HomeMy WebLinkAbout1997 Plumbing Board Minutes OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS
of the
PLUMBING BOARD
January 23, 1997
Members Present: Tim Haggart, Alison Panich, Bill Pond, Bob Burns, Steven Reck
Members Absent: Lynn Gunthorpe
Staff Present: Joseph Delaney, Frank Eirosius, Jack Nelson
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Haggart at 7:30 p.m. On a motion by Mr. Reck,
supported by Ms. Panich, the minutes of December 16, 1996, were approved. Motion carried
unanimously.
New Business:
Mr. Nelson spoke to the Plumbing Board about a new program that the Building Safety Office has
instituted for the citizens of Lansing. The program is called "Homeowners Night Out" and makes a
staff person available every Wednesdayn between the hours of 4:30 - 7:00 p.m. at the Lansing Police
Department South Precinct Office. "Homeowners Night Out" is for homeowner's doing construction
projects or needing Zoning information.
Mr. Nelson informed the Plumbing Board that the Department of Planning and Neighborhood
Development will be moving on Friday, February 14, 1997, to the North Capitol Ramp. The Building
Safety Office will be closed that day and will be open again on Monday, February 17, 1997.
Mr. Nelson stated that he had sent all the Plumbing Board members a copy of the procedures which the
State of Michigan requires of appeal boards.
Mr. Nelson also talked about updating the code's every three years, hopefully in the year 2000 there
will be one code, if everything falls into place it will be the international codes. For the 1997 code, Mr.
Nelson said he will get the Plumbing Board members copy of the U.P.C. and I.P.C. code so that the
Plumbing Board could study, compare and choose the best 1997 plumbing code for the City of Lansing.
Mr. Nelson thanked the Plumbing Board for their time.
Respectfully,
Joseph Delaney, Secretary Draft: 01/07/97 C ,
Approved:, V -o 1
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS
OF THE
CITY OF LANSING
PLUMBING BOARD OF APPEALS
February 20, 1997
Members Present: Tim Haggart, Alison Panich, Bill Pond, Bob Burns, Steven Reck, Lynn Gunthorpe
Staff Present: Joseph Delaney, Frank Eirosius
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Haggart at 7:30 p.m. On a motion by Ms. Panich,
supported by Mr. Reck, the minutes of January 23, 1997, were approved. Motion carried unanimously.
Old Business: The Plumbing Board discussed medical gas systems - pumps, air compressors and other
equipment - should be certified by a third party. The Plumbing Board noted that in going through the
I.P.C. it does not cover medical gas.
New Business: Goyette Mechanical Co. john green requested to use painted victaulic coupling on
storm and sanitary piping at G.M. Plant 6. The Plumbing Board is not comfortable using painted victaulic
coupling on water, storm and sanitary. After further checking there is a letter from Kimberly M. Gamble,
P.E. with McNamee Industrial Services Inc. stating that galvanized steel piping and galvanized coupling
would be accepted to use at G.M. Plant 6. The Plumbing Board also discussed Section 410.4 wet venting
pipe sizers should be at least(2)pipe sizes larger than the fixture connection.
A motion was made by Mr. Burns, seconded by Mr. Pond to adjourn the meeting at 9:45 p.m. The motion
carried unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Joseph Delaney Draft: 2/26/97
Secretary Approved: 3/13/97
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS
of the
PLUMBING BOARD
March 13, 1997
Members Present: Tim Haggart, Alison Panich, Bill Pond, Bob Burns
Members Absent: Steven Reck, Lynn Gunthorpe
Staff Present: Joseph Delaney and Frank Eirosius
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Haggart at 7:30 p.m. The minutes of February 20, 1997,
were approved with one correction under New Business, instead of John Green Co. it should be Goyette
Mechanical Co. Motion by Mr. Burns, supported by Mr. Pond. Motion carried unanimously.
Old Business:
The Plumbing Board had a lengthy discussion on I.P.C. and U.P.C. plumbing codes. The Plumbing
Board had some concern that the I.P.C. would be very confusing to the plumbers and homeowners in
the field because of all the references. The U.P.C. states precisely what the intent is. The Plumbing
Board had serious problems with the I.P.C. in Chapters 1, 5, 9 and 13. The Plumbing Board also had
questions about the I.P.C. Chapters 6 and 7.
New Business:
The Plumbing Board voted unanimously to give Mr. Lynn Gunthorpe and Mr. Steven Reck an excused
absence.
A motion was made by Mr. Burns that the City of Lansing adopt the 1997 U.P.C. Motion supported by
Mr. Pond. Motion carried unanimously.
A motion was made by Ms. Panich, supported by Mr. Pond to adjourn at 9:50 p.m. Motion carried
unanimously.
Respectfully,
Joseph Delaney, Secretary Draft: 03/25/97G
Approved: !� 0
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS
of the
PLUMBING BOARD
May 8, 1997
Members Present: Tim Haggart, Steven Reek, Bill Pond, Bob Burns
Members Absent: Alison Panich, Lynn Gunthorpe
Staff Present: Joseph Delaney and Frank Eirosius
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Haggart at 7:30 p.m. The minutes of March 13, 1997,
were approved. Motion by Mr. Reek, supported by Mr. Pond. Motion carried unanimously.
Old Business:
None.
New Business:
One drain layer examination was administered by Mr. Eirosius to Mr. Brent Landborn with a score of
68%. 70% is passing.
PA-002-97 Dodd Restaurant - 3500 S Waverly Road
Mr. Roosevelt Robertson, Petitioner, representing Dodd Restaurant was present for this appeal. The
petitioner is requesting to eliminate the employee restroom. Mr. Robertson stated that the restaurant
load seating will be 75 people and the two restrooms which will be installed will have an occupant load
of 100 people. Mr. Robertson also stated that Ingham County Health would grant a variance to
eliminate the employees restroom because the building needs more dry food storage.
After a discussion, the Plumbing Board said the County Health Department does not have jurisdiction
over Table 9-4 of the Lansing amendment to the U.P.C.
Mr. Reek made motion to grant a one time only variance to eliminate the employees restroom. Motion
was seconded by Mr. Pond. Motion carried unanimously.
In support of this decision the Plumbing Board makes the following finding of fact: Occupancy load is
sufficient and it does not create a health hazard.
Joseph Delaney announced that on June 23, 1997, the Plumbing Board is invited to a Lugnuts Baseball
Game at Oldsmobile Park. Tickets can be picked up the week of June 16 at the Building Safety Office.
A motion was made by Mr. Burns, supported by Mr. Pond to adjourn at 9:50 p.m. Motion carried
unanimously.
Respectfully,
Joseph Delaney, Secretary Draft: 05/21/97
Approved: q 11110
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS
of the
PLUMBING BOARD
September 11, 1997
Members Present: Alison Bono, Tim Haggart, Steven Reek, Bill Pond, Bob Burns, Lynn Gunthorpe
Members Absent: None
Staff Present: Joseph Delaney and Frank Eirosius
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Haggart at 7:30 p.m. Mr. Pond made a motion to approve the
minutes of the May 8, 1997, meeting. Motion supported by Mr. Burns. Motion carried unanimously.
Election of Officers:
A unanimous ballet was cast for Tim Haggart as Chairman. A unanimous ballet was cast for Bill Pond as Vice
Chairman.
New Business:
A drain layer examination was administered by the Plumbing Board to Mr. John Nichols with a score of 80%.
70% is passing.
The Plumbing Board discussed a letter received by Daily Plumbing for variance on a barrier free water closet.
The Plumbing Board said the state can give the variance on barrier free.
The Plumbing Board said at the next meeting they would like to get started with the amendments for the 1997
U.P.C.
Old Business:
The Plumbing Board discussed the importance and safety of medical gas.
A motion was made by Mr. Reek, seconded by Mr. Gunthorpe, to adjourn the meeting at 9:45 p.m. Motion
carried unanimously.
The next Plumbing Board meeting will be October 9, 1997.
Respectfully,
Joseph Delaney, Secretary Draft: 09/25/97
Approved: _ l
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS
of the
PLUMBING BOARD
October 9, 1997
Members Present: Tim Haggart, Steven Reck, Bill Pond, Bob Burns
Members Absent: Lynn Gunthorpe
Staff Present: Joseph Delaney and Frank Eirosius
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Haggart at 7:30 p.m. On a motion by Mr, Reck, supported by Mr.
Pond, the minutes of September 11, 1997, were approved. Motion carried unanimously.
New Business:
One drain layer examination was administered by Mr. Eirousis to Mr. David Couch with a score of 46%. 70% is
passing.
The Plumbing Board started working on the amendments to the 1997 U.P.C. With one or two more meetings the
Plumbing Board hopes to complete the amendments.
Old Business:
None.
A motion was made by Mr. Reck, seconded by Mr. Burns, to adjourn the meeting at 9:20 p.m. Motion carried
unanimously.
The next Plumbing Board meeting will be November 13, 1997.
Respectfully,
Joseph Delaney, Secretary Draft: 10/17/97
Approved:
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS
of the
PLUMBING BOARD
November 13, 1997
Members Present: Tim Haggart, Steven Reck, Bill Pond, Bob Bums
Members Absent: Lynn Gunthorpe
Staff Present: Joseph Delaney and Frank Eirosius
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Haggart at 7:30 p.m. On a motion by Mr. Burns, supported
by Mr. Reck, the minutes of October 9, 1997, were approved. Motion carried unanimously.
Old Business:
Amendment changes to the U.P.C.
1. Chapter 1422.01 that read Appendix Chapters A, B, C, D, E G, H and J-new will read Appendix
Chapters A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, and L.
2. Table 7-3 of the U.P.C. that read clothes washer domestic 2" standpipe minimum size and trap
arm is 2".New will read clothes washer domestic 3" standpipe minimum size trap arm is 3".
3. Amend Appendix Chapter F Section F 3(c) by deleting (c) and replacing it with the following:
"Installers shall be qualified or certified through proper training from a certified instructor."
4. New Section 1303.3.A Installers shall be qualified or certified through proper training from a
certified instructor.
The Plumbing Board voted unanimously to accept these changes.
New Business:
The Plumbing Board discussed plumbing fixture requirements.
Due to a scheduling conflict the December Plumbing Board meeting will be changed to December 4,
1997, at 6:00 p.m.
A motion was made by Mr. Pond, seconded by Mr. Reck, to adjourn the meeting at 9:45 p.m. Motion
carried unanimously.
Respectfully,
Joseph Delaney, Secretary Draft: 11/18/97
Approved:
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS
of the
PLUMBING BOARD
December 4, 1997
Members Present: Tim Haggart, Bill Pond, Bob Burns, Steven Reck
Members Absent: Lynn Gunthorpe
Staff Present: Joseph Delaney, Frank Eirosius, Jack Nelson
The mmeting was called to order by Chairman Haggart at 6:00 p.m.
New Business:
The Plumbing Board voted unanimously to give Lynn Gunthorpe an excused absence.
Old Business:
There was some discussion on the amendments to the U.P.C.
Being no other busines the Plumbing Board retired to the NutHouse Restaurant for the annual
Christmas Dinner.
The next Plumbing Board Meeting will be January 8, 1998.
Respectfully,
oseph Delaney, Secretary Draft: 01/08/98
Approved:
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February 3, 1998
Mayor David Hollister
9th Floor- City Hall
124 West Michigan Avenue
Lansing, MI 48933
Dear Mayor Hollister:
The Plumbing Board continues to have very good participation and input from its
members. The current members of the Lansing Plumbing Board are:
Lynn Gunthorpe Master Plumber
Robert Burns Journey Plumber
Stephen Reek Michigan Health Department
William Pond Master Plumber
Tim Haggart Journey Plumber
In 1997, the Board met nine (9) times. The priorities of the Board continue to be to
protect the health and safety of the citizens of Lansing and to approve new materials and
products as they become available for use in plumbing installations.
In 1997, the Lansing Plumbing Board continued to act as the Plumbing Appeals Board.
The Board works closely with Chief Plumbing Inspector, Joseph Delaney and Assistant
Inspector, Frank Eirosius enforcing the Uniform Plumbing Code.
The Board meets the second Thursday of each month, September through May,. We
would welcome you or your staff at any time.
If you have any questions, or if I can be of assistance, please call me. My home phone
number is 394-5497.
Sincerely,
-7
CHaggart, Ch i man
Lansing Plumbing Board