The parking lot be screened from adjacent properties.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows:
It was moved by Mr. Ruge, supported by Mr. Smith to approve NCU-15-01, 901-909
Vine St., Class A Nonconforming Status, with conditions as noted above.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye Smith . .Ave
Ruge. . . Ave Patrick. . . Aye
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 4; Nays: 0; carried, unanimous;
APPROVED w/CONDITIONS.
3. Executive Committee - none
C. Report from Planning Manager - none.
D. Pending Items: Future action required
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a. Z-1-98, 1223 N.Turner St., "H"Light Industrial District to"G-1" Business District
(Tabled February 11, 1998)
b. Z-5-98, 401-407 E. Grand River, "F"Commercial District to"G-1"Business
District(Tabled June 10, 1998)
C. Z-8-2000, 3901 S. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd., "F"Commercial to"H"Light
Industrial District(Tabled June 14, 2000)
d. Z-15-2000, 301 W. Lenawee Street, Professional Office to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled January 17,2001)
e. NCU-2-2001, 1000 W.Jolly, Deja Vu, Expand Nonconforming Use (Tabled
May 9,2001)
f. P-1-2001,Tentative Preliminary Plat,Wexford Woods(Tabled June 13, May 9,
2001)
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2. Urban Development Committee
a. Act-9-2000,201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj. Sign Over ROW (Tabled June
27, 2000)
C. Discussion of Comprehensive Planning Process.
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planning Board
a. Act-12-01, 5550 S. Pennsylvania- Market Fire Station for Salem (tabled July 3,
2001)
b. Act-13-01,4801 S. Cedar Street,Acquire for Fire Station (tabled July 3,2001).
8. NEW BUSINESS -
Mr. Frederick said that Ms. Foster has job commitments and she will not be able
to meet with the Zoning & Ordinance Committee. Therefore, someone needs to
volunteer to be on both or change members.
Ms. Patrick suggested that there is a rotation so that each of the Urban
Development Committee takes a turn to ensure a quorum. Mr. Frederick
concurred.
General discussion ensued regarding schedules for the Zoning and Ordinance
Committee.
Ms. Patrick volunteered to attend the August 15, 2001 meeting, since she would
be attending any way regarding one of the issues being presented.
Mr. Ruge said he was concerned about a possible conflict of interest. He said
he did not know the issue, but he wondered if she would be presenting as a
citizen or a board member.
Ms. Patrick said if she was present as a guest she would be presenting some
historical information for the education of the Committee. If she is one the
committee she will share that information with the Committee, as opposed to
advocating.
General discussion ensued regarding the above issue.
Ms. Patrick will serve on the Zoning and Ordinance Committee on a temporary
basis for the August 15, 2001 meeting.
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON - None
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10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Mr. Ruge asked if the Zoning & Ordinance Committee can get some guidance on
what would constitute a significant change in regards to Z-3-2001. Ms.
Stachowiak said that there are some other documents with regard to the action
the Development and Planning Committee took in making a determination on
whether there has been a change and that will all be provided for the Zoning and
Ordinance Committee.
Mr. Ruge said a month or two ago he mentioned to Mr. Ruff about all the asphalt
patches that he sees on the sidewalks in his neighborhood and was concerned
that they were going to stay there. He is happy to report that they are all gone.
Mr. Frederick said he had a comment as a board member and not a chairperson.
He reported that Bill's Heavy Duty Wrecker Service has moved. They are gone.
He does not know where they went. It could be bad news wherever they went,
but it was like it popped up like a mushroom and it just disappeared. There is a
big pile of sand there now. Mr. Frederick said the wrecker business name is
Bill's Heavy Duty Wrecker. It was on Cavanaugh near the main drain. They
used to be over on W. Hodge Ave. and caused a lot of mess. Ms. Stachowiak
said that they were to supposed to have a new site in one of the industrial parks.
Ms. Patrick asked if there has been anything sent to the neighborhood group, if
there is a neighborhood group, regarding Crystal Woods. She pointed out that
here was nothing listed under the references. Ms. Stachowiak said that she
does not believe there are any neighborhood organizations in that area, but will
check to make sure.
Ms. Patrick said her second request is that notification of all future meetings be
given to the individuals that sent letters regarding Z-3-01. Ms. Stachowiak
asked if Ms. Patrick meant everyone who signed the petition. Ms. Patrick said
just the people who wrote letters. Ms. Stachowiak said that they will be notified.
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS - None
12. ADJOURNMENT was at 9:14 p.m.
Respectf Ily submitted
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James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
mn080701.wpd
Approved w/out corrections September 18,2001 Draft to Clerk September 13,2001
Approved September, 18,2001
To Clerk September 28,2001
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7 p.m., City Council Chambers -
Tenth Floor, Lansing City Hall
124 West Michigan Avenue
Tuesday, September 5, 2001
1. OPENING SESSION:
The meeting was called to order at 7:05 p.m. by Chairman Keene.
A. Roll Call. Present: Frederick, Foster, Patrick, Ruge, Keene. Five
members present; two vacant seats.
B. Absences - Smith (Moved by Ruge; Seconded by Frederick to excuse Mr.
Smith. Motion carried.)
C. Introductions. Jim Ruff, Planning Manager introduced Susan Stachowiak,
Zoning Administrator, and John Hodges, Senior Planner.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA.
It was moved by Mr. Frederick, supported by Ms. Foster to approve the agenda
with corrections. On a Voice Vote, motion carried unanimously (5-0).
Election of Officer's was added to the Agenda under New Business.
3. COMMUNICATIONS
a. Letter from Louie Boji stating that he is withdrawing Z-12-2001. Mr. Ruff
stated that since this case was being withdrawn and possibly re-applied
for by the property owner, it would be best if anyone was here to speak on
this case, to do so under the "Comments from the Audience" portion of the
agenda.
b. Letter from the Boys Training School Advisory implementation Committee.
C. Lansing School District Letter regarding the BTS Plan.
4. HEARINGS -
a. Z-11-2001, 3535 W. Mt. Hope, "F" Commercial & "J" Parking to "D-1"
Professional Office.
Susan Stachowiak presented the case. This is a request by Clark
Construction Company, the applicant and owner of this property.
Currently, there are three zoning designations on the property including
"F" Commercial, "J" Parking and "A" Residential. The applicant is
requesting a rezoning of the property in its entirety to "D-1" Professional
Office District. The purpose of this request is to use the existing building,
which is formerly the Elks Club Building for an office use and also to,
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sometime in the future, be able to construct another office building on the
property. The site plan is showing 39,000 sq. ft. for the new building.
The reason the owner and engineer are concentrating on usable floor
area is because their focus was on how much usable floor they could
have and still comply with the parking requirements. They determined
that if they stayed within 39,000 sq. ft. of usable floor area, they would
have adequate parking for another office building on the site. At this time,
the applicant's primary purpose is to convert the existing building to office
space and to have a uniform zoning designation of "D-1" Professional
Office. The requested zoning also provides a more appropriate buffer
between the mobile home park to the east and the Condo development to
the west. Some of the agency referrals that have come back indicate that
comments will be provided during the site plan review stage since the
construction of the new office building is off in the future.
DAVID COLEMAN, ATTORNEY FOR CLARK CONSTRUCTION. Mr.
Coleman stated that he is available to answer any questions the Board
might have regarding this case.
TED TERZINE, JR., 3502 MUIRFIELD. Mr. Terzine asked where the
second building is going to be built. He said that they were told that
nothing would ever be built on the vacant land behind the existing
building since that is the way it was given to the city or the Elks Club.
Ms. Stachowiak said that the future building will be south of the existing
building, approximately half way between the existing building and the
south edge of the property. Mr. Terzine asked if they are going to build it
where the parking lot is now? Ms. Stachowiak said that it is south of the
existing parking lot.
General discussion ensued regarding the site and the new building.
Mr. Terzine said he does not mind the Elks Club building being fixed up
for offices, however, he said that he is not sure about the other building.
He stated that if they could at least leave the grass area there, that would
be the best way to handle it.
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b. Z-12-2001, 3318, 3320, 3330 and part of 3312/3314 Cedar and 405 E.
Holmes, "E-2" Local Shopping District and "J" Parking District to "F"
Commercial District
John Hodges presented the case. He stated that essentially this was a
rezoning of several properties from "E-2" Local Shopping District and "J"
Parking District to the "F" Commercial District. The property is located on
the northwest corner of the intersection of Holmes and Cedar. As Mr.
Ruff has mentioned, the applicant has submitted a letter dated August 30,
2001 withdrawing his rezoning request.
C. Z-13-2001, 516 W. Saginaw St., "F" Commercial & "J" Parking to
"DM-3" Residential District
Susan Stachowiak presented the case. This is a request by Ferris
Development for the property at 516 W. Saginaw Street. The Planning
Board approved a Class A Nonconforming Use request for this property at
its first meeting in August. Currently, the property is nonconforming for
use, setback and parking. In order to obtain financing for the
rehabilitation project, the property has to be entirely in compliance with
the ordinance, not just have a Class A Nonconforming Status. The
applicant is trying to get rid of all the nonconformities and one of the
major ones is the use. The property is zoned "F" Commercial and "J"
Parking. The entire building is in the "F" Commercial District except the
north 4.2 feet which extends into the "J" Parking District. The request is
to rezone the south 137 x 64.08 feet from "F" and "J" to "DM-3"
Residential. One of the reasons the applicant chose to request "DM-3" is
because there is "DM-3" zoning directly adjacent to this property to the
east so it will not be spot zoning. The applicant intends to rehabilitate the
structure, continue using it for 23 one-bedroom units and restrict the
parking to one parking space per unit, however, they cannot obtain
financing as long as there are nonconformities that would prevent the
structure from being rebuilt if it were destroyed. In addition to the
rezoning, the applicant is also petitioning the Board of Zoning Appeals for
several variances. They are requesting variances from the requirements
of the "DM-3" District for front yard setback, lot coverage, parking and lot
area. Those variances, if granted by the BZA, will be useless unless the
zoning is approved. Therefore, the applicant is asking the BZA to
condition the approval of these variances on the rezoning going through.
If the rezoning and the variance requests are approved, the property
would be in complete compliance with the ordinance and the City could
issue a letter to Ferris Development that if the building burns down, it can
be rebuilt in accordance with the approvals that have been granted.
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Mr. Ruge asked why they are not rezoning the entire property to "DM-3"
instead of leaving the parking area zoned "J"?
Ms. Stachowiak said the reason they are not requesting that all of the "J"
parking area be rezoned is because parking is not permitted in the front
yard in the "DM-3" district.
Mr. Ruff said normally the City does not run into these types of issues and
it is not their preferred way of doing things because there is no addition
going on this building, it is an existing situation. He explained that Ferris
Development is using tax credit financing and they need assurances that
their tax credits would be continued for the length of the tax credit
purpose. Whereas, if it were normal financing, that usually is not the
issue.
RON VANZEE, FERRIS DEVELOPMENT. Mr. VanZee said that the
Planning and Neighborhood Development staff has guided them through
this quite carefully and has done a great job of presenting the case. He
told the Board that they intend to completely rehabilitate this building and
bring it up to Ferris Development's housing standards.
Mr. Ruge asked if there has been any progress or change regarding the
purchase of the house that is adjacent to the subject property. Mr.
VanZee said he has not made any more progress regarding the purchase
of the adjoining land. Right now, the only thing they could do with this
building is tear it down because it requires four parking spaces and as it
stands, there are only six more spaces available in that area.
d. PRD-3-01, Cohousing Development Corp., Planned Residential
Development, 3721 Aurelius Road
John Hodges presented the case. This an application by Cohousing
Development Corporation of Ann Arbor requesting a Planned Residential
Development to construct an 86 unit site condominium development on
the site of 3721 Aurelius, which is on the east side of Aurelius about a
quarter of a mile north of Cavanaugh. The land use pattern is primarily
single family residential. The character of the area is more of a mixed use
variety. There are condominiums, multi-family as well as single family in
the surrounding area. The area is designated on the master plan for low
density residential development, 71 units per acre. The applicant is
proposing, with the 86 units, a gross density of 3.66 units per acre which
is consistent with the future land use plan. This is somewhat of a unique
type of development which is called a Cohousing development and part of
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the process is that the residents of the site participate in the design of the
development. Therefore, the applicants only have the concept plans at
this point, and not the details of the exact type of structures, location and
size at this time. Part of the cohousing process also embraces creating a
quality livable environment through clustered housing as well as a more
pedestrian, family environment. In this particular development there will
be no roads immediately around the homes and the residents will have to
walk to the parking areas. The applicant is also not sure of whether the
homes will be attached or detached. The applicants, in their initial
conversation, said that at least, initially the idea is to have a 14 unit
attached condominium development towards the front of the development
and then there would two other 36 unit developments, one that would be
located centrally and the other that would be further to the east. They
have a three cluster development.
Mr. Ruge asked if the staff is aware of any other cohousing projects. Mr.
Hodges said he has not had any first hand experience, but the developer
has mentioned that they are involved in a similar development in Ann
Arbor.
Ms. Keene asked about the current stage of development for the project
in Ann Arbor.
JOHN LINDEBERG, PARTNER, COHOUSING DEVELOPMENT
COMPANY. Mr. Lindeberg stated that he lives in a cohousing project
and was one of the developers of the project four years ago. The kind of
features that Mr. Hodges described that would characterize the one that
they are talking about on the Aurelius Road site are consistent with the
one that is in Ann Arbor. He would be willing to show slides if desired, but
it is a 40 unit development, situated on about approximately 10 acres of
built area and another 10 acres of woods. They have parking on the
periphery and have identified and isolated significant amounts of green
space. They clustered the development of the housing in a five acre area
and provided an opportunity for a very child friendly atmosphere. There is
significant demand for the new cohousing project in Ann Arbor and it is
now deep into the architectural design stage. There are three people in
their company, the owner of the construction company that built the one
he is presently living in as well as the founder of his community and
himself. There is a wide range of experience in this and they are getting
into a much larger national network. For instance, the architects they are
working with have done 25 or 30 of these around the country. They were
looking for urban property close to the boundaries of East Lansing and
also the Campus and they were looking for a site within an existing
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neighborhood close to the kinds of amenities that are there, like the Potter
Park Zoo, and the other kinds of features that are attractive to people
when they think of moving into a neighborhood. He said that it is an
absolutely stunning site from the perspective of having wooded, natural
areas available within an urban setting. He reviewed the conceptual plan
and pointed out that the wetland areas would be preserved. There are
three different development clusters that they are proposing. Two that
are very similar to the ones that were described and the other that is
called a pocket community that has some of the same aspects of an
intentional community with some shared green space in the middle. This
would be a traditional Cohousing Development with walking paths and
pedestrian movement through the communities. There is an elementary
school nearby which is an important feature of the property. They have a
less detailed application than the Board might normally expect, however,
it has been their hope that in return for providing an innovative approach
that has been proven elsewhere, that there could be some flexibility in
providing detailed plans for the exact building footprints. They are
attempting to identify important core aspects of the project that they hope
will provide the Board with a good understanding and a commitment on
their behalf to do certain things within certain envelopes such as not
constructing more than 86 units of development. They are going to
commit to leaving 'Y' acres of undeveloped area and green space and
they will provide 172 parking spaces. He understands that the Board
does not have familiarity or experience with this type of development,
however, there has been considerable success with creating vibrant
communities within a larger community. They have met on several
occasions with the neighborhood group. Their understanding is that in the
packet that was provided, there was a letter from the local neighborhood
association president indicating that the neighborhood organization is not
opposed to this project and his understanding is that with this particular
neighborhood organization, it is unheard of to get an endorsement. They
do not want to be an isolated island, but integrated within the fabric of that
community and help that community to be dynamic and vibrant. They
believe that it will not be a threat to the local neighborhood housing and
real estate values and that they will be a positive addition area.
Mr. Ruff said that Lansing has had standard types of residential
development such as apartments, mobile home parks or typical
subdivisions where the developer clears the land and the only thing the
residents get to choose is the home style and the lot. The innovativeness
of this concept of people gathering and designing their community, how
they want it to look, not only in the design of their own home, but also in
designing what they want to look at out their front door is a step in the
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right direction. By saving much of the green space, the developer could
actually obtain density bonuses, yet their proposal is to be at a density
that would be equivalent to platting the land (3.5 units per acre). The
developer is proposing an owner occupied, family oriented development.
The staff has been trying to get enough detail on the development to
comply with the PRD requirements and still allow the developer options
within certain envelope areas. The necessary details include how much
buffer area is provided, how wide is the street, where would buildings
most likely be located in the area. The idea would be that there is some
flexibility in design so that it would not require going all the way through
the PRD process again. If some changes were necessary, the PRD could
be amended, otherwise it would proceed through the site plan review
process. From a planning standpoint and an administration standpoint,
the staff is enjoying the difference in the concept and the preservation of
green space, wetlands, trails and those types of things, that you do not
typically see with a standard development.
Ms. Keene said she can appreciate the concept of the owners
participating with the development, but she is curious about the
development that the developer lives in and the others that are in the
process. How long from start to finish do these projects take and have
you had any that have been started and then abandoned? Mr. John
Lindeberg said the first development they did themselves and about 15
families formed the first core group that bought the first piece of property.
From a cohousing perspective, the property on Aurelius Road is
wonderful. Once they find the property, it is necessary to put together a
core group of people to provide enough initial inertia so that if they put
together a design, it has their credibility within the larger group. His
partner that is with them tonight, Gene Townsend, is a member of the
core group in Lansing that want to live there and be part of the co-
developers. It requires 10-15 families to establish a core group. In Ann
Arbor it took 3 months to put together the first 10-15 families. Once that
happened, they started the architectural design and site design. He
stated that they have put together more design than they normally would,
but they recognize that they had to provide something to work with the
city. He said that the expectation is that later this year, they will have a big
enough core group to start the actual design process. Once that is
started, they will be talking with staff about site design issues and will
provide hard drawings. Right now they have a purchase agreement on
the property and what they are trying to do is seek a sense from this
group and the council as to whether this is wanted within the city of
Lansing. It does not make a lot of sense to buy the property and find out
that this is not consistent with the city's vision. Mr. Lindeberg said that it
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will probably take 3-4 years. They are not in the position to necessarily
do all three phases at the same time. They want to let one group do their
thing, go through the planning process and get into the construction
phase before they start planning with the second group.
Mr. Ruge said he noticed that they had access onto Callihan Ct. He said
that this is great, however, a lot of people who live on dead end streets
like their streets to be dead ends because they don't like the traffic. He
asked if they have talked to the neighbors about this? Mr. Lindeberg said
they realize that people who live on the end of a cul-de-sac would like to
keep it that way. It is very clear that they would like to keep most of the
traffic on Aurelius, but it is likely that fire officials are not going to allow
only one entrance and exit for a community of this size.
ROD BISHNER, 2225 LUWANNA DR. Mr. Bishner said that the
development is very impressive and nice. He also said that one of the
reasons that he and his wife moved into that neighborhood was the field
that backs up to their property. That field has been fallow for at least 12
years and probably longer. There are a number of different species of
wild life on the property including Fox, Badger and White Tail Deer. It
has become a habitat that is supporting that ecosystem. He feels that this
land should remain a natural habitat. He said that some consideration
should be given to looking at the property as a natural ecosystem.
DR. SAM RIFFLE, 2424 ARTISAN. Dr. Riffle said that he is here on
behalf of himself and his wife, Dr. Angela Riffle. He stated that he was
very pleased to see that the development plan really considers green
space and quality living within the development, however, they are also
concerned about what affect this will have on the surrounding
environments. The neighborhood is a very quiet, low traffic area with
mostly single family dwellings and it has attracted and continues to attract
stable families that stay for a long time. He said they are concerned
about what affects this development might have on the traffic and noise
levels in the area. Dr. Riffle said that he and his wife are strongly
opposed to any type of multi-family dwellings that would come in and
increase traffic. He stated that if there is to be any development, there
should be consideration given to plans that are consistent with the low
traffic, low noise, family oriented neighborhood that attracts and keeps
families in the city of Lansing.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES September 5, 2001, Page 9
JULIE BISHER, 2225 LUWANA DR. Her husband spoke regarding their
property backing up to the open area. She just wanted to reiterate the
wildlife that lives there. Every year they have deer that come in with their
fawns and eat off the apple trees. She asked the Board to think of the
wildlife.
PHYLLIS DARLING, 3706 STONELEIGH. Ms. Darling said that her
property abuts the wetland area. She stated that from the plans that she
has seen, the wetland area would remain, which would mean that this
development would not come up to her property. Her concern is the
wildlife because there are a lot of deer in the area and it would be terrible
to ruin their home. In addition, she expressed a concern regarding the
access that they are considering off of Stoneleigh Drive. She does not
think that there is enough room to put a street in the area and is
concerned about the access since there are a lot of children that play in
the area.
JEAN EGGEMIER, 3610-12 CALLIHAN. Ms. Eggemier said that she
lives in the duplex on the road that the applicant is considering as an
access point. She said that on the west side of Callihan the buildings are
all duplexes with quite a few families and children living in them. She
expressed concerned about the destruction that the new development will
cause during the three years of development. She does not want to see
this development become a detriment to renting their property. Ms.
Eggemier asked what the cost of these units would be?
Mr. Lindeberg said it all depends on what the individual members desire.
He said that the range of cost that have occurred at other places is
$100,000 to $250,000 depending on the size.
DIANE WATERS, 2107 PROVINCIAL HOUSE DR. She and her husband
have lived in their home for 13 years and the developer is quite correct, it
is a beautiful area there. It is hard to describe, you are in the city but you
are not. There is a lot of trees, vegetation and wildlife in the area. They
are concerned about the impact that this development is going to have on
their quality of life. They are concerned about increase traffic flow on
their road. She is also interested to know where their parking lots are
going to be? Are they parking lots or garages?
Mr. John Lindeberg said the parking is clustered around the periphery.
Typically, they would provide one covered space, either garage or carport
per unit and provide additional spaces to comply with code requirements.
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Ms. Waters said her concern would be what kind of vegetation buffers are
going to be in between the parking lots and the existing homes. She
appreciates that they do not want parking up near the houses, but they do
not want to overlook parking lots either. Ms. Keene said that Ms. Waters
could attend the Zoning and Ordinance Committee Meeting and have
some of those questions answered. Ms. Waters said that it is a very
intriguing idea and it is something they would be interested in, but they
are concerned about the impact that this development is going to have on
the existing neighborhood.
RONALD E. BROWN, 2429 ARTISON DR. He is also a building
contractor, so he is not opposed to this development, but he is concerned
with the type of development it will be, as far as the multi-family compared
to the surrounding single family area. His concerns are with the traffic
flow. Also, the effect that it will have on the values of the other homes in
the neighborhood.
MARK WATERS, 2107 PROVINCIAL HOUSE. He is the President of the
Manhattan Condominium Association and looking at the plans, one of the
buildings does present a question to him, where they are talking about the
800-1200 sq. ft. units. He said that it seems the developers are looking at
smaller units and he asked what target market this will fit in with. Mr.
Waters said that to have a development come in and say they do not want
to show very much planning or detail, causes concern. Aurelius is very
busy street and they would end up going back through Provincial House
and through the neighborhoods and it would increase traffic with multiple
different access points. He is not opposed to it but just has some
concerns, especially since they have not presented much information.
Mr. Frederick said he would like to point out to the Board members and
staff that he lives directly adjacent to the development and to avoid any
appearance of conflict of interest, he is going to request that he be
recused from any decision in the matter. He realizes that the Zoning and
Ordinance Committee would be short one person, at least for this case,
and he would like to suggest that someone fill in for him on this decision.
Ms. Keene said she sees no reason why they should not recuse Mr.
Frederick and when they get to the portion of the meeting on Committee
Reports they will discuss a replacement for him at the meeting.
Ms. Keene closed the public hearing.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (5 minutes each) - None
6. RECESS - 5 minute recess was taken
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES September 5, 2001, Page 11
7. BUSINESS
A. Minutes for Approval: August 7, 2001
Moved by Mr. Frederick, supported by Ms. Foster, to approve the minutes
of August 7, 2001 w/ corrections.
Mr. Frederick said on page 16, sixth paragraph down that starts with "Mr.
Frederick said. . ." The second sentence says "There is not way to vote. .
" he is not sure that he said that, but he is not sure what he said. He
would like to ask that the Secretary review that part of the tape and see if
he said "no way", rather than "not way". He thinks it is just a typo.
On a Voice Vote, motion carried, the Minutes of August 7, 2001 were
APPROVED w/ CORRECTIONS.
B. Committee Reports
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee - Mr. Ruge, Chairman.
The next Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting will be on
Wednesday September 12, 2001 at 4 p.m., 316 N. Capitol Ave.
Conference Room.
Mr. Keene said with regard to PRD-3-01, Mr. Frederick does not
wish to participate, and if the committee can consider this items
first, Ms. Keene can fill in at the meeting. Ms. Stachowiak said also
Ms. Foster will not be at that meeting so she is not sure if Ms.
Patrick was planning on attending that meeting also, if so there
may be four members. Ms. Patrick said she had not planned on
being there. Mr. Frederick said he would be there but just join the
meeting after Ms. Keene leaves.
Mr. Ruge said if Ms. Keene leaves, then only Mr. Frederick and
himself would be there because Ms. Foster would not be there. Mr.
Ruff said there are some options that they will have to discuss
because there is a conflict. Ms. Keene said she cannot be there
after 5:15pm and she is not willing to volunteer Mr. Smith. Ms.
Patrick said she would volunteer to be there if Mr. Smith cannot
attend. She would like to talk with the Zoning Administrator after
the meeting.
2. Urban Development Committee - Mr. Smith, Chairman.
Ms. Patrick said that as the Vice Chair she would like the Board to
know that they did not meet the last week of August. The meeting
was canceled.
The next meeting is, Tuesday, September 25, 2001, at 4 p.m., 316
N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES September 5, 2001, Page 12
The focus of this meeting will be the Master Plan.
3. Committee of the Whole - None
4. Executive Committee - none
C. Report from Planning Manager -
Mr. Ruff said there are a few items. It is his understanding that the Mayor
will be recommending a name for Board Membership. There are three
Boards with vacancies and hopefully there will be one new member for
each. There is a dramatic need in the HDC where there are six vacancies
and there are four vacancies on the Board of Zoning Appeals. Hopefully
within a month there will be a confirmation of one person. A little more
conversation is needed with the prospective applicant.
Second, the Boys Training School Implementation Committee did make a
recommendation to the Mayor and City Council and gave a favorable
recommendation but with a number of concerns and conditions. The
concerns/conditions have been also relayed to the developer and the
Board should expect a PRD and a Special Land Use application hopefully
soon.
Mr. Ruff said that he appreciates that he has a staff that can fill in for him
when he is absence. The other item would be the Board elections for
Chair and Vice Chair. This should really take place this evening, but if
the Board wishes to defer it until the next meeting, that should be fine.
This should have been on the agenda.
D. Pending Items: Future action required
3. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a. Z-1-98, 1223 N.Turner St.,"H"Light Industrial District to"G-1"Business District
(Tabled February 11, 1998)
b. Z-5-98,401-407 E. Grand River,"F"Commercial District to"G-1"Business
District(Tabled June 10, 1998)
C. Z-8-2000, 3901 S. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.,"F'Commercial to"H"Light
Industrial District(Tabled June 14, 2000)
d. Z-15-2000, 301 W. Lenawee Street, Professional Office to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled January 17,2001)
e. NCU-2-2001, 1000 W.Jolly, Deja Vu, Expand Nonconforming Use (Tabled
May 9,2001)
f. P-1-2001,Tentative Preliminary Plat,Wexford Woods (Tabled June 13, May 9,
2001)
g. PRD-2-01,"Crystal Woods", Planned Residential Neighborhood (Tabled August
15, 2001)
h. Z-3-01, 4720 S.Cedar St., "D-1" Professional Office to"F"Commercial (Tabled
August 15,2001)
i. SLU-3-01, Cavanaugh west of Aurelius (Tabled August 15, 2001)
2. Urban Development Committee
a. Act-9-2000,201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj.Sign Over ROW (Tabled June
27, 2000)
C. Discussion of Comprehensive Planning Process.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING MINUTES September 5, 2001, Page 13
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planning Board
a. Act-12-01, 5550 S. Pennsylvania- Market Fire Station for Salem(tabled July 3,
2001)
b. Act-13-01,4801 S. Cedar Street,Acquire for Fire Station (tabled July 3,2001).
8. NEW BUSINESS -
1 . Election of Officers
Ms. Keene said she would prefer to wait until next meeting.
Mr. Frederick moved to address the election of officers at the next regular
Planning Board meeting; Supported by Ms. Foster.
On a Voice Vote, motion carried (5-0).
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON - None
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Mr. Ruge said he is leaving town on September 14 and asked for an excused
absence for the next meeting.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, supported by Ms. Foster to excuse Mr. Ruge for
the next meeting. On a Voice Vote, motion carried (5-0).
Ms. Patrick asked Ms. Stachowiak if she had the neighborhood letter that was
referenced. Ms. Stachowiak said it is contained in the comment section under
the Agency Referrals in the PRD. The 3rd page of the Staff Report under FVNA.
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS - None
12. ADJOURNMENT was at 8:45 p.m.
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To Clerk October 25,2001
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7 p.m., City Council Chambers
Tenth Floor, Lansing City Hall
124 West Michigan Avenue
Tuesday, September 18, 2001
1. OPENING SESSION:
The meeting was called to order at 7:05 p.m. by Chairman Keene.
A. Roll Call. Present: Frederick, Foster, Patrick, Smith, Keene. Five
members present; two vacant seats.
B. Excused Absences - Ruge
C. Introductions. Jim Ruff, Planning Manager introduced Susan Stachowiak,
Zoning Administrator, and John Hodges, Senior Planner.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA.
Ms. Patrick asked that during the recess the Zoning and Ordinance Committee
meet and also there is a correction. Under the business Section, it reads "the
next meeting is on Wednesday, October 10th" that should read the next meeting
is on Tuesday October 91h. Ms. Stachowiak said that there is a problem with that
day.
Mr. Ruff said just to note, Wednesday at the top is a typographic error and it is
his understanding that it is probable that the Zoning and Ordinance Committee
would recess for a moment to refer PRD-3-01 to the Committee of the Whole for
further consideration this evening.
It was moved by Ms. Foster, supported by Ms. Patrick to approve the agenda
with corrections. On a Voice Vote, motion carried unanimously (5-0).
3. COMMUNICATIONS
a. Regarding Z-3-01: Letter from Josh McFee giving his opinion on why the
applicant is having problems marketing the property.
b. Regarding Z-3-01: Letter from Pat Hutchens, Realtor from Tommy Raines.
This is a recommendation to maintain the current zoning of the property.
C. Letter from Marjorie Morden regarding the rezoning of Cedar
Street/Syringa Drive Property.
4. HEARINGS - none
PLANNING BOARD MEETING REPORT SEPTEMBER 18, 2001, Page 2
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (5 minutes each) -
HARRY HILL, 328 SYRINGA DR. He is here to discuss some traffic issues
regarding the zoning of Z-3-01. He has some information that he put together
the last time the zoning was present before the Board. He has recently received
some information that he requested. Basically there is not a big change in traffic
patterns. The accident rates remain the same with the exception of the mid
block near Syringa, these are Cavanaugh/Cedar and Jolly/Cedar intersections.
For a small side street there are a large number of accidents. When you look at
the total number of accidents on the seven (7) intersections between Cavanaugh
and Jolly excluding Cavanaugh and Jolly, there are as many accidents on
Syringa as there are on all the other intersections combined. There are 28 for all
the other intersections and 24 for Syringa. Since 1995, that is the statistics for
that. In terms of traffic, Syringa Drive is not a square corner, it has an offset to
Cedar. What he did about a month ago, he counted some cars entering and
exiting McDonalds Restaurant and also Auto Zone and every 14 seconds during
the noon hour a car either enters the parking lot at McDonald's or exits. Over at
Auto Zone it is every 35 seconds, so there is quite a congested corner there.
Also for several days he counted traffic for the noon hour and also after work the
5-6 time period. During the noon hour every 1.4 seconds a car goes down
Cedar Street and during the 5:00 business period it is 1.2 seconds. So, basically
every time you blink your eyes a car is going by on Cedar. That is a high volume
and there are a lot of people going into McDonalds and coming out and the
same with Auto Zone. This brings up the fact that there is a lot of back up of
traffic. It is very common for traffic to back up even to McDonald's which is
several blocks away from the intersection of Jolly and Cedar. It backs up traffic
and therefore it causes congestion and also they use Syringa Drive to bypass
this intersection. So, additional commercial development there would cause
additional burden on the traffic and increase the accident rates and also this high
intensity, high volume business would not be appropriate for a neighborhood and
also surrounding businesses. Therefore, he hopes that the Planning Board
would support maintaining the current zoning of that property.
ED BENSON, 214 CLOVERLAND. This is one street South of Syringa. The
previous speaker has done a very good job of documenting why they feel the
way they do. They don't have the statistics as a group but obviously he has
done a masterful job of it. Indeed there is a lot of cutting through the
neighborhood during peak periods of traffic, mornings and afternoons. It is
during those times that they get the full brunt of the cut throughs. They as a
neighborhood group submitted a petition that contained seventy-six signatures in
opposition for the request for a rezoning. They respectfully hold the Board to
consider that petition as a very serious request from a small but very viable
neighborhood. They have noted a lot of speeding through and cutting through
as indicated before, increased volume, noise, including motor cycles. They know
PLANNING BOARD MEETING REPORT SEPTEMBER 18, 2001, Page 3
that there has been no particular marketing of the property per se. Recently
there has been a sign that it is commercially zoned, and he does not believe that
is necessarily correct, but even with that there has not been an increase of
marketing of that property. They therefore, respectfully request that the current
zoning, Professional, be retained.
SANDY ALLEN, 2"d WARD COUNCIL MEMBER. This zoning request has been
before the council a number of times in the past four or five years. Of course,
originally, Mr. Hacker owned the property and he wanted it zoned commercial
and the Planning Board in its wisdom did not see fit to zone it commercial. The
Council in its wisdom decided that "A" Residential probably was not appropriate
but neither was commercial, so they recommended on their own that it be
rezoned "D-1" Professional. That is appropriate for that area. On the corner of
Cloverland and Cedar Street there is a doctors office and an insurance office, so
there are several offices around there. Now, as you know, Cedar Street is full of
used car lots, if you use the zoning of "E-2" you are prohibiting car lots, but you
are allowing a restaurant, a fast food place and this is far to intense for that area.
She does feel that the "D-1" Professional if marketed properly could be sold.
What bothers her further is that the current applicant purchased the property with
the current zoning of "D-1" Professional knowing the history of this property. So,
she does not know what that says other than if you buy a property and are aware
of what the zoning is you do not speculate on the premise that the Planning
Board will rezone it. That disturbs her. As Mr. Benson said, the neighbors
signed petitions that were submitted to the Planning Board stating that the
neighbors feel that this is properly zoned "D-1" Professional. She would urge the
Planning Board to take stock in what the neighbors are saying, recognize the
history of the property and continue to have this zoning "D-1" Professional and
not send it back to the council with a recommendation of "E-2".
JACK MCPHEE, 325 SYRINGA. This is the property that immediately adjoins
the property in question. To summarize the letter the Board received, it indicates
why the marketing of this property has maybe gone off track. He questions the
owner's intentions. The Board is being asked to night to render a
recommendation on the rezoning application of this property. Whether or not
significant changes have occurred since the applicants last request for rezoning
has driven much of the discussion of the current application. He does not
believe that the applicant sufficiently supported the Zoning and Ordinance
Committee last week nor would be able to before this Board tonight. This case
that significant changes furthering his request have occurred since the last
rezoning, however, he does believe a significant change has taken place in
relation to his application that is both negative and unfavorable to his cause.
Unlike the applicant's previous request, his current application includes no site
development plan or proposal to support a zoning change. In line with the
surrounding neighbors, as you have already heard, this change is very significant
and a cause for great concern. It would appear that the applicant is hoping that
the City Council will give him a blank check at the expense of the neighborhood.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING REPORT SEPTEMBER 18, 2001, Page 4
So, tonight he implores this Board to do two things: 1) recommend to the City
Council that they reject Mr. Baryames' rezoning application because the only
really significant change is unfavorable to supporting it and 2) send a strong
message to City Council that you do not recommend any more intense zoning
than the current "D-1" Professional Office because it is not right for our city
officials to line the pockets of one land owner while devouring the properties of
the surrounding owners. Please do the right thing.
CHRIS BARYAMES, JR., OWNER of 4720 S. CEDAR. First, he would like to
take the time out to have the thoughts and prayers for all the victims and the
problems that are going on in New York. He would also like to wish his wife a
happy birthday. This property here at 4720 S. Cedar Street has been up for
rezoning before. There has been a comprehensive plan done and it is
recommended that this be zoned commercial. He does have this plan with him
and he would like to read some excerpts from that. People have come up and
three out of the four have talked about the traffic. He had the same problem with
a piece of property out in Okemos, it is a Kinkos in Okemos that is just before
Marsh Road. This property went in front of Meridan Township for variances and
they have passed. Yes, the neighbors came out and appealed it, and it went to
court three times in Lansing and was finally taken to the Michigan Supreme
Court and they would not look at it. This is the same type of situation. The
people that fought this for three and half years now to use that facility. This is an
example where this property has 130 feet buffer between the neighborhood.
The property is 313 feet from Cedar Street and the zoning request that he has
presented is 183 feet, so there is a 130 feet from the back property line to the
first residential house. If you look up and down Cedar Street everything is
commercial. From Mt. Hope all the way down. There are two lots that Mrs. Allen
stated, there are two because they have been there all these years. This
property is sitting there vacant because he can't sell it. He is not trying to market
commercial. He changed real estate companies. He works with Vlahakis Real
Estate Company now and their name is Vlahakis Commercial Investments. He
is in the real estate business himself. They have people call and complain about
the property and in the real estate business when people are interested in a
piece of property they put in an offer. They never put in an offer for the full price
that someone is asking. But, all this talk tonight that he is marketing the property
wrong. He has had no offers and it has been up for sale for 2 1/2 years. He would
like to give some excerpts from the Comprehensive Plan, this is referring to the
traffic. The plan says "at the time of the adoption of the comprehensive plan, the
professional Planning Staff and the Planning Board of the City of Lansing
recommend the future land use for this block face as commercial." This is
clearly reflected in the proposed land use plan of the Southeast Area
Comprehensive Plan for the City of Lansing. Therefore, it was clearly anticipated
and planned for, but the block face between Potter Street and Syringa Street be
redeveloped for commercial land use purposes. Additionally, based on most
traffic volume information that came from the city of Lansing, Syringa Drive has a
PLANNING BOARD MEETING REPORT SEPTEMBER 18, 2001, Page 5
current 24 hour traffic volume of 575 vehicle trips per day on a 24 hours basis,
26 foot wide pavement. This is well below the capacity for a local residential
street. By way of comparison, South Cedar Street between Mt. Hope and Jolly
Road carries 32,000 vehicles. "The recommendations from this study based on
the review of all available information of field checking and site requests it was
recommended of Community Planning Services that 4720 S. Cedar Street be
rezoned in the following manner." The S. Cedar Street frontage be rezoned to
"F" Commercial to the depth of approximately 183 feet. "That is exactly the
footage that his property is." This recommendation is based on the following
rational. The Southeast Area Comprehensive Plan adopted by the City of
Lansing recommends this block face for Commercial land use to a depth
consistent with existing commercial uses on S. Cedar Street. So, this property
has been in rezoning this many times because nothing has happened on this
property. Nobody wants to put professional office on a property that is not
accessible to high rises. If you look around on Creyts Road off 496, it is booming
professional office. If you look at Okemos Road on 96 it is all Professional
Office. That is where it is moving. That is why this property is up for rezoning,
because nothing can be done with it. He asks that the Planning Board
recommend approval of this and move this process ahead. He put this
application in back in February of this year, there was snow on the ground and
there is almost snow on the ground again. He doesn't know if he should say this,
but Ms. Patrick here on the Board lives right across the street and she headed
the last petitions to not get this property rezoned and he asks the Board that her
opinions not be heard because she has a conflict of interest. But once again
people are talking traffic, traffic, traffic. Kinkos is a perfect example. Let's move
this process along and please ask approval of this request.
JANICE SCOTT, 400 COX BLVD. The back of her property actually backs up to
the property in question. One thing that has been mentioned is how this has
been marketed. Never ever has there been a sign on that property advertising it
as Professional Office. The sign that continues there, just because somebodies
name is commercial in their business, how does that sound to people. That says
to people who goes by that it is commercial. The other reason that bothers her
as far as a commercial business down there is because she lives right behind
McDonalds and since they rebuilt and before they rebuilt they have had nothing
but problems. They had no respect for the neighborhood. They are still fighting
with them. She does not want anybody in her backyard that is commercial with
the noise, the traffic, the trash trucks at 4:30-5:OOam, the traffic at all hours of the
night. They don't even know what is going in there. There are no plans. This is
just ridiculous that this is allowed to be brought back up again these 6 or 7 times.
The neighbors don't want it there as you can clearly see from petitions and
everybody that has spoken here tonight and maybe if Mr. Baryames would like to
advertise it as what it is he might have had some bites on it. If you can't sell it
that way maybe it needs to be changed back to residential and a house can go
there.
PLANNING BOARD MEETING REPORT SEPTEMBER 18, 2001, Page 6
RONALD E BROWN, ARTISAN DRIVE. He is speaking on PRD-3-01. He gave
the board a letter regarding this case as well. His background is a building
contractor. He relocated from Traverse City about three years, so he has been
on both sides of these meetings and issues. The biggest concern that he has is
that this type of development and impact it will have on the surrounding
neighborhoods. What you have if you look at this property and go north, south,
east or west, the majority of the homes there are traditional, single family
residents. He thinks that a lot of the neighbors are upset about this type of
development and he said the developer has mentioned something about
checking with the neighborhood associations and things like that, but he does
not know of any formal neighborhood associations in the surrounding areas,
Artison, Stoneleigh and Luwanna Drive. Those are the families, houses and
properties that are going to be most affected by this type of development, so he
would like to see more into it and checking with the neighbors as far as how it will
impact them. He has been one of the organizers of the annual block party and it
has grown in the last three years and it has been a stable community but the
people that he talked to recently in the neighborhood feel that they are helpless
in stopping any type of development. He is not really against it being developed
because he is a building contractor, but he thinks that the development should
take into consideration the surrounding neighborhoods because most of the
people he has talked to the reaction to this type of deal is to sell their houses.
He has talked to two or three people and he thinks in the letter he brought his
property abuts up to that property and that is his action. He has seen that
development originally presented here. They had some nice color charts and
there were some large buildings and it was laid out pretty nice and he went to the
Zoning meeting last week and that had all changed. The buildings where gone,
there were 4 -6 unit condos or something like that. That is the other thing he's
looking at. Is this developer trying to adjust to make it fit in or are they not just
concrete plans and before this is approved he would like to see more concrete
plans in place and do some checking with the neighborhood people, like a town
hall meeting. The more you can get the people involved the more this will be
accepted. That is what he is trying to keep, the existing people are there to
actually become part of the development and part of that community rather than
put a big development in the middle and everybody else just spread out and you
have these families leaving and property values going down.
RODGER JOHNSON, 2428 ARTISAN. His property does abut to the planned
development there. He has not lived in a rose color world where he did not
believe that it would not be developed, but he is concerned about what type of
development is there. If it is something that turns out to be very highly
populated, he does have a concern that it will affect all the property values along
that line. There are a number of properties impacted by that. The other thing is
unfortunately he has not been able to be here for the other meetings, but it is his
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understanding that at this point, the development is planned in such a way that
the outlet from the development will end up on the existing residential street
rather than out on Aurelius Road. The existing residential streets are designed
in such a way that they were intended to be for a small development area. They
are not wide streets, they are not streets that go any place particularly, any of the
streets in the back of their development if you want to get to Aurelius Road you
have to follow around some curves and corner in order to get there. He thinks it
was laid out intentionally to prevent a large traffic flow through the area and it
has been used through the years. He is one of the original people in that
development there on Artisan Drive and one of the few that still remains. It has
had a small history of small children, young families. The families have never
had to worry about whether the kids where going to wander out into heavy traffic
because it receives one car every half hour, that is what the maximum would be.
His concern would be what it would do to the traffic in the existing developments,
not only on Artisan, but Luwanna Drive and the other streets back in there and
again, they are concerned about the property values if it turns out to be high
density housing.
BILL KINLEY, DEVELOPER. He thinks that they have addressed these issues
that were brought up in those meetings and he is available to answer questions
from the Planning Board and hopes they can address all the neighborhood
concerns. To restate, they had a neighborhood association meeting, the name
escapes him. One of their members attended that meeting and that has been a
month ago. They definitely would like to meet with any neighborhood group,
whether it is formal or informal to describe what the development will consist of
and they definitely want to be a neighborhood asset. Cohousing communities
are known for being very well integrated into the neighborhoods in which they are
located. The density that they proposed here is far less than the allowable
density for this general type of use and it is very much in what the density of the
single family neighborhoods surrounding that. He believes they have 86 units
total proposed for the 23.5 acres, which as this kind of built out residential
development is considered very low in keeping with the density of a single family
neighborhood. He would like to meet with anybody who is interested afterwards
and he would like to address one issue that came up. He talked with Mr. Hodges
briefly before this meeting and he might want to explain the same thing, but he
had a concern in their last small sub committee meeting a week ago as how they
would handle the private road. The main entrance is on Aurelius, there is a
secondary egress on this site to the side that exists now, but it definitely does not
funnel all the traffic out and he would be interested in going over those plans with
anyone who is interested. The issue of the private road and all the commonly
owned facilities on the site will be very well addressed by a higherarcheal
condominium association. It is commonly done. The attorney that we have
doing the condominium documents has done this in other previous associations
and basically to address Mr. Hodges concern, there will be one community
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association that covers the entire site with the three neighborhoods within that
site having their own condominium association. He talked with Mr. Hodges and
compared it with the relationship between the City of Lansing and the State of
Michigan, consider the State of Michigan the entire site and each of the three
neighborhoods within that site would be a city of Lansing, city of Okemos and
City of East Lansing. It is all very well addressed legally and he thinks it will elay
the concern that there is not a sole responsible party for all the commonly held
elements. So, he would very much appreciate the Board's support. He will be
available during the considerations if there are any questions he will address
them.
6. RECESS - There was a very brief Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting
during this time to discuss PRD-3-01.
Mr. Frederick reminded the Board that he has recused himself from this case so
he will not be able to attend the Z&O Committee and suggested that Ms. Keene
appoint someone to fill in for him.
Ms. Keene appointed herself to take Mr. Frederick's place.
In Committee: (Patrick, Keene and Foster)
a. PRD-3-01, Planned Residential Development, 23.49 acres at 3721
Aurelius Rd.
Ms. Patrick made the motion; seconded by Ms. Keene to remove PRD-3-
01, Planned Residential Development, 23.49 acres at 3721 Aurelius Rd.
from the table.
On a Voice Vote, the motion passed (3-0).
M. Keene made the motion; seconded by Ms. Patrick to refer PRD-3-01,
Planned Residential Development, 23.49 acres at 3721 Aurelius Rd. to
the Committee of the Whole.
On a Voice Vote, the motion passed (3-0).
The Committee adjourned.
7. BUSINESS
A. Minutes for Approval: September 5, 2001
Moved by Mr. Smith, supported by Ms. Patrick, to approve the minutes of
September 5, 2001.
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On a Voice Vote, motion carried, the Minutes of September 5, 2001 were
APPROVED.
B. Committee Reports
Ms. Patrick made the motion; seconded by Ms. Foster to dissolve into the
Committee of the Whole. On a voice vote, the motion carried (6-0).
1. Committee of the Whole, Mr. Smith, Chairman.
a. PRD-3-01, Planned Residential Development, 23.49
acres at 3721 Aurelius Rd.
Mr. Hodges presented the case.
At the last Board meeting this matter was tabled and it was
brought up in discussion at the Zoning and Ordinance
Committee. At that time a revised plan was presented and
discussed. The outcome of that discussion was that the
information was still insufficient and so they did a quick
review in accordance with the ordinance. As a result the
applicant had expressed his desire to prepare a revised plan
that met the concerns and have that submitted by this noon.
With the Board's packet the revised plan is included. On the
staff report the summary, analysis of site plan provisions and
the recommended action. Essentially, the plan meets the
criteria for the Planned Residential Development standards
of the ordinance. With respect to the site plan standards,
what is required, the revised site plan seems to supply
sufficient detail to do an analysis in respect to the general
systems. Some of the main concerns were the circulation
and how that was going to work, an idea of the different
types of housing that may occur would have adequate
setbacks, that there would be an adequate internal
circulation system for pedestrians as well as vehicles,
provisions for safety vehicles, etc. Looking at this plan, it
does appear to meet the criteria of the ordinance for a
development plan and discussing this with the applicant they
had expressed their inability to provide a definitive plan of
the development due to the nature of this particular
proposal, but what was resolved is that there are three
development areas in the plan. The development, as long
as the standards were adhered to, certain deviations in
terms of the general layout of those structures would be
acceptable and still be in conformance of the plan provided
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that certain criteria could be observed. These include: # of
housing units within any of the three development areas
could not increase, the boundaries of the development area
remain unaltered, the location of the road and associated
infrastructure within the ROW could not appreciably change
and the areas outside of the development area remain in the
site condominium plan as condo space. In addition,
consideration of another condition would be that any of the
area that is outside of these defined development areas
would be established in the site condominium development
as common open space. So, by essentially not changing
the number, the overall density, and the number of units in
the development area does not increase that this plan would
meet the criteria if the structures and configurations should
change. They are showing a number of duplex, threeplex
and quadplex units and single family detached dwellings and
the final outcome could be a variety of any of those housing
types. Any of these would equally fit within the criteria of the
ordinance and in general the concept of being able to cluster
the development in this manner has certain advantages that
would support their recommendation for approval. The
ability to cluster the units and relatively low density proposed
does result in a significant amount of open space that will be
retained. There are some unique natural features on this
site. This would appear to be a good way to make sure that
those are maintained. In comparison, a contemporary
means through a platting process to get a comparable
number of units they would substantially loose pretty much
all of the natural features and maybe with the exception of
the wetland area and it would be probable that it be
converted into a detention area. There was also some
design issues that may merit some attention. The layout
was good, but the layout for the pedestrians, if you notice
that there is a walkway that connects to the major streets,
Aurelius and Callahan Court. It ends in the middle of the
eastern most development and he thinks it would be
appropriate to continue that walkway at least to end of the
cul-de-sac and the end of that road. As discussed, he has
added some connection to Stonleigh Drive so that there
could be adequate circulation to other points within the
neighborhood in general and it would be important to
maintain that. The applicant's were concerned about not
degrading the character of this natural area. It would be
recommended that a system be in place to accommodate
pedestrians on an all season basis. He thinks it could be
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reasonably achieved without significant degrading of that
area and therefore it is recommended that a surfaced trail
extend from the cul-de-sac to the Stoneleigh Dr. that would
be asphalt or concrete. As a result of reviewing the criteria
and the site plan conditions it is recommended that this plan
be approved subject to a number of conditions:
• the number of housing units within any of the
development areas do not increase;
• the boundaries of the development areas
remain unaltered;
• the location of the road and associated
infrastructure within the ROW do not
appreciatiably change;
• the areas outside the development area
remain in the site condominium plans as
common space;
• the property not be divided into separate
parcels; (this issue was in relation to the
potential problem, as the applicant discussed,
having multiple developments that would be
sharing some common improvements in
particular the private road, but as he
mentioned that the approach would be under
one condo ownership and may be several site
condo associations representing the individual
phases. That type of mechanism would still
provide for an overall association responsible
for the maintenance of the shared common
improvements and the concern about a private
road is no longer a factor.);
• the proper sidewalks be constructed along the
entire frontage of Aurelius Road and
Stoneleigh Drive;
• sidewalk extend to the end of the private road;
• a walkway between the private road and
Stoneleigh Drive be constructed of either
asphalt or concrete; and
• site plan review of the development phases.
Ms. Foster said the staff is recommending an asphalt
connector between the turn around and Stoneleigh Drive?
Saying that it is going through a wetland, she would like to
know why? Would a wood chip path do as well? Mr.
Hodges said the other thing is that as far as use by bicycles
it would not be as accessible for them and also it does not
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serve as well on an all weather basis. He does not think it
would hold up. The wood chips going down into the soils, he
thinks there needs to be something with a better base to it.
He thinks it can be done without moving the vegetation. He
thinks they need something that is a little more substantial
and that it would be a significant linkage to the school and
other facilities.
Ms. Patrick said she was at the Zoning and Ordinance
Committee when there was some discussion and it is
covered in the minutes from September 5, 2001 that the
applicant has proposed an exit from Callahan Court. She is
wondering if that is in conflict with the staff's
recommendation of the boundaries not being changed. Also,
the applicant made a statement that it is likely that fire
officials are not going to allow one entrance and exit for a
community of this size meaning Aurelius Road. There are
no comments from the Fire Department is that in the staff's
opinion the case? Is there going to have to be two exits and
is that the best second exit to have? Mr. Hodges said they
certainly do strive to have more than one access to the
development should that be blocked for any reason, so
having more than one, he is not sure that it would be
mandatory for a cul-de-sac of this length but it would
certainly be advisable. These are common concerns of
abutting properties when they are expanding on a
development, but their intent is to promote internal
circulation as development occur that they also be part of
those internal residential areas and that they expand their
local internal street network as part of a process. He thinks
that is the intent, that Court was a stup street rather than a
cul-de-sac. The design was meant to end at the property
line for the intent that they expand for the next phase of
development.
Ms. Keene said with all due respect Mr. Hodges, she does
not feel comfortable taking action on this tonight because
they got a revised plan when they walked into the Z&O
Committee meeting last Wednesday and again tonight
another revised plan with a fairly substantial staff report as
well and she does not believe she has heard anyone from
the Board necessarily that they are not comfortable or they
aren't disposed to approving the plan, but as a Board
member she would feel more comfortable if she had a more
adequate opportunity to actually take a close look at the
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revised plan, carefully read the staff report before she goes
forward with this. She is going to move to table this and
hopefully vote on this at the next Planning Board Meeting on
October 2, 2001. She would feel more comfortable after she
has adequately reviewed this information.
Ms. Keene made a motion; seconded Ms. Patrick to table
PRD-3-01, Planned Residential Development, 23.49 acres
at 3720 Aurelius Rd.
On a Voice Vote, the motion carried (5-0).
TABLED.
Ms. Keene moved, seconded by Ms. Patrick to arise from the Committee
of the Whole. On a Voice Vote, the motion carried (6-0).
2. Zoning and Ordinance Committee - Mr. Frederick reported.
a. Z-13-2001, 516 W. Saginaw Street, "F" Commercial and
"J" Parking to "DM-3" Residential District
The applicant, Ferris Development, is requesting rezoning in
order to receive financing. The financiers want to be
assured that if this multiple family housing unit the applicant
is restoring is destroyed that it will be rebuilt under current
zoning again for multiple family housing. Under the current
zoning if it did burn or was destroyed it could not be
redeveloped and not only is that not satisfactory for the
financiers it is not something that the Zoning and Ordinance
Committee would want to see. It was agreed that what is
currently being used as residential turned into commercial.
The applicant requests rezoning of the south 137' x 64.08' of
the property at 516 Saginaw from "F" Commercial and "J"
Parking to "DM-3" Residential District. A Class A
Nonconformity was approved but it was not satisfactory to
the financiers. The applicant has also applied for variances
with the Board of Zoning Appeals under appeal number
BZA-3640.01 to bring the property up to compliance with the
zoning code. He attended the BZA meeting last week and
they did vote to approve contingent upon the approval of the
Planning Board and the City Council of the rezoning. The
variances will be granted if everything flows through
properly.
The proposed zoning and existing land use are compatible
with the surrounding area. There are no proposed changes
to the existing land use which is currently a 23 one-bedroom
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residential unit. There is no impact anticipated on vehicular
and pedestrian traffic patterns. No environmental impact is
anticipated and no impact is anticipated on future patterns of
development for this area.
Mr. Ruge inquired about obtaining a lot that is currently not
being used just to the north adjoining the property for
additional parking, which was the point of the variances and
Mr. VanZee, representative of Ferris Development, stated
they were unable to come to agreement with the property
owner for something that was within their budget so they
were unable to obtain that additional piece of property,
although they did express a desire to do so and he believes
they will continue to try. Mr. Ruge also expressed a concern
about the lack of landscaping. Ferris agreed to do as much
as possible with the limited space that they have and will
work with staff on that.
The Committee voted unanimously to approve Z-13-2001,
516 W. Saginaw Street, "F" Commercial and "J" Parking to
"DM-3" Residential District.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Patrick to approve Z-13-2001, 516 W.
Saginaw Street, "F" Commercial and "J" Parking to "DM-3" Residential District.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Foster. . . Aye
Patrick. . .Aye Smith . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye
Keene . .Aye
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 5; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous;
APPROVED.
Mr. Ruff said the rezoning will be passed along to City Council with this vote, yet
because it lacks six (6) affirmative votes it will not go with an official recommendation,
but all the information will be passed along to City Council.
b. NCU-2-2001, 1000 W. Jolly, Deja Vu, Expand
Nonconforming Use
The applicant, MCI Limited, represented by Mr. Jim St. John
proposes to expand the existing nonconforming use by
constructing an addition to the west side of the building. The
addition measures 14' x 136' which would add an additional
1,904 sq. ft. to the building. It is estimating to cost $300,000.
Currently the property has Class B Nonconforming Status for
both use and parking which limits the amount of building
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improvements to 35% of the building value, which was
assessed at $157,589 in 1984. Evaluation for the building
improvements for the building since 1984 total $24,000
which equals 15% of the total value leaving them 20% or
$31,156 of the total for future improvements. Thus, in order
to improve the structure for the projected cost of $300,000,
the applicant is seeking Class A nonconforming status.
The applicant originally planned to remove the existing
ground pole sign and install a fascia sign on the east side of
the building. This was changed because it would face
adjacent residential properties and would not be allowed.
The applicant agreed to relocated the primary entrance and
the sign to the west side of the building.
Section 1296.01(c) of the City of Lansing Planning and
Zoning Code states that no adult business shall be located
within 300 feet of any residentially used or zoned land. This
is why the business is not conforming, so the purpose of this
request is to allow for the extension and restoration of the
nonconforming use.
The request involves a nonresidential use located on a local
street and the Transportation Engineer reports a negative
impact. This request involves a nonresidential use which is
not located on a local street, and no transportation impact is
anticipated.
The activities association with the nonconformity must not
generated smoke, air pollution, etc. and the activities
association with this nonconformity do not. So the second
item of the code is met.
The nonconformity does not meet one or more of the
parking requirements and according to the Lansing Fire
Inspector, the existing facility, not including the book store,
contains 3,855 sq. ft. of usable floor space and has a
maximum occupancy load of 257 people. Planning Staff
determined that 86 parking spaces are required plus an
additional 21 for the existing book store. The total parking
requirement is 107 spaces. With the revised plan it would
require 24 parking spaces. That is 88 parking spaces plus
24 parking spaces be required for the book store for 112
required and the site plan shows 122 parking spaces so that
requirement is met.
In 1992, the property was issued a special land use allowing
for 72 off street parking spaces in the "A" Residential District
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east of the building facility. The approval of this SLU was
subject to several conditions, one of which declares "No
expansion or change which increases the intensity of the
building will be endorsed or encouraged." So, the proposed
expansion then is in violation of the Planning Board's
recommendation and council actions in SLU-20-91.
Therefore, the Board cannot approve the expansion. The
applicant would need to make a request to the City Council,
in writing that this condition or for SLU-20-91 be revised or
eliminated.
In Committee they considered the request and determined:
1 . That if the existing ground pole sign was removed,
that all wall signs would meet sign code requirements,
including the prohibition of wall signs on the east side
of the building.
2. That the maintenance of the existing landscaping be
continued.
3. That the building be painted a neutral beige or tan
color.
4. Completion to the improvements or changes be
completed one year from the date of this approval.
5. That this would not increase the intensity of use of the
nonconformity.
Therefore, with the conditions above, the Board does have
the authority to approve this NCU as requested with the
addition.
Mr. Frederick moved to approve NCU-2-2001 with the
conditions listed above. What they determined was that this
does not increase the intensity of the use and therefore
allows for them to make this approval. In other words, they
did not approve the proposed plan, but what they did was by
putting the conditions on it, it limits the use to improve the
condition of the site, rehabilitate it, encourage and in fact
require the applicant to improve the building and maintain
existing improvements and again, to reduce the signage and
reduce the effect that this business has on the surrounding
residential neighborhood. He would like to point out that one
resident did testify that the Deja Vu has been a good
neighbor and did not expect them to be anything different
because of this. So, they thought they had the authority to
go ahead with these conditions that were put on it to not
increase the intensity.
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PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Foster to approve NCU-2-2001, 1000
W. Jolly, Deja Vu, as modified Class A Nonconforming Use with the conditions set out
in the staff report.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Foster. . . Ave
Patrick. . .Ave Smith . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye
Keene . .Aye
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 5; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous;
APPROVED as MODIFIED w/CONDITIONS.
C. Z-3-01, 4720 S. Cedar St., "D-1" Professional Office to
"F" Commercial
This is a request by Mr. Chris Baryames, Jr. to rezone the
east 183 feet of the property located at 4720 S. Cedar from
"D-1" Professional Office to "F" Commercial. The west 130
feet is proposed to remain "A" Residential.
CASE HISTORY: On January 17, 1994, the Planning Board
voted unanimously 7-0 to recommend denial of Z-5-94, a
request to rezone the subject property from "A" Residential
to "F" Commercial. January 15, 1995, the Planning Board
voted unanimously 6-0 to recommend denial of Z-11-95, a
request to rezone the subject property from "A" Residential
to "D-1" Professional Office and "F" Commercial. The
Planning Board vote on May 21, 1996, voted unanimously 6-
0 to recommend approval of Z-4-96 to rezone the property
from "A" Residential. The petition was to rezone only the
east 183 feet of the property to "F" Commercial. City
Council denied the request. The Planning Board on
February 4, 1997 voted 2-4, failing to recommend approval
of the request to rezone the east 183 feet of the subject
property from "A" Residential to "D-1". However, it was this
action that brought the property to its current "D-1"
Professional Office zoning because the City Council
approved this zoning on May 19, 1997. On January 12,
1999, the Planning Board voted 6-1 to recommend approval
of Z-13-98 to rezone the east 183 feet from "D-1"
Professional Office to "E-2" Local Shopping District. City
Council denied this request and the applicant is again now
before us asking for "F" Commercial District again. This is
again another unusual situation, at least in his experience.
The Planning Board is being asked to determine whether or
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not the rezoning previously acted upon and if there is a
significant change in circumstances from prior requests that
warrant the change in the zoning. If this change of
circumstances is met, the changes should be articulated.
The applicant provided a letter, June 4, 2001, listing the four
items that he considers the changes in circumstances. They
are:
• After the property was not rezoned in 1998, it
remained on the market for sale as "D-1" Professional
Office.
• The site has been vacant since 1999 after the vacant
house was demolished.
• Richter's Garden Center, located directly across the
street, closed its doors in the Fall, 2000.
• The McDonald's restaurant which abuts the property
directly to the north was demolished and rebuilt in
March, 2001.
Also, the applicant states that his proposal is for commercial
use and un-specified rather than a Coney Island Restaurant
as he previously proposed.
Based on this letter, the Development and Planning
Committee of the City Council determined that enough
changes have occurred in the area of rezoning that warrant
another review of the case.
There was discussion about the significant change. Two of
the members agreed that there were not enough changes
from the previous request to warrant another review. One
member dissented citing a change that there is a proposed
use in the previous request for rezoning and on this
application there is no proposed use at all and the
descending member, Ms. Patrick, said the request should be
reconsidered and should also base the current zoning is in
compliance with the Master Plan. Both Mr. Ruge and Mr.
Frederick believe that the previous zoning "E-2" that was
recommended by the Board when this was last looked at is
also in compliance with the Master Plan. Also, Ms. Patrick
wanted to know if there has been an increase in traffic in the
area and Mr. Ruge asked to be provided with the traffic
information. He does not know if that information is
available tonight. Ms. Stachowiak said she did get some
information from the Transportation Engineer. Basically
what he said was that the previous information they provided
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for past requests is still valid. In the staff report there is
some information in regard to traffic counts specifically along
Syringa. What he added to that is that "Syringa is
developed as a residential street, however, there is a
component of cut through traffic that bypasses the traffic
operation at Cedar and Jolly during peak hours. The levels
of cut through traffic is undetermined but estimated to be 75
to 150 vehicles between 4-6pm which is the peak traffic hour
of the day." He then goes on to say that commercial
frontage and the associated traffic activities are to be
expected along Cedar Street although a driver can not be
prohibited on Syringa it should be strongly discouraged. Mr.
Ruge is not present tonight but Ms. Patrick did ask for that
information. Is that satisfactory? Ms. Patrick said with what
they heard tonight yes.
Therefore, the Committee moved that there has been no
significant change and that they where also informed that
they could recommend to City Council what their feeling was
on this and moved to pass along to City Council the
Planning Board's previous recommendation to rezone the
property to "E-2" as in their previous review of this
application.
PLANNING BOARD ACTION on the motion was as follows.
Mr. Smith said he needs some clarification on "E-2", what it actually covers.
Mr. Ruff said "E-2" is considered a Local Shopping District that basically allows more
convenience type commercial uses and it does not allow motor vehicle sales or that
type of outdoor display sales. Those are primary differences from the "F" Commercial
that the "E-2" allows all of the things office zoning allows plus a step up to local
commercial type uses (gas stations, convenience stores, Quality Dairy, etc.).
Mr. Smith said conceivably they would generate as much traffic as if it were a building
or business in "F" Commercial.
Mr. Ruff said it is a form of commercial zoning, but does not quite have all the same
uses as "F" Commercial. "F" Commercial allows comparison retail like the big box type
things, regional type things. This site is not large enough to handle those type of uses,
but "F" Commercial allows by special condition a display for motor vehicle sales and
other types of outdoor display sales.
Mr. Smith said in effect the "E-2" could still generate as much traffic as if it were "F".
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Mr. Ruff said correct and typically have similar hours as a use that would be in that
district which they can't restrict in any zoning district, but in that fashion they could have
similar characteristics as commercial.
Mr. Frederick said he and Mr. Ruge were both on the Planning Board when they
addressed this last. The applicant requested a rezoning to "F" Commercial and at that
time they felt that "F" Commercial was too intense and the initial information was to
deny the request outright, but Mr. Baryames indicated that he planned to put a
restaurant on it and because they felt that the Master Plan allowed, in fact,
recommended that this property be commercial and that an "E-2" would allow a
restaurant, which would agree with Mr. Baryames plans, and since he was not
proposing to rezone the whole piece of property but only the 183 feet from the back
which would allow a significant buffer between the property and the residential area to
the west of it that they felt that "E-2" was an appropriate rezoning at that point. That is
why at that time, they recommended to City Council that it become "E-2". They also
understood at the time, which still exists, if it was rezoned from "D-1" Professional to "E-
2" and Mr. Baryames changed his mind and did not want to put a Coney Island in he
could put in anything that he chose by right in that particular zone. While they took Mr.
Baryames indicates to put in a Coney Island we knew that plans change and they made
their prime decision based on the fact that the rezoning to "E-2" was appropriate
basically for anything that could be placed on that piece of property that would be within
the "E-2" definition. They did not vote in favor of it because they thought Mr. Baryames
would put a restaurant in. He had not presented the Board with a plan at that time, he
had just said that is what he wanted to put in at that time. They knew they could not put
any restrictions on rezoning anyway so "E-2" was appropriately felt and would allow Mr.
Baryames to enjoy the pleasure of this property even if that would include simply selling
it or anything else that the "E-2" would allow. That is essentially why the "E-2" was
recommended.
Ms. Foster said talking about the Comprehensive Plan recommends that the area go to
14D-1" and "E-2". Are the "E-2" uses pushing the recommendations of the
comprehensive plan? It just seems like everything goes up by a degree so is "E-2"
almost to the edge where this neighborhood could handle that or is "D-1" a lesser
development. What is the Comprehensive Plan? What guidelines do they have?
Ms. Stachowiak said the Comprehensive Plan designates this area for commercial.
Ms. Foster said even with all those residential areas that are on that road?
Mr. Ruff said the Comprehensive Plan as developed does recommend for commercial
use. At least the frontage of this property. It is a little deeper than adjoining property
that have frontage on Cedar Street and that is why the depth is only equal to that of the
adjacent properties. Even though the depth of the property is greater than the adjacent
properties the depth of the commercial zoning or the office zoning at present only goes
back to the frontage line that the other properties represent so that the west 130 feet for
residential purposes or zoning. So, the Master Plan represents it that way. Now, as a
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point of clarification, commercial uses include office uses so it is somewhat a pyramid
of uses in the zoning code to certain points. So, office uses are allowed in commercial
districts but commercial uses are not allowed in an office.
Ms. Patrick stated. First with respect to any possible conflict of interest or appearance
of conflict of interest that was alledged this evening. She does want to remind the
Board that on the evening of the public hearing of this case, she disclosed the proximity
of her home to the property and indicated that she had factual knowledge of the case
because of the number of rezoning applications that there has been over the time she
has lived there. She has lived in the neighborhood for 28 years. She has been very
scrupulous about maintaining her position as a Board member in providing information
to the board because of her knowledge of the property. She does represent the second
ward, that was her charge when appointed and so she is expected to be more
knowledgeable about the properties in her.area. To provide factual information to the
Board, to provide factual information to the neighbors about the process. If you were
on the Board you could imagine, if not how difficult it would be to find out some of this
information so she has provided that to the neighbors and when she would ask
questions that she could not answer, either because her knowledge or she did not feel
she should, she passed them on to staff. She believes some of these individuals in her
neighborhood have contacted Mr. Ruff and Ms. Stachowiak. Beyond that, she would
ask if questioned, that while the Board has talked about what has changed since the
last time, her understanding, and if she is wrong please correct her, is that the Board
has been charged by the City Attorney to determine that if there has been a significant
change in circumstances from prior requests that would warrant a change in zoning, not
a change in what the last Board or some previous Board thought the zoning should be,
but whether or not it warranted a change in the current zoning and she thinks that on
the Zoning Ordinance Committee they agreed that there has been a significant change.
Whether it was presented by the applicant or anybody else that would warrant a change
in the current zoning. But as far as the issue that the Board has been recently
discussing, which is what zoning designations are compatible with the Master Plan, she
thinks that has been adequately addressed, but that is a preliminary screening measure
that needs to be gone through when the Board is looking at a case. The next level of
screening to determine whether this property is being proposed for an important zoning
is what the impact will be on the street, the surrounding property and the neighborhood
and any businesses that surround the property and she thinks that is what has been
looked at intensely tonight. It is difficult sitting up here to hear emotional appeals based
on "I had a feeling that it would have this potential impact", everyone has experienced
that, however, what the neighbors have done is they have attempted to the extent that
they can to extract factual information which has led them to indicate that they believe
that the "D-1" zoning, which they had agreed to a number of years ago is business
friendly and not too intense to maintain the character and quality of the neighborhood
behind it. So, that is where she is coming from and she thought some of those remarks
would be helpful.
Mr. Frederick said he has to support Ms. Patrick in her claim to address conflict of
interest and he has appreciated her experience with this issue. She was not with the
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Board in 1998-99 when they last addressed this and he has not detected one slight of
iota of conflict in any of her behavior and he appreciates everything that she said in the
Zoning Ordinance Meeting, and she has been through this whole thing with them (Mr.
Ruge and himself) and he appreciates her comments tonight and they do not come
from any conflict at all, but knowledge and experience only.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to pass on information to City
Council that the Planning Board finds no significant changes to the circumstances that
would require that the Planning Board change it's previous recommendation and further
pass along that the previous recommendation to rezone to "E-2" should be considered
by City Council.
Ms. Patrick asked if this is a two part question. Mr. Ruff said the motion was made in
one part so if the motion fails as a standard motion then another motion could be made
to divide it or make another type of motion.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Foster. . . Nav
Patrick. . .Nav Smith . . Na
Keene . .Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 2; Nays: 3; does not carry;
MOTION FAILED.
Ms. Foster made a motion; seconded by Mr. Smith that there were no changes of
circumstances that would require a change to the zoning.
Mr. Frederick said his clarification is that the significant change simply to determine
whether the rezoning should be acted upon whether it is appropriate or not takes up the
second half of his motion. So is the Board just determining whether or not there are
significant circumstances?
Mr. Ruff said it could be phrased that way as well. Ms. Patrick mentioned her
comments about her difference of opinion as to whether there be a significant change
of circumstance that would warrant unchanged zoning and as he believes Mr.
Frederick's first part of the recommendation was that since the last rezoning request
and the last recommendation to the Planning Board there has not been a significant
change in circumstances.
Mr. Frederick said that wasn't the intent of his motion because now that he looks and
listens to Ms. Foster's motion it meets what he intended to say.
Ms. Foster said her reason for making this is that she is not comfortable with putting
forward that this could go to a "E-2" zoning. Right now it is at "D-1". Ms. Keene said
the intent of her motion is to simply . . .Ms. Foster said state that there was not enough.
. . Ms. Keene continued significant change for the Planning Board to review this again
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and Ms. Foster would like to end it there without any more discussion on whether it
should be "E-2" or anything else. Is that Ms. Foster's intent. Ms. Foster said yes.
Mr. Smith said his understanding and the reason he is supporting this is he does not
think that there should be a change in the zoning as it currently exists.
Mr. Ruff said it is a motion basically to deny the request. Ms. Keene said a motion to
deny the request. Mr. Ruff said in effect finding that there is no change in
circumstances they are required to change to the rezoning. Ms. Keene said they don't
want the "E-2" in there. Just say there has not been enough change to even review it
again.
Mr. Frederick said when he and Mr. Ruge supported the recommendation to "E-2" what
they were instructed by staff was that they could forward to the City Council a
recommendation that they look at a particular rezoning. Not that they were
recommending it be that, but that they are recommending that they take notice of that.
That is what the intent of the previous motion was. But they were indeed finding exactly
what Ms. Foster's motion stated, but they did two parts. They weren't making a
recommendation that the zoning become "E-2", they were recommending that the City
Council take notice that they had not changed their opinion from the previous request
for rezoning in 1999. That does not carry the strength of a recommendation that it be
"E-2" but that they consider the previous recommendation. It was never an intent to be
a recommendation. They did not feel they had the authority whether or not there was a
significant change or not, whether that gave them the authority to recommend a
rezoning but they could pass that along to City Council to look at.
General discussion ensued regarding the motion and the zoning of "E-2".
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Foster. . . Aye
Patrick. . .Ave Smith . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
Keene . .Ave
On a Roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 5; Nays: 0; carried; unanimously
MOTION PASSED.
Z-3-01 will go with the 5-0 vote and information to not recommend the rezoning.
Mr. Frederick said his next order of business is to announce when the next Zoning and
Ordinance Committee meeting was to take place. It was Ms. Foster, himself and Mr.
Ruge understanding that they would change it to Tuesday and now there is a problem
with that. He asked Ms .Stachowiak to address this.
Ms. Stachowiak said that there is a conflict with the Building Board of Appeals on the
same day. She was told by the Building Safety Office that those meeting frequently last
past 4:00, in fact, last month the meeting went until 6:OOpm. So, they suggested that it
would not be available at 4:00 immediately following there meeting. The only other time
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of the week that there is nothing in there at 4:00 is on Monday's. But one of the options
that was talked about was switching a member for the remainder of the year and
keeping the meetings on Wednesdays.
Mr. Frederick asked if there could be another location? Mr. Ruff said they would have
to check other offices where there are conference rooms available. Convenience might
not be quite the same and from the standpoint of getting into the meeting they could
check. They only have one conference room of sufficient size to handle those types of
meetings. There are other conference rooms though in City Hall.
Mr. Frederick said he knows that Mr. Ruge is planning to meet on Tuesday and Ms.
Foster still has the conflict if we meet in Wednesday so if they do decide to meet on
Wednesday someone will need to notify Mr. Ruge.
General discussion ensued regarding the next Zoning and Ordinance meeting.
The next Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting will be
Wednesday, October 10, 2001, at 4:00pm, 316 N. Capitol Ave.,
Department Conference Room.
2. Urban Development Committee - Mr. Smith, Chairman.
The next meeting is, Tuesday, September 25, 2001, at 4 p.m., 316
N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
The focus of this meeting will be the Master Plan.
3. Committee of the Whole - Mr. Smith, Chairman
a. PRD-3-01, Planned Residential Development, 23.49
acres at 3720 Aurelius Rd.
This was tabled in Committee of the Whole.
4. Executive Committee - none
Ms. Keene said on the part about the Committee Members. They are electing officers
tonight. With that perhaps the problem might be solved. Mr. Ruff said also at last
night's City Council meeting there was a recommendation by the Mayor for a new
Planning Board member. So, hopefully in the next couple of weeks, the Development
and Planning Committee can meet and make a recommendation with regard to this
person. If they do, the following Monday, this person would be approved and sworn in.
That does not mean they will be ready for a Zoning and Ordinance meeting but
hopefully by the second meeting of October there will be a member to help with some
of this jostling around. He believes the person is quite familiar with the Planning
Commission activities.
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C. Report from Planning Manager -
Last night at City Council the council adopted a resolution recommending
granting or approval of the preliminary plan for the BTS
Residential/Commercial Development with the conditions and comments
that were generated by the BTS Implementation Committee and so that is
very favorable and the Board should expect in a short time the application
for the PRD and possible a Special Land Use. They would first need to
prepare a site plan and submit that.
The City Council did recently approve some Act 285's that Planning Board
has taken action upon previously one of which he will mention, the MSU
Women's Varsity Crew Facility and they have a Committee of persons
and organizations and are developing those community programs. Girls
outreach program working through an existing young girl mentoring
program, boys programs, elementary programs, high school type
programs that will meet the criteria of competition and MHSAA and the
NCAA. So, they are progressing on that and he will try to let the Board
know further information on these programs. It is his understanding that
the Crew of Women's Varsity has is now up from 80 to 100 participants
and it is a significant program that is growing and fitting into that part from
the recreation stand point.
Mr. Smith said he would be curious to know if they are including the
YMCA in this since the one in the city is going to be moving into a sports
complex near there. Mr. Ruff said that is a good suggestion, he is not
sure but he can suggest that to Mr. Webster.
Ms. Patrick said she saw some of that on their television and there was
some concern about the long term needs that would be posed for this
facility on public park and one of the Council persons indicted that 10
years does seem a long time, but it is negotiable and there is no current
plan for this pack and when one is developed it would take 5-10 years to
develop both the plan and the dollars to implement that plan so at least 1
or 2 council people indicated that they felt that a ten year lease is still
relatively short term for them and the positives on it were keeping a varsity
team there.
Mr. Ruff said otherwise he is trying to do interviews and wrap up the
processes for both a secretary for the Planning office as well as a Senior
Planner. The process is almost complete for the Secretary, there is only
interviews to do there and advertising has taken place for the Senior
Planner position.
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D. Pending Items: Future action required
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a. Z-1-98, 1223 N.Turner St.,"H"Light Industrial District to"G-1" Business District
(Tabled February 11, 1998)
b. Z-5-98,401-407 E. Grand River,"F"Commercial District to"G-1"Business
District(Tabled June 10, 1998)
C. Z-8-2000,3901 S. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd., "F"Commercial to"H"Light
Industrial District(Tabled June 14,2000)
d. Z-15-2000, 301 W. Lenawee Street, Professional Office to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled January 17,2001)
e. P-1-2001,Tentative Preliminary Plat,Wexford Woods(Tabled June 13, May 9,
2001)
f. PRD-2-01,"Crystal Woods", Planned Residential Neighborhood(Tabled August
15, 2001)
g. SLU-3-01, Cavanaugh west of Aurelius(Tabled August 15,2001)
h. Z-11-01,3535 W. Mt. Hope,"F"Commercial, "J"Parking and"A"Residential to
"D-1" Professional Office(Tabled September 12,2001)
2. Urban Development Committee
a. Act-9-2000,201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj. Sign Over ROW (Tabled June 27,
2000)
C. Discussion of Comprehensive Planning Process.
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planning Board
a. Act-12-01, 5550 S. Pennsylvania- Market Fire Station for Salem (tabled July 3,
2001)
b. Act-13-01,4801 S. Cedar Street,Acquire for Fire Station (tabled July 3,2001).
8. NEW BUSINESS -
1. Election of Officers
Mr. Ruff said he would like to have nominations for the Chair of the
Planning Board for this coming year.
Ms. Keene made the motion; seconded by Mr. Smith to nominate Mr.
Frederick for Chair of the Planning Board.
On a Voice Vote; the motion passed unanimously.
Mr. Frederick said he would like to first say thank you very much and he
hopes he can do as well as Ms. Keene did this past year. He then
proceeded to ask for nominations for the position of Vice Chair.
Ms. Keene made the motion; seconded by Ms. Patrick to nominate Mr.
Smith as Vice Chair of the Planning Board.
On a Voice Vote; the motion passed unanimously.
Chair - Mr. Andrew Frederick
Vice Chair - Mr. Michael Smith
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Mr. Ruff said the next then is for the Board Member to call and tell Mr.
Frederick what their desire is for Committee assignments and at the next
meeting (October 2, 2001) make an appointment for Committee
Members. So, if Committee members would relay information as to
Committee desires he would make those appointments for the next
meeting.
Mr. Frederick gave everyone his phone number and asked Ms.
Stachowiak to contact Mr. Ruge and inform him of this. He also asked if
anyone would like to give this information to him tonight. There is the
Zoning Ordinance Committee and Urban Development Committee and
also the Board of Zoning Appeals. He has served on that for a long time
and has enjoyed it, but if there is someone else who has an interest he
certainly would not feel bad in giving it up and let someone else have the
benefit of meeting with the Zoning Board of Appeals and see the planning
process from a slightly different perspective. The Zoning Board of
Appeals, he forget exactly how it is referenced, but their decision is final
and can only be appealed to the Circuit Court, so when you make a
decision on the Zoning Board of Appeals there is something different to
consider because rather than the decision like the Board makes with a
recommendation to the City Council, when the Board of Zoning Appeals
makes a decision it is final. The applicant walks out with the decision in
hand and they can either accept or take it to a higher court. That does put
a little different slant to things and he did enjoy that slant. Certainly he
would encourage someone else to take over on that. Those are the three
appointments, the two Committees and that position. Also he has been
warned that the next meeting of the Board of Zoning Appeals has 13
cases.
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON - None
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Mr. Smith said he is happy to see that Drake's is gone.
Mr. Ruff said the Building Safety Office, Jack Nelson, Manager and the Staff did
a considerable amount of work in that area and received considerable support
from the administration and the City Council and they hope that they can get
further along in that because that property is available for redevelopment.
Mr. Smith also asked about the development going in on Mt. Hope by Lewton's
School, where they had the difficulty in them taking down the trees and that. He
sees that they are actually constructing buildings on that property now. What is
the status? He is assuming they came in with a site plan that was approved.
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Mr. Ruff said they met on site and came to an agreement on an additional
number of trees that would be used on the site to help create more of a canopy
than was proposed in the plan even to the argument of the landscape company
that thought some of the trees would be too close together. Also, they are
straightening out some lighting issues and they expect that with some additional
berming and the additional tree cover there should be a good setting. A wood lot
can not be replaced with the quantity of buildings and parking. They did reduce
the amount of asphalt surface in their final plan and pulled the parking lot away
from the street on Lewton so that it was away another 16 feet and put it much
further away than it was previously and gave more room to handle grades and
add trees. They had conifers and canopy trees. They are doubling the number
of trees that were on there originally. They did save some groupings of trees
that were, in his opinion, worth saving. There were a lot of larger trees that were
dead and there was occasional black cherry and groupings of other trees that
could be kept in areas and they tried to create more of those areas with new
plantings as well so they would have grouping of trees as well as some spread
out through the area. Hopefully it will help start filling it in, but it will take years to
do that. He told them he could either plant a lot more small trees or they could
spend the money on some larger significant trees if they did not want to plant
them so close together. He said they could always cut one out if the have too.
Ms. Foster said is the City Forester get involved with the plant selection. She
just had a major educational session with the City Forester and a lot of things
that she was not aware of as to the types of trees he knew.
Mr. Ruff said he can, but usually just works on the street trees. If he is asked to
do other things he will go out with them and talk about other varieties and other
issues with trees.
General discussion ensued regarding landscaping.
Ms. Patrick said she noticed at the bottom of her agenda they have a request to
call Louise Christian and so she asked if she is enjoying her retirement. Mr. Ruff
said he will make sure that Elissa is addressed there, there were a few problems
with the Agenda and we will make sure it is done correctly.
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS -
Mr. Frederick said at Jolly and Batterfield there is no house number. It is the
house on the SW corner of Jolly and Batterfield. Mr. Ruff said this is the house
that had all the cars in the front yard before. Mr. Frederick said still has. Mr.
Frederick said he has counted as many as 11 cars in there. The reason he
brought it up again was a concern was addressed to him again today by
someone who lives in that neighborhood. Mr. Ruff said he would check on the
status of that.
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12. ADJOURNMENT was at 9:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
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