HomeMy WebLinkAbout2004 Plumbing Board Minutes S I �G DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING
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316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1 • Lansing MI 48933-1238
(517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169
Tony Benavides, Mayor _
BUILDING SAFETY OFFICE
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING
PLUMBING BOARD OF APPEALS
Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:00 pm r
JANUARY 8, 2003
MEMBERS PRESENT: TIM HAGGART, STEVE RECK; TIM WAITE, BILL POND,
CHRIS SHERWOOD
MEMBERS ABSENT: LYNN GUNTHORPE,
STAFF PRESENT: FRANK EIROSIUS, SR., CHIEF PLUMBING INSPECTOR
DAVE BURTON, PLUMBING INSPECTOR
Chairman Tim Haggart called the meeting to order at 7:04 p.m. On a motion by Bill Pond,
supported by Steve Reck, the minutes of December 11, 2003, were approved unanimously.
New Business:
Case No.: Address: Petitioner:
PBA-01-2004 220 W. Washtenaw St. Charles Hausmann for Boji Group
Also present with the petitioner:
Keith Kelly (Boji Group), Mike Peplowski (Boji Group), Joe Thompson (Clark Construction)
Charles Hausmann presented his argument in support of the appeal constructing a parking
ramp without separate toilet facilities and providing direct access to the direct connecting office
tower building toilet rooms. Mr. Hausmann quoted that section 403 of the 2000 Michigan
Plumbing Code specifies the minimum plumbing facilities requirements as identified by Table
403.1. This Section also stipulates that where the type of occupancy is not listed in the Table,
the requirements shall be considered individually by the Code Official. Mr. Hausmann stated
that the parking ramps are not listed in the tables. Mr. Hausmann also stated that the distance
from parking attendants booths to the adjacent office tower would be within approximately 400
feet of walking distance. Mr. Peplowski stated that the Boji development project was originally
conceived as a combined office building/parking ramp with direct access from the parking ramp
to the office building on each level. Public toilet rooms are provided on each level of the office
building and the City of Lansing has accepted the direct access from the ramp to the office
building and that the Boji group will agree to a permanent access for any ramp employees. If the
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Plumbing Board would grant the variance it would keep the original cost from escalating and
also the Boji Group is willing to rough in for future toilet rooms so that the City of Lansing can
finish the work in the near future or as needed. The Plumbing Board is agreeing with Mr.
Peplowski and Mr. Hausmann that the direct access from the parking ramp to the office tower is
provided and the cost of providing a unisex toilet room is not a Code issue and that the parking
structure is on a separate parcel and under it's own Building Permit and that as per the 2000
Michigan Plumbing Code Chapter 4 (minimum plumbing fixtures required, Section 403.1.1
unisex toilet rooms and bath fixtures) that a unisex toilet room is required as per the original
Plan Review. Mr. Kelly also made a statement that security guards are provided for the office
building and they will be there until midnight and in the near future there will be a restaurant on
the first floor level and there will definitely be direct access provided for the ramp employees.
After a lengthy discussion and taking into consideration the concern from Shane Silsby,
Transportation Engineer for the City of Lansing/Transportation and Parking Office, that having a
toilet facility in the parking structure will provide unlimited access now and in the near future to
all parking staff and that an agreement to allow parking staff to utilize the restrooms in the office
towers may not be guaranteed.
The Plumbing Board came to a conclusion that a unisex toilet shall be provided for the parking
structure as per Plan Review.
A motion made by Bill Pond and seconded by Steve Reck to deny the appeal. Motion carried
unanimously.
Old Business:
Inspector Burton shared information and pictures with the Plumbing Board regarding the
situation with 2702 S. Cedar Street regarding contractor Rod Tenniswood not being in
compliance with the 2000 Michigan Plumbing Code separating the storm drains (roof
conductors) from building sewer piping inside the building. The Plumbing Board asked
Inspector Burton to keep the Board up to date on the outcome of this violation.
A motion was made by Chris Sherwood and seconded by Tim Waite to adjourn. Motion carried
unanimously.
Meeting adjourned at 8:28 p.m.
The next Plumbing Board meeting will be held February 12, 2004, at 7:00 p.m.
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Draft Date: January 20, 2004
Approved date:
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S I G DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND
NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT
316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1 • Lansing MI 48933-1238
(517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169
!c H I G BUILDING SAFETY OFFICE
Tony Benavides, Mayor
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING
PLUMBING BOARD OF APPEALS
Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:30 pm
MARCH 11, 2004
Members present: Steve Reck, Tim Waite, Tim Haggart
Members absent: Chris Sherwood, Lynn Gunthorpe, Bill Pond
Staff Present: Frank E. Eirosius, Sr., Chief Plumbing Inspector
Dave Burton, Inspector
With absences, there were not enough Plumbing Board members present to make a quorum.
Therefore, no official business was conducted.
Old Business: Approve minutes of January 8, 2004
New Business: None
The Drain Layers test was given to Joel Barnes and Lonnie Crowe. The remaining Plumbing
Board members present found Mr. Barnes and Mr. Crowe to be qualified to take the drain layers
test.
Joel Barnes passed the Drain Layers test with a score of 72%.
Lonnie Crowe passed the Drain layers test with a score of 86%.
The Plumbing Board members present spent considerable time discussing how to deal with
enforcing the new Plumbing Codes and Plumbing Laws to the fullest and working with the other
city boards to accomplish compliance.
Next Plumbing Board meeting will be April 8, 2004 at 7:00 p.m.
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DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND
NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT
316 N. Capitol Avenue, Suites C-1 • Lansing MI 48933-1238
(517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169
!c H 1 G BUILDING SAFETY OFFICE
Tony Benavides, Mayor
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING
PLUMBING BOARD OF APPEALS
Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:30 pm
APRIL 8, 2004
Members present: Tim Waite, Tim Haggart, Bill Pond
Members absent: Chris Sherwood, Lynn Gunthorpe, Steve Reck
Staff Present: Frank E. Eirosius, Sr., Chief Plumbing Inspector
Dave Burton, Inspector
With absences, there were not enough Plumbing Board members present to make a quorum.
Therefore, no official business was conducted.
Old Business: Approve minutes of January 8, 2004
New Business: None
The Plumbing Board members present spent considerable time discussing how to deal with
enforcing the new plumbing codes and plumbing laws to the fullest and working with the other City
Boards to accomplish compliance.
Noetary
�oard meeting will be May 13, 2004 at 7:00 p.m.
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S Draft Date: April 16, 2004
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SING DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND
NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT
316 N. Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1 • Lansing MI 48933-1238
(517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169
I C H I G BUILDING SAFETY OFFICE
Tony Benavides, Mayor
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING
PLUMBING BOARD OF APPEALS
Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:30 pm
May 13, 2004
Members present: Tim Haggart, Bill Pond, Steve Reck
Members absent: Chris Sherwood, Tim Waite
Staff Present: Frank E. Eirosius, Sr., Chief Plumbing Inspector
Dave Burton, Inspector
With absences, there were not enough Plumbing Board members present to make a quorum.
Therefore, no official business was conducted.
Old Business: Need to approve minutes of January 8, 2004
New Business: None
The Plumbing Board members present found Mr. Steve Hollon to be qualified to take the drain
layers test. The Drain Layers test was given by Dave Burton to Mr. Hollon.
Steve Hollon passed the Drain Layers test with a score of 90%.
The Plumbing Board members present spent considerable time discussing how to deal with
enforcing the new Plumbing Codes and Plumbing Laws to the fullest and working with other city
boards to accomplish compliance.
Next Plumbing Board meeting will be September 9, 2004 at 7:00 p.m.
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rank Eirosius, Sr.
Secretary Draft date: May 25, 2004
Approved date:
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yP� S 1"G DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING
& NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT
316 N.Capitol Avenue, Suites C-1 • Lansing MI 48933-1238
`lr � (517)483-4355• FAX: (517)377-0169
f H �'A BUILDING SAFETY OFFICE
Tony Benavides, Mayor
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING
PLUMBING BOARD OF APPEALS
Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:00 pm
Thursday, September 9, 2004
MEMBERS PRESENT: STEVE RECK, BILL POND, TIM WAITE, EMMETT KELLY
MEMBERS ABSENT: CHRIS SHERWOOD, TIM HAGGART
STAFF PRESENT: FRANK EIROSIUS SR., CHIEF PLUMBING INSPECTOR
DAVE BURTON, PLUMBING INSPECTOR
Vice Chairman Steve Reck called the meeting to order at 7:06 p.m. The plumbing board
members welcomed the newest board member, Emmett Kelly, to the plumbing board.
Old Business:
On a motion by Tim Waite supported by Bill Pond, the minutes of March 11, 2004 were
approved.
On a motion by Emmett Kelly supported by Bill Pond, the minutes of April 8, 2004 were
approved.
On a motion by Tim Waite supported by Bill Pond, the minutes of May 13, 2004 were
approved.
On a motion by Steve Reck supported by Tim Waite, that the plumbing board elections
for chairman and vice chair shall be held at the October 14, 2004 plumbing board
meeting.
New Business:
It was brought to the plumbing board's attention that November 11, 2004 plumbing
board meeting falls on Veterans Day. The board made a motion to move November 11,
2004 plumbing board meeting to November 9, 2004. It was seconded by Bill Pond and
supported by Emmett Kelly and was approved unanimously.
Drain Layers Exam
The plumbing board members present found Cheyenne Sherman qualified to take the
drain layers exam. Dave Burton, plumbing inspector, administered the drain layers
exam.
Cheyenne Sherman had a 92% on his exam.
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The plumbing board members present spent considerable time discussing the new
plumbing laws, the possible changes to the plumbing laws, how to deal with enforcing
the new plumbing codes and working with other city boards to accomplish compliance.
It was brought to the board's attention that Frank Eirosius, Chief plumbing inspector,
and Gary Brydges, Building Safety Manager, are working with public service on a city
ordinance regarding `grease trap interceptors'.
A motion was made by Bill Pond and seconded by Emmett Kelly to adjourn. Motion
carried unanimously.
Meeting was adjourned at 8:44 p.m.
The next Plumbing Board meeting will be held October 14, 2004, at 7:00 p.m.
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sius Sr., Secretary Draft Date: September 22, 2004
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S r �,G DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND
NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT
316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1 • Lansing MI 48933-1238
(517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169
'1 H I G e' BUILDING SAFETY OFFICE
Tony Benavides, Mayor
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING
PLUMBING BOARD OF APPEALS
Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:30 pm
October 14, 2004
Members present: None
Members absent: Chris Sherwood, Tim Waite, Tim Haggart,
Bill Pond, Steve Reck, Emmett Kelly
Staff Present: Frank E. Eirosius, Sr., Chief Plumbing Inspector
Staff Absent: Dave Burton, Inspector
With absences, there were not enough Plumbing Board members present to make a quorum.
Therefore, no official business was conducted.
Old Business: Approve minutes of September 9, 2004
New Business: None
Next Plumbing Board meeting will be November 9, 2004 at 7:00 p.m.
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Draft date: October 15, 2004
Approved date:
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s r �,G DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND
NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT
316 N. Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1 • Lansing MI 48933-1238
(517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169
I C H t G 4' BUILDING SAFETY OFFICE
Tony Benavides, Mayor
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING
PLUMBING BOARD OF APPEALS
Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:30 pm
November 9, 2004
Members present: Steve Reck, Emmett Kelley
Members absent: Chris Sherwood, Tim Waite, Tim Haggart, Bill Pond
Staff Present: Frank E. Eirosius, Sr., Chief Plumbing Inspector
Dave Burton, Inspector
With absences, there were not enough Plumbing Board members present to make a quorum.
Therefore, no official business was conducted.
Drain Layers Exam
The Board members present interviewed Karl D. Russell and Thomas D. Davis and found them
qualified to take the drain layers exam. Drain Layers Exam was administered by Dave Burton,
Plumbing Inspector.
Test scores are: Karl D. Russell 86%
Thomas D. Davis 76%
The Plumbing Board members present spent considerable time going over the 2003 Michigan
Plumbing Code and Plumbing Law issues.
Old Business: Approve minutes of September 9, 2004
New Business: None
Next Plu bVT
Board meeting will be December 9, 2004 at 7:00 p.m.
Resp ctfully'submitted,
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cretary Draft date: December 3, 2004
Approved date:
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v� SING DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING
& NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT
316 N.Capitol Avenue, Suites C-1 • Lansing,MI 48933-1238
(517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169
Ic H t BUILDING SAFETY OFFICE
Tony Benavides, Mayor
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING
PLUMBING BOARD OF APPEALS
Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:00 pm
December 9, 2004
MEMBERS PRESENT: TIM HAGGART, STEVE RECK; TIM WAITE, BILL POND,
EMMETT KELLY
MEMBERS ABSENT: CHRIS SHERWOOD
STAFF PRESENT: FRANK EIROSIUS, SR., CHIEF PLUMBING INSPECTOR
DAVE BURTON, PLUMBING INSPECTOR
Chairman Tim Haggart called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. On a motion by Bill Pond,
supported by Tim Waite, the minutes of October 14, 2004 were approved unanimously. On a
motion by Tim Waite, supported by Steve Reck, the minutes of November 9, 2004, were
approved unanimously.
Old Business:
On a motion by Tim Waite, supported by Steve Reck, the minutes of September 9, 2004, were
approved unanimously.
New Business: There was no other business so the Plumbing Board retired to the Cadillac
Club for the annual Christmas dinner.
The next Plumbing Board meeting will be held January 13, 2004, at 7:00 p.m.
Respect ly su e
Fr n Eirosius Sr., Secretary Draft Date: December 15, 2004
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