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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2000 Plumbing Board Minutes S I DL_PARTMENT OF PLANNING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT " 316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1 &C-2*Lansing MI 48933-1238•(517)483-4355• FAX: (517)377-0169 �. BUILDING SAFETY AND CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICE �ICHIG4, David C.Hollister,Mayor OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING PLUMBING BOARD OF APPEALS January 13, 2000 Members present: Tim Haggart, Bill Pond, and Steven Reck Members absent: Bob Burns, Lynn Gunthorpe, and Chris Sherwood �< Staff Present: Joseph Delaney, Frank Eirosius c.� With the absences, there were not enough Plumbing Board members present to make a quorum. Therefore, no official business was conducted. Jokay Maxie from Public Services Department was present at the request of the Plumbing Board to discuss changes or any problems that exist in the drainlayer's applications and drainlayer's examination. After a lengthy discussion, the Plumbing Board will probably make a few minor changes. The next Plumbing Board Meeting will be February 10, 2000 Respectfully submitted, Joseph Delaney Secretary Final: 01/18/00 DL ?ARTMENT OF PLrANNING AND c NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT " 316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1 &C-2•Lansing MI 48933.12389(517)483-4355®FAX. (517)377-0169 BUILDING SAFETY AND CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICE �fcH1G� David C.Hollister,Mayor OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING PLUMBING BOARD OF APPEALS Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:30 pm February 10, 2000 67, Members present: Lynn Gunthorpe, Tim Haggart and Bill Pond Members absent: Bob Burns, Steven Reck and Chris Sherwood L � Staff Present: Joseph Delaney, Frank Eirosius With absences, there were not enough Plumbing Board members present to make a quorum. Therefore, no official business was conducted. The Drain Layer examination was administered by Frank Eirosius to the following applicants: Mr. Duane Griffs with a score of 98% Mr. John Ruhlman with a score of 96% ® Mr. Mike Smith with a score of 72% Mr. Thomas Ballman with a score of 94% • Mr. George Graf with a score of 66% The next Plumbing Board Meeting will be March 9, 2000 at 7:30 pm. Respectfully submitted, Joseph Delaney Secretary Final date: February 14, 2000 S I vc DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT " 316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1 &C-2.Lansing MI 48933-1238•(517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377- 0169 BUILDING SAFETY AND CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICE I� xt � e� David C.Hollister,Mayor J OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING PLUMBING BOARD OF APPEALS Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:30 pm March 9, 2000 Members present: Tim Haggart, Bill Pond, Chris Sherwood and Steve Reck Members absent: Bob Burns and Lynn Gunthorpe Staff Present: Joseph Delaney, Frank Eirosius The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Chairman Reck. On a motion by Mr. Haggart, supported by Mr. Sherwood, the minutes of May 13, 1999, November 18, 1999, and December 9, 1999 were approved. Motion carried unanimously. Old Business: The Plumbing Board discussed their concern as to what effect the I.P.C. would have on insulation requirements for medical gas to maintain health and safety. The Plumbing Board also discussed their concern that the I.P.C. would be the same standards for certification of backflow preventors. New Business: A Drain Layer Examination was administered by Frank Eirosius to Mr. John Verlinde with a score of 40%. 70% is passing. Chairman Steve Reck presented the Plumbing Board with is annual report which he sends to the Mayor. The Plumbing Board thought it was an very excellent report, the Plumbing Board passed a motion and carried it unanimously to accept the report. mzttA C�A00e A motion was made by Mr. Pond, seconded by Mr. Sherwood to adjourn the meeting at 9:50 p.m. The motion carried unanimously. The next Plumbing Board Meeting will be April 13, 2000 Respectfully submitted, Joseph Delaney Secretary Draft date: 03/14/00 Approved date: c75/07) '00 cc: Mayors Office City Clerk Board Secretary Staff Representatives Public file-original S I G D._PARTMENT OF PLANNING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1 &C-2•Lansing MI 48933-1238•(517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169 $ BUILDING SAFETY AND CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICE ICHIGP David C.Hollister,Mayor OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING PLUMBING BOARD OF APPEALS !` E Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:30 pm - April 13, 2000 Cif Members present: Tim Haggart and Steven Reck Members absent: Bob Burns, Lynn Gunthorpe, Bill Pond and Chris Sherwood Staff Present: Joseph Delaney, Frank Eirosius With absences, there were not enough Plumbing Board Members present to make a quorum. Therefore, no official business was conducted. A Drain Layer examination was administered by Frank Eirosius to Mr. Steven Smith with a score of 84%. The Plumbing Board members present spent some time discussing qualifications for Plumbing Board members, international residential code, differences between sewage ejector and gravity, and combustible material. Next Plumbing Board Meeting will be May 11, 2000. Respectfully submitted, Joseph Delaney Secretary Final date: April 18, 2000 cc: Mayor's Office City Clerk Board Secretary Building Safety Staff Representatives applicants Public file - original SING DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 316 N. Capitol Avenue, Suites C-1 &C-2 • Lansing MI 48933-1238 (517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169 I c H 1 G BUILDING SAFETY AND CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICE David C. Hollister,Mayor OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING PLUMBING BOARD OF APPEALS Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:30 pm May 9,2000 Members present: Tim Haggart, Lynn Gunthorpe, Bill Pond, Steven Reck and Chris ";A Sherwood ­0 rt Members absent: Bob Burns Staff Present: Joseph Delaney, Frank Eirosius The meeting was called to order at 7.-30 p.m. by Chairman Reck. On a motion by Mr. Haggart, supported by Mr. Pond, the minutes of March 9, 2000, were approved. Motion carried unanimously. Old Business: none New Business: PBA-002-2000 920 Townsend General Motors Body Shop Mr. Matthew Pettit,representing SmithGroup, Inc., was present for this appeal. Mr. Pettit, the petitioner is requesting approval for their design for overflow roof drains to tie together with the regular roof drain piping inside the building under the floor. The petitioner stated that both regular and overflow drains run independently to the underground. Roof sump pipe size is 8" which goes underground into a 10" pipe, then to a manhole, then to a 12" pipe, then to another manhole, then to a 30" pipe which goes outside the building. The system is overdesigned to handle rain water without any problem. GM has maintenance people that will solve any problem before it starts. The petitioner also said this is not a safety problem. It was deigned this way because given the size of the building and it's structure, it is not practical or cost effective to go any other way. After some discussion, Mr. Haggart made a motion to grant a variance which will allow the installation of the overflow rood drains to tie into the regular roof drains underground because the job is too far along to make any changes. The variance will authorize relief from Appendix D of the Minutes for Plumbing Board 4ppeals—May 9, 2000 2 Plumbing Code. The motion was seconded by Mr. Gunthorpe. Motion carried unanimously. The Plumbing Board would like to notify the Mayor's Office that the Plumbing Board made a motion that was supported and carried unanimously that Mr. Lynn Gunthorpe, Mr. Tim Haggart, Mr. Stephen Reck and Mr. William Pond be reappointed to the City of Lansing Plumbing Board because of their special skills which are required for their positions on the Board In the past these positions have been difficult to fill. Mr. Robert Burns is resigning from the Board and will not be reappointed. Mr. Tim Waite, a resident of Lansing who is a Journey Licensed Plumber would like to serve on the Plumbing Board and the Board will notify the Mayor's Office if Mr. Waite decides to apply. The Plumbing Department received a letter form Beta Design Group stating that at the 505 West Allegan job, they have designed the first floor plumbing fixtures to discharge into the sewer ejector due to a structural problem. Beta engineers take full responsibility for the design. The Plumbing Board was disappointed with Beta Design Group. The Board could see no reason that the first floor fixtures could not discharge by gravity. A motion was made by Mr. Pond, seconded by Mr. Sherwood, to adjourn the meeting at 9:45 p.m. Motion carried unanimously. Respectfully submitted, Joseph Delaney Secretary Draft date: 05/17/00 Approved date: ;�( cc: Ma ff+ee-- Board Secretary ity Clerk's Office Staff Representatives Appeal applicants �/J Public file-orial gin � � � / �, DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1 &C-2 • Lansing MI 48933-1238 (517)483-4355• FAX: (517)377-0169 BUILDING SAFETY AND CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICE David C. Hollister,Mayor OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING PLUMBING BOARD OF APPEALS SPECIAL MEETING Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 4:00 pm r ` � 1 May 12, 2000 Members present: Tim Haggart, Bill Pond, Stephen Reck and Chris Sherwood. Members absent: Bob Burns and Lynn Gunthorpe Staff Present: Joseph Delaney, Frank Eirosius The meeting was called to order at 4:00 p.m. by Chairman Reck. New Business: PBA-003-2000 1014 Townsend General Motors Assembly Building Mr. Nat Patel representing SmithGroup, Inc., and Mr. Steven Jensen, Mr. Eugene Handzinski and Mr. John Banghart representing General Motors present for this appeal. The petitioner is requesting approval for their design for overflow roof drains to tie together with the regular roof drain piping underground, inside the building. The petitioners stated that the roof is designed for 100 years storm, each roof sump can handle 14,000 sq. feet. The roof has a 2% slope and also '/d' slope per foot. The valleys are designed to move one foot of water. GM hires a company to inspect the roof annually to maintain their twenty year warranty. GM has complete confidence in the overflow roof drains. The petitioners had concerns with the electrical 480 bus that run all through the building because if a leak develops where the overflow drains run over the 480 bus, it could be a big health and safety problem. Also, the roof drains are all oversize. After some discussion, Mr. Haggart made a motion to grant a variance to use the SmithGroup, Inc. design overflow roof drains to tie into the regular rood drains under the floor. The variance will authorize relief from Appendix D of the Plumbing Code. Motion was seconded by Mr. Sherwood. Motion carried unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 4:30p.m. Respectfully submitted, �c/I.." Joseph Delaney Secretary Draft date: 05/17/00 Approved date: - �U cc: Mayor's Office Board Secretary ,C44-e et r s 5ffiae Staff Representatives Appea o d—ers Appeal applicants (Z-) o Public file-original S IBC DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1 &C-2 • Lansing MI 48933-1238 (517)483-4355 9 FAX: (517)377-0169 BUILDING SAFETY AND CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICE David C. Hollister,Mayor OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING r PLUMBING BOARD OF APPEALS = C-- Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:30 pm June 8, 2000 T�? a Members present: Lynn Gunthorpe, Bill Pond, Steven Reck and Chris Sherwood Members absent: Bob Burns, Tim Haggart Staff Present: Joseph Delaney, Frank Eirosius The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by Chairman Reck. On a motion by Mr. Pond, supported by Mr. Sherwood, the minutes of May 9, 2000, were approved. Motion carried unanimously. On a motion by Mr. Pond, supported by Mr. Sherwood the minutes of May 12, 2000 special meeting were approved. Motion carried unanimously. New Business: PBA-005-2000 1145 S. Washington Mr. Victor Izzo, Ms. Mary Izzo representing themselves as the property owner and Mr. Raymond Scodeller representing the property owner, were present for this appeal. The petitioners are requesting a variance to eliminate one urinal in the men's restroom and one water closet in the women's restroom. The petitioners propose to have two unisex restrooms with each having one water closet and one lavatory with one of the unisex being barrier free. The petitioners also said their business is very small, only 1200 sq. ft. The seating is only 16 or 17 people. They serve drinks and deli, there would be no cooking of food. After a discussion, Mr. Pond made a motion to grant a variance because he felt the extra water closet and urinal is for up to 50 people. The variance will authorize relief from table 9-3 of the amendment of the plumbing code. Motion was seconded by Mr. Gunthorpe. Motion carried unanimously. PBA-004-2000 819 N. Walnut three unit rental Ms. Patricia Renner, Ms. Emmy Lou Renner property owner, and Ms. Sandra Schafer, were present for this appeal. The petitioner is requesting a variance for plumbing remodeling. Revent bath tub on first floor, shower on second floor 28"wide, code requires 32"wide new plumbing in walls. Mr. Eirosius, plumbing inspector for this job, said there is new waste piping in the walls that has not been inspected, and the bath tub need revent a shower is only 28" wide. The petitioner said there is no new waste piping in the walls. The plumbing board said that the plumbing permit Minutes for Plumbing Board of Appeals—May 9, 2000 2 was issued to a master plumber who is fully responsible for the plumbing work and the burden should not be put on the property owner. After some discussion, Mr. Gunthorpe made a motion to put a water or air test on waste piping to be done by the plumber at no cost to the property owner and witnessed by Mr. Eirosius When the test is approved,job will be final. Motion was seconded by Mr. Pond, motion carried unanimously. Old Business: The plumbing board discussed the difference in the new code and when it will go into effect. A motion was made by Mr. Sherwood, seconded by Mr. Gunthorpe, to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried unanimously. Respectfully submitted, Jo s��Delane P Y Secretary Draft date:� -1d-00 Approved date: cc: Mayor's Office i Board Secretary City Clerk's Officer Staff Representatives Appeal folders Appeal applicants Public file-original v� S I Nc DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 316 N. Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1 &C-2 . Lansing MI 48933-1238 (517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169 IC H 1 G 4' BUILDING SAFETY AND CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICE David C. Hollister, Mayor D OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING ` PLUMBING BOARD OF APPEALS �� I - U, Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:30 pm September 14,2000 G1 Members present: Tim Haggart, Lynn Gunthorpe, and Bill Pond Members absent: Bob Burns, Steven Reck and Chris Sherwood *With absences, there were not enough Plumbing Board Members present to make a quorum. Therefore, no official business was conducted. Staff Present: Joseph Delaney, Frank Eirosius Three Drain Layer Examinations were administered by Frank Eirosius to Mr. Ron Bretz with a score of 92%, Mr. Kevin O'Brien with a score of 72% and Mr. Scott Patrick with a score of 96% The Plumbing Board members present spent some time discussing the difference between I.P.C. and U.P.C. The I.P.C. is being mandated in the State of Michigan. Plumbing Board members that have used the 1997 I.P.C. felt the I.P.C. is 10 years backward and very confusing. Next Plumbing Board meeting will be October 12, 2000. Respectfully submitted, /��� Joseph Delane� Secretary Draft date:9-20- 0 Approved date: 1� /(? 1 cc: Mayor's Office Board Secretary City Clerk's Office Staff Representatives Appeal folders Appeal applicants Public file-original S I �G DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1 &C-2 . Lansing MI 48933-1238 (517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169 I C H 1 G BUILDING SAFETY AND CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICE David C. Hollister, Mayor OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING PLUMBING BOARD OF APPEALS .'I Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:30 pm October 12, 2000 - Members present: Tim Haggart, Steven Reck - Members absent: Bob Burns, Lynn Gunthorpe, Bill Pond, Chris Sherwood Staff Present: Joseph Delaney, Frank Eirosius With absences, there were not enough Plumbing Board Members present to make a quorum. Therefore no official business was conducted. The Plumbing Board members present, spent some time discussing differences between the U.P.C. and I.P.C. how venting will change and less restricted materials I.P.C. will allow. Next Plumbing Board meeting will be November 9, 2000 Respectfully submitted, /Jose�phLlaney Secretary Draft date:10-18-00 Approved date: cc: ayor's Office Board Secretary City Clerk's Office Staff Representatives Appeal folders Appeal applicants Public file-original S I �G DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1 &C-2 • Lansing MI 48933-1238 (517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169 I C H I G BUILDING SAFETY AND CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICE_- 16 David C. Hollister, Mayor s OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING PLUMBING BOARD OF APPEALS Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:30 pm November 9, 2000 Members present: Tim Haggart, Bill Pond, Steven Reck Members absent: Bob Burns, Lynn Gunthorpe, Chris Sherwood Staff Present: Joseph Delaney, Frank Eirosius With absences, there were not enough Plumbing Board members present to make a quorum. Therefore no official business was conducted. The Plumbing Board members present, spent considerable time going over the draft of the State Plumbing Law. Old Business: none New Business: Next Plumbing Board meeting will be December 14, 2000. Respectfully submitted, Joseph Delaney Secretary Draft date: 11-13-00 Approved date: cc: �yor's Office Board Secretary City Clerk's Office Staff Representatives Appeal folders Appeal applicants Public file-original S 1 DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 316 N. Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1 &C-2 • Lansing MI 48933-1238 (517)483-4355.FAX: (517)377-0169 arc H I G BUILDING SAFETY AND CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICE David C. Hollister, Mayor OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING PLUMBING BOARD OF APPEALS Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:30 pm l December 14, 2000 Cs7 Members present: Tim Haggart, Bill Pond, Steven Reck Members absent: Bob Burns, Lynn Gunthorpe, Chris Sherwood With absences, there were not enough Plumbing Board members present to make a quorum. Therefore, no official business was conducted. The Plumbing Board members present spent time reminiscing about what happened to the Plumbing Code in 2000. The Plumbing Board retired to Clara's Restaurant for the Annual Christmas Dinner. Old Business: Plumbing Code New Business: none Next Plumbing Board meeting will be January 11, 2001. Respectfully submitted, Joseph Delaney Secretary Draft date: 12-18-00 Approved date: cc: Mayor's Office Board Secretary City Clerk's Office Staff Representatives Appeal folders Appeal applicants Public file-original