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Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, March 16, 2004
1. OPENING SESSION '
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Ms. Cordill, Vice Chair.
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A. Roll call: Present: Frederick, Keene, Ruge, Cordill, McConnell.
B. Staff Attending: Stachowiak.
C. Excused absences: Foster.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to approve an excused
absence request from Ms. Foster for tonight's meeting. On a voice vote, the
motion carried unanimously (5-0).
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to approve the agenda.
On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (5-0).
3. COMMUNICATIONS — None.
4. HEARINGS — None.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (5 minutes each)
Mr. Ron Hatcher, resident of 1903 Lourdes Court, stated that he is a
representative of the Hamilton Condominium Association and that he has some
questions regarding SLU-1-2004, residential care facility on Aurelius Road. He
stated that the association did not have a lot of time to respond and have their
concerns addressed. He asked the Board to table SLU-1-2004 to allow the
association more time to interact and present their concerns.
Mr. Robert Mosher, representative of Community Mental Health - CEI,
stated that if the original plan had been submitted, it would have fallen during the
Christmas holiday and CMH-CEI did not want to do this. CMH-CEI is opposed to
tabling SLU-1-2004 and are proceeding with bids. CMH-CEI would like to move
on to other things that need to be done when they meet with the City Forester.
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He stated that CMH-CEI is opposed to the requirement of placing a fence in the
back yard. He does not object to prohibiting a chain link fence. Fences are only
installed when required by the program and while CMH-CEI currently plans to do
this, CMH may change the people who would be at the home or the residents
may age to the point where a fence would not be necessary. The main reason
for installing a fence was to make the neighbors feel better. He believes this is
discriminatory to the residents.
He stated that CMH-CEI agreed to the idea of the City Forester visiting the site
and putting in some trees to block the parking area and more of the property.
The property can hold a 12-unit family group home and CMH-CEI is asking for
one large home but it will not have nearly the number of people. The home will
be very low and aesthetic and it will be a one-story unit. If the cost of planting a
number of trees, depending on size and how many, and if it is for the benefit of
the Hamilton Condominium Association, then maybe the association should help
contribute if the residents are so concerned.
He noticed that the condominium north-south driveway had absolutely no trees or
buffer of any type for the neighbors. The condominium area was designed with
units having drive ways for front yards. He believes that CMH-CEI is not doing
anything at all that would harm the condominium property values or long term
view once new trees were able to grow on the property.
Mr. Micah Murrell, resident of 1907 Lourdes Court, stated that some of the
concerns brought up by Mr. Mosher are the exact reason the request should be
tabled. There are a lot of issues and concerns that Mr. Mosher just brought up
that he believed needed to be resolved. He stated that Mr. Mosher commented
about the condominium residents contributing towards the trees and the fence
and he believes that the tax dollars that mainly support this home would be a
pretty big contribution. The focus really needs to be on the 46 different homes
that would be affected by this request.
Ms. Patricia Nelson, resident of 1905 Lourdes Court, stated that she has two
letters from Real Estate brokers who have said that the condominium residents
will be affected in property values by this new facility. She stated that the fronts
of the condominiums are drive ways so the only living areas that the residents
have are in the back which views the trees. This area is the biggest selling point
of the condominium properties.
Ms. Foster inquired about Board members having questions for the applicant.
Mr. McConnell asked Mr. Mosher to step to the podium. Mr. McConnell inquired
about the concerns of the residents regarding the decreased property values. He
stated that there were letters of testimony from well regarded realtors that the
property values would decrease. He inquired about what research or data that
Mr. Mosher has to present to the contrary, such as a realtor or an appraiser who
is saying that this type of facility would not degrade or lower the property values
of the condominiums. Mr. Mosher stated that he did not have any information
with him and that at the previous meeting he did bring studies. He stated that
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there have been a few studies done by appraisers not just on one particular
property but on a number of properties and how it may have affected the property
values. Ms. Stachowiak stated that the study was updated in 1996 and was
included in the Planning Board packet.
Mr. McConnell stated that the study was from the Planning Department dated
October 1976, and Ms. Cordill stated that it was updated in 1996. Mr. Frederick
stated that the 1996 information was presented at the Zoning and Ordinance
Committee meeting and there was also information mailed to the Committee
members. He clarified that Mr. Mosher presented the information to the
Committee members not the Planning Office.
Ms. Cordill stated that she would like to make the report available at this time to
anyone who was interested in the audience. She stated that Mr. McConnell
mentioned that there were letters from real estate agents on what affect a project
may have. She was under the impression that the condominium residents
thought there would be mentally ill, not developmentally disabled, patients living
in the home. She stated that this could be a distinction and someone's
perception of a group home. She asked Mr. Mosher for clarification on what kind
of resident would be living at the home and how much freedom the residents
would have within and outside the facility. Mr. Mosher stated that CMH is
planning on bringing developmental disability people into the home, but because
CMH owns these homes for such long periods of time (some being 25 years) or
occupies them under a lease, CMH cannot guarantee, some time in the future,
what disabilities that the residents who are placed in the home may have. In the
letter from Ms. Mary Clissoiv, everyone placed in the home is screened by CMH
and no one is placed in a home that CMH would expect to cause harm to anyone
else. CMH keeps a very close watch over the residents who need it in these
types of facilities. There are some residents who can function better on their
own. He stated that this is why the neighbors were told that a fence would be
installed but CMH does not like to be required to install a fence. CMH makes
very determined efforts to try to make sure that the services and the facility at
any site are able to handle these types of residents.
Mr. McConnell stated that he was still not clear on the influence of halfway
houses and foster care facilities upon property values. He inquired about who
gathered the data: the Planning Department or if it was independently done. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that the Planning Department did the study and she was not
aware that it existed. She stated that Mr. Mosher brought it to the attention of the
Committee members. She stated that the Planning Department prepared the
document years ago because questions like these are frequently asked. She
stated that this study attempts to answer the questions so that every applicant
does not have to have appraisers do the studies. The question: Do residential
care facilities have a negative impact on neighborhoods? In conclusion, she
stated that according to the study, the facilities do not have a negative impact on
the neighborhoods. Mr. McConnell stated that his question to Mr. Mosher was:
Has he and his group done an independent study? Ms. Stachowiak stated they
have not done a study. Mr. McConnell stated that it was the Planning
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Department who put these studies together and Ms. Stachowiak stated that it
was Mr. Mosher who brought the study to the Committee's attention.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that the Board really needed to close the Public Comment
period and wait to discuss this further under the Zoning and Ordinance
Committee after the report is given.
Seeing no one wishing to address the Board, Ms. Cordill closed the public
comment period.
6. RECESS — None.
7. BUSINESS SESSION
A. Minutes for Approval — None.
B. Committee Reports
1. ZONING AND ORDINANCE COMMITTEE, Mr. Ruge, Chair
a. SLU-1-2004, Aurelius Rd., Special Land Use-Residential
Care Facility
This is a request by the Community Mental Health Authority
of Clinton, Eaton and Ingham Counties, for a special land
use permit to construct a residential care facility for up to 10
people, on a 1.8 acre site, located on the west side of
Aurelius Road, between 3918 Aurelius and Hamilton
Condominiums. The property is zoned "A" Residential
District which permits residential care facilities, with a special
land use permit, if approved by the Lansing City Council.
This is not a matter of rezoning.
Staff recommended approval of the SLU-1-2004, a
residential care facility for up to 10 people, with the following
conditions:
1. Capacity of the facility be limited to ten persons;
2. Operation of the adult foster care facility must meet all
federal, state, and local ordinances for the licensing of
adult foster care facilities;
3. The driveway be expanded to 22-feet to
accommodate 2-way traffic;
4. The applicant screens the parking lot from view of the
surrounding neighbors; and
5. Landscaping be planted along the Aurelius Road
frontage of the site.
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In Committee, the request was recommended for approval
with the following conditions:
1. Capacity of the facility be limited to ten persons;
2. Operation of the adult foster care facility must meet all
federal, state, and local ordinances for the licensing of
adult foster care facilities;
3. The driveway not be expanded to 22-feet, if possible;
4. The applicant screens the parking lot from view of the
surrounding neighbors;
5. Landscaping be planted along the Aurelius Road
frontage of the site;
6. Sidewalk be installed along Aurelius Road;
7. An aesthetically pleasing fence be constructed
around the backyard;
8. A tree survey be conducted with the City Forester;
9. Large trees that are worth preserving, as determined
by the City Forester, be identified and the drip lines
protected with a fence prior to any construction on the
site;
10. The location of the utility pole(s) near Aurelius Road
be reviewed with the Board of Water and Light;
11. All exterior lighting be shielded and directed
downward to prevent glare onto adjacent properties;
and
12. Evergreen trees be planted along the south side of
the site;
and the motion carried unanimously (3-0).
Mr. Ruge stated that he will stop here and not go into the
conditions listed. He does not want the people that are in
the condominium association to feel like the Board is giving
them the bum's rush and didn't give them a chance to review
the request and provide any further thoughts that the
residents would have on it. He believes that the Board can
discuss the request at the next meeting which is in 3 weeks
and do it expeditiously. He does not want the residents to
feel like the City was not listening to them.
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Mr. McConnell, to table SLU-1-2004,
Aurelius Rd., Special Land Use - Residential Care Facility.
Mr. Frederick stated that he understands Mr. Ruge's concern
and that he feels the same way. He stated that he is not
sure if the condominium association understands the
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process. He clarified that the Board's decision tonight is
going to be a recommendation to the City Council whether
the special land use be granted. It is not the final word.
There is still at least one Committee meeting that the
Board's recommendation will go to and that is the Committee
of City Council. He stated that City Council will hold a public
hearing and then will vote. City Council has the option to
accept or deny the Board's recommendation in full or accept
any or all of the conditions that the Board may have set on
the request. The Planning Board does not have the final
word. He stated that there is more than enough time for the
condominium association to make their objections and
concerns known to the City Council, who will ultimately make
the final decision anyway. He does not see any reason to
delay the request. He stated that one of the positive things
about the planning process in the City of Lansing is that it is
expedited and that it does not take up a lot of time and make
delays for the developers and others who are trying to get
things done. Often the Board receives applications like this
one that is fairly complex and expensive. Just as often, the
Board receives applications for simple things from ordinary
neighborhood residents (i.e. selling property and having a
minor problem that needs to be resolved to satisfying
financing). He stated that he cannot support a motion to
table the request because he believes that the condominium
association has had more than enough time to have their
concerns addressed.
Ms. Keene stated that normally there is not discussion on a
motion to table a request.
Mr. Frederick apologized for the discussion.
On a voice vote, there were: Ayes: 2; Nays: 3. The motion did not carry.
Mr. Ruge continued with the Zoning and Ordinance
Committee report.
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Mr. Frederick, to recommend approval of
SLU-1-2004, Aurelius Rd., Special Land Use-Residential Care Facility with the
following conditions: 1) Capacity of the facility be limited to ten persons; 2)
Operation of the adult foster care facility must meet all federal, state, and local
ordinances for the licensing of adult foster care facilities; 3) The driveway not be
expanded to 22-feet; 4) The applicant screens the parking lot from view of the
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surrounding neighbors; 5) Landscaping be planted along the Aurelius Road
frontage of the site; 6) Sidewalk be installed along Aurelius Road; 7) Any fences
that are constructed on the property be aesthetically pleasing (no chain link or
cyclone fences) and characteristic of a residential neighborhood; 8) A tree survey
be conducted with the City Forester; 9) Large trees that are worth preserving, as
determined by the City Forester, be identified and the drip lines protected with a
fence prior to any construction on the site; 10) The location of the utility pole(s)
near Aurelius Road be reviewed with the Board of Water and Light; 11) All
exterior lighting be shielded and directed downward to prevent glare onto
adjacent properties; and 12) Evergreen trees be planted along the south side of
the site.
Mr. McConnell stated that he was obviously not present at
the Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting. He stated
that he has a real problem with this request and he does not
understand why no one else on the Board does. He has
nothing against the mentally disabled or foster care homes.
His grandmother is in a home, and he has other relatives
who are mentally retarded and are in facilities. He has a
problem with, on a common sense basis, the Board
approving a request and relying on information that is almost
30 years old. He stated that it was information from 1976
that was updated in 1990. He has a real problem with the
Board relying on information that is almost 30 years old and
was updated in 1990, which is almost 15 years old. He
stated that it should be up to somebody to get updated
information as to the impact, whether negative or positive, on
the neighborhood and the condominiums. He stated that it
is ridiculous to approve the request based on this
information. He stated that if the City does not have the
information, then it should be up to the developer to put the
information together. He stated that there are 48
condominium owners and 2 of the top brokers in Lansing
saying that the development will negatively impact the
neighborhood. He stated that not to have more information
and just make a decision to him is ludicrous.
Ms. Cordill stated that there could be additional information
and that maybe the Planning Advisory Service would have
more current information on the affects of adult care
facilities in residential neighborhoods. Mr. McConnell asked
what would be so hard about contacting the Michigan
Association of Realtors or the Greater Lansing Association
of Realtors and requesting some updated information. Ms.
Cordill stated that this was another concern that she had
when she was reviewing the information. Mr. McConnell
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stated that to table the request for one meeting to obtain
more current information is not asking for too much. Ms.
Cordill stated that she saw the letters that Mr. McConnell
referred to. When she read the letters, she did not feel that
the people who provided the letters were given the full
picture. Mr. McConnell asked if the Board has been given
the full picture if they have to rely on this information. To
him, he has not been given the full picture, and he stated
that he is not going to make a decision voting aye or nay
when he has to rely on information that is 26 years old. Ms.
Cordill thanked Mr. McConnell for his input. She stated that
he has made himself clear on the matter and that the Board
knows where he is coming from. Ms. Stachowiak stated that
the Zoning Ordinance sets up 9 criteria which are to be used
to evaluate special land use permits. The Board has 9
criteria set up by the Ordinance that is to be used to evaluate
this request. Staff determined that it did comply with the
criteria and the Committee agreed with staff's decision. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that if Mr. McConnell disagreed with the
decision, then he could vote nay on the request. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that the City has never required the
developer to go out and pay for (nor did she know if it was
legal) a study to determine the impact on the neighbors just
because the perception is a negative impact on their
property. Ms. Stachowiak stated that she did not know what
information the realtors were given nor what they used to
make their determinations. Ms. Stachowiak stated that Mr.
McConnell was making her regret that she even passed out
the study. Mr. McConnell stated that was her business that
the information was passed out, and that the Board is relying
on this information. Ms. Stachowiak stated that the Board is
relying on the 9 criteria set up in the Zoning Ordinance. She
stated that the staff made the recommendation before they
knew the study existed. Mr. McConnell stated that she said
that the developer, Mr. Mosher, gave her the study. Ms.
Stachowiak continued and stated that when the Zoning
Ordinance Committee made its recommendation, they had
not seen the study and neither had staff. Ms. Cordill struck
the gavel to maintain order. Mr. Frederick stated that he was
happy to read the study and that regardless of the study's
age he believed it was meaningful. He had not read the
study and was not even aware of it when he met with the
Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting to evaluate the
full extent of what he believed his authority was and on
which he based his decision, which was what was in the
Zoning Ordinance. He stated that this issue did come up
and that the Committee's authority is limited. Maybe the City
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Council can take up the issue or maybe not. He does not
know City Council's authority. He stated that as nice as the
study was, he does not think that he has the authority to
make a decision based on whether this development is
going to affect property values one way or another, because
this is not a criteria that he has an authority to base his
decision on. He stated that the Committee went through the
criteria and discussed them at length. He reviewed the
criteria and visited the site. He did not see anything that
would allow him to vote against the request based on the
Zoning Ordinance criteria. He stated that he also visited
one of the applicant's other facilities located at Coulson
Court, and that it took him a couple of minutes to figure out
that it was even a facility. It fit into the neighborhood so well.
He stated that it was larger than the other houses and that it
was amongst the best houses on the entire length of
Coulson Court. When he saw this, the only thing that he
became absolutely sure of was that he would like to change
condition number 3 where it says "the driveway not be
expanded to 22 feet, if possible." He would like the words "if
possible" struck from the record. He stated that the
reason was a 22 foot driveway would detract from the
residential nature of the development. He sees no reason to
require a 22 foot driveway on a residential facility where it is
not required under any residential development. He realizes
that special land uses allow conditions and he stated that
there were a lot of meaningful conditions listed for this
request but he believes that all of them added to the
residential nature rather than detract from it. He does not
see where there would be any huge traffic issue that a 22
foot driveway is needed. What helped him to change his
mind was the facility that he looked at on Coulson Court has
a 12 foot driveway. When he was at this facility, there were
2 vehicles parked in the driveway. Clearly these vehicles
were there because they belonged to the staff. He stated
that the facility he visited looks so much like the plan that the
applicant submitted and that the only real difference is that
the driveway is not as long. He does not see any reason to
deny the request and he does not see anything that gives
him the authority to do anything except vote in favor of it. He
stated that something can be developed at this site and the
Zoning Ordinance says this is one of the things that can be
constructed there. He stated that the Committee put in quite
a few meaningful conditions and he urged the Board to
support the request.
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Ms. Stachowiak stated that she prepared the report and that
her name was on the public hearing notices that were
mailed. The notices went out the second week in February
and no one from Hamilton Condominium Association has
contacted her requesting any information whatsoever about
this development. It has been almost 6 weeks.
Ms. Cordill inquired about who sees the staff report and
when it is released to the public. Ms. Stachowiak stated that
Zoning and Ordinance Committee meets on Wednesday and
the full staff report is completed at least a week ahead of
time. In this case, it was done 2 weeks ahead of time. She
stated that the full staff report is available to anybody who
would like a copy of it and that it is a matter of public record.
The Planning office always provides the applicants with a
copy and anyone else who asks for it. The Planning Office
does not usually charge for the copy. Ms. Cordill stated that
the public does have an opportunity to see the staff report.
Ms. Stachowiak stated absolutely and that anything in the
case file is available to the public. She stated that nobody at
the Hamilton Condominium Association has asked for any
information regarding this case. She mentioned that Forrest
View Neighborhood Association, located on the east side of
Aurelius Road, asked for information. She stated that the
President of the association contacted her and wanted
copies of all the information. She provided the information
and answered their questions. She stated that if the Board
will notice, no one from the Forest View Association has
been here. If Hamilton Condominium Association had done
this, it would have given the City an opportunity to respond
to their concerns. Ms. Stachowiak stated that she did not
know what information the realtors had but they did not
receive anything from her. Ms. Cordill stated that Ms.
Stachowiak was the contact person for this case. Mr.
McConnell stated that when the 48 individuals signed this
petition and the 2 letters from the realtors arrived at the
Planning Office, he asked if Ms. Stachowiak had contacted
any of the people. Ms. Stachowiak stated that she did not
and that she does not do that. Mr. Frederick stated that it
would not be proper protocol.
Ms. Keene inquired about the number of square feet of the
facility. Ms. Stachowiak stated that it was listed in the staff
report as 5,333 square feet for a single story facility.
Ms. Keene inquired about where on the property the building
would be located. Ms. Stachowiak referred to the map.
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Ms. Keene inquired about approximately how many feet the
new facility would be from the side property line of the
condominiums. Ms. Stachowiak stated it would be
approximately 60 feet from the side of the building to
Hamilton condominium side property line.
Ms. Cordill inquired about the required side yard for the
facility. Ms. Stachowiak stated that the required side yard is
10 feet. Ms. Cordill stated that the applicant has exceeded
the side yard requirement.
Ms. Cordill inquired if there would be any signage associated
with the facility or if it would be just an address. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that it would be just an address at this
point and that the applicant would not be allowed any ground
signage for the building. She stated that the applicant would
be allowed a wall sign and that it would have to be a very
small sign.
Ms. Cordill asked Mr. Mosher to address the question. Mr.
Mosher stated that do not put signs on the homes.
Mr. Frederick stated that the facility located on Coulson
Court looked so much like a residence that he had to stop
and look real hard to figure out that he was looking at the
facility because it looked so much like a home. The only
reason that he could tell was that the facility was larger than
the rest of the properties. He stated that the facility looked
just like a residence. He walked this piece of property and
was challenged by neighbors while doing it. He stated that
the facility was large enough that he does not believe that
this would really be noticeable to anyone living in this area.
He referred to the diagram. He stated that there are some
lots marked off to the north of this property. He found this to
be puzzling because they are land-locked. When he looked
at the lots, he found that the lots are owned by land owners
along the street to the north (Rex Street). He stated that
when one gets to the north and west edges of the property,
the houses are a long ways away. He believes that no one
will notice that this facility is here, and if it was noticed, he
does not believe that it will be a problem. He stated that this
would be a good addition to the neighborhood.
Ms. Cordill inquired about a friendly amendment to the
driveway. Mr. Frederick recommended the friendly
amendment and Mr. Ruge accepted it.
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Mr. Ruge stated that he would like to have condition number
7 removed because he believes that CMH can determine
whether or not a fence is needed. Mr. Frederick stated that
he would accept it if the condition would read, that "if a fence
is constructed, that it be of an aesthetic nature." This would
give the applicant the ability to decide whether or not a fence
is needed. Ms. Cordill inquired about aesthetically pleasing
as in a wood fence or a wrought iron fence and if the Board
should be specific. Mr. Frederick stated that he brought up
at the Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting that there
is an office and treatment facility located on Jolly Road, west
of Pennsylvania Avenue, and that there is a large yard/open
area in the back. He stated that the applicant constructed a
green chain link fence. He stated that green is not a good
color and chain link is not aesthetically pleasing. He made
a recommendation to change aesthetically pleasing to "the
type of fence that would be residentially aesthetically
pleasing" or the kind of fence that could be found in a
residential neighborhood. He stated no chain link or cyclone
fences. He does not want to go to the length of making a list
of fences that could not be installed. He felt that this would
limit the responsibility and authority that CMH would have to
make on their own. He does not want to see something that
would he would not want to look at if he were to look out his
back window. Mr. Stachowiak stated that the condition
would read: "if a fence is to be constructed that it be the
type that would normally be found in a residential setting,
specifically that no chain link or cyclone fences be
permitted." Mr. Ruge accepted the friendly amendment.
Ms. Keene stated that with adverse property value, she is
troubled with that whole concept. She has seen so many
projects where something is being constructed and the first
thing that the neighbors want to say is that this would have a
negative impact on the property value. Historically, people
jump to this conclusion. CMH tends to take real good care
of their properties and she does not see how this would have
an adverse impact on the property values. The other thing
that concerns her is that perhaps some of the residents did
purchase the condominiums because they like the idea of
having a forest in their back yard. The residents cannot
control the land because they do not own the property, and if
they want to continue to see a forest in their back yard then
they should have purchased this property. To her, this is not
a good enough reason to deny the request when it would be
an asset to the area. The City does need residential-type
facilities for CMH clients. She is in support of the request.
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She stated that City Council would decide and that the Board
is just making recommendations.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Keene. . . Ave
Ruge. . . Ave Cordill. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
McConnell . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Nay
On a roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 4; Nays: 1; carried.
APPROVED.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that the motion carried. It will go to City Council and be
scheduled for a public hearing some time in April.
Mr. Frederick made a suggestion that the Hamilton Condominium Association be
advised of the date of the public hearing. Ms. Stachowiak stated that post cards will be
sent out to everyone who received them initially.
b. LS-2-2004, 909 Cleveland & 1215 E. Oakland
This is a request by William & Joyce Snider. The applicant
is proposing to split off the west 43 feet of the property at
909 Cleveland and combine it with the property at 1215 E.
Oakland, resulting in the following legal descriptions:
909 Cleveland: The east 89 feet of Lot 10, Block 2, Plat of
Rouse's Subdivision of Lot 13 of Seymour Subdivision, City
of Lansing, Ingham County, Michigan.
1215 E. Oakland. The west 42 feet of Lot 11 & the west 43
feet of Lot 10, Block 2, Rouse's Subdivision of Lot 13 of
Seymour Subdivision, City of Lansing, Ingham County,
Michigan.
Section 1236.07(c) of the Zoning Ordinance requires a
minimum lot depth of 100 feet. If approved, the property at
909 Cleveland would have a lot depth of 89 feet. Section
1236.07(d) of the Zoning Ordinance allows a maximum width
to depth ratio of 1 to 2.5 for residential lots. If approved, the
property at 1215 E. Oakland would have a width to depth
ratio of 1 to 2.96. Therefore, variances from the design
requirements of the subdivision regulations are requested.
Staff recommended approval of LS-2-2004, 909 Cleveland &
1215 E. Oakland
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In Committee, the request was recommended for approval
and the motion carried unanimously (3-0).
Mr. Frederick stated that there appears to be a practical
difficulty in that this is an old part of the City and the property
lines were drawn a long time ago. He believes that there is
nothing that could be done in any other way to make the
properties meet the required width to depth ratio.
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Mr. Frederick, to recommend approval of
LS-2-2004, 909 Cleveland & 1215 E. Oakland.
Frederick . . Ave Keene. . . Ave
Ruge. . . Ave Cordill. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
McConnell . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ... . Ave
On a roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 5; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED.
Next meeting, Wednesday, April 14, 2004 at 4 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Avenue, Department Conference Room
2. URBAN DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, Mr. McConnell, Chair
Next meeting, Tuesday, March 23, 2004, at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
3. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE - None.
4. EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE - None.
C. Report from Planning Manager
Ms. Stachowiak stated that City Council did approve Z-15-2003. She will
keep the Board informed from this point on as to what happens with the
cases.
D. Pending Items: Future action required
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a. Z-1-1998, 1223 N.Turner St.,"H"Light Industrial District to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled February 11, 1998)
b. SLU-3-2002, 2710 N. Grand River Ave., Church in the"F"Commercial District&
"J"Parking District(Tabled May 15, 2002)
2. Urban Development Committee
a. Act-9-2000,201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj. Sign Over ROW (Tabled
June 27,2000)
b. Capital Improvements Program (CIP), (Tabled March 25,2003)
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C. Master Plan Project
d. Act-1-2003, SE Corner Michigan&Washington, Lot 3, Block 111, Orig Plat,
Vacate Alley(part)(Tabled on April 29, 2003)
e. Act-14-2003, Conveyance of Bancroft Ct.Alley(Tabled on November 25,2003)
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planning Board
5. Board Member Code Enforcement Notification Reports
a. Teen Challenge-wood privacy fence(May 20, 2003)
b. Dollar Store-Willow Street&MLK Blvd.-landscaping &buffering (May 20,
2003)
C. Grovenburg property-dumpster in ROW (July 1,2003)
d. 4831 Eastlawn Drive-huge garage(August 19,2003)
e. 2714 W.Jolly Road-church with large statue in front yard (January 20,2004)
f. Jolly Road-tree trimming business operated from a home (January 20,2004)
Ms. Stachowiak stated that the "weird vehicle" on E. Grand River has
been determined not to be in violation and has been dropped from the list.
Mr. McConnell commented that Ms. Stachowiak has sent the email to Ms.
Fuller asking about some of the issues the Board has presented. He
stated that the Board is still not getting answers (i.e. church on Jolly
Road). Ms. Stachowiak stated that the Board was given an update at the
last meeting regarding the church on Jolly Road. She stated that she sent
a letter to the church given them 30 days to take down the sign and cease
all church services. She cannot make the church remove the Budda
statue but she can have the church take down the sign and stop the
church services. She stated that the church has not complied with her
letter and that the home is being monitored. Mr. McConnell stated that he
would like a copy of the letter and asked if it could be brought to the next
meeting.
Mr. McConnell inquired about the tree trimming business on Jolly Road.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that she has not received an update from the Code
Compliance Office. However, she stated that she did receive updates on
Super Wheel Auto Sales and Muffler Man, and she passed them out at the
last meeting. She did update the Board regarding the church and the
weird truck. She stated that there are a few left. Mr. McConnell stated
that with the Muffler Man issue Ms. Stachowiak had said that they were in
violation. Ms. Stachowiak stated that at the last meeting a Code
Compliance Officer did view the site and that the person was out of town.
She stated that the person did contact the Code Compliance Office and
was informed of the City's regulations and if they want to pursue selling
vehicles. Ms. Stachowiak also stated that Muffler Man is zoned for selling
just cars but they have to install the required improvements which is only
landscaping. Ms. Stachowiak did provide Muffler Man with the
landscaping requirements and the Code Compliance Officer did give them
30 days to respond with a plan or to be rid of all the cars on the site. Mr.
McConnell inquired about this notice being telephoned or in written
documentation. Ms. Stachowiak stated that Dave Vincent visited with the
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owner in person and then he called Ms. Stachowiak to get the
requirements. Mr. McConnell asked if a letter was sent by Ms.
Stachowiak. She stated that she has not sent Muffler Man any letters.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that she faxed Muffler Man the requirements.
8. NEW BUSINESS — None.
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON — None.
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Ms. Cordill requested an excused absence from the next meeting, April 6.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Mr. Ruge to approve an excused
absence request from Ms. Cordill for the April 6th meeting. On a voice vote, the
motion carried unanimously (5-0).
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS
Mr. Ruge stated that 201 Jones Street, a corner lot, has a 6 foot wooden fence
along the one side up against the sidewalk.
Mr. Ruge stated that 1340 Eureka Street has trash and a junk car in the
driveway.
Mr. Ruge stated that 200 Clifford Street has 2 junk cars.
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 8:07 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
PB Minutes.031604.doc
Draft to Clerk March 22,2004
Approved 2004
To Clerk 2004
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, March 16, 2004
1. OPENING SESSION
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Ms. Cordill, Vice Chair.
A. Roll call: Present: Frederick, Keene, Ruge, Cordill, McConnell.
B. Staff Attending: Stachowiak, Rieske, Wynant.
C. Excused absences: Foster.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to approve an excused
absence request from Ms. Foster for tonight's meeting. On a voice vote, the
motion carried unanimously (5-0).
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to approve the agenda.
On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (5-0).
3. COMMUNICATIONS — None.
4. HEARINGS — None.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (5 minutes each)
Mr. Ron Hatcher, resident of 1903 Lourdes Court, stated that he is a
representative of the Hamilton Condominium Association and that he has some
questions regarding SLU-1-2004, residential care facility on Aurelius Road. He
stated that the association did not have a lot of time to respond and have their
concerns addressed. He asked the Board to table SLU-1-2004 to allow the
association more time to interact and present their concerns.
Mr. Robert Mosher, representative of Community Mental Health - CEI,
stated that if the original plan had been submitted, it would have fallen during the
Christmas holiday and CMH-CEI did not want to do this. CMH-CEI is opposed to
tabling SLU-1-2004 and are proceeding with bids. CMH-CEI would like to move
on to other things that need to be done when they meet with the City Forester.
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He stated that CMH-CEI is opposed with the requirement to place a fence in the
back yard and that he does not object to it being required if there is not going to
be chain link fence. Fences are only installed when required by the program and
while CMH-CEI currently plans to do this, CMH may change the people who
would be at the home or the residents may age to the point where a fence would
not be necessary or would need to replace one in the future. The main reason
for installing a fence was to make the neighbors feel better. He believes this is
discriminatory for the residents.
He stated that CMH-CEI agreed to the idea of the City Forester visit the site and
put in some trees to block the parking area and more of the property. CMH-CEI
is concerned with this. The property can hold a 12-unit family group and CMH-
CEI is asking for one large home but it will not have nearly the number of people.
The home will be very low and asthetic and it will be a one-story unit. If the cost
of planting a number of trees, depending on size and how many, and if it is for
the benefit of the Hamilton Condominium Association, then maybe the
association should help contribute if the residents are so concerned.
He noticed that the condominium north-south driveway had absolutely no trees or
buffer of any type for the neighbors. The condominium area was designed with
units having drive ways for front yards. He believes that CMH-CEI is not doing
anything at all that would harm the condominium property values or long term
view once new trees were able to grow on the property.
Mr. Micah Murrell, resident of 1907 Lourdes Court, stated that some of the
concerns brought up by Mr. Mosher are the exact reason the request should be
tabled. There are a lot of issues and concerns that Mr. Mosher just brought up
that he believed needed to be resolved. Some of the facts regarding the
residents being prejudiced towards the members who are coming in here has
nothing to do with this request. He stated that Mr. Mosher commented about the
condominium residents contributing towards the trees and the fence and he
believes that the tax dollars that mainly support this home would be a pretty big
contribution. The focus really needs to be on the 46 different homes that would
be affected by this request.
Ms. Patricia Nelson, resident of 1905 Lourdes Court, stated that she has two
letters from Real Estate brokers who have said that the condominium residents
will be affected in property values by this new facility. She stated that the fronts
of the condominiums are drive ways so the only living areas that the residents
have are in the back which views the trees. This area is the biggest selling point
of the condominium properties.
Ms. Foster inquired about Board members having questions for the applicant.
Mr. McConnell asked Mr. Mosher to step to the podium. Mr. McConnell inquired
about the concerns of the residents regarding the decreased property values. He
stated that there were letters of testimony from well regarded realtors that the
property values would decrease. He inquired about what research or data that
Mr. Mosher has to present to the contrary. Mr. McConnell stated that a realtor
and appraiser who are saying that this type of facility would not dedigrate or
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lower the property values of the condominiums. Mr. Mosher stated that he did
not have any information with him and that at the previous meeting he did bring
studies. He stated that there have been a few studies done by appraisers not
just on one particular property but on a number of properties and how it may
have affected the property values. Ms. Stachowiak stated that the study was
updated in 1996 and was included in the Planning Board packet.
Mr. McConnell stated that the study was from the Planning Department dated
October 1976, and Ms. Cordill stated that it was updated in 1996. Mr. Frederick
stated that the 1996 information was presented at the Zoning and Ordinance
Committee meeting and there was also information mailed to the Committee
members. He clarified that Mr. Mosher presented the information to the
Committee members not the Planning Office.
Ms. Cordill stated that she would like to make the report available at this time to
anyone who was interested in the audience. She stated that Mr. McConnell
mentioned that there were letters from real estate agents on what affect a project
may have. She was under the impression that the condominium residents
thought there would be mentally ill, not developmentally disabled, patients living
in the home. She stated that this could be a distinction and someone's
perception of a group home. She asked Mr. Mosher for clarification on what kind
of resident would be living at the home and how much freedom the residents
would have within and outside the facility. Mr. Mosher stated that while CMH is
planning on bringing development disability people into the home, but because
CMH owns these homes for such long periods of time (some being 25 years) or
occupied them under a lease, CMH cannot guarantee some time in the future
that the residents who are placed in the home what their disabilities may or may
not be. In the letter from Ms. Mary Clissoiv, everyone place in the home is
screened by CMH and no one is place in a home that CMH would expect to
cause harm to anyone else. CMH keeps a very close watch over the residents
who need it in these types of facilities. There are some residents who can
function better on their own. He stated that this is why the neighbors were told
that a fence would be installed but CMH does not like to be required to install a
fence. CMH makes very determined efforts to try to make sure that the services
and the facility at any site are able to handle these types of residents.
Mr. McConnell stated that he was still not clear on the influence of halfway
houses and foster care facilities upon property values. He inquired about who
gathered the data: the Planning Department or if it was independently done. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that the Planning Department did the study and she was not
aware that it existed. She stated that Mr. Mosher brought it to the attention of the
Committee members. She stated that the Planning Department prepared the
document years ago because questions like these are frequently asked. She
stated that this study attempts to answer the questions so that every applicant
does not have to have appraisers do the studies. The question: Do residential
care facilities have a negative impact on neighborhoods? In conclusion, she
stated that according to the study, the facilities do not have a negative impact on
the neighborhoods. Mr. McConnell stated that his question to Mr. Mosher was:
Has he and his group done an independent study? Ms. Stachowiak stated they
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have not done a study. Mr. McConnell stated that it was the Planning
Department who put these studies together and Ms. Stachowiak stated that it
was Mr. Mosher who brought the study to the Committee's attention.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that the Board really needed to close the Public Comment
period and wait to discuss this further under the Zoning and Ordinance
Committee after the report is given.
Seeing no one wishing to address the Board, Ms. Cordill closed the public
comment period.
6. RECESS — None.
7. BUSINESS SESSION
A. Minutes for Approval — None.
B. Committee Reports
1. ZONING AND ORDINANCE COMMITTEE, Mr. Ruge, Chair
a. SLU-1-2004, Aurelius Rd., Special Land Use-Residential
Care Facility
This is a request by the Community Mental Health Authority
of Clinton, Eaton and Ingham Counties, for a special land
use permit to construct a residential care facility for up to 10
people, on a 1.8 acre site, located on the west side of
Aurelius Road, between 3918 Aurelius and Hamilton
Condominiums. The property is zoned "A" Residential
District which permits residential care facilities, with a special
land use permit, if approved by the Lansing City Council.
This is not a matter of rezoning.
Staff recommended approval of the SLU-1-2004, a
residential care facility for up to 10 people, with the following
conditions:
1. Capacity of the facility be limited to ten persons;
2. Operation of the adult foster care facility must meet all
federal, state, and local ordinances for the licensing of
adult foster care facilities;
3. The driveway be expanded to 22-feet to
accommodate 2-way traffic;
4. The applicant screens the parking lot from view of the
surrounding neighbors; and
5. Landscaping be planted along the Aurelius Road
frontage of the site.
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In Committee, the request was recommended for approval
with the following conditions:
1. Capacity of the facility be limited to ten persons;
2. Operation of the adult foster care facility must meet all
federal, state, and local ordinances for the licensing of
adult foster care facilities;
3. The driveway not be expanded to 22-feet, if possible;
4. The applicant screens the parking lot from view of the
surrounding neighbors;
5. Landscaping be planted along the Aurelius Road
frontage of the site;
6. Sidewalk be installed along Aurelius Road;
7. An aesthetically pleasing fence be constructed
around the backyard;
8. A tree survey be conducted with the City Forester;
9. Large trees that are worth preserving, as determined
by the City Forester, be identified and the drip lines
protected with a fence prior to any construction on the
site;
10. The location of the utility pole(s) near Aurelius Road
be reviewed with the Board of Water and Light;
11. All exterior lighting be shielded and directed
downward to prevent glare onto adjacent properties;
and
12. Evergreen trees be planted along the south side of
the site;
and the motion carried unanimously (3-0).
Mr. Ruge stated that he will stop here and not go into the
conditions listed. He would like to discuss this request for
the rest of folks point is. He does not want the people that
are in the condominium association to feel like the Board is
giving them the bum's rush and didn't give them a chance to
review the request and provide any further thoughts that the
residents would have on it. He believes that the Board can
discuss the request at the next meeting which is in 3 weeks
and do it expeditiously. He does not want the residents to
feel like the City was not listening to them.
Mr. Frederick stated that he understands Mr. Ruge's concern
and that he feels the same way. He stated that he is not
sure if the condominium association understands the
process. He clarified that the Board's decision tonight is
going to be a recommendation to the City Council whether
the special land use be granted. It is not the final word.
There is still at least one Committee meeting that the
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Board's recommendation will go to and that is the Committee
of City Council. He stated that City Council will hold a public
hearing and then will vote. City Council has the option to
accept, deny or the Board's recommendation in full or accept
any or all of the conditions that the Board may have set on
the request. The Planning Board does not have the final
word. He stated that there is more than enough time for the
condominium association to make their objections and
concerns known to the City Council, who will ultimately make
the final decision anyway. He does not see any reason to
delay the request. He stated that one of the positive things
about the planning process in the City of Lansing is that it is
expedited and that it does not take up a lot of time and make
delays for the developers and others who are trying to get
things done. Often the Board receives applications like this
one that is fairly complex and expensive. Just as often, the
Board receives applications for simple things from ordinary
neighborhood residents (i.e. selling property and having a
minor problem that needs to be resolved to satisfying
financing). He stated that he cannot support a motion to
table the request because he believes that the condominium
association has had more than enough time to have their
concerns addressed.
Ms. Keene stated that normally there is not discussion on a
motion to table a request.
Mr. Frederick apologized for the discussion.
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Mr. McConnell, to table SLU-1-2004, Aurelius
Rd., Special Land Use - Residential Care Facility. On a voice vote, there were:
Ayes: 2; Nays: 3. The motion did not carry.
Mr. Ruge continued with the Zoning and Ordinance
Committee report and listed the conditions.
Mr. McConnell stated that he was obviously not present at
the Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting. He stated
that he has a real problem with this request and he does not
understand why no one else on the Board does. He has
nothing against the mentally disabled or foster care homes.
His grandmother is in a home, and he has other relatives
who are mentally retarded and are in facilities. He has a
problem with, on a common sense basis, the Board
approving a request and relying on information that is almost
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30 years old. He stated that it was information from 1976
that was updated in 1990. Ms. Stachowiak stated that it is
not up to the City to...... she was interrupted by Mr.
McConnell. He stated that he was talking. He has a real
problem with the Board relying on information that is almost
30 years old and was updated in 1990, which is almost 15
years old. He stated that it should be up to somebody to get
updated information as to the impact, whether negative or
positive, on the neighborhood and the condominiums. He
stated that it is ridiculous to approve the request based on
this information. He stated that if the City does not have the
information, then it should be up to the developer to put the
information together. He stated that there are 48
condominium owners and 2 of the top brokers in Lansing
saying that the development will negatively impact the
neighborhood. He stated that not to have more information
and just make a decision to him is ludicrous.
Ms. Cordill stated that there could be additional information
and that maybe the Planning and Advisory Service would
have more current information on the affects of adult care
facilities in residential neighborhoods. Mr. McConnell asked
what would be so hard about contacting the Michigan
Association of Realtors or the Greater Lansing Association
of Realtors and requesting some updated information. Ms.
Cordill stated that this was another concern that she had
when she was reviewing the information. Mr. McConnell
interrupted Ms. Cordill and stated that it would only take 5
minutes for the Lansing Board of Realtors to give an analysis
on if there was an impact over the last 26 years. He stated
that to table the request for one meeting to obtain more
current information is not asking for too much. Ms. Cordill
stated that she saw the letters that Mr. McConnell referred
to. When she read the letters, she was under the impression
that maybe other Board members did not know very about
the proposal and were relying on people expressing
concerns about a development in their "backyard." She did
not feel that the people who provided the letters were given
the full picture. Mr. McConnell asked if the Board has been
given the full picture if they have to rely on this information.
To him, he has not been given the full picture, and he stated
that he is not going to make a decision voting aye or nay
when he has to rely on information that is 26 years old. Ms.
Cordill thanked Mr. McConnell for his input. She stated that
he has made himself clear on the matter and that the Board
knows where he is coming from. Ms. Stachowiak stated that
the Zoning Ordinance sets up 9 criteria which are to be used
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES March 16, 2004 Page 8
to evaluate special land use permits. The Board has 9
criteria set up by the Ordinance that is to be used to evaluate
this request. Staff determined that it did comply with the
criteria and the Committee agreed with staff's decision. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that if Mr. McConnell disagreed with the
decision, then he could vote nay on the request. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that the City has never required the
developer to go out and pay for (nor did she know if it was
legal) a study to determine the impact on the neighbors just
because the perception is a negative impact on their
property. Ms. Stachowiak stated that she did not know what
information the realtors were given nor what they used to
make their determinations. Ms. Stachowiak stated that Mr.
McConnell was making her regret that she even passed out
the study. Mr. McConnell stated that was her business that
the information was passed out, and that the Board is relying
on this information. Ms. Stachowiak stated not necessarily
and that the Board is relying on the 9 criteria set up in the
Zoning Ordinance. She stated that the staff made the
recommendation before they knew the study existed. Mr.
McConnell interrupted Ms. Stachowiak, and stated that she
said that the developer, Mr. Mosher, gave her the study. Ms.
Stachowiak continued and stated that when the Zoning
Ordinance Committee made its recommendation, they had
not seen the study and neither had staff. Ms. Cordill struck
the gavel to maintain order. Mr. Frederick stated that he was
happy to read the study and that regardless of the study's
age he believed it was meaningful. He had not read the
study and was not even aware of it when he met with the
Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting to evaluate the
full extent of what he believed his authority was on which he
based his decision, which was what was in the Zoning and
Ordinance code. He stated that this issue did come up and
that the Committee's authority is limited. Maybe the City
Council can take up the issue or maybe not. He does not
know City Council's authority. He stated that as nice as the
study was, he does not think that he has the authority to
make a decision based on whether this development is
going to affect property values one way or another, because
this is not a criteria that he has an authority to base his
decision on. He stated that the Committee went through the
criteria and discussed them at length. He reviewed the
criteria and visited the site. He did not see anything that
would allow him to vote against the request based on the
Zoning and Ordinance criteria. He stated that he also visited
one of the applicant's other facilities located at Coulson
Court, and that it took him a couple of minutes to figure out
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that it was even a facility. It fit into the neighborhood so well.
He stated that it was larger than the other houses and that it
was amongst the best houses on the entire length of
Coulson Court. When he saw this, the only thing that he
became absolutely sure of what that he would like to change
condition number 3 where it says "the driveway not be
expanded to 22 feet, if possible." He would like the words "if
possible" be struck from the record. He stated that the
reason was a 22 foot driveway would detract from the
residential nature of the development. He sees no reason to
require a 22 foot driveway on a residential facility where it is
not required under any residential development. He realizes
that special land uses allow conditions and he stated that
there were a lot of meaningful conditions listed for this
request but he believes that all of them added to the
residential nature than detract from it. He does not see
where there would be any huge traffic issue that a 22 foot
driveway is needed. What helped him to change his mind
was the facility that he looked at on Coulson Court has a 12
foot driveway. When he was at this facility, there were 2
vehicles parked in the driveway. Clearly these vehicles were
there because they belonged to the staff. He stated that the
facility he visited looks so much like the plan that the
applicant submitted and that the only real difference is that
the driveway is not as long. He does not see any reason to
deny the request and he does not see anything that gives
him the authority to do anything except vote in favor of it. He
stated that something can be developed at this site and the
Zoning Ordinance says this is one of the things that can be
constructed there. He stated that the Committee put in quite
a few meaningful conditions and he urged the Board to
support the request.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that she prepared the report and that
her name was on the public hearing notices that were
mailed. The notices went out the second week in February
and no one from Hamilton Condominium Association has
contacted her requesting any information whatsoever about
this development. It has been almost 6 weeks.
Ms. Cordill inquired about who sees the staff report and
when it is released to the public. Ms. Stachowiak stated that
Zoning and Ordinance Committee meets on Wednesday and
the full staff report is completed at least a week ahead of
time. In this case, it was done 2 weeks ahead of time. She
stated that the full staff report is available to anybody who
would like a copy of it and that it is a matter of public record.
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The Planning office always provides the applicants with a
copy and anyone else who asks for it. The Planning Office
does not usually charge for the copy. Ms. Cordill stated that
the public does have an opportunity to see the staff report
and recommended conditions. Ms. Stachowiak stated
absolutely. Anything in the case file is available to the
public. She stated that nobody at the Hamilton
Condominium Association has asked for any information
regarding this case. She mentioned that Forrest View
Neighborhood Association, located on the east side of Jolly
Road, asked for information. She stated that the President
of the association contacted her and wanted copies of all the
information. She provided the information and answered
their questions. She stated that if the Board will notice, no
one from the Hamilton Condominium Association has been
here. It would have given the City an opportunity to respond
to their concerns. Ms. Stachowiak stated that she did not
know what information the realtors had but they did not
receive anything from her. Ms. Cordill stated that Ms.
Stachowiak was the contact person for this case. Mr.
McConnell stated that when the 48 individuals signed this
petition and the 2 letters from the realtors arrived at the
Planning Office, he asked if Ms. Stachowiak had contacted
any of the people. Ms. Stachowiak stated that she did not
and that she does not do that. Mr. Frederick stated that it
would not be proper (protocol ????). Ms. Cordill stated one
more question quickly for Mr. McConnell. Mr. McConnell
inquired about Ms. Stachowiak stated that the staff report
has been done and would you like to see a copy of the
recommendations. He stated that since there are obviously
some issues, 48 who signed the petition and 2 letters of
concern, here is the staff report, mail a copy to them, and
would you like to see what was recommended. He asked
her if that would not be appropriate. Ms. Stachowiak stated
that normally she does not do this, and that at the Zoning
and Ordinance Committee meeting Jeff is the President of
the association. She stated that she gave Jeff a copy of the
completed staff report.
Ms. Keene inquired about the number of square feet of the
facility. Ms. Stachowiak stated that it was listed in the staff
report as 5,333 square feet for a single story facility.
Ms. Keene inquired about where on the property the building
would be located. Ms. Stachowiak referred to the map.
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Ms. Keene inquired about approximately how many feet the
new facility would be from the side property line of the
condominiums. Ms. Stachowiak stated it would be
approximately 60 feet from the side of the building to
Hamilton condominium side property line.
Ms. Cordill inquired about the required side yard for the
facility. Ms. Stachowiak stated that the required side yard is
10 feet. Ms. Cordill stated that the applicant has exceeded
the side yard requirement.
Ms. Cordill inquired if there would be any signage associated
with the facility or if it would be just an address. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that it would be just an address at this
point and that the applicant would not be allowed any ground
signage for the building. She stated that the applicant would
be allowed a wall sign and that it would have to be a very
small sign.
Ms. Cordill asked Mr. Mosher to address the question. Mr.
Mosher stated that do not put signs on the homes.
Mr. Frederick stated that the facility located on Coulson
Court looked so much like a residence that he had to stop
and look real hard to figure out that he was looking at the
facility because it looked so much like a home. The only
reason that he could tell was that the facility was larger than
the rest of the properties. He stated that the facility looked
just like a residence. He walked this piece of property and
was challenged by neighbors while doing it. He stated that
the facility was large enough that he does not believe that
this would really be noticeable to anyone living in this area.
He referred to the diagram. He stated that there are some
lots marked off to the north of this property. He found this to
be puzzling because they are land-locked. When he looked
at the lots, he found that the lots are owned by land owners
along the street to the north (Rex Street). He stated that
when one gets to the north and west edges of the property,
the houses are a long ways away. He believes that no one
will notice that this facility is here, and if it was noticed, he
does not believe that it will be a problem. He stated that this
would be a good addition to the neighborhood.
Ms. Cordill inquired about a friendly amendment to the
driveway. Mr. Frederick recommend the friendly amendment
and Mr. Ruge accepted it.
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Mr. Ruge stated that he would like to have condition number
7 removed because he believes that CMH can determine
whether or not a fence is needed. Mr. Frederick stated that
he would accept it if the condition would read, that "if a fence
is constructed, that it be of an aesthetic nature." This would
give the applicant the ability to decide whether or not a fence
is needed. Ms. Cordill inquired about aesthetically pleasing
as in a wood fence or a wrought iron fence and if the Board
should be specific. Mr. Frederick stated that he brought up
at the Zoning and Ordinance Committee meeting that there
is an office and treatment facility located on Jolly Road, west
of Pennsylvania Avenue, and that there is a large yard/open
area in the back. He stated that the applicant constructed a
partially around it and half way in a green chain link fence.
He stated that green is not a good color and chain link is not
aesthetically pleasing. He made a recommendation to
change aesthetically pleasing to "the type of fence that
would be residentially aesthetically pleasing" or the kind of
fence that could be found in a residential neighborhood. He
stated no chain link or cyclone fences. He does not want to
go to the length of making of list of fences that could not be
installed. He felt that this would limit the responsibility and
authority that CMH would have to make their own
determination. He does not want to see something that
would he would not want to look at if he were to look out his
back window. Mr. Stachowiak stated that the condition
would read: "if a fence is to be constructed that it be the
type that would normally be found in a residential setting,
specifically that no chain link or cyclone fences be
permitted." Mr. Ruge accepted the friendly amendment.
Ms. Keene stated that with adverse property value, she is
troubled with that whole concept. She has seen so many
projects whenever something is being constructed the first
thing that the neighbors want to say is that this would have a
negative impact on the property value. Historically, people
jump to this conclusion. Given how CMH tends to take real
good care of their properties and these properties look nice,
she does not see how this would have an adverse impact on
the property values. The other thing that concerns her is
that perhaps some of the residents did purchase the
condominiums because they like the idea of having a forest
in their back yard. The residents cannot control the fact that
they do not own the property, and if they want to continue to
see a forest in their back yard then they should have
purchased this property. To her, this is not a good enough
reason to deny the request when it would be an asset to the
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area. The City does need residential-type facilities for CMH
clients. She is in support of the request. She stated that
City Council would decide and that the Board is just making
recommendations.
(Note: Sue, please double check the wording — I think I missed one — maybe
#3??)
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Mr. Frederick, to recommend approval of
SLU-1-2004, Aurelius Rd., Special Land Use-Residential Care Facility with the
following conditions: 1) Capacity of the facility be limited to ten persons; 2)
Operation of the adult foster care facility must meet all federal, state, and local
ordinances for the licensing of adult foster care facilities; 3) The driveway not be
expanded to 22-feet, if possible; 4) The applicant screens the parking lot from
view of the surrounding neighbors; 5) Landscaping be planted along the
Aurelius Road frontage of the site; 6) Sidewalk be installed along Aurelius Road;
7) If a fence is to be constructed that it be the type that would normally be found
in a residential setting, specifically that no chain link or cyclone fences be
permitted; 8) A tree survey be conducted with the City Forester; 9) Large trees
that are worth preserving, as determined by the City Forester, be identified and
the drip lines protected with a fence prior to any construction on the site; 10) The
location of the utility pole(s) near Aurelius Road be reviewed with the Board of
Water and Light; 11) All exterior lighting be shielded and directed downward to
prevent glare onto adjacent properties; and 12) Evergreen trees be planted along
the south side of the site.
Frederick . . Ave Keene. . . Ave
Ruge. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Cordill. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
McConnell . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Nay
On a roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 4; Nays: 1; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that the motion is carried. It will go to City Council and be
scheduled for a public hearing some time in April.
Mr. Frederick made a suggestion that the Hamilton Condominium Association be
advised of the date of the public hearing. Ms. Stachowiak stated that post cards will be
sent out to everyone who received (???????)
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b. LS-2-2004, 909 Cleveland & 1215 E. Oakland
This is a request by William & Joyce Snider. The applicant
is proposing to split off the west 43 feet of the property at
909 Cleveland and combine it with the property at 1215 E.
Oakland, resulting in the following legal descriptions:
909 Cleveland: The east 89 feet of Lot 10, Block 2, Plat of
Rouse's Subdivision of Lot 13 of Seymour Subdivision, City
of Lansing, Ingham County, Michigan.
1215 E. Oakland: The west 42 feet of Lot 11 & the west 43
feet of Lot 10, Block 2, Rouse's Subdivision of Lot 13 of
Seymour Subdivision, City of Lansing, Ingham County,
Michigan.
Section 1236.07(c) of the Zoning Ordinance requires a
minimum lot depth of 100 feet. If approved, the property at
909 Cleveland would have a lot depth of 89 feet. Section
1236.07(d) of the Zoning Ordinance allows a maximum width
to depth ratio of 1 to 2.5 for residential lots. If approved, the
property at 1215 E. Oakland would have a width to depth
ratio of 1 to 2.96. Therefore, variances from the design
requirements of the subdivision regulations are requested.
Staff recommended approval of LS-2-2004, 909 Cleveland &
1215 E. Oakland
In Committee, the request was recommended for approval
and the motion carried unanimously (3-0).
Mr. Frederick stated that there appears to be a practical
difficulty that this request is no fault to the property owner.
This is an old part of the City and the property lines were
drawn a long time ago. He believes that there is nothing that
could be done in any other way to make the properties meet
the required width to depth ratio.
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Mr. Frederick, to recommend approval of
LS-2-2004, 909 Cleveland & 1215 E. Oakland.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Keene. . . Ave
Ruge. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Cordill. . . Ave
McConnell . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
On a roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 5; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED.
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES March 16, 2004 Page 15
Next meeting, Wednesday, April 14, 2004 at 4 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Avenue, Department Conference Room
2. URBAN DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, Mr. McConnell, Chair
Next meeting, Tuesday, March 23, 2004, at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
3. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE - None.
4. EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE - None.
C. Report from Planning Manager
Ms. Stachowiak stated that City Council did approve Z-15-2003. She will
keep the Board informed from this point on as to what happens with the
cases.
D. Pending Items: Future action required
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a. Z-1-1998, 1223 N.Turner St.,"H" Light Industrial District to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled February 11, 1998)
b. SLU-3-2002,2710 N. Grand River Ave., Church in the"F"Commercial District&
"J" Parking District(Tabled May 15,2002)
2. Urban Development Committee
a. Act-9-2000,201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj. Sign Over ROW (Tabled
June 27,2000)
b. Capital Improvements Program (CIP), (Tabled March 25,2003)
C. Master Plan Project
d. Act-1-2003, SE Corner Michigan&Washington, Lot 3, Block 111, Orig Plat,
Vacate Alley(part) (Tabled on April 29,2003)
e. Act-14-2003, Conveyance of Bancroft Ct.Alley(Tabled on November 25,2003)
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planning Board
5. Board Member Code Enforcement Notification Reports
a. Teen Challenge-wood privacy fence (May 20,2003)
b. Dollar Store-Willow Street& MLK Blvd. -landscaping & buffering (May 20,
2003)
C. Grovenburg property-dumpster in ROW (July 1,2003)
d. 4831 Eastlawn Drive-huge garage(August 19,2003)
e. 2714 W.Jolly Road-church with large statue in front yard (January 20, 2004)
f. Jolly Road-tree trimming business operated from a home (January 20,2004)
Ms. Stachowiak stated that the previous Code Compliance Officer for this
area, Ms. Jeannie Wood, said in an email a few months ago that she
would not touch the weird vehicle. The new Code Compliance Officer,
Ms. Delores Fuller, stated the same thing. Ms. Stachowiak stated that
she went to their boss, Ms. Eleanor Love, and informed her that this item
was being held in place by boards. Ms. Love stated that the Code
Compliance Office will not be doing anything about it. Ms. Stachowiak
stated that she has no choice but to drop the issue. Ms. Stachowiak
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stated that this was not the first time the issue was brought up. Somehow
through the years the Code Compliance Office has determined since the
property has been used for 30 years for automotive repair and because
this vehicle has been at the same location predating the ordinance, it was
all grandfathered in. Code Compliance will not touch it.
Mr. McConnell commented that Ms. Stachowiak has sent the email to Ms.
Fuller asking about some of the issues the Board has presented. He
stated that the Board is still not getting answers (i.e. church on Jolly
Road). Ms. Stachowiak stated that the Board was given an update at the
last meeting regarding the church on Jolly Road. She stated that she sent
a letter to the church given them 30 days to take down the sign and cease
all church services. She cannot make the church remove the Budda
statue but she can have the church take down the sign and stop the
church services. She stated that the church has not complied with her
letter and that the home is being monitored. Mr. McConnell stated that he
would like a copy of the letter and asked if it could be brought to the next
meeting.
Mr. McConnell inquired about the tree trimming business on Jolly Road.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that she has not received an update the Code
Compliance Office. However, she stated that she did receive updates on
Super Wheel Auto Sales and Muffler Man, and she passed them out at the
last meeting. She did update the Board regarding the church and the
weird truck. She stated that there are a few left. Mr. McConnell stated
that with the Muffler Man issue Ms. Stachowiak had said that they were in
violation. Ms. Stachowiak stated that at the last meeting a Code
Compliance Officer did view the site and that the person was out of town.
She stated that the person did contact the Code Compliance Office and
was informed of the City's regulations and if they want to pursue selling
vehicles. Ms. Stachowiak also stated that Muffler Man is zoned for selling
just cars but they have to install the required improvements which is only
landscaping. Ms. Stachowiak did provide Muffler Man with the
landscaping requirements and the Code Compliance Officer did give them
30 days to respond with a plan or to be rid of all the cars on the site. Mr.
McConnell inquired about this notice being telephoned or in written
documentation. Ms. Stachowiak stated that Dave Vincent visited with the
owner in person and then he called Ms. Stachowiak to get the
requirements. Mr. McConnell asked if a letter was sent by Ms.
Stachowiak. She stated that she has not sent Muffler Man any letters.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that she faxed Muffler Man the requirements.
8. NEW BUSINESS — None.
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON — None.
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES March 16, 2004 Page 17
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Ms. Cordill requested an excused absence from the next meeting, April 6.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Mr. Ruge to approve an excused
absence request from Ms. Cordill for the April 6th meeting. On a voice vote, the
motion carried unanimously (5-0).
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS
Mr. Ruge stated that 201 Jones Street, a corner lot, has a 6 foot wooden fence
along the one side up against the sidewalk.
Mr. Ruge stated that 1340 Eureka Street has trash and a junk car in the
driveway.
Mr. Ruge stated that 200 Clifford Street has 2 junk cars.
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 8:07 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
PB Minutes.031604.doc
Approved as written 4-20-04 Draft to Clerk March 12,2004
Approved April 6,2004
To Clerk April 20,2004
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, March 2, 2004
1. OPENING SESSION
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Ms. Foster, Chair.
A. Roll call: Present: Frederick, Foster, Ruge, Cordill, McConnell.
B. Staff Attending: Stachowiak, Rieske, Wynant.
C. Excused absences: Keene.
Mr. McConnell made a motion, seconded by Mr. Frederick to approve an
excused absence request from Ms. Keene for tonight's meeting. On a voice
vote, the motion carried unanimously (5-0).
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Cordill to approve the agenda.
On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (5-0).
3. COMMUNICATIONS — None.
4. HEARINGS
A. SLU-1-2004, Aurelius Road, Special Land Use - Residential Care
Facility
This is a request by the Community Mental Health Authority of Clinton,
Eaton and Ingham Counties, for a special land use permit to construct a
residential care facility for up to 10 people, on a 1.8 acre site, located on
the west side of Aurelius Road, between 3918 Aurelius and Hamilton
Condominiums. The property is zoned "A" Residential District which
permits residential care facilities, with a special land use permit, if
approved by the Lansing City Council. This is not a matter of rezoning.
Mr. Ruge inquired about the types of disabilities of the residents. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that she has only heard handicapped, and this is a
question that has been asked by a lot of the neighbors.
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Mr. Ruge stated there is not an elevation of what the building would look
like and that he would like for the property to have residential character
rather than institutional. Ms. Stachowiak stated that this was a question
asked of the applicant. She stated that it will be a single-story facility and
that the applicant will try to keep with the residential character, not only for
the surrounding area but also for the residents who will live at the facility.
The applicant also has other facilities in the City that are identical to this
facility and are listed in the completed staff report.
Mr. Robert Mosher, applicant and resident of 6168 Cottage Drive,
stated that he works with Community Mental Health regarding these
homes. He was very fortunate in finding this property and because of it
being larger, there were adequate set backs. The property was on the
market in August 2003 when the partnership fell apart and he was able to
purchase the property last November. He looks for the larger lots
because he likes to have the set backs more than what is required by
code. The only area that was close was some of the parking spaces in
one corner of the driveway. This home will look much like the facility at
Coulson Court. One would not know that it was a residential care facility
unless one could spot the high volume vans for wheel chairs. He tries to
keep the homes so that they fit into the area. The facility will be a
one-story because it needs to be all barrier free. The front side is
intended to be bricked and siding would cover the rest of the home. He
tries to build a very good quality home because over 25 years usually 40%
of the cost would be in maintenance and utilities. He likes to own the
home because it is less expensive and he does a much better job than
someone who is providing care on contract. The home is sized to hold 12
residents. He likes for the homes to be a bit larger than what is absolutely
necessary so that the clients are not crowded.
Ms. Mary Clissoiv, Residential Services Supervisor for Community
Services for the Developmentally Disabled (an agency of Community
Mental Health), stated that she did bring a photograph of the home
located on Loretta Street. The residents have developmental disabilities
and this covers three types of disabilities: mental retardation, autism, and
cerebral palsy. CMH certainly operates homes for other people but the
purposes in this instance would be for residents with these types of needs.
Staffing would be 24 hours a day because the residents need quite a bit of
assistance for meeting their basic needs. The residents need help from
staff for cooking and cleaning, and some instances for bathing, dressing or
eating. With a licensed facility, there is a requirement for staff whenever
the residents are in the home.
Ms. Foster inquired about traffic flow. Ms. Clissoiv stated that a typical
routine for the day would be activities outside the home for the residents.
If the residents are of school age, between 18 years to 26 years, there
may be a bus. If the residents are over the age of 26 years, more than
likely staff would provide the transportation. There would be traffic in the
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morning. There would be one or two staff members who would be at the
facility during the daytime. Around 3:00 p.m., the residents would return
and majority of staff would arrive for their shift around 3:00 p.m. If there
were outside activities in the evening in the community, there may be a
little bit of traffic. There would be a shift change around 11:00 p.m. and
another one in the morning. Staff meetings would be held every other
week at the home so there may be more traffic on those days.
Ms. Foster stated that the plan shows a single driveway and
Transportation is asking that it be widened to 22 feet. She inquired about
having enough traffic to only need a one-lane driveway. Ms. Clissoiv
stated that the submitted site plan shows a circle drive so people could
pull in and pull out. Ms. Clissoiv stated that there is not a two-way
driveway in any of the settings and that it should not be a problem.
Mr. Jeff Spitz, resident of 4117 Ruth Street, inquired about how similar
this house would be to the one located at 634 MAC, East Lansing. Ms.
Clissoiv stated that the residents at MAC, East Lansing are people
primarily with a diagnosis of mental illness as opposed to a developmental
disability.
He also inquired about CMH owning the house and if a special use permit
is granted, would there be a guarantee that the home is not going to
change from a place for people with disabilities to a place for people with
mental illnesses. He inquired about restrictions preventing CMH from
changing who inhabits the home. Ms. Stachowiak stated that there will be
nothing preventing the home to change from one to another, and that this
is something that can be further researched.
He stated that he works in East Lansing and that the Police Department
responds to the MAC home. There are approximately 3 to 12 phone calls
per week to this residence. His property abuts the property to the home
and he has concerns. He stated that if it is a home for disabilities (i.e.
mentally retarded, autistic), he does not have an issue with it. Once CMH
receives their use permit, he does not want the residency to change. He
is aware that it is really hard to find property for those with mental
illnesses. He stated that Aurelius Road is a very busy street and that
there is a store across the street. He asked the Board to consider the
safety of the residents when they cross Aurelius Road. The MAC
residents can come and go as they please and they wander the streets
aimlessly. This is a big concern for him.
Ms. Valerie Spitz, resident of 1908 Rex Street, stated that she is
concerned with this area and that 42 years ago this was a very flood prone
area. The water backed up to the rear doors of the residents on Rex
Street. The people in the neighborhood paid a tax to have a drain system
constructed (Robinson Drain). This is in the area where the home would
be built. She inquired about the home being built on this site and if there
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES March 2, 2004 Page 4
would be the possibility of flooding. She does not want to see this
happen. The apartments were built up on Aurelius Road, and if the home
does the same, the neighbors would probably be flooded again. She
stated that the Board needs to take this into consideration. There are a lot
of families who live in the area and they do not want to take a chance
again of becoming flooded. She stated that she has no problem with a
home being constructed in this area as long as there is no flooding and
CMH sticks to what they say about the type of residents that would be at
this site. Ms. Foster stated that the water that falls on the site would have
to be dealt with.
Mr. Jeff Trust, President of the Hamilton Condominium Association,
stated that he represents 46 units and currently would like to ask for a
postponement on the decision. He would like to gather as much
information as possible so that it can be presented to the community
members to answer any questions or concerns that they may have
regarding the development. He would also like to see a picture of the
proposed development. He has several pictures of existing properties,
and has personally visited two of the sites. He stated that the facilities
seem to be well maintained.
He stated that there are concerns about traffic on the street because it
does get busy especially during the rush hour. It can take several minutes
for someone to exit the community. The party store across the street
generates a lot of activity and it also generates several robberies
throughout the year. He stated that this may be a concern for the
residents at the new facility.
He stated that as far as the flood zone area, there is at least a 12 foot
difference between his land and the proposed development property. All
the water from the Hamilton Condominium community and the
surrounding areas drain down into the proposed 1.8 acre lot. When
there are heavy rains, one can look at this area and see that it is
underground. He has lived in the community for at least 12 years and this
lot has been for sale ever since he moved to the area. There has been a
problem with trying to sell the property because the land is so low that for
one to develop it, they would have to build the land up several feet in order
for it to have proper drainage.
There is an annual association meeting on March 21St and at that time he
would like to present all of the information to the community members.
Ms. Carol Parry, resident of 1923 Lourdes Court, stated the area where
she lives is part of the Hamilton Condominium Association and that at the
annual association meeting the residents would have an opportunity to
review the information. She did receive a copy of the site plan and
reviewed it. She could tell where the driveway and the structure would be.
She wanted to know about the type of lighting that would be included
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along the driveway and if it would reflect into the windows of the area
residents. She would also like to know about the landscaping plans, and if
there would be a garbage dumpster placed on the property that would be
emptied every week. Ms. Clissoiv stated that the driveway usually is not
lighted and that there may be an outside light near the home or garage.
She stated that Captain Kirby's is used for trash disposal and that they
would pick up the trash during normal business hours. She also stated
that the lots are usually landscaped nicely and that currently there is not a
final landscape plan. There was a discussion about having cedar or pine
trees along the driveway. For this group of people, they would need a
fence so that they would have the freedom to go out into the yard without
staff supervision. There would be 2 or 3 staff on duty cooking dinner or
doing laundry and this way the residents would not have to wait to go
outside. If there is a fence, then staff would not have to worry about
Aurelius Road for safety reasons.
Ms. Jill Bronkan, resident of 1901 Lourdes Court and member of the
Hamilton Condominium Association Board, stated that she would also
like a postponement for a month so that the association can discuss the
development at the annual meeting on March 21St. She stated that this
facility would affect approximately 15 to 20 condominiums. The units are
in a long row and the residents can see out into the woods. The condos
are situated so that they are faced to the back, and they have 20 foot tall
windows. The views and privacy are very important and valuable to the
residents. The neighborhood is very quiet. Many of the residents would
be affected by the way the home would be situated on the lot because the
home would not be up against the road like a normal home. It would be
perpendicular to Aurelius Road and along the row of the condominiums. It
will affect a number of people.
Ms. Foster recommended that CMH meet with the Hamilton Condominium
Association and present all their information regarding this development.
She stated that maybe this would help the residents to understand what
the development would be like, and that this would open the doors of
communication between them.
Ms. Cordill inquired about the petition and if the home could be changed
to a home with people with mental illnesses. Mr. Mosher stated that in the
system there are homes that have been owned for over 20 years and that
he cannot predict what would happen. Most of the homes are intended to
be kept for another 20 years. Usually one does not want to change the
use of a home because it means a complete re-licensing. If the population
was changed then the home would have to be completely vacated and
brought up to the standards of the different population and need new
licenses. The homes tend to stay in the same type of use but there is
nothing that can guarantee what would happen in the future.
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Seeing no one else wishing to speak, Ms. Foster referred SLU-1-2004 to
the next Zoning and Ordinance Committee, scheduled to meet on
March 10, 2004 at 4:00 p.m. in the Planning and Neighborhood
Development Conference Room at 316 N. Capitol Avenue.
B. LS-2-2004, 909 Cleveland & 1215 E. Oakland
This is a lot split request by William & Joyce Snider. The applicant is
proposing to split off the west 43 feet of the property at 909 Cleveland and
combine it with the property at 1215 E. Oakland, resulting in the following
legal descriptions:
909 Cleveland. The east 89 feet of Lot 10, Block 2, Plat of
Rouse's Subdivision of Lot 13 of Seymour Subdivision, City of
Lansing, Ingham County, Michigan.
1215 E. Oakland: The west 42 feet of Lot 11 & the west 43 feet of
Lot 10, Block 2, Rouse's Subdivision of Lot 13 of Seymour
Subdivision, City of Lansing, Ingham County, Michigan.
Section 1236.07(c) of the Zoning Ordinance requires a minimum lot depth
of 100 feet. If approved, the property at 909 Cleveland would have a lot
depth of 89 feet. Section 1236.07(d) of the Zoning Ordinance allows a
maximum width to depth ratio of 1 to 2.5 for residential lots. If approved,
the property at 1215 E. Oakland would have a width to depth ratio of 1 to
2.96. Therefore, variances from the design requirements of the
subdivision regulations are requested.
William and Joyce Snider, applicants and residents of 330 East Main,
Ionia, stated that all they are trying to do is improve from a tiny, 26 foot
back yard to a yard that children could play in.
Mrs. Snider stated that the property located at 909 Cleveland has
already been sold and was surveyed to the fence. When the fence was
constructed, she stated that they did not know about the 100 foot depth
requirement and she apologized for not doing it correctly. Now they want
to correct the situation.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak, Ms. Foster referred LS-2-2004 to
the next Zoning and Ordinance Committee, scheduled to meet on
March 10, 2004 at 4:00 p.m. in the Planning and Neighborhood
Development Conference Room at 316 N. Capitol Avenue.
C. ACT-1-2004, Muskegon Ave., Street Reconstruction Project
This is a request by the City of Lansing Public Service Department to
conduct a review of a proposed reconstruction project, involving
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Muskegon Ave. which stretches from Comfort Street to Robertson
Avenue, to improve the street and add storm sewer and curb and gutter.
It is located substantially on property that is currently owned by the Board
of Water and Light (BWL).
The Act 285 review and related corresponding BWL Transfer of
Jurisdiction review is necessary to:
1) Clear up ownership issues between the BWL and the City on
the roadway known as Muskegon Avenue between Comfort
Street and Robertson Avenue.
2) Obtain easements to the City from the Board of Water and
Light and Pennsylvania Line Railroad to provide a storm sewer
outlet for the proposed street improvements, and
3) Formalize arrangements to give Mac's All Car access over
BWL-owned land that is presently being used as the Mac's All
Car private driveway.
The Planning Board will consider this matter in accordance with P.A. 285
Public Acts of 1931, as amended.
Ms. Jeanine Eno, resident of 1901 Comfort Street, stated that she has
concerns about this request. She has lived at her residence for over 7
years. The road being unpaved is the only thing that keeps the road safe.
The cars that travel on this road go flying down the road. There are 10
kids who live in the homes on Muskegon Avenue, and she lives on the
corner with her 2 kids. Because there are no sidewalks and no place for
the kids to walk but on the side of the road, the gravel keeps the street
safe for them to walk to each others' homes. She has spoken to a lot of
her neighbors who have lived in the area for over 30 years. They are very
concerned about paving the road, who would have to pay for it, and if the
residents would have to pay for the gutters and curbs. She lives at the
dead end of Comfort Street where Muskegon Avenue and Comfort Street
cross. Muskegon Avenue runs in to her front yard and she would like to
know what will happen to her front yard. She is aware that curbs and
gutters will be put in. She has had 5 cars end up in her front yard in 7
years and the only thing that has kept the cars from hitting her house is
the road not being paved. The dirt seems to slow them down a little bit.
The neighbors requested that Board of Water and Light (BWL) put a chain
on the poles at the dead end, which they did. The cars would go down to
the dead end and dump their trash in the woods. She would pick up the
trash from the woods and put it in her Granger to try and keep the woods
cleaned up. When the cars are parked and the people go to the river to
fish, they already park in front of her house, driveway, and the chained
poles. She inquired about something being set up in this area and how it
would be handled.
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Mr. Frederick stated that this request would be referred to the Urban
Development Committee and when the decision is made in Committee, he
would be interested in the answers to these concerns. He believed that
the concerns were legitimate and that he would like to see some solutions
suggested that would handle these situations.
Mr. Rieske stated that having questions now is good. If Ms. Eno came to
the Urban Development Committee meeting, it gives the Planning Office
time to know what the questions are and to see what can be done. He
stated that there is not a Public Comments period in the Committee
meetings but the public is certainly welcome to attend. He stated that
questions are usually addressed during the course of the meeting and that
this was not the wrong place for Ms. Eno's questions.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak, Ms. Foster referred ACT-1-2004 to
the next Urban Development Committee, scheduled to meet on
March 23, 2004 at 4:00 p.m. in the Planning and Neighborhood
Development Conference Room at 316 N. Capitol Avenue.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (5 minutes each)
Seeing no one wishing to address the Board, Ms. Foster closed the public
comment period.
6. RECESS — None.
7. BUSINESS SESSION
A. Minutes for Approval — January 20, 2004
Mr. Frederick moved; seconded by Ms. Cordill to approve the minutes of
January 20, 2004 without corrections. On a voice vote, the motion carried
unanimously (5-0). The minutes of January 20, 2004 were
APPROVED.
Minutes for Approval — February 17, 2004
Mr. Frederick moved; seconded by Mr. McConnell to approve the minutes
of February 17, 2004 with corrections. On a voice vote, the motion
carried unanimously (5-0). The minutes of February 17, 2004 were
APPROVED WCORRECTIONS.
Pg. 7, 2nd line from the bottom, "Mayor's Office" s/b "Planning Board".
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES March 2, 2004 Page 9
B. Committee Reports
1. ZONING AND ORDINANCE COMMITTEE, Mr. Ruge, Chair
Next meeting, Wednesday, March 10, 2004 at 4 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Avenue, Department Conference Room
2. URBAN DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, Mr. McConnell, Chair
a. Act-11-2003, 227 E. Hazel Street, Vacate portions of
Hazel & Platt Streets, Acquire portion of Riverfront Park
The applicants, Sandra and Ronald Green, wish to correct
encroachments of a newly constructed garage and fence on
City dedicated park land (River Point Park and public right-
of-way of E. Hazel and Platt Street) by acquiring the
additional land, through purchase of the land for private
ownership, and combining the parcels.
Specifically, the applicants are requesting three (3) actions:
1. the sale of a portion of River Point Park to the
applicants to eliminate the encroachment of their
garage onto Park property.
2. the vacation of the west 26.45' of the Platt Street
ROW to eliminate the encroachment of the driveway
and fence, located in the ROW on the east side of the
property at 227 E. Hazel.
3. the vacation of the north 7' ± of the Hazel Street ROW
to eliminate the encroachment of the fence, located
just north of the sidewalk south of (in front of) 227 E.
Hazel.
Parcel A is the applicants' property, a platted parcel, 33' x
99' (3,267 square feet), at 227 E. Hazel Street.
Parcel B would include a 350.7 square foot (6' x 33' +
25.45') strip along the front of 227 E. Hazel St., plus sections
of River Point Park and Platt St., 3959.25 square feet [(33' x
33') + (25.45' x 33' + 99')], totaling 4,309.95 square feet.
The combined parcels would result in a 7,226.25 square foot
lot, more than doubling the size of the existing lot of record.
Staff recommended approval, with modifications and
conditions, of the street vacations requested by the
applicants, and denial of their request to purchase parkland.
In Committee, the following recommendations were made:
1. denial of the request by Sandra and Ronald Green
that the City sell any portion of River Point Park,
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2. the vacation of the west 16.45 feet of the Platt Street
ROW that is directly adjacent to the applicant's
property at 227 E. Hazel Street, conditioned on the
following:
A. the garage and associated concrete be
removed from the River Point Park property,
B. the current site of the garage be restored,
including filling to the surrounding grade with
top soil and seeding with an acceptable
mixture, as directed by the Parks Department,
C. all fencing located within the Platt Street ROW
that is not to be vacated shall be removed,
3. the conveyance of an easement to the applicant,
authorizing access across the adjacent parking area
of River Point Park to the applicant's rear yard, and
stating that the City will not be responsible for any
maintenance activities or improvements within the
easement area needed to facilitate the applicant's
access to the rear yard,
4. the vacation of the north seven feet of the Hazel
Street ROW that is directly adjacent to the applicant's
property at 227 Hazel St. and the portion of the Platt
St. ROW to be vacated, conditioned on the removal of
any fencing located within the Hazel Street ROW that
is not to be vacated,
5. that no street ROW be vacated, and that no easement
be granted, unless all the foregoing conditions are
satisfied by the applicant on or before September 1,
2004.
and the motion carried unanimously (3-0).
Mr. Rieske clarified that the Committee recommendation
was for the denial of the request to sell park property and
approval, with modifications and conditions, of the vacation
of portions of Platt and Hazel Streets.
Mr. McConnell made a motion, seconded by Ms. Cordill, to recommend denial of
Act-11-03, 227 E. Hazel Street, Vacate portions of Hazel & Platt Streets, Acquire
portion of Riverfront Park with the following conditions: 1) Denial of the request
by Sandra and Ronald Green that the City sell any portion of River Point Park;
2) The vacation of the west 16.45 feet of the Platt Street ROW that is directly
adjacent to the applicant's property at 227 E. Hazel Street, conditioned on the
following: a) the garage and associated concrete be removed from the River
Point Park property, b) the current site of the garage be restored, including filling
to the surrounding grade with top soil and seeding with an acceptable mixture, as
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES March 2, 2004 Page 11
directed by the Parks Department, c) all fencing located within the Platt Street
ROW that is not to be vacated shall be removed; 3) The conveyance of an
easement to the applicant, authorizing access across the adjacent parking area of
River Point Park to the applicant's rear yard, and stating that the City will not be
responsible for any maintenance activities or improvements within the easement
area needed to facilitate the applicant's access to the rear yard; 4) the vacation of
the north seven feet of the Hazel Street ROW that is directly adjacent to the
applicant's property at 227 Hazel St. and the portion of the Platt St. ROW to be
vacated, conditioned on the removal of any fencing located within the Hazel
Street ROW that is not to be vacated; and 5) that no street ROW be vacated, and
that no easement be granted, unless all the foregoing conditions are satisfied by
the applicant on or before September 1, 2004.
Frederick . . Ave Foster. . . Ave
Ruge. . . . . . . . . . . . . ..... . . . . . . . . Ave Cordill. Ave
McConnell Ave
On a roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 5; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED.
Next meeting, Tuesday, March 23, 2004, at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
3. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE - None.
4. EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE - None.
C. Report from Planning Manager
Ms. Stachowiak stated that everyone signed the letter that would be sent
to the Mayor's Office.
D. Pending Items: Future action required
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a Z-1-1998, 1223 N.Turner St.,"H"Light Industrial District to"G-1"Business
District(Tabled February 11, 1998)
b. SLU-3-2002,2710 N. Grand River Ave., Church in the"F"Commercial District&
"J" Parking District(Tabled May 15,2002)
2. Urban Development Committee
a. Act-9-2000, 201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj. Sign Over ROW (Tabled
June 27, 2000)
b. Capital Improvements Program (CIP), (Tabled March 25, 2003)
c. Master Plan Project
d. Act-1-2003, SE Corner Michigan &Washington, Lot 3, Block 111, Orig Plat,
Vacate Alley(part) (Tabled on April 29, 2003)
e. Act-14-2003, Conveyance of Bancroft Ct.Alley(Tabled on November 25,2003)
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planning Board
5. Board Member Code Enforcement Notification Reports
a. Teen Challenge-wood privacy fence (May 20,2003)
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES March 2, 2004 Page 12
b. Dollar Store-Willow Street&MLK Blvd.-landscaping &buffering (May 20, 2003)
c. Grovenburg property-dumpster in ROW(July 1,2003)
d. 4831 Eastlawn Drive-huge garage(August 19, 2003)
e. Pryor's Towing-time frame for completion of conditions(September 3,2003)
f. Super Wheel Auto Sales-S.Cedar Street, South of Mt. Hope- heavy equipment
taken off dirt&placed in parking area over gas easement(September 10,2003)
g. Grand River-weird truck(September 10,2003)
h. Muffler Man,Jolly& MLK-cars for sale (January 6,2004)
i. 2714 W.Jolly Road-church with large statue in front yard (January 20,2004)
j. Jolly Road-tree trimming business operated from a home (January 20, 2004)
Ms. Stachowiak gave an update on the pending items. She asked Mr.
Frederick about item 5f and if there was still a violation on the site. She
stated that the Code Compliance Officer did not see any violations. Mr.
Frederick stated that when he first referred this item, there was a front
loader parked on what looks like a newly constructed parking lot. He
inquired about whether or not it was appropriate for the owner to extend
the parking lot on what is basically an empty piece of property and if a
permit was needed to do it. Mr. Frederick stated that it was clearly not a
parking lot when the owner started. The heavy equipment is gone and it
was parked over a natural gas easement. He stated that there must be a
natural gas pipe underground. He stated that someone took away the
sign that said that there is an easement there or an underground line.
Ms. Stachowiak gave Mr. McConnell an update on item 5h.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that she sent a letter to the church, item 5i, and
that she gave them 30 days to cease all church activities and find another
location. She has not heard from the church yet.
8. NEW BUSINESS — None.
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON
Ms. Foster stated that she did complete the Planning Board evaluation and will
mail it to the Planning Office.
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Mr. Ruge inquired about what was happening with Bancroft Court. Mr. Rieske
stated that the Planning Office requested further information from the applicant
and has not yet received it. He was hoping that the information would have been
available at the Urban Development Committee meeting on February 24th. He
stated that it is on his tentative agenda for the next Committee meeting on
rd
March 23
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES March 2, 2004 Page 13
Mr. McConnell stated that he met with Ms. Gretchan Cochran of the City Pulse
today and that she had concerns regarding accessibility of Planning information
(i.e. dates of meetings, master plan information). He stated that there were also
Planning Department concerns (i.e. recommendations). She will be writing an
article soon about the Planning Department. Ms. Stachowiak stated that Mr.
Rieske and Mr. Ruff spent 2 hours with Ms. Cochran this afternoon. Mr.
Frederick stated that he did chat with Ms. Cochran about a week ago.
Ms. Cordill complimented Mr. Rieske on the Committee meeting minutes and
making them understandable.
Ms. Foster inquired about the Master Plan. Mr. Rieske stated that the Planning
Office is updating a variety of different portions of the plan, more element by
element. There are some demographics work that has been completed in part
pursuant to the community government project through the Mayor's Office.
There is some draft language that the Planning Office is working on. The
Planning Office is working with the Parks Board regarding their 5 year Master
Plan update and this will be placed in the community facilities element. There is
a housing task force through the Mayor's Office that is working on a variety of
different things regarding market rate housing in Lansing. The Planning staff had
a meeting regarding their comments as a staff in order to make suggestions for
revisions and this will go into the housing element. The Planning Office is
working on the consolidated plan and this plan deals more with housing
assistance programs and assisted housing and the expenditure of community
development funds for those ends. This will also be included in the plan. He
stated that all of these items are components of the plan. The Planning Office is
receiving updates on a regular basis from the community summits from Ron
Whitmore and Jo Nelson. The Planning Office is working on a small Master Plan
amendment along with a Neighborhood Preservation Program application for the
Baker Donora which runs between Pennsylvania Avenue and Cedar Street,
south of the river and north of Mt. Hope Avenue. This involves a number of
activities. The Planning Office is working on Area 17 Traffic Calming and
recently reviewed it. There are a variety of things that can go into Master
Planning. The Planning Office has been working on the Regional Growth project
in terms of the planning process but it has not been completed.
Mr. Rieske stated that there are Regional Growth themes and principles relating
to land use, transportation, etc. and there is a companion plan (Regional 20/25
Plan) to the Regional Growth Plan. This plans has its set of goals and objectives
and the Planning Office is working towards having them being compatible with
each other. He has worked with them on having more growth containment (Wise
Growth) to prevent sprawl. He is hoping to move towards revitalization.
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS — None.
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES March 2, 2004 Page 14
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 8:12 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
PB Minutes.030204.doc
APPROVED WITH CORRECTIONS: Draft to Clerk February 23,2004
PG 7,2"d line from the bottom, "Mayor's Office"s/b"Planning Board" Approved March 2,2004
To Clerk March 3,2004
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, February 17, 2004
1. OPENING SESSION
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Ms. Foster, Chair.
A. Roll call: Present: Frederick, Foster, Keene, Ruge, Cordill, McConnell.
B. Staff Attending: Stachowiak.
C. Excused absences: None.
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Ms. Cordill to approve an excused
absence request from Ms. Foster for the February 3rd meeting. On a voice vote,
the motion carried unanimously (5-0).
Ms. Foster stated for the record that Mr. McConnell has arrived after role was
taken and that he will be present for the duration of the meeting.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to approve the agenda.
On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0).
3. COMMUNICATIONS — None.
4. HEARINGS — None.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (5 minutes each) r
Seeing no one wishing to address the Board, Ms. Foster closed the public
comment period.
6. RECESS — None. �_--, c?
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7. BUSINESS SESSION
A. Minutes for Approval — February 3, 2004
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 17, 2004 Page 2
Ms. Cordill moved; seconded by Mr. Frederick to approve the minutes of
February 3, 2004 without corrections. On a voice vote, the motion carried
unanimously (6-0). The minutes of February 3, 2004 were
APPROVED.
B. Committee Reports
1. ZONING AND ORDINANCE COMMITTEE, Mr. Ruge, Chair
a. Z-1-2004, 3200 N. Grand River, "A" Residential District to
"D-1" Professional District
This is a request by Daniel Korrey to rezone the property at
3200 N. Grand River, more specifically described as:
Lot 26, Westwood Subdivision No 1, City of Lansing,
Eaton County, Michigan
from "A" Residential District to "D-1" Professional Office
District. The purpose of the rezoning is to bring the existing
use of the building as an office into compliance with the
Zoning Ordinance.
Staff recommended denial of Z-1-2004, 3200 N. Grand
River, "A" Residential District to "D-1" Professional District
because the rezoning would not be consistent with the
Master Plan or existing land uses in the area.
In Committee, the request was recommended for denial
and the motion carried unanimously (3-0).
Mr. McConnell inquired about the business still operating at
the site without the rezoning. Ms. Stachowiak stated that the
business can operate at the site with restrictions. One of the
restrictions is that the business has to maintain its residential
character and that only 50% of the floor area of the building
can be used for the business. The other 50% has to be
used for residential purposes. The property owner has to
occupy the residential portion of the building. The
restrictions were basically focused towards keeping the
property as residential as possible and minimizing the office
use. The business has been limited to 15 clients per day
and the Planning Office has no evidence that the applicant
has violated any of those conditions.
Mr. McConnell inquired about the list of conditions. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that the conditions were in the staff
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 17, 2004 Page 3
report. Ms. Stachowiak stated that NCU-10-1991 lists the
conditions and she read them aloud.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that the concern of staff and
Committee when the recommendation was made to deny the
rezoning, was that if the rezoning was approved, the
applicant would not be required to meet any of the
conditions of the approved NCU.
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Mr. Frederick, to recommend denial of
Z-1-2004, 3200 N. Grand River, "A" Residential District to "D-1" Professional
District.
Frederick . .Ave Foster. . . Ave
Keene Ave Ruge. Ave
Cordill. Ave McConnell. .Ave
On a roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
DENIED.
b. Ordinance Amendment - Accessory Structures
Mr. Ruge stated that there wasn't anything that needed to be
done tonight and that it was only being reported out of
Committee so that a public hearing could be scheduled.
C. Overlay District
Mr. Ruge stated that in Committee, the motion was passed
for the Planning Office to distribute this amendment to the
effective community groups for their input before further
action could be taken.
Next meeting, Wednesday, March 10, 2004 at 4 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Avenue, Department Conference Room
2. URBAN DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, Mr. McConnell, Chair
a. Proposed Objectives, Goals and Projected Use of
Community Development Fund Resources, including the
Community Development Block Grant (CDBG), Home
and Emergency Shelter Programs, FY 2005
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 17, 2004 Page 4
Mr. McConnell stated for the record that he and Mr.
Frederick volunteered to help with the neighborhood
cleanup. He stated that it is a good program and would like
to have it expanded. Currently, there is not a lot of money to
expand the program. Anyone else willing to help clean up
the neighborhoods would be welcomed. This would do the
City a lot of good.
In Committee, the request was recommended for approval
and the motion carried unanimously (3-0).
Mr. McConnell stated that there is a new fair housing center
that is being supported by the City. He would like to make a
friendly amendment to offer support, if possible, for this new
center. Ms. Keene accepted the friendly amendment.
Ms. Foster inquired about how the budget was decided. Mr.
Lysakowski stated that the current proposal for the budget is
one that has been consistent with prior years' funding
sources. Public services are organizations that have come
to the Planning and Neighborhood Development division and
inquired about funding assistance. Administration was able
to have 20% of the CDBG funds assigned for Administration
and that the level is currently at 14 to 15 percent.
Development is trying to keep administration funding as low
as possible in order for Development to spend more on
bricks and mortar. Ms. Foster stated that this is a typical
budget and that by spreading things too thin, not much may
get done. She inquired about having more funds designated
to a specific area in hopes of more being accomplished. Mr.
Lysakowski stated that the Development Office has been
pretty successful with what is being done, and that there is
an evaluation at the end of the fiscal year. If there are left
over funds in certain areas, the funds would need to be
readjusted and transferred to other areas (i.e. public
improvements, urban development). He stated that a public
hearing is held to obtain comments from Lansing citizens so
that the City knows its direction based on the needs of the
citizens.
Ms. Stachowiak inquired about which department the new
center was affiliated with. Mr. McConnell stated that Human
Relations was overseeing the center. One of the items that
is needed by the new center is financial support. One of the
items in the budget is money for fair housing initiatives, and
he would like to see some of the funds used for the new
center.
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 17, 2004 Page 5
Mr. Lysakowski stated that the department did finally receive
allocation of these funds. The only adjustment from what
was presented at the UDC meeting is that there is
approximately an additional $2,500 in CDBG funds.
Mr. McConnell made a motion, seconded by Mr. Ruge, to recommend approval of
Proposed Objectives, Goals and Projected Use of Community Development Fund
Resources, including the Community Development Block Grant (CDBG), Home
and Emergency Shelter Programs, FY 2005 with the condition that the City offer
support for the new fair housing center.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Foster. . . Aye
Keene Ave Ruge. Ave
Cordill. Ave McConnell Ave
On a roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED.
Next meeting, Tuesday, February 24, 2004, at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
3. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE - None.
4. EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE - None.
C. Report from Planning Manager
Ms. Stachowiak stated that if Board members have not already turned in
their evaluations, she would like to have them by the next meeting.
D. Pending Items: Future action required
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a Z-1-1998, 1223 N.Turner St.,"H" Light Industrial District to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled February 11, 1998)
b. SLU-3-2002,2710 N. Grand River Ave., Church in the"F"Commercial District&
"J" Parking District(Tabled May 15, 2002)
2. Urban Development Committee
a. Act-9-2000, 201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj. Sign Over ROW (Tabled
June 27, 2000)
b. Capital Improvements Program (CIP), (Tabled March 25, 2003)
c. Master Plan Project
d. Act-1-2003, SE Corner Michigan &Washington, Lot 3, Block 111, Orig Plat,
Vacate Alley(part) (Tabled on April 29, 2003)
e. Act-14-2003, Conveyance of Bancroft Ct.Alley(Tabled on November 25,2003)
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planning Board
5. Board Member Code Enforcement Notification Reports
a. Teen Challenge-wood privacy fence(May 20,2003)
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 17, 2004 Page 6
b. Dollar Store-Willow Street& MLK Blvd.-landscaping &buffering (May 20, 2003)
c. Grovenburg property-dumpster in ROW (July 1,2003)
d. 4831 Eastlawn Drive-huge garage (August 19, 2003)
e. Pryor's Towing-time frame for completion of conditions(September 3,2003)
f. Super Wheel Auto Sales-S. Cedar Street, South of Mt. Hope-heavy equipment
taken off dirt&placed in parking area over gas easement(September 10, 2003)
g. Grand River-weird truck(September 10,2003)
h. Muffler Man, Jolly& MLK-cars for sale (January 6,2004)
i. 2714 W.Jolly Road-church with large statue in front yard (January 20,2004)
j. Jolly Road-tree trimming business operated from a home(January 20,2004)
8. NEW BUSINESS
A. Proposed Amendments to the Planning Board Rules of
Administrative Procedure
Ms. Stachowiak stated that there has not been more than three members
on the Zoning and Ordinance Committee for a long time. At one time t
there were four members on the Urban Development Committee. This
creates a problem when one Board member is absent. There have been
a few situations where there was not a quorum and the members who
were present were not able to take action. Under the proposed
amendment, instead of three members being a majority of the four, it
would take a majority of the seated quorum in order to make decisions.
From this, instead of taking three people to make decisions for the
Committee, two would be able to make decisions if there were only three
members total on the Committee. Whatever the Board decides is final.
This would not go before City Council.
Ms. Cordill inquired about the new information being different from what
was in the packet. Ms. Stachowiak stated that the new information was
written differently.
Mr. McConnell stated that in a discussion with Mr. Rieske the issue had
come up before but no action was taken. He mentioned absentee voting
and if a member was not present at a meeting could still vote on a
particular issue. He is not sure whether or not this could be interjected in
conjunction with the administrative procedure. Ms. Stachowiak stated that
there does not need to be action taken this evening, and that the issue
could be addressed at the next meeting if Board members are not
prepared to take action.
Mr. Frederick inquired about the absentee voting. Ms. Keene stated that
she picks up information from the audience and other Committee
members that she had not thought about. She believes that it is important
to have the deliberation process. Mr. McConnell stated that by not being
in attendance, one would not have the whole picture. Ms. Stachowiak
stated that this type of voting has never been done. Mr. Ruge stated that
it could be a workable idea if a person could by telephone listen to the
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 17, 2004 Page 7
meeting and take part in it. He agreed that a lot of information is picked
up at the meetings. Ms. Stachowiak stated that someone could be placed
on speaker phone but she was not sure of how well the discussion would
be picked up. Mr. Frederick stated that he has done this before and if two
people were absent then two speakers would need to be set up. In his
experience, it was never as good as being present at the meeting to have
the interaction between the applicants and staff. There is always more
information that keeps surfacing.
Ms. Foster inquired about what would happen if only two members were
on the Committee. This would almost allow the Boards to become
smaller. There needs to be something to say that the Boards need to be
filled. She stated that there should be a time limit. Mr. Frederick stated
that this is only for the Committees and not the Planning Board. The only
alternative, if there are not enough people in attendance at the Committee
to make a recommendation to the full Board, then the options would be to
convene to the Committee of the Whole or have the Committee meeting
before the Board meeting and hope for everyone to be in attendance. Ms.
Foster stated that the Committee should have four members so that if one
member is absent, it would not be big deal. Currently, there are only three
Committee members and when one is absent, it becomes a bigger issue.
She believes that because there is not a full Board it is more of a problem.
Mr. Frederick stated that there have always been three Committee
members, even when there was a full Board. Mr. Ruge stated that he
remembers when there were eight Board members and there were four
members on each Committee. Ms. Keene stated that when she started on
the Board, there were eight members and four members on each
Committee. Ms. Foster stated that there needs to be something written
forcing the Mayor's Office to take action. Ms. Stachowiak stated that it
could be written to have not less than two members constitute a majority.
She also stated that the Board could ask that their concerns regarding
membership on the Board be sent to the Mayor's Office. A letter on behalf
of the Board can be drafted and sent to the Mayor. Ms. Stachowiak stated
that there are no time constraints for action on this item. Mr. Frederick
stated that he was in agreement with sending the Board's concerns to the
Mayor's Office. If there are not enough members on the Board and there
is no quorum, then business slows down. This is not good for the City.
Citizens would become annoyed and they should expect a prompt flow of
business. Even if the application is denied, citizens should know where
they are in the process. Ms. Cordill stated that one of the concerns was a
Committee not being able to meet, and she appreciated Mr. Frederick
sitting in on her behalf when she couldn't make the last meeting. Because
there are only three members on the Committee and the existing language
is such that there needs to be three members for a quorum, she inquired
about adding a stop-gap now so that at least two out of three members
would be able to forward a recommendation to the '
Planning Board. Ms. Stachowiak stated that business needs to be done.
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 17, 2004 Page 8
Ms. Foster agreed. Ms. Keene stated that the Board needs to keep
business moving and that she values the input from the audience. There
is not as much input when there are only two Committee members versus
having three members. There are not enough ears and eyes to review the
information.
Ms. Cordill made a motion, seconded by Mr. Frederick to approve the Proposed
Amendments to the Planning Board Rules of Administrative Procedure with the
condition that the maximum membership would be four and that the minimum
membership would be two. On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0).
Mr. Ruge stated that under the Committee of the Whole, it should read
consistent with the majority of the total City board membership instead of
community membership. He stated that community membership would be
whoever is present at the time.
Ms. Cordill inquired about the purpose of the Committee of the Whole.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that every case has to go through a Committee.
There have been a few instances where the Zoning and Ordinance
Committee could not meet. Rather than delaying the case until the next
month when the Committee can meet, it is brought to Committee of the
Whole for discussion. Mr. Frederick stated that ordinarily the Committee
of the Whole meets when the whole Board is seated. When there is not a
majority seated, then the Committee of the Whole could not meet. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that the same rules apply as they would for the entire
Board. If there is no majority of the Board, then a meeting could not be
held.
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON — None.
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS — None.
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS
Mr. McConnell inquired about the Code Member Notification Reports and
updates from the department and stated that lately there has been some
slacking. Ms. Stachowiak stated that she gave an update at the last meeting but
Mr. McConnell was not present. She stated that she will have more information
at the next meeting.
Mr. Ruge stated that the weird truck on Grand River has been moved. It is still in
the same area. It used to be parked at an angle but now has been parked
straight in so that the nose of the vehicle faces the street.
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 17, 2004 Page 9
Mr. McConnell inquired about updates from the last meeting and if Ms.
Stachowiak had the correspondence with her. Ms. Stachowiak stated that she
did not have the correspondence with her and that the items had been stricken
off the agenda pending list. Mr. Frederick stated that it was the sign being
constructed on the grounds of the Beekman School. He stated that the school
did have a permit for the sign.
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 7:47 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
PB Minutes.021704.doc
Draft to Clerk February 23,2004
Approved 2004
To Clerk 2004
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers r—
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, February 17, 2004
Ul y
1. OPENING SESSION
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Ms. Foster, Chair.
A. Roll call: Present: Frederick, Foster, Keene, Ruge, Cordill, McConnell.
B. Staff Attending: Stachowiak.
C. Excused absences: None.
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Ms. Cordill to approve an excused
absence request from Ms. Foster for the February 3rd meeting. On a voice vote,
the motion carried unanimously (5-0).
Ms. Foster stated for the record that Mr. McConnell has arrived after role was
taken and that he will be present for the duration of the meeting.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to approve the agenda.
On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0).
3. COMMUNICATIONS — None.
4. HEARINGS — None.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (5 minutes each)
Seeing no one wishing to address the Board, Ms. Foster closed the public
comment period.
6. RECESS — None.
7. BUSINESS SESSION
A. Minutes for Approval — February 3, 2004
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 17, 2004 Page 2
Ms. Cordill moved; seconded by Mr. Frederick to approve the minutes of
February 3, 2004 without corrections. On a voice vote, the motion carried
unanimously (6-0). The minutes of February 3, 2004 were
APPROVED.
B. Committee Reports
1. ZONING AND ORDINANCE COMMITTEE, Mr. Ruge, Chair
a. Z-1-2004, 3200 N. Grand River, "A" Residential District to
"D-1" Professional District
This is a request by Daniel Korrey to rezone the property at
3200 N. Grand River, more specifically described as:
Lot 26, Westwood Subdivision No 1, City of Lansing,
Eaton County, Michigan
from "A" Residential District to "D-1" Professional Office
District. The purpose of the rezoning is to bring the existing
use of the building as an office into compliance with the
Zoning Ordinance.
Staff recommended denial of Z-1-2004, 3200 N. Grand
River, "A" Residential District to "D-1" Professional District
because the rezoning would not be consistent with the
Master Plan or existing land uses in the area.
In Committee, the request was recommended for denial
and the motion carried unanimously (3-0).
Mr. McConnell inquired about the business still operating at
the site without the rezoning. Ms. Stachowiak stated that the
business can operate at the site with restrictions. One of the
restrictions is that the business has to maintain its residential
character and that only 50% of the floor area of the building
can be used for the business. The other 50% has to be
used for residential purposes. The property owner has to
occupy the residential portion of the building. The
restrictions were basically focused towards keeping the
property as residential as possible and minimizing the office
use. The business has been limited to 15 clients per day
and the Planning Office has no evidence that the applicant
has violated any of those conditions.
Mr. McConnell inquired about the list of conditions. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that the conditions were in the staff
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 17, 2004 Page 3
report. Ms. Stachowiak stated that NCU-10-1991 lists the
conditions and she read them aloud.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that the concern of staff and
Committee when the recommendation was made to deny the
rezoning, was that if the rezoning was approved, the
applicant would not be required to meet any of the
conditions of the approved NCU.
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Mr. Frederick, to recommend denial of
Z-1-2004, 3200 N. Grand River, "A" Residential District to "D-1" Professional
District.
Frederick .Ave Foster. Ave
Keene Ave Ruge. Ave
Cordill. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave McConnell. .Ave
On a roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
DENIED.
b. Ordinance Amendment -Accessory Structures
Mr. Ruge stated that there wasn't anything that needed to be
done tonight and that it was only being reported out of
Committee so that a public hearing could be scheduled.
C. Overlay District
Mr. Ruge stated that in Committee, the motion was passed
for the Planning Office to distribute this amendment to the
effective community groups for their input before further
action could be taken.
Next meeting, Wednesday, March 10, 2004 at 4 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Avenue, Department Conference Room
2. URBAN DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, Mr. McConnell, Chair
a. Proposed Objectives, Goals and Projected Use of
Community Development Fund Resources, including the
Community Development Block Grant (CDBG), Home
and Emergency Shelter Programs, FY 2005
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 17, 2004 Page 4
Mr. McConnell stated for the record that he and Mr.
Frederick volunteered to help with the neighborhood
cleanup. He stated that it is a good program and would like
to have it expanded. Currently, there is not a lot of money to
expand the program. Anyone else willing to help clean up
the neighborhoods would be welcomed. This would do the
City a lot of good.
In Committee, the request was recommended for approval
and the motion carried unanimously (3-0).
Mr. McConnell stated that there is a new fair housing center
that is being supported by the City. He would like to make a
friendly amendment to offer support, if possible, for this new
center. Ms. Keene accepted the friendly amendment.
Ms. Foster inquired about how the budget was decided. Mr.
Lysakowski stated that the current proposal for the budget is
one that has been consistent with prior years' funding
sources. Public services are organizations that have come
to the Planning and Neighborhood Development division and
inquired about funding assistance. Administration was able
to have 20% of the CDBG funds assigned for Administration
and that the level is currently at 14 to 15 percent.
Development is trying to keep administration funding as low
as possible in order for Development to spend more on
bricks and mortar. Ms. Foster stated that this is a typical
budget and that by spreading things too thin, not much may
get done. She inquired about having more funds designated
to a specific area in hopes of more being accomplished. Mr.
Lysakowski stated that the Development Office has been
pretty successful with what is being done, and that there is
an evaluation at the end of the fiscal year. If there are left
over funds in certain areas, the funds would need to be
readjusted and transferred to other areas (i.e. public
improvements, urban development). He stated that a public
hearing is held to obtain comments from Lansing citizens so
that the City knows its direction based on the needs of the
citizens.
Ms. Stachowiak inquired about which department the new
center was affiliated with. Mr. McConnell stated that Human
Relations was overseeing the center. One of the items that
is needed by the new center is financial support. One of the
items in the budget is money for fair housing initiatives, and
he would like to see some of the funds used for the new
center.
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 17, 2004 Page 5
Mr. Lysakowski stated that the department did finally receive
allocation of these funds. The only adjustment from what
was presented at the UDC meeting is that there is
approximately an additional $2,500 in CDBG funds.
Mr. McConnell made a motion, seconded by Mr. Ruge, to recommend approval of
Proposed Objectives, Goals and Projected Use of Community Development Fund
Resources, including the Community Development Block Grant (CDBG), Home
and Emergency Shelter Programs, FY 2005 with the condition that the City offer
support for the new fair housing center.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Foster. . . Ave
Keene Ave Ruge. Ave
Cordill. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave McConnell Ave
On a roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED.
Next meeting, Tuesday, February 24, 2004, at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
3. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE - None.
4. EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE - None.
C. Report from Planning Manager
Ms. Stachowiak stated that if Board members have not already turned in
their evaluations, she would like to have them by the next meeting.
D. Pending Items: Future action required
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a Z-1-1998, 1223 N.Turner St.,"H" Light Industrial District to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled February 11, 1998)
b. SLU-3-2002, 2710 N. Grand River Ave., Church in the"F"Commercial District&
"J" Parking District(Tabled May 15, 2002)
2. Urban Development Committee
a. Act-9-2000, 201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj. Sign Over ROW (Tabled
June 27, 2000)
b. Capital Improvements Program (CIP), (Tabled March 25, 2003)
c. Master Plan Project
d. Act-1-2003, SE Corner Michigan &Washington, Lot 3, Block 111, Orig Plat,
Vacate Alley(part) (Tabled on April 29, 2003)
e. Act-1 4-2003, Conveyance of Bancroft Ct.Alley(Tabled on November 25,2003)
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planning Board
5. Board Member Code Enforcement Notification Reports
a. Teen Challenge-wood privacy fence (May 20,2003)
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 17, 2004 Page 6
b. Dollar Store-Willow Street&MLK Blvd.- landscaping &buffering (May 20, 2003)
c. Grovenburg property-dumpster in ROW(July 1,2003)
d. 4831 Eastlawn Drive-huge garage (August 19,2003)
e. Pryor's Towing-time frame for completion of conditions (September 3,2003)
f. Super Wheel Auto Sales-S.Cedar Street, South of Mt. Hope-heavy equipment
taken off dirt&placed in parking area over gas easement(September 10,2003)
g. Grand River-weird truck(September 10,2003)
h. Muffler Man, Jolly&MLK-cars for sale(January 6,2004)
i. 2714 W.Jolly Road-church with large statue in front yard (January 20, 2004)
j. Jolly Road-tree trimming business operated from a home (January 20,2004)
8. NEW BUSINESS
A. Proposed Amendments to the Planning Board Rules of
Administrative Procedure
Ms. Stachowiak stated that there has not been more than three members
on the Zoning and Ordinance Committee for a long time. At one time t
there were four members on the Urban Development Committee. This
creates a problem when one Board member is absent. There have been
a few situations where there was not a quorum and the members who
were present were not able to take action. Under the proposed
amendment, instead of three members being a majority of the four, it
would take a majority of the seated quorum in order to make decisions.
From this, instead of taking three people to make decisions for the
Committee, two would be able to make decisions if there were only three
members total on the Committee. Whatever the Board decides is final.
This would not go before City Council.
Ms. Cordill inquired about the new information being different from what
was in the packet. Ms. Stachowiak stated that the new information was
written differently.
Mr. McConnell stated that in a discussion with Mr. Rieske the issue had
come up before but no action was taken. He mentioned absentee voting
and if a member was not present at a meeting could still vote on a
particular issue. He is not sure whether or not this could be interjected in
conjunction with the administrative procedure. Ms. Stachowiak stated that
there does not need to be action taken this evening, and that the issue
could be addressed at the next meeting if Board members are not
prepared to take action.
Mr. Frederick inquired about the absentee voting. Ms. Keene stated that
she picks up information from the audience and other Committee
members that she had not thought about. She believes that it is important
to have the deliberation process. Mr. McConnell stated that by not being
in attendance, one would not have the whole picture. Ms. Stachowiak
stated that this type of voting has never been done. Mr. Ruge stated that
it could be a workable idea if a person could by telephone listen to the
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 17, 2004 Page 7
meeting and take part in it. He agreed that a lot of information is picked
up at the meetings. Ms. Stachowiak stated that someone could be placed
on speaker phone but she was not sure of how well the discussion would
be picked up. Mr. Frederick stated that he has done this before and if two
people were absent then two speakers would need to be set up. In his
experience, it was never as good as being present at the meeting to have
the interaction between the applicants and staff. There is always more
information that keeps surfacing.
Ms. Foster inquired about what would happen if only two members were
on the Committee. This would almost allow the Boards to become
smaller. There needs to be something to say that the Boards need to be
filled. She stated that there should be a time limit. Mr. Frederick stated
that this is only for the Committees and not the Planning Board. The only
alternative, if there are not enough people in attendance at the Committee
to make a recommendation to the full Board, then the options would be to
convene to the Committee of the Whole or have the Committee meeting
before the Board meeting and hope for everyone to be in attendance. Ms.
Foster stated that the Committee should have four members so that if one
member is absent, it would not be big deal. Currently, there are only three
Committee members and when one is absent, it becomes a bigger issue.
She believes that because there is not a full Board it is more of a problem.
Mr. Frederick stated that there have always been three Committee
members, even when there was a full Board. Mr. Ruge stated that he
remembers when there were eight Board members and there were four
members on each Committee. Ms. Keene stated that when she started on
the Board, there were eight members and four members on each
Committee. Ms. Foster stated that there needs to be something written
forcing the Mayor's Office to take action. Ms. Stachowiak stated that it
could be written to have not less than two members constitute a majority.
She also stated that the Board could ask that their concerns regarding
membership on the Board be sent to the Mayor's Office. A letter on behalf
of the Board can be drafted and sent to the Mayor. Ms. Stachowiak stated
that there are no time constraints for action on this item. Mr. Frederick
stated that he was in agreement with sending the Board's concerns to the
Mayor's Office. If there are not enough members on the Board and there
is no quorum, then business slows down. This is not good for the City.
Citizens would become annoyed and they should expect a prompt flow of
business. Even if the application is denied, citizens should know where
they are in the process. Ms. Cordill stated that one of the concerns was a
Committee not being able to meet, and she appreciated Mr. Frederick
sitting in on her behalf when she couldn't make the last meeting. Because
there are only three members on the Committee and the existing language
is such that there needs to be three members for a quorum, she inquired
about adding a stop-gap now so that at least two out of three members
would be able to forward a recommendation to the Mayor's Office. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that business needs to be done. Ms. Foster agreed.
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 17, 2004 Page 8
Ms. Keene stated that the Board needs to keep business moving and that
she values the input from the audience. There is not as much input when
there are only two Committee members versus having three members.
There are not enough ears and eyes to review the information.
Ms. Cordill made a motion, seconded by Mr. Frederick to approve the Proposed
Amendments to the Planning Board Rules of Administrative Procedure with the
condition that the maximum membership would be four and that the minimum
membership would be two. On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0).
Mr. Ruge stated that under the Committee of the Whole, it should read
consistent with the majority of the total City board membership instead of
community membership. He stated that community membership would be
whoever is present at the time.
Ms. Cordill inquired about the purpose of the Committee of the Whole.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that every case has to go through a Committee.
There have been a few instances where the Zoning and Ordinance
Committee could not meet. Rather than delaying the case until the next
month when the Committee can meet, it is brought to Committee of the
Whole for discussion. Mr. Frederick stated that ordinarily the Committee
of the Whole meets when the whole Board is seated. When there is not a
majority seated, then the Committee of the Whole could not meet. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that the same rules apply as they would for the entire
Board. If there is no majority of the Board, then a meeting could not be
held.
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON — None.
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS — None.
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS
Mr. McConnell inquired about the Code Member Notification Reports and
updates from the department and stated that lately there has been some
slacking. Ms. Stachowiak stated that she gave an update at the last meeting but
Mr. McConnell was not present. She stated that she will have more information
at the next meeting.
Mr. Ruge stated that the weird truck on Grand River has been moved. It is still in
the same area. It used to be parked at an angle but now has been parked
straight in so that the nose of the vehicle faces the street.
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 17, 2004 Page 9
Mr. McConnell inquired about updates from the last meeting and if Ms.
Stachowiak had the correspondence with her. Ms. Stachowiak stated that she
did not have the correspondence with her and that the items had been stricken
off the agenda pending list. Mr. Frederick stated that it was the sign being
constructed on the grounds of the Beekman School. He stated that the school
did have a permit for the sign.
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 7:47 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
PB Minutes.021704.doc
Approved as written 2-17-04 Draft to Clerk February 4,2004
Approved February 17,2004
To Clerk February 19,2004
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, February 3, 2004
1. OPENING SESSION
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Ms. Cordill, Vice Chair.
A. Roll call: Present: Frederick, Keene, Cordill.
B. Staff Attending: Stachowiak.
C. Excused absences: Ruge, Foster, McConnell.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that the Planning Board does not have a quorum and
therefore, the members who are present will only be holding the scheduled
public hearing and taking public comments. She further stated that no action
would be taken at this meeting.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA- None.
3. COMMUNICATIONS - None.
4. HEARINGS
A. Z-1-2004, 3200 N. Grand River, "A" Residential District to "D-1"
Professional District
This is a request by Daniel Korrey to rezone the property at 3200 N.
Grand River from "A" Residential District to "D-1" Professional Office
District. The purpose of the rezoning is to bring the existing use of the
building as an office into compliance with the Zoning Ordinance. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that the Planning Board previously granted a Class A,
NCU on the property, and as a condition of approval, required that part of
the house remain residential. She said that this condition has been
fulfilled.
Ms. Stachowiak gave a brief overview.
Mr. Daniel Korrey, 3200 N. Grand River Avenue, spoke in support of his
request and stated that he is a general contractor.
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 3, 2004 Page 2
Ms. Cordill inquired about whether or not Mr. Korrey keeps any
construction vehicles, equipment or materials on the property. Mr. Korrey
stated that the only vehicles on the property are his own and that he has a
site elsewhere where he keeps his supplies and equipment. Mr. Korrey
also stated that his employees come to this site to pick up their paychecks
and that there is not much traffic generated by this use.
Ms. Cordill inquired about Mr. Korrey living in the house. Mr. Korrey
stated that he does live in the house.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak, Ms. Cordill closed the public
hearing.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (5 minutes each)
Seeing no one wishing to address the Board, Ms. Cordill closed the public
comment period.
6. RECESS - None.
7. BUSINESS SESSION - None.
8. NEW BUSINESS - None.
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON - None.
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS - None.
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS - None.
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 7:10 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
MN.020304.wpd
Draft to Clerk February 4, 2004
Approved 2004
To Clerk 2004
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, February 3, 2004
1. OPENING SESSION
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Ms. Cordill, Vice Chair.
A. Roll call: Present: Frederick, Keene, Cordill.
B. Staff Attending: Stachowiak.
C. Excused absences: Ruge, Foster, McConnell.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that the Planning Board does not have a quorum and
therefore, the members who are present will only be holding the scheduled
public hearing and taking public comments. She further stated that no action
would be taken at this meeting.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA - None.
3. COMMUNICATIONS - None.
4. HEARINGS
A. Z-1-2004, 3200 N. Grand River, "A" Residential District to
Professional District
This is a request by Daniel Korrey to rezone the property at 3200 N.
Grand River from "A" Residential District to "D-1" Professional Office
District. The purpose of the rezoning is to bring the existing use of the
building as an office into compliance with the Zoning Ordinance. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that the Planning Board previously granted a Class A,
NCU on the property, and as a condition of approval, required that part of
the house remain residential. She said that this condition has been
fulfilled.
Ms. Stachowiak gave a brief overview.
Mr. Daniel Korrey, 3200 N. Grand River Avenue, spoke in support of his
request and stated that he is a general contractor.
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES February 3, 2004 Page 2
Ms. Cordill inquired about whether or not Mr. Korrey keeps any
construction vehicles, equipment or materials on the property. Mr. Korrey
stated that the only vehicles on the property are his own and that he has a
site elsewhere where he keeps his supplies and equipment. Mr. Korrey
also stated that his employees come to this site to pick up their paychecks
and that there is not much traffic generated by this use.
Ms. Cordill inquired about Mr. Korrey living in the house. Mr. Korrey
stated that he does live in the house.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak, Ms. Cordill closed the public
hearing.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (5 minutes each)
Seeing no one wishing to address the Board, Ms. Cordill closed the public
comment period.
6. RECESS - None.
7. BUSINESS SESSION - None.
8. NEW BUSINESS - None.
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON - None.
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS - None.
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS - None.
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 7:10 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
MN.020304.wpd
Draft to Clerk January 28,2004
Approved 2004
To Clerk 2004
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers t....
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, January 20, 2004 ,
1. OPENING SESSION r -
0
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Ms. Foster, Chair.
A. Roll call: Present: Frederick, Keene, Foster, Ruge, Cordill, McConnell
(McConnell arrived at approximately 7:20 p.m.).
B. Staff Attending: Stachowiak, Rieske
C. Excused absences: None.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Mr. Ruge to approve the agenda. On
a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (5-0).
3. COMMUNICATIONS - None.
4. HEARINGS
A. Act-14-2003, Conveyance of Bancroft Ct. Alley
This is a request by Mr. Eugene Townsend, 521 Leitram Street that the City
vacate the eastern half of Bancroft Court alley and attach it to his adjoining
parcel (PPN 3301-01-17-229-353) at 521 Leitram Street.
The applicant filed this request in order to provide off-street parking for 3
properties (519 and 521 Leitram Street, and 737 Bancroft Court) and
enhance these parking spots with brick pavers.
Mr. Ruge inquired about easements and if the easements will need to be
obtained in order to provide joint access for the properties involved. Mr.
Rieske stated that Transportation has recommended a joint maintenance
agreement and that the easements for utilities and access will have to be
obtained.
Ms. Ruth Hallman, resident of 1014 W. Lapeer, stated that she submitted
a letter outlining the Genesee Neighborhood Association's (GNA)concerns.
She approves of the work that has been done to the homes, and that the
people who are occupying these homes are fine people. She is concerned
about the work that has been done to the alley without proper permits, and
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expressed additional concerns about the houses becoming rentals because
there are no driveways which would force people to park in the front yards.
She stated that there is no access way for an ambulance to get to 737
Bancroft.
Mr. Ruge inquired about the Genesee Neighborhood Association discussing
any possible solutions to these issues. Ms. Hallman stated that no solutions
were discussed.
Ms. Keene inquired about how many members of the GNA were present at
the meeting when this issue was voted upon. Ms. Hallman stated that there
were approximately 20 members present.
Ms. Jessica Yorko, resident of 521 Lietram, stated that she is a partner to
Gene Townsend, applicant for this request. She stated that parking for 737
Bancroft is on the north side of 738 Bancroft and that only the south side of
Bancroft alley has been bricked. The north side, which is the subject of this
request, has not been altered.
Mr. Ruge inquired about parking and how it will work if there are 7 to 8 cars
in the lot. Ms. Yorko stated with everyone parking at an angle, they are able
to pull in and back out of a parking space without any difficulty.
Mr. Ruge asked if using the area behind 519 Lietram for parking had been
considered. Ms. Yorko stated that it had been considered. However, it was
decided that this area would be better used as a community garden.
Mr. Michael Hamlin, resident of 732 W. Genesee, stated that the total
space available for this project is more than enough to accommodate parking
for everyone involved and that the project will provide more parking for these
homes than most of the other homes in the Genesee neighborhood area.
Ms. Elaine Gates, resident of 525 Lietram, stated that she wrote a letter
to the Planning Board expressing her opposition to this request. She stated
that there was a garage and a driveway located at 737 Bancroft that provided
room for 4 cars and that this project is not in the best interests for the
Genesee neighborhood. She also stated that the alley abuts her property
and it would be very noisy having people start thier cars at night and in the
morning.
Ms. Sherry Brantley, resident of 510 Lietram, spoke in support of the
request. She stated that the parking situation is working and the group is
building a relationship with the neighborhood.
Mr. MC Rothhorn, resident of 519 Lietram, stated that he and his wife are
partners in this project and he spoke in support of the request. He stated
that this project provides an opportunity for them to live in a place where they
can walk to their destinations rather than drive.
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Ms. Karen White, resident of 800 Bancroft, stated that she lives in the last
house on the east end of Bancroft Court and that she strongly supports this
request. She also stated that this is a vast improvement over the previous
situation.
Ms. Zhewei Dai, resident of 732 W. Genesee, spoke in support of the
request and stated that she believes this project is very positive for the
Genesee neighborhood area.
Ms. Keene inquired about howthe Fire Departmentwould access the houses
that are landlocked in the event of an emergency. She also inquired about
how parking was handled for 737 Bancroft when ACT-17-1996 was
approved.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak, Ms. Foster closed the public hearing
and referred this matter to the Urban Development Committee, scheduled
to meet on January 27, 2004 at 4:00 in the Planning and Neighborhood
Development Conference Room at 316 N. Capitol Avenue.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (5 minutes each)
Seeing no one wishing to address the Board, Ms. Foster closed the public comment
period.
6. RECESS was taken by the Board.
7. BUSINESS SESSION
A. Minutes for Approval
Mr. Frederick moved; seconded by Mr. McConnell to approve the minutes of
January 6, 2004 with the following correction:
Pg. 14, under item 10, first line, Ms. Cordill spoke about making curbs
handicapped accessible.
On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0). The minutes of
January 6, 2004 were
APPROVED.
B. Committee Reports
1. ZONING AND ORDINANCE COMMITTEE, Mr. Ruge, Chair
a. Z-14-2003, 2721 N. Grand River Avenue &Adjacent Vacant
Parcel to the West, "D-1" Professional Office, "A" & "DM-
1" Residential and "E-1" Apartment Shop Districts to "H"
Light Industrial District
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES January 20, 2004 Page 4
This is a request by Liebler Construction Inc., on behalf of the
owners, Gary Bauman and Alfred Buchner, to rezone the
properties at 2721 N. Grand River Avenue and the adjacent,
vacant parcel to the west from "D-1" Professional Office, "A" &
"DM-1" Residential and "E-1" Apartment Shop Districts to "H"
Light Industrial District. If approved, the applicant intends to
utilize the subject parcels for mini-storage.
Staff recommended denial of the request to rezone the
properties to "H" Light Industrial based upon it's inconsistency
with the Master Plan and surrounding land uses. It was further
recommended that the Committee consider the "G-2"
Wholesale District as an alternative.
In Committee, Ms. Wynant stated that the "G-2" Wholesale
District would also accommodate the proposed use and would
be more in line with the Master Plan, and that the southern half
of the subject properties are in a floodplain.
The Committee members expressed a concern about the
potential use of the 100 year floodplain for parking or storage.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that the Committee could consider
leaving the floodplain area in the "A" Residential District to
prevent any future use of this land for anything otherthan open
space or park land.
In Committee, the original request was recommended for
denial. However, a recommendation was made to approve a
rezoning of the entire parcel at 2721 N. Grand River and the
area north of the 100 year floodplain on the vacant parcel to
the west to "G-2" Wholesale District and the area within the
100 year floodplain on the vacant parcel to the west to "A"
Residential. On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously
(3-0).
Mr. Ed Liebler, 2611 N. Grand River, stated that he intends
to work with the Parks and Recreation Department regarding
the use of the land to the south for future extension of the river
trail. He stated that the river is one of Lansing's greatest
natural resources and that it should be protected. He agreed
with staff that the "G-2" Wholesale designation would be most
appropriate for this property and that the floodplain on the
parcel to the east was filled in during the sewer separation
project. He would like this area rezoned to "G-2" as well.
Mr. Ruge inquired about the location of the driveway. Mr.
Liebler stated that he envisions the driveway being located
near the west boundary of the subject properties and that the
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES January 20, 2004 Page 5
driveway location would need to be reviewed by the Public
Service and Transportation Offices.
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Mr. Frederick, to recommend denial of the original
request to rezone Z-14-2003, 2721 N. Grand River Avenue and the adjacent vacant
parcel to the west from "D-1" Professional Office, "A" & "DM-1" Residential and "E-
1" Apartment Shop Districts to "H" Light Industrial District; and to recommend
approval of rezoning the entire parcel at 2721 N. Grand River and the area north of
the 100 year floodplain on the vacant parcel to the west to "G-2" Wholesale District
and the area within the 100 year floodplain on the vacant parcel to the west to "A"
Residential.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Foster. . . Ave
Keene Ave Ruge. Aye
Cordill. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave McConnell . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
On a roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED.
b. Z-15-2003, West 69.75 feet of 5827, 5839 & 5901 S.
Pennsylvania, "J" Parking District to "H" Light Industrial
District
This is a request by Ledy Design Group Inc., on behalf of
Sonic Automotive to rezone the west 69.75 feet of the
properties at 5827, 5839 & 5901 S. Pennsylvania from "J"
Parking District to "H" Light Industrial District. If approved, the
applicant intends to construct a building addition that would
encroach into the existing area of the site that is currently
zoned "J" Parking.
Staff recommended approval of Z-15-2003, West 69.75 feet of
5827, 5839 & 5901 S. Pennsylvania, "J" Parking District to "H"
Light Industrial District.
In Committee, Ms. Foster inquired about the west 69.75 feet
and if it could be rezoned to "F" Commercial so that it would be
consistent with the master plan. Mr. Hodges stated that it is
unclear in the master plan as to how much area is planned for
commercial land use and that he is not sure what the intent of
the master plan was in designating the frontage as commercial
and the remainder of the property as "H" Light Industrial.
In Committee, Mr. Ruge inquired about what type of land uses
could potentially locate in the "H" Light Industrial District. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that the only land use in the "H" Light
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Industrial District that would be inappropriate to have near the
road would be a storage yard and that is a use that would
require a Special Land Use permit. Mr. Ruge stated that it
would be best to rezone the entire parcels to T" Commercial.
Mr. Frederick stated that determining the future land use
designation of these parcels could be handled during the
master plan process.
In Committee, Mr. Hodges stated that by rezoning the land,the
applicant would be required to install an 8-foot landscape
buffer along the entire road frontage of all three parcels. He
also stated that the applicant should not be displaying vehicles
in the "T Parking District and therefore, this rezoning would
remove an existing violation of the Zoning Ordinance.
In Committee,the requestwas recommended for approval and
the motion carried unanimously (3-0).
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Ms. Foster, to recommend approval of Z-15-2003,
West 69.75 feet of 5827, 5839 & 5901 S. Pennsylvania, "J" Parking District to "H"
Light Industrial District.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Foster. . . Ave
Keene Ave Ruge. Aye
Cordill. . . . . . . . . . . ... . . . . . . . . . . Ave McConnell . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
On a roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED.
C. Ordinance Amendment - Wellhead Protection/Site Plan
Review
Mr. Ruge stated that the Planning Board held a public hearing
on November 18, 2003 at which no one spoke regarding the
proposed amendments. He also stated that on December 10,
2003, the Zoning and Ordinance Committee voted
unanimously(3-0)to recommend approval of the amendments.
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Ms. Foster, to recommend approval of the
Ordinance Amendment -Wellhead Protection/Site Plan Review.
Frederick . . Ave Foster. . . Ave
Keene . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Ruge. . . Aye
Cordill. . . Aye McConnell . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
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On a roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED.
Next meeting, Wednesday, February 11, 2004, at 5:15 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
2. URBAN DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, Ms. Keene, Chair
Next meeting, Tuesday, January 27, 2004, at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
3. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE - None.
4. EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE - None.
C. Report from Planning Manager - None
D. Pending Items: Future action required
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a. Z-1-1998, 1223 N.Turner St.,"H"Light Industrial District to"G-1"Business District
(Tabled February 11, 1998)
b. SLU-3-2002,2710 N.Grand River Ave.,Church in the"F"Commercial District&"J"
Parking District(Tabled May 15, 2002)
2. Urban Development Committee
a. Act-9-2000, 201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj. Sign Over ROW (Tabled
June 27,2000)
b. Capital Improvements Program (CIP), (Tabled March 25,2003)
C. Master Plan Project
d. Act-1-2003,SE Corner Michigan&Washington,Lot 3,Block 111,Orig Plat,Vacate
Alley(part) (Tabled on April 29, 2003)
e. Act-14-2003, Conveyance of Bancroft Ct.Alley(Tabled on November 25,2003)
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planning Board
5. Board Member Code Enforcement Notification Reports
a. Teen Challenge-wood privacy fence(May 20, 2003)
b. Dollar Store-Willow Street&MILK Blvd.-landscaping&buffering (May 20,2003)
C. Grovenburg property-dumpster in ROW (July 1,2003)
d. 4831 Eastlawn Drive-huge garage(August 19, 2003)
e. Pryor's Towing-time frame for completion of conditions (September 3, 2003)
f. Super Wheel Auto Sales- S. Cedar Street, South of Mt. Hope- heavy equipment
taken off dirt&placed in parking area over gas easement(September 10,2003)
g. Grand River-weird truck(September 10, 2003)
h. Aurelius Road- Keeps Party Store-sign (November 5,2003)
i. Corner of Lathrop Street and Michigan Avenue- new party store-sign (November
5,2003)
j. North Pennsylvania-Neogen-front yard parking (November 5, 2003)
k. Beekman School-sign (January 6, 2004)
I. Muffler Man,Jolly& MLK-cars for sale(January 6,2004)
8. NEW BUSINESS - None
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON
Ms. Foster inquired about the status of the overlay zone. Ms. Stachowiak stated
that she expects it to be on the February Zoning & Ordinance Committee agenda
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES January 20, 2004 Page 8
for further discussion.
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Mr. Ruge requested an excused absence from the February 3, 2004 meeting.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene, to grant an excused
absence to Mr. Ruge for the February 3, 2004 Planning Board meeting. On a
voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0).
Mr. McConnell requested an excused absence from the February 3, 2004 meeting.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene, to grant an excused
absence to Mr. McConnell for the February 3, 2004 Planning Board meeting.
On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0).
Mr. Frederick asked Ms. Stachowiak to thank Scott Sanford for checking on the sign
at Keep's Party Store.
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS
Mr. Ruge stated that no cars are parking in the front yard of the Neogen site on N.
Pennsylvania site and that they are plowing the front yard.
Mr. McConnell stated that there is a house on W. Jolly that is being used for a
church and that there is a large statue in the front yard. Ms. Stachowiak stated that
she is familiar with the situation and is working with the Code Compliance Office to
have the matter corrected.
Mr. McConnell stated that there is a sign advertising wood for sale at a house on
Jolly Road and that the owners of the house built a new garage without a building
permit. They are operating a tree trimming business.
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 8:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
PB Minutes.012004.wpd
Approved as written 3-2-04 Draft to Clerk January 28,2004
Approved March 2,2004
To Clerk March 3,2004
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, January 20, 2004
1. OPENING SESSION —
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Ms. Foster, Chair. �21
v,
A. Roll call: Present: Frederick, Keene, Foster, Ruge, Cordill, McConnell
(McConnell arrived at approximately 7:20 p.m.).
B. Staff Attending: Stachowiak, Rieske
C. Excused absences: None.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Mr. Ruge to approve the agenda. On
a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (5-0).
3. COMMUNICATIONS - None.
4. HEARINGS
A. Act-14-2003, Conveyance of Bancroft Ct. Alley
This is a request by Mr. Eugene Townsend, 521 Leitram Street that the City
vacate the eastern half of Bancroft Court alley and attach it to his adjoining
parcel (PPN 3301-01-17-229-353) at 521 Leitram Street.
The applicant filed this request in order to provide off-street parking for 3
properties (519 and 521 Leitram Street, and 737 Bancroft Court) and
enhance these parking spots with brick pavers.
Mr. Ruge inquired about easements and if the easements will need to be
obtained in order to provide joint access for the properties involved. Mr.
Rieske stated that Transportation has recommended a joint maintenance
agreement and that the easements for utilities and access will have to be
obtained.
Ms. Ruth Hallman, resident of 1014 W. Lapeer, stated that she submitted
a letter outlining the Genesee Neighborhood Association's (GNA)concerns.
She approves of the work that has been done to the homes, and that the
people who are occupying these homes are fine people. She is concerned
about the work that has been done to the alley without proper permits, and
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES January 20, 2004 Page 2
expressed additional concerns about the houses becoming rentals because
there are no driveways which would force people to park in the front yards.
She stated that there is no access way for an ambulance to get to 737
Bancroft.
Mr. Ruge inquired about the Genesee Neighborhood Association discussing
any possible solutions to these issues. Ms. Hallman stated that no solutions
were discussed.
Ms. Keene inquired about how many members of the GNA were present at
the meeting when this issue was voted upon. Ms. Hallman stated that there
were approximately 20 members present.
Ms. Jessica Yorko, resident of 521 Lietram, stated that she is a partner to
Gene Townsend, applicant for this request. She stated that parking for 737
Bancroft is on the north side of 738 Bancroft and that only the south side of
Bancroft alley has been bricked. The north side, which is the subject of this
request, has not been altered.
Mr. Ruge inquired about parking and how it will work if there are 7 to 8 cars
in the lot. Ms. Yorko stated with everyone parking at an angle, they are able
to pull in and back out of a parking space without any difficulty.
Mr. Ruge asked if using the area behind 519 Lietram for parking had been
considered. Ms. Yorko stated that it had been considered. However, it was
decided that this area would be better used as a community garden.
Mr. Michael Hamlin, resident of 732 W. Genesee, stated that the total
space available forthis project is more than enough to accommodate parking
for everyone involved and that the project will provide more parking for these
homes than most of the other homes in the Genesee neighborhood area.
Ms. Elaine Gates, resident of 525 Lietram, stated that she wrote a letter
to the Planning Board expressing her opposition to this request. She stated
that there was a garage and a driveway located at 737 Bancroft that provided
room for 4 cars and that this project is not in the best interests for the
Genesee neighborhood. She also stated that the alley abuts her property
and it would be very noisy having people start thier cars at night and in the
morning.
Ms. Sherry Brantley, resident of 510 Lietram, spoke in support of the
request. She stated that the parking situation is working and the group is
building a relationship with the neighborhood.
Mr. MC Rothhorn, resident of 519 Lietram, stated that he and his wife are
partners in this project and he spoke in support of the request. He stated
that this project provides an opportunity for them to live in a place where they
can walk to their destinations rather than drive.
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Ms. Karen White, resident of 800 Bancroft, stated that she lives in the last
house on the east end of Bancroft Court and that she strongly supports this
request. She also stated that this is a vast improvement over the previous
situation.
Ms. Zhewei Dai, resident of 732 W. Genesee, spoke in support of the
request and stated that she believes this project is very positive for the
Genesee neighborhood area.
Ms. Keene inquired about howthe Fire Departmentwould access the houses
that are landlocked in the event of an emergency. She also inquired about
how parking was handled for 737 Bancroft when ACT-17-1996 was
approved.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak, Ms. Foster closed the public hearing
and referred this matter to the Urban Development Committee, scheduled
to meet on January 27, 2004 at 4:00 in the Planning and Neighborhood
Development Conference Room at 316 N. Capitol Avenue.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (5 minutes each)
Seeing no one wishing to address the Board, Ms. Foster closed the public comment
period.
6. RECESS was taken by the Board.
7. BUSINESS SESSION
A. Minutes for Approval
Mr. Frederick moved; seconded by Mr. McConnell to approve the minutes of
January 6, 2004 with the following correction:
Pg. 14, under item 10, first line, Ms. Cordill spoke about making curbs
handicapped accessible.
On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0). The minutes of
January 6, 2004 were
APPROVED.
B. Committee Reports
1. ZONING AND ORDINANCE COMMITTEE, Mr. Ruge, Chair
a. Z-14-2003,2721 N. Grand River Avenue&Adjacent Vacant
Parcel to the West, "D-1" Professional Office, "A" & "DM-
1" Residential and "E-1" Apartment Shop Districts to "H"
Light Industrial District
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES January 20, 2004 Page 4
This is a request by Liebler Construction Inc., on behalf of the
owners, Gary Bauman and Alfred Buchner, to rezone the
properties at 2721 N. Grand River Avenue and the adjacent,
vacant parcel to the west from "D-1" Professional Office, "A" &
"DM-1" Residential and "E-1" Apartment Shop Districts to "H"
Light Industrial District. If approved, the applicant intends to
utilize the subject parcels for mini-storage.
Staff recommended denial of the request to rezone the
properties to "H" Light Industrial based upon it's inconsistency
with the Master Plan and surrounding land uses. It was further
recommended that the Committee consider the "G-2"
Wholesale District as an alternative.
In Committee, Ms. Wynant stated that the "G-2" Wholesale
District would also accommodate the proposed use and would
be more in line with the Master Plan, and that the southern half
of the subject properties are in a floodplain.
The Committee members expressed a concern about the
potential use of the 100 year floodplain for parking or storage.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that the Committee could consider
leaving the floodplain area in the "A" Residential District to
prevent any future use of this land for anything other than open
space or park land.
In Committee, the original request was recommended for
denial. However, a recommendation was made to approve a
rezoning of the entire parcel at 2721 N. Grand River and the
area north of the 100 year floodplain on the vacant parcel to
the west to "G-2" Wholesale District and the area within the
100 year floodplain on the vacant parcel to the west to "A"
Residential. On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously
(3-0).
Mr. Ed Liebler, 2611 N. Grand River, stated that he intends
to work with the Parks and Recreation Department regarding
the use of the land to the south for future extension of the river
trail. He stated that the river is one of Lansing's greatest
natural resources and that it should be protected. He agreed
with staff that the "G-2"Wholesale designation would be most
appropriate for this property and that the floodplain on the
parcel to the east was filled in during the sewer separation
project. He would like this area rezoned to "G-2" as well.
Mr. Ruge inquired about the location of the driveway. Mr.
Liebler stated that he envisions the driveway being located
near the west boundary of the subject properties and that the
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES January 20, 2004 Page 5
driveway location would need to be reviewed by the Public
Service and Transportation Offices.
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Mr. Frederick, to recommend denial of the original
request to rezone Z-14-2003, 2721 N. Grand River Avenue and the adjacent vacant
parcel to the west from "D-1" Professional Office, "A" & "DM-1" Residential and "E-
1" Apartment Shop Districts to "H" Light Industrial District; and to recommend
approval of rezoning the entire parcel at 2721 N. Grand River and the area north of
the 100 year floodplain on the vacant parcel to the west to "G-2" Wholesale District
and the area within the 100 year floodplain on the vacant parcel to the west to "A"
Residential.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Foster. . . Ave
Keene . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Ruge. . . Ave
Cordill. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave McConnell . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
On a roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED.
b. Z-15-2003, West 69.75 feet of 5827, 5839 & 5901 S.
Pennsylvania, "J" Parking District to "H" Light Industrial
District
This is a request by Ledy Design Group Inc., on behalf of
Sonic Automotive to rezone the west 69.75 feet of the
properties at 5827, 5839 & 5901 S. Pennsylvania from "J"
Parking District to "H" Light Industrial District. If approved,the
applicant intends to construct a building addition that would
encroach into the existing area of the site that is currently
zoned "J" Parking.
Staff recommended approval of Z-15-2003,West 69.75 feet of
5827, 5839 & 5901 S. Pennsylvania, "J" Parking District to "H"
Light Industrial District.
In Committee, Ms. Foster inquired about the west 69.75 feet
and if it could be rezoned to "F" Commercial so that it would be
consistent with the master plan. Mr. Hodges stated that it is
unclear in the master plan as to how much area is planned for
commercial land use and that he is not sure what the intent of
the master plan was in designating the frontage as commercial
and the remainder of the property as "H" Light Industrial.
In Committee, Mr. Ruge inquired about what type of land uses
could potentially locate in the "H" Light Industrial District. Ms.
Stachowiak stated that the only land use in the "H" Light
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES January 20, 2004 Page 6
Industrial District that would be inappropriate to have near the
road would be a storage yard and that is a use that would
require a Special Land Use permit. Mr. Ruge stated that it
would be best to rezone the entire parcels to T" Commercial.
Mr. Frederick stated that determining the future land use
designation of these parcels could be handled during the
master plan process.
In Committee, Mr. Hodges stated that by rezoning the land,the
applicant would be required to install an 8-foot landscape
buffer along the entire road frontage of all three parcels. He
also stated that the applicant should not be displaying vehicles
in the "J" Parking District and therefore, this rezoning would
remove an existing violation of the Zoning Ordinance.
In Committee,the request was recommended for approval and
the motion carried unanimously (3-0).
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Ms. Foster, to recommend approval of Z-15-2003,
West 69.75 feet of 5827, 5839 & 5901 S. Pennsylvania, "J" Parking District to "H"
Light Industrial District.
Frederick . . Ave Foster. . . Ave
Keene . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Ruge. . . Ave
Cordill. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave McConnell . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
On a roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED.
C. Ordinance Amendment - Wellhead Protection/Site Plan
Review
Mr. Ruge stated that the Planning Board held a public hearing
on November 18, 2003 at which no one spoke regarding the
proposed amendments. He also stated that on December 10,
2003, the Zoning and Ordinance Committee voted
unanimously(3-0)to recommend approval of the amendments.
Mr. Ruge made a motion, seconded by Ms. Foster, to recommend approval of the
Ordinance Amendment -Wellhead Protection/Site Plan Review.
Frederick Ave Foster. Ave
Keene Ave Ruge. Aye
Cordill. Ave McConnell Ave
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES January 20, 2004 Page 7
On a roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED.
Next meeting, Wednesday, February 11, 2004, at 5:15 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
2. URBAN DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, Ms. Keene, Chair
Next meeting, Tuesday, January 27, 2004, at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
3. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE - None.
4. EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE - None.
C. Report from Planning Manager- None
D. Pending Items: Future action required
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a. Z-1-1998, 1223 N.Turner St.,"H"Light Industrial District to"G-1"Business District
(Tabled February 11, 1998)
b. SLU-3-2002,2710 N.Grand River Ave.,Church in the"F"Commercial District&"J"
Parking District(Tabled May 15,2002)
2. Urban Development Committee
a. Act-9-2000, 201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj. Sign Over ROW (Tabled
June 27, 2000)
b. Capital Improvements Program (CIP), (Tabled March 25, 2003)
C. Master Plan Project
d. Act-1-2003,SE Corner Michigan&Washington,Lot 3,Block 111,Orig Plat,Vacate
Alley(part)(Tabled on April 29,2003)
e. Act-14-2003, Conveyance of Bancroft Ct.Alley(Tabled on November 25,2003)
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planning Board
5. Board Member Code Enforcement Notification Reports
a. Teen Challenge-wood privacy fence(May 20, 2003)
b. Dollar Store-Willow Street&MLK Blvd.-landscaping& buffering (May 20,2003)
C. Grovenburg property-dumpster in ROW (July 1, 2003)
d. 4831 Eastlawn Drive-huge garage(August 19,2003)
e. Pryor's Towing-time frame for completion of conditions(September 3,2003)
f. Super Wheel Auto Sales- S. Cedar Street, South of Mt. Hope- heavy equipment
taken off dirt&placed in parking area over gas easement(September 10,2003)
g. Grand River-weird truck(September 10,2003)
h. Aurelius Road- Keeps Party Store-sign (November 5,2003)
i. Corner of Lathrop Street and Michigan Avenue- new party store-sign (November
5,2003)
j. North Pennsylvania-Neogen-front yard parking (November 5,2003)
k. Beekman School-sign (January 6,2004)
I. Muffler Man, Jolly&MLK-cars for sale(January 6, 2004)
8. NEW BUSINESS - None
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON
Ms. Foster inquired about the status of the overlay zone. Ms. Stachowiak stated
that she expects it to be on the February Zoning & Ordinance Committee agenda
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES January 20, 2004 Page 8
for further discussion.
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Mr. Ruge requested an excused absence from the February 3, 2004 meeting.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene, to grant an excused
absence to Mr. Ruge for the February 3, 2004 Planning Board meeting. On a
voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0).
Mr. McConnell requested an excused absence from the February 3, 2004 meeting.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene, to grant an excused
absence to Mr. McConnell for the February 3, 2004 Planning Board meeting.
On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0).
Mr. Frederick asked Ms. Stachowiak to thank Scott Sanford for checking on the sign
at Keep's Party Store.
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS
Mr. Ruge stated that there are no cars parking in the front yard of the Neogen site
on N. Pennsylvania and that they are plowing the front yard.
Mr. McConnell stated that there is a house on W. Jolly that is being used for a
church and that there is a large statue in the front yard. Ms. Stachowiak stated that
she is familiar with the situation and is working with the Code Compliance Office to
have the matter corrected.
Mr. McConnell stated that there is a sign advertising wood for sale at a house on
Jolly Road and that the owners of the house built a new garage without a building
permit. They are operating a tree trimming business.
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 8:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
J
ames A. Ruff 'Secretary, Planning Board
PB Minutes.012004.wpd
APPROVED WITH CORRECTIONS: Draft to Clerk January 14,2004
PG 14, under item 10, 1ST LINE, "homes and facilities"s/b"curbs" Approved January 20,2004
To Clerk January 28,2004
Minutes of the Regular Meeting
LANSING PLANNING BOARD
7:00 p.m., Tenth Floor, Council Chambers
Lansing City Hall
Tuesday, January 6, 2004 =
1. OPENING SESSION
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Ms. Foster, Chair.
A. Roll call: Present: Frederick, Keene, Foster, Ruge, McConnell, Cordill.
B. Staff Attending: Stachowiak, Rieske, Witherspoon
C. Excused absences: None.
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to approve the agenda.
On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0).
3. COMMUNICATIONS - None.
4. HEARINGS
A. Z-14-2003, 2721 N. Grand River Avenue & Adjacent Vacant Parcel to
the West, "D-1" Professional Office, "A" & "DM-1" Residential and
"E-1" Apartment Shop Districts to "H" Light Industrial District
This is a request by Liebler Construction Inc., on behalf of the owners,
Gary Bauman and Alfred Buchner, to rezone the properties at 2721 N.
Grand River Avenue and the adjacent, vacant parcel to the west from "D-
1" Professional Office, "A" & "DM-1" Residential and "E-1" Apartment
Shop Districts to "H" Light Industrial District. If approved, the applicant
intends to utilize the subject parcels for mini-storage.
Mr. Ruge asked why the property has "E-1" zoning. Ms. Stachowiak
stated that it is an unusual location for "E-1" zoning and she is not sure
why this property was zoned as such.
Mr. Frederick asked if the existing storage buildings were in the floodplain.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that she would find out.
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Mr. Ed Liebler, resident of 2611 N. Grand River, stated that he would
like to increase the existing mini-storage business to the east of these
properties and that these properties have been on the real estate market
for more than 15 years. These properties have not been used. He also
stated that he is willing to work with the City on the rivertrail at the south
end of his property along the Grand River.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak, Ms. Foster closed the public
hearing, and referred Z-14-03 to the Zoning and Ordinance Committee,
scheduled to meet on January 14, 2004 at 5:15 in the Planning and
Neighborhood Development Conference Room at 316 N. Capitol Avenue.
B. Z-15-2003, 5827, 5839 & 5901 S. Pennsylvania, "J" Parking District to
"H" Light Industrial District
This is a request by Ledy Design Group Inc., on behalf of Sonic
Automotive to rezone the west 69.75 feet of the properties at 5827, 5839
& 5901 S. Pennsylvania Avenue from "J" Parking District to "H" Light
Industrial District. If approved, the applicant intends to construct a
building addition that would encroach into the existing area of the site that
is currently zoned "J" Parking.
Ms. Foster asked if the frontage could be rezoned to "F" Commercial to be
consistent with the Master Plan. Ms. Stachowiak stated that a complete
analysis of this request would be prepared for the Zoning and Ordinance
Committee meeting.
Mr. David Starr, Ledy Design Group, 3115 Pine Tree Road, spoke in
support of his request.
Mr. Patrick Lind, 5821 S. Pennsylvania Avenue, stated that he owns the
property directly across from the property that is the subject of this
request. He stated that he is supportive of the applicants request, so long
as this request does not result in a rezoning of his property.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak, Ms. Foster closed the public hearing
and referred Z-15-03 to the Zoning and Ordinance Committee, scheduled
to meet on January 14, 2004 at 5:15 in the Planning and Neighborhood
Development Conference Room at 316 N. Capitol Avenue.
C. Proposed Objectives, Goals and Projected Use of Community
Development Fund Resources, including the Community
Development Block Grant (CDBG), Home and Emergency Shelter
Programs (ESG), FY 2005
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Mr. Jamie Czekai, 1000 S. Washington Avenue, stated that he
represents the Local Initiative Support Corporation (LISC) which provides
support and funding to other non-profits who are working to improve the
Lansing community. He provided background information on the
development projects receiving funding. He thanked the City for its
support of this initiative.
Ms. Priscilla Holmes, 1105 S. Washington, stated that she is
representing Reo Town. She further stated that this organization is in
need of $20,000 for its continued improvements in the Reo Town area.
She talked briefly about the two major projects coming to Lansing in 2004:
the Michigan Parade and the Reo Centennial homecoming. Ms. Holmes
thanked the Planning Board for its support.
Ms. Beverly Wiener, 311 S. Jenison, representing Haven House,
thanked the City for it's past and future support of Haven House. She said
that this is a 28-bed facility which has provided shelter to people in the
Lansing area for the past 20 years. The average stay at Haven House is
just under 30 days. She also said that the goal of Haven House is to
assist families so that they can reach their goals. She thanked the City for
the support of ESG funding
Ms. Denise Pacquette, 1137 Haco Drive, stated that she represents
Habitat for Humanity which builds houses for low income families in the
Lansing area. The funding has help to build 10 houses in the Lansing
area. Ms. Pacquette thanked the City for it's past and future support of
Habitat for Humanity.
Ms. Denise Peek, 520 W. Ionia, stated that she represents the Lansing
Community Micro-Enterprise Fund (LCMF) which assist people interested
in opening small businesses in the Lansing area. Ms. Peek thanked the
City for it's past and continued support of CDBG funds.
Ms. Patty Jongkind, 1809 Osborn, representing Ballentine Stepping
Stone, a transitional housing program and the Greater Lansing Homeless
Resolution Network (GLHRN). Ms. Jongkind stated that GLHRN is a
coalition of local agencies and organizations working collaboratively to
address and reduce the causes of homelessness in the Lansing area.
She thanked the City for it's support in this endeavor.
Ms. Kate Koskinen, 1619 E. Kalamazoo, stated that she is representing
the Lansing Eastside Community Development Corporation (LECDC) and
the East Michigan Avenue project. Ms. Koskinen stated that these groups
are working with businesses and community groups to improve the East
Michigan corridor. She also stated that they have a grant program to help
property owners improve the appearance of their businesses along East
Michigan. Ms. Koskinen thanked the City for its support.
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES January 6, 2004 Page 4
Ms. Hazel Bethea, 1002 W. Shiawassee, stated that she is representing
the Genesee Neighborhood Association and the Capitol Neighborhood
Watch #120. She read a letter on behalf of Ms. Ruth Hallman,
Coordinator of these two organizations, stating that the Genesee
Neighborhood area is in need of funds for the neighborhood clean-up and
street closures. Also, the need to increase the budget for the Lansing
Neighborhood Council (LNC) was mentioned. Ms. Bethea thanked the
Board for the opportunity to speak and she submitted copies of the letter
from Ms. Hallman.
Ms. Joan Nelson, 1619 E. Kalamazoo, stated that she is representing
the Allen Neighborhood Center (ANC). Ms. Nelson submitted a letter to
the Board requesting $12,500 in pre-development funds for early design
work, a market/feasibility study, and site control of the Kircher Building on
Lansing's Eastside. Ms. Nelson stated that this project is pivotal to the
renewal and revitalization of the Eastside Neighborhood. Ms. Nelson
thanked the City for its anticipated support.
Mr. Gene Miller, 609 West Street, stated that he is representing Franklin
Street Community Housing Corporation (FSCHC) which is a non-profit
entity that restores/rehabilitates homes in the Lansing area. Mr. Miller
thanked the City for its continued and future support of FSCHC.
Mr. Al Swain, 1048 Pierpont, stated that he is representing the Capital
Area Center for Independent Living. Mr. Swain stated that it is important
that all facilities and homes are handicapped accessible as well as
visitable so that people with disabilities are not limited in where they can
go. He stated that his organization helps people who are disabled so that
they can live independently. He thanked the Board for the opportunity to
speak.
Ms. Monica Zuchowski, 320 N. Walnut, President of the Lansing
Neighborhood Council (LNC) Board, stated that the Board's continued
support of LNC is vital to Lansing's neighborhoods. Ms. Zuchowski stated
that there are currently 48 neighborhood organizations in the City of
Lansing and there are more being formed. She talked briefly about some
of the activities and stated that these organizations help keep Lansing's
neighborhoods vibrant and safe. She thanked the City for its past and
future support of LNC.
Ms. Judy Hackett, 625 N. Pennsylvania Avenue, representing the Oak
Park Neighborhood Association and the Lansing Neighborhood Council.
Ms. Hackett thanked the City for it's past support of Lansing's
neighborhood organizations and asked that this support continue in the
future as these organizations are important to Lansing's neighborhoods.
She also mentioned the need to increase the budget for the LNC.
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES January 6, 2004 Page 5
Mr. Walter Brown, 847 W. Willow, President of North Network Center,
spoke on behalf of the North Network Center. He is working with several
organizations and the police department on improvements in his
neighborhood. Mr. Brown requested $5,000 to start a GED program at the
center. He thanked the City for the programs provided in the Lansing
area.
Ms. Nancy Parsons, 430 N. Fairview, President of Eastside
Neighborhood Organization, spoke in favor of continued CDBG support
for Lansing's neighborhood organizations. She talked briefly about some
of the neighborhood organization's projects ( i.e. information and referral,
neighborhood clean-ups, etc) and other eastside projects in the area.
Ms. Laura Millard, 1232 Turner, stated that she is representing the Old
Town Commercial Association (OTCA). Ms. Millard stated that OTCA has
been working with the property owners in Old Town, which is Lansing's
oldest commercial district in the City, to improve the area and to keep this
a vibrant commercial district. She is requesting funding for operating and
staff support. She thanked the City for the programs provided in the
Lansing area.
Mr. Bill Houghtaling, 4824 Sycamore, stated that he is representing
Northtown Neighborhood Association. Mr. Houghtaling stated his support
for continued funding for Lansing's neighborhood organizations.
Ms. Cheryl Risner, 500 W. Lenawee, Executive Director, Lansing
Neighborhood Council (LNC) stated that the CDBG funding that is
received from the City is very important to the operations of the LNC. She
thanked the Board for its past and future support.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak, Ms. Foster closed the public hearing
and referred the Proposed Objectives, Goals and Projected Use of
Community Development Fund Resources, including the Community
Development Block Grant (CDBG), Home and Emergency Shelter
Programs (ESG), FY 2005 to the Urban Development Committee,
scheduled to meet on January 27, 2004 at 4:00 in the Planning and
Neighborhood Development Conference Room at 316 N. Capitol Avenue.
5. COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE (5 minutes each)
Seeing no one wishing to address the Board, Ms. Foster closed the public
comment period.
6. RECESS was taken by the Board.
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7. BUSINESS SESSION
A. Minutes for Approval
Mr. Frederick moved; seconded by Mr. McConnell to approve the minutes
of December 2, 2003 with the following correction:
Pg. 5, under section B, Committee Reports, Mr. McConnell delivered the
UDC report instead of Ms. Cordill as shown.
On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0). The minutes of
December 2, 2003 were
APPROVED.
B. Committee Reports
1. ZONING AND ORDINANCE COMMITTEE, Mr. Ruge, Chair
Next meeting, Wednesday, January 14, 2004, at 5:15 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
2. URBAN DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE, Ms. Keene, Chair
Next meeting, Tuesday, January 27, 2004, at 4:00 p.m.
316 N. Capitol Ave., Department Conference Room.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Cordill to dissolve into the Committee of
the Whole. On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0).
3a. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
a. Work Program FY 2004-2005
Ms. Stachowiak stated that the work program was
distributed at the dinner meeting in December. She stated
that staff is requesting that the work program be approved.
Ms. Foster stated that the work program should indicate that
more planning staff is needed so that projects like the
master plan can be accomplished. She also said that the
Preservation Planner position should be filled.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Foster to
recommend that the Preservation Planner position be filled.
On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0).
Ms. Foster made a motion, seconded by Mr. Frederick to
recommend that the City hire more professional planning
staff, recognizing that the master plan has been delayed for
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES January 6, 2004 Page 7
lack of staff time available to work on the project. On a
voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0).
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Foster to
approve the Work Program FY 2004-2005, with the
recommendations for hiring new staff. On a voice vote, the
motion carried unanimously (6-0).
b. Delta Township Plan
Mr. Rieske reviewed the comments contained in his letter.
Overall Document - The comprehensive plan document is
written in plain language, relatively free of jargon and
confusing acronyms. It has a readable format, with a
generous use of photos, text boxes, tables, and graphics,
some of which reinforce the message in a humorous
manner.
Section 1 - Community Profile - The plan includes a good
discussion of soils. A concluding paragraph which interprets
the information given would be a good enhancement,
particularly if it identified the most suitable soils for
agricultural preservation.
The discussion of transportation is split into several different
sections. The road network is under "infrastructure", transit
is under "public services", and nonmotorized is under parks
and open space, and on a map in Appendix B. It may be
useful to integrate these topics under a "transportation"
category, which would be able to address transportation,
and its relationship to land use, in a comprehensive manner.
Section 2 - Social Features - "Gender and age
distributions" and the aging of the population are covered
very well. The discussion of race (P. 26) is somewhat brief,
and would be enhanced by including persons of Hispanic
origin.
The discussion of housing occupancy on Page 29 includes
assertions about renters' vested interest in the community,
without supporting data. This information should be
provided, and may be available from the Community Opinion
Survey, mentioned in Section 4.
The discussions of "housing value" and "monthly gross
contract rent" note on Page 31 that high values and high
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rents are an indicator of quality (as well as supply and
demand). This section would be enhanced by including a
discussion of housing affordability and public or assisted
housing.
The first paragraph of Page 35 discusses the percent of the
Township's population employed in the service sector, and
asserts that many of these service sector jobs are probably
held by employees living elsewhere. This assertion is not
supported by the "employment by place of residence" data
on Page 34.
The discussion on travel times to work could be
strengthened by including transportation mode to and from
work.
Section 3 - Existing Land Use - Multiple-family residential
is missing from the discussion of land use classifications (P.
39).
Section 4 - Community Input - The township used a
community opinion survey, distributed in the Township's
Delta Magazine, and available at the public library and on
the web. Public workshops, public meetings, and public
hearings were also used. More documentation from these
efforts, perhaps including a copy of the survey instrument,
should be included in the appendix.
Page 52 of the plan states that a majority of the respondents
(45.7%) "strongly agree" that single family housing should be
encouraged. This may be a typographical error, or an error
of interpretation.
Section 5 - Goals and Objectives - The goals and
objectives are well stated - simple and understandable.
They proceed by subject matter, including Residential,
Commercial, Industrial, Public Services and Facilities, Land
Use Planning, Transportation, Open Space and Recreation,
and Environment. Although no vision statement was
provided in this section, the goals and objectives appear to
be based on the public input received.
Section 6 - Future Land Use - The plan states that new
residential development should be in clusters, to minimize
consumption of open space and farmland. Saginaw Street
will continue to be the primary commercial corridor, with
industrial uses concentrated toward the southern portion of
the township. The primary agricultural area is in the SW
quadrant of the township, presumably where the soils are
most suitable.
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The table on Page 77 shows the additional population and
housing units planned through the year 2020 by five-year
increment. The table on Page 79 reflects the existing and
projected land use acreage, their proportions, and the
projected change by acre and percent. While the
"Woodlands" share drops to zero, the future land use map
shows "Woodland Overlay Areas", which indicates
substantial areas of the township where efforts should be
taken to preserve woodlands regardless of land use. A
description of these efforts and safeguards might be an
appropriate addition.
Under "Recreation" the plan discusses the distribution of
parkland and providing more parkland in some underserved
areas. This could also be listed as an objective in Section 5.
Page 81 of the plan discusses the concept of "concurrency",
the staging of utility extensions and road improvements in
the same time frame as the development of the land. This
may reinforce the stated goals of controlled and managed
growth, cluster residential development and agricultural and
natural resource preservation.
The Future Land Use Map also shows the future water and
sanitary sewer service boundaries, which encompass
virtually the entire township. Showing a comparison
between the existing and future utility service areas may
also be helpful.
Section 7 - Implementation - The Implementation section
discusses such tools as public investment strategies,
intergovernmental cooperation, information and education,
the CIP, and the Regional Growth Project. It could be
enhanced by including a discussion of land use controls
(e.g., zoning and subdivision regulations) as important tools
for implementing the land use recommendations of the plan.
The Implementation Program table provides a lot of good
information in a succinct and understandable format, and
provides clear direction for the completion of the plan's
recommendations.
The mention of the Regional Growth project in this section
appears to be obsolete, and could be strengthened. The
Township plan notes that local jurisdictions are making land
use decisions with little oversight and coordination. The
Regional Growth project is nearing completion, and the
transportation goals, objectives, and recommendations have
been finalized and approved in the Regional 2025
Transportation Plan.
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Appendices - Appendix A lists the responses to open-
ended survey questions. Perhaps other documentation of
public participation could be included here.
The Planning Board members made the following
comments:
The existing land use map would be strengthened by
depicting the existing water and sanitary sewer service
boundaries, to allow a comparison with the service areas on
the future land use map.
The plan states that it supports all modes of transportation.
It might be strengthened by providing recommendations
concerning transit and nonmotorized transportation among
the separated land uses within the township.
The Board suggested that the staging of development be
depicted on the Future Land Use map.
The relationship between the Township's plan and the
Regional Growth project should be discussed and
reinforced. The Board strongly suggested greater
adherence to the Regional Growth and Regional 2025
Transportation Plan, including the regional vision, themes
and principles, the transportation goals and objectives, and
recommendations, including a greater emphasis on the
staging of development according to priority areas, and
transit and nonmotorized modes of transportation.
The Board also suggested that the plan encourage
coordination of service by the transit providers, improved
service to trip generators throughout the Township, and the
incorporation of transit in future development hubs.
Ms. Keene made a motion, seconded by Mr. McConnell to
submit the comments prepared by Mr. Rieske as well as
those provided by the Planning Board at this meeting, to
Delta Township in response to their request for comments
on the proposed Comprehensive Plan. On a voice vote, the
motion carried unanimously (6-0).
C. NCU-3-2003, 900 E. Mt. Hope, Class A Nonconforming
Status
The applicant is requesting a "Class "A" nonconforming
status for 900 E. Mt. Hope Avenue to reconstruct/repair the
damage to the existing church building that was caused by a
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fire. The property is nonconforming for lot area and off-
street parking. Without approval of a Class A, the cost of
restoration would be limited to 50% of the pre-catastrophe
fair market value ($175,000). The contractor's estimate to
repair the damage is $300,000 - $350,000. Therefore, this
is a request for a Class A nonconforming status change in
order to permit the complete restoration of the church.
The proposed application for a Class A Nonconforming
Status at 900 E. Mt. Hope for the repair/reconstruction of the
damage to the church building will not create any traffic,
pollution or parking problems for the area in which it is
located. Staff recommends that the Class "A Nonconforming
Status be approved, as requested, subject to completion of
the reconstruction work within one year from the date of this
approval.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that the applicant has a parking
agreement with the office building to the west for use of their
parking area.
Mr. McConnell stated that he would like to see a copy of the
parking agreement. He also stated that the church has
already began the reconstruction on the building.
Ms. Foster stated that there is no landscaping on this site.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to approve NCU-3-2003, 900 E.
Mt. Hope, Class A Nonconforming Status, with the following conditions: (1) The
building construction and landscaping be completed within one year from the
date of this approval, (2) The church provide a copy of the parking agreement to
the Planning Office before a building permit is issued, (3) The church be charged
a re-inspection fee for beginning the work without a permit, and (4) Street trees
be added along both street frontages and additional landscaping be added to the
interior of the site. On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0).
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to arise from the Committee of
the Whole. On a voice vote, the motion carried unanimously (6-0).
3b. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE
a. Work Program FY 2004-2005
Ms. Cordill made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to approve the Work Program FY
2004-2005, with the recommendations for hiring new staff.
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Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye Foster. . . Ave
Keene . . Ave Ruge. . . Ave
Cordill. . . Aye McConnell . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
On a roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED.
b. Delta Township Plan
Ms. Cordill made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene to submit the comments prepared
by Mr. Rieske as well as those provided by the Planning Board at this meeting, to Delta
Township in response to their request for comments on the proposed Delta Township
Comprehensive Plan.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Foster. . . Ave
Keene . . Ave Ruge . Ave
Cordill. . . Ave McConnell . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
On a roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED.
C. NCU-3-2003, 900 E. Mt. Hope, Class A Nonconforming
Status
Ms. Cordill made a motion, seconded by Mr. McConnell to approve NCU-3-2003, 900
E. Mt. Hope, Class A Nonconforming Status, with the condition that the building
construction and landscaping be completed within one year from the date of this
approval, the church provide a copy of the parking agreement to the Planning
Office before a building permit is issued, the church be charged a re-inspection
fee for beginning the work without a permit and that street trees be added along
both street frontages and additional landscaping be added to the interior of the
site.
Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave Foster. . . Ave
Keene . . Ave Ruge . Ave
Cordill. . . Ave McConnell . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Ave
On a roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED.
4. EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE - None.
C. Report from Planning Manager - None
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D. Pending Items: Future action required
1. Zoning and Ordinance Committee
a. Z-1-1998, 1223 N.Turner St.,"H"Light Industrial District to"G-1" Business
District(Tabled February 11, 1998)
b. SLU-3-2002, 2710 N. Grand River Ave., Church in the"F"Commercial District&
"J" Parking District(Tabled May 15,2002)
2. Urban Development Committee
a. Act-9-2000, 201 E. Grand River Avenue, Proj. Sign Over ROW (Tabled
June 27,2000)
b. Capital Improvements Program (CIP), (Tabled March 25,2003)
C. Master Plan Project
d. Act-1-2003, SE Corner Michigan &Washington, Lot 3, Block 111, Orig Plat,
Vacate Alley(part) (Tabled on April 29,2003)
e. Act-3-2003, Hazel St.W of Cedar, Close intersection with Cedar(Tabled on April
29, 2003)
3. Committee of the Whole
4. Planning Board
a. Proposed Kennel Definition Ordinance Amendment (Tabled on
September 16,2003)
5. Board Member Code Enforcement Notification Reports
a. Teen Challenge-wood privacy fence(May 20, 2003)
b. Dollar Store-Willow Street&MLK Blvd. -landscaping&buffering (May 20,2003)
C. Grovenburg property-dumpster in ROW (July 1,2003)
d. 4831 Eastlawn Drive-huge garage(August 19, 2003)
e. Pryor's Towing-time frame for completion of conditions(September 3,2003)
f. Super Wheel Auto Sales-S. Cedar Street, South of Mt. Hope-heavy equipment
taken off dirt&placed in parking area over gas easement(September 10,2003)
g. Grand River-weird truck(September 10, 2003)
h. Aurelius Road-Keeps Party Store-sign (November 5,2003)
i. Corner of Lathrop Street and Michigan Avenue-new party store-sign (November
5, 2003)
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Cordill to remove the Proposed
Kennel Definition Ordinance Amendment from the table. On a voice vote, the motion
carried unanimously (6-0).
4a. Proposed Kennel Definition Ordinance Amendment
Ms. Stachowiak asked since there are 6 members present at
this meeting, the ordinance amendment be recommended
for approval.
Ms. Cordill mentioned that one of the documents indicates
five household pets is a kennel and the other indicates four.
Ms. Stachowiak stated that it should be five household pets.
Mr. Ruge stated that he has concerns about the definition for
a kennel including restrictions on exotic animals.
The Board members agreed to remove the second sentence
in the proposed kennel definition and to make this sentence
it's own definition of "exotic animal".
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Keene, to recommend approval of the
Proposed Kennel Definition Ordinance Amendment, with the change to the
definition headings.
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Frederick . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye Foster. . . Aye
Keene . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye Ruge. . . ..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye
Cordill. . . Aye McConnell . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Aye
On a roll call vote, there were: Ayes: 6; Nays: 0; carried; unanimous.
APPROVED.
8. NEW BUSINESS - None.
9. COMMENTS FROM CHAIRPERSON - None
10. COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS
Ms. Cordill inquired about making hornes and facilities curbs handicapped
accessible as recommended by Mr. Swain who spoke at the CDBG public
hearing. Mr. McConnell inquired about whether all homes, businesses, etc.
should be made handicapped accessible, particularly those who are received
CDBG funding. Ms. Stachowiak stated that not all houses in the City will be
able to be made handicapped accessible. Ms. Foster stated that perhaps the
State Construction Code should be changed to require handicapped accessibility
for all structures.
Ms. Cordill stated that the City could use texturized curbs to assist blind people.
Mr. Frederick made a motion, seconded by Ms. Cordill to recommend the use of
Universal Design Standards for all transportation systems in the City and to
recommend that all houses using CDBG money be handicapped accessible,
where possible. On a voice vote, the motion carried (6-0).
11. BOARD MEMBER CODE ENFORCEMENT NOTIFICATION REPORTS
Mr. Frederick stated that it appears a new sign is being erected on the west side
of 1-27 on the Beekman School property. There are 3 new poles that have been
put up which appear to be the supports for a large sign.
Mr. McConnell stated that there are cars for sale at the Muffler Man on the
corner of MLK and Jolly Road.
Mr. Ruge inquired about the landscaping at Amos Auto sales and if it is legal.
Ms. Stachowiak stated it is not legal and that the Planning Office is looking into
the matter.
12. ADJOURNMENT - Meeting was adjourned at 10:00 p.m.
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Respectfully submitted,
James A. Ruff, Secretary, Planning Board
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