HomeMy WebLinkAbout1989 Plumbing Board Minutes0. Building Safety Division
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Terry J. McKane, Mayor
OFFICIAL PROCEEDING
of the
PLUMBING BOARD SPECIAL MEETING
August 10, 1969
MEMBERS PRESENT: Loren Nichols, Tom Eifert, John Brady, Bob Burns
MEMBERS ABSENT: Steven Reck and Lynn Gunthorpe
INSPECTOR PRESENT:
Joseph Delaney
NEW BUSINES: The meeting was called to order by Chairman John
Brady at 7:30 p.m. This is a special meeting for Appeal of Dental
Arts Laboratory. Mr. Larry L. Johnson from the architectural firm
of Stein, Hinkle, Dawe, Wood and Johnson and Mr. Walter Britt from
Dental Arts Laboratory were present to explain to the Plumbing
Board the use of the disposable plaster traps, used in the newly
remodeled building for Dental Arts Laboratory.
Joe ..Delaney stated that this type of trap is in violation with
Sections 405(A), 201(B), 401(2) and (D) of the Uniform Plumbing
Code. Mr. Walter Britt stated it is hard to get people to clean
out the old type of plaster traps because of all the diseases and
germs. He feels the disposable type is much safer to work with and
stated some labortories in Detroit use the disposable plaster traps.
After some discussion, the Plumbing Board said they would do some
research and get back with Mr. Johnson with an answer.
Motion by Tom Eifert, seconded by Mr. Bob Burns to adjourn. Motion
carried. Meeting adjourned at 6:55 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Joesph 4DelZane?'
Secretary
"Equal Opportunity Employer"
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS
of the
PLUMBING BOARD MEETING
January 12, 1989
MEMBERS PRESENT: Loren Nichols, Tom Eifert, John Brady, Bob Burns
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Lynn Gunthorpe and Steve Reck
INSPECTOR PRESENT: Joseph Delaney
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Brady at 7:30 p.m. A
motion by Mr. Nichols, seconded by Mr. Burns to approve the minutes
of December 1, 1988. Motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS: The Board asked if the Board of Water and Light
would be following up on reinspection of back flow preventers. The
Board also asked about the appointment of the new Plumbing Inspector.
Mr. Delaney informed them that the process was in Personnel at this
time.
NEW BUSINESS: There was discussion on the year-end report of the
Plumbing Board to be submitted to the Mayor. The Board asked for a
telephone list of all Members.
A motion by Mr. Burns, seconded by Mr. Eifert to adjourn at 9:00
p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Joseph Delaney
Secretary
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Minutes of the Regular Meeting
Board of Zoning Appeals
December 14, 1989 - 7:30 p.m.
City Hall, Council Chambers. 10th floor
The meeting was called to order by Chairperson Mary Clark at 7:30 p.m.
Roll call was taken.
Present
Bernard Christy
Christopher Steele
Edward Spink
Tom Kane
Floyd Wright
Mary Clark
Staff
Excused Absence
Priscilla Holmes
H. Patricia Curran
Unexcused Absence
Grant Hilts
Vern Fountain, Zoning Administrator
Emil Winnicker, Senior Planner
Elizabeth Gunter, Recording Secretary
Kane made a motion to remove appeal #3004, 615 South Capitol from the
table. Second by Spink. Motion carried unanimously.
Winnicker - We have not received a site plan.
Spink made a motion to deny Appeal #3004 for lack of complete infor-
mation. Second by Steele.
Yeas: Spink, Christy, Wright, Kane, Steele, Clark
Nays: none
Appeal #3004 DENIED.
The board denied the request to construct an addition to the front of
the building, 8 feet from the front lot line and 3 feet from the side
lot line. The request was denied due to the lack of information.
Kane made a motion to remove appeal #3014 from the table. Second by
Spink. Motion carried unanimously.
A presentation was given by E. Winnicker. Slides were shown of the
subject property and surrounding land use.
Dan Collard, Management Company for the facility. We were asking for
a 10' setback. We would prefer not to move it closer to the building
because it presents some vehicular and circulation problems within the
parking area. There is an easement that runs along the south side of
the building which we would anticipate some traffic. I would like to
propose that we extending our landscape island back to the maximum
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allowed so that we are still conforming to the 24 ft. width of the
drive for the parking area bringing the sign back to a 15' setback.
Christy made a motion to approve a 15' setback. Second by Wright.
Yeas: Spink, Christy, Wright, Steele, Clark
Nays: Kane
Appeal #3014 APPROVED.
The Board found based on testimony and evidence that a hardship did
exist based on existing adjacent building locations which limit sight
distance from this proposed sign. The Board does not believe the
change will have any adverse impact on existing development.
Appeal #3008 - 740 Stanley
This is a request by Sharon Ballard to receive a variance to the
zoning code that will allow an attached carport to be located on the
south side lot line at 740 Stanley.
A presentation was given by E. Winnicker. Slides were shown of the
subject property and surrounding land use.
The applicant proposes to keep the existing carport.
Sharon Ballard, 740 Stanley,
carport.
Communication
I would like to have the attached
A letter from Mrs. Van Horn, 736 Stanley, perfectly alright as long
as the building is all on tier property and water runoff is drained
with eavestroves onto her property.
Steele made a motion to deny the request. Second by Spink.
Yeas: Wright, Spink, Steele, Christy, Kane, Clark
Nays: none
Appeal #3008 DENIED.
The Board believes that the addition contributes to overcrowding of
the property, and is therefore not in keeping with the general intent
of the Zoning Code.
Since the appeal was denied removal of the structure is requested to
comply with code requirements.
Appeal #3015, 124, 126 and 130 S. Eighth
This is a request by Dale Goodrich for a zoning variance to
rehabilitate 124/126 and 130 South Eighth Street. These buildings
contain 6 apartment units which have been in the process of rehabili-
tation for several ears. The final site plan proposed requires re-
duced parking and exceeds the lot coverage limits set by the zoning
code.
A presentation was given by V. Fountain. Slides were shown of the
subject property and surrounding land use.
The zoning code limits the lot coverage by buildings and hardsurfaced
areas to 60% of the total of any parcel. In this case, the lot cov-
erage totals 76%. This is a request for a 16% lot coverage variance.
The petitioner proposes to complete the rehabilitation on this prop-
erty with a changed parking plan.
Mary Clark, 223 S. Eighth Street, this is part of the Green Oaks
Master Plan and rehabing the property has been in the planning stages
for many years. The parking arrangement is not ideal but its the best
that can be developed considering the site.
Christy made a motion to approve appeal #3015. Second by Kane.
Yeas: Spink, Christy, Kane, Wright, Steele
Nays: none
Abstain: Clark
Appeal #3015 APPROVED.
The Board found based on testimony and evidence that strict applica-
tion of the code presented a hardship when attempting to make im-
provements to the existing development.
The Board further found that approval of this request will further
facilitate the development of the Master Plan for the area and is
therefore in keeping with the general intent of the code.
Appeal #3016 - 2416 East Grand River
This is a request by Ann J. Shannon to receive a variance to retain a
driveway in the front yard wider than is permitted at 2416 East Grand
River Avenue.
A presentation was given by V. Fountain. Slides were shown of the
subject property and surrounding land use.
The Zoning Code allows a driveway 12 feet wide in the front yard where
there is no garage or a one car garage. The subject driveway is 14
feet wide.
Ann Shannon, I would have a problem parking the car and pulling off
the main is street very difficult with oncoming traffic.
Ann Borgan, 2406 East Grand River, next door, there is no house next
door, we have parking access. When Ann moved in she made many im-
provements to the house. It is very difficult to pull out on Grand
River.
A letter from Cleo R. Crisman, 820 N. Foster, giving his consent.
A letter from Elmer & Helen Stinnett, 2500 E. Grand River, there is a
hardship getting cars out of the driveway due to the busy street.
A letter from Donald F & M Gaye Rau, 819 N. Francis Avenue, any size
driveway a homeowner deems necessary to assure safe entrance to the
street for vehicles should be allowed. We have no objection to the
variance.
Christy made a motion to approve appeal #3016. Second by Wright.
Yeas: Christy, Spink, Kane, Steele, Wright, Clark
Nays: none
Appeal #3016 APPROVED.
The Board was satisfied based on testimony and evidence that the
driveway as established does not have any adverse impact on the adja-
cent properties. The Board believes that the drive improves the
safety of residents living at 2416 East Grand River from the stand-
point of accessing this property off Grand River Avenue, a principal
arterial street.
Appeal #3018 - 510 Crestview
This is a request by Mario Pascotta of 510 Crestview Avenue to receive
a variance to allow the driveway to remain wider than 12 feet in the
front yard.
A presentation was given by V. Fountain. Slides were shown of the
subject property and surrounding land use.
The Zoning Code allows the driveway to be 12 feet wide in the front
yard. The driveway is, at its widest, 21.2 feet wide.
The petitioner proposes to convert the attached garage into a bedroom
and storage room while retaining a driveway 21.2 feet wide in the
front yard.
Dave Muley, 301 Rumsey, contractor, all we are asking for is to have
it remain as it is now. We do not want to cut the concrete out and
put grass in there. The side of the house is used for parking now.
There is limited space for parking.
Communication
A letter from Ray Hurshman, 511 Crestview does not object to the
variance request.
A letter from Mr. & Mrs. Frederick Romanan, 506 Crestview, whatever
they want to do to improve their home or property is fine with us.
Spink made a motion to deny appeal #3018. Second by Steele.
Yeas: Kane, Spink, Steele, Christy, Wright, Clark
Nays: none
Appeal #3018 DENIED.
The Board found based on testimony and evidence that the existing ga-
rage was to be converted into living and storage area, and a new
driveway developed along the west side of the home.
It was understood that the existing drive would be maintained up to
the front of the garage door.
The Board does not believe that there is a hardship related to this
request since there is an alternative to the off-street requirements
which is being provided along the west side of the lot. When reason-
able alternatives exist the Board does not encourage front yard park-
ing. The attached sketch indicates the alternative to front yard
parking.
Appeal #3019 - 725 East Saginaw Street
This is a request by Clark & Co. to receive a variance from the
zoning code that will allow for the operation of a health club at 725
East Saginaw Street.
A presentation was given by E. Winnicker. Slides were shown of the
subject property and surrounding land use.
The code specifies that a health club shall not be located within 300
feet of tale property line of any residentially zoned district. In
this case the building proposed to be used is located within 50 feet
of the property zoned for residential use.
Tile applicant proposes to operate a coed health club primarily dance
classes.
Kane - Will they be occuping the entire building?
Winnicker - No.
Are there other tenants in the building?
Winnicker - Yes.
Lori Joy, 725 E. Saginaw, representing Clark & Co. Clark & Co. has
been in Lansing for over 10 years. All we are doing is offering
classes in aeorbics, weight training, different types of workshops
pertaining to health and exercise.
Gary Mc Cartel, I work for the Eyde Company who owns the building.
What we are trying to do is renovate the building and keep it commer-
cial and professional businesses. By doing that we would be able to
have the use of the building, which has been vacant for about 5 years.
This would increase the tax base for everyone considered. It would be
a good situation for the neighborhood because it would be professional
rather than industrial. We do have 1400-500 parking places.
Joy Muten, 821 E. Saginaw, opposes the request.
Steele made a motion to approve appeal #3019. Second by Christy.
Yeas: Spink, Christy, Wright, Kane, Steele, Clark
Nays: none
Appeal #3019 APPROVED.
The Board found based on testimony and evidence that the site is zoned
'I' Heavy Industrial which allows the proposed use, and the required
off-street parking is available.
Appeal #3020 - 2423 South Cedar
This is a request by Art Baryames to receive a variance from the
zoning code that will allow for the placement of a free standing sign
ten feet from the front property line off South Cedar and five feet
from the front property line off Tisdale Street on property located at
2423 South Cedar.
A presentation was given by E. Winnicker. Slides were shown of the
subject property and surrounding land use.
The zoning code establishes that the front yard setback in the 'G-2'
Wholesale District is 20 feet.
The applicant proposes to relocate the free standing sign on the north
end of the property to accommodate the relocation of the retail outlet
portion of the business and the widening of South Cedar.
Art Baryames, my property is undergoing a dramatic change right now
due to the widening of South Cedar Street. I feel it is important to
my business to have a sign. I am limited to where I can place a sign.
A motion was made to approve a 10 ft. setback off South Cedar Street.
Second.
Yeas: Spink, Wright, Steele, Kane, Clark
Nays: none
Appeal #3020 Approved for a 10' setback off S. Cedar Street.
Spink made a motion to deny a 5' setback off Tisdale.
Yeas: Wright, Spink, Steele, Christy, Kane, Clark
Nays: none
Appeal #3020 Denied a 5' setback off Tisdale.
The Board was satisfied that the request to vary the setback ten feet
off South Cedar Street was a reasonable request due to the impending
widening of South Cedar Street and the resultant reduction of the
available front yard in the block face.
The Board denied the request to vary the setback off Tisdale Street
because the alternative exists to meet the code requirement without
harm to your business and no legitimate hardship or practical diffi-
culty exists to justify that part of your appeal.
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1990 Agenda
Spink made a motion to approve the BZA 1990 Agenda Calendar. Second
by Steele. Motion carried unanimously.
Minutes
Spink made a motion to approve the amended November 9, 1989 minutes.
Second by Steele. Motion carried unanimously.
B. Christy requested an excused absence for the February and March
meetings. Spink made a motion to approve. Second by Steele. Motion
carried unanimously.
There being no further business the meeting adjourned at 9:15 p.m.
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OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS
of the
PLUMBING BOARD MEETING
May 11, 1989
MEMBERS PRESENT: Loren Nichols, John Brady, Bob Burns, Steven Reck
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Lynn Gunthorpe, Tom Eifert
INSPECTOR PRESENT: Joseph Delaney
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Brady at 7:30 p.m. A
motion by Mr. Burns, seconded by Mr. Nichols, to approve the minutes
of April 13, 1989 was made. Motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS: A motion was made by Mr. Nichols that Mr. George
McNamara's drain layer be renewed with a letter sent to Public
Service. The motion was seconded by Steve Reck and carried
unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS: A drain layers examination.' was held for one applicant:
Steve Scarborough, with a passing grade of 88%. Mr. Rodge Zeeff,
from the Board of Water and Light, was present to discuss the program
the Board has on rechecking the backflow preventor. Mr. Brady said
the Plumbing Board would like to work with the Board of Water and
Light so that the city be in compliance with the State Health Depart-
ment.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:30 p.m. by a motion from Mr. Burns,
supported by Mr. Nichols.
Respectfully submitted,
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Secretary
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"OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS
of the
PLUMBING BOARD MEETING
April 13, 1989
MEMBERS PRESENT: Loren Nichols, Tom Eifert, Bob Burns, John Brady
MEMBERS ABSENT: Lynn Gunthorpe
INSPECTOR PRESENT: Joseph Delaney
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Brady at 7:30 p.m. A
motion by Mr. Nichols, seconded by Mr. Eifert to approve the minutes
of the March 9, 1989, with the following change; the third sentence
under "New Business" should read signature notarized as
required by Ordinance 814." Motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS: None
NEW BUSINESS: There was discussion about the Board of Water &
Lights Cross -Connection Program. The Members asked Mr. Delaney to
request the person responsible for administering the Cross -Connection
Program to attend the next Plumbing Board meeting, and to bring
copies of the Program approved by the Health Department.
Mr. Delaney reported that the number of Plumbing Permits are off by
40 from last years record number. Mr. Delaney also updated the
Members on several plumbing projects that he discovered were com-
pleted without permits. Permits were obtained and double fees
charged.
Motion by Mr. Nichols, second by Mr. Burns to adjourn at 9:00 p.m.
Motion carried.
Respectfully submitted,
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Joseph Delaney
Secretary
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS
of the
PLUMBING BOARD MEETING
March 9, 1989
MEMBERS PRESENT: Loren Nichols, Tom Eifert, John Brady, Bob Burns
and Lynn Gunt orpe
MEMBER ABSENT: Steven Reck
INSPECTOR PRESENT: Joseph Delaney
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Brady at 7:30 p.m. A
motion by Mr. Brady, seconded by Mr. Eifert to approve the minutes
of February 9, 1989. Motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS: There was discussion on barrier free plumbing fixtures.
NEW BUSINESS: Dave Card, Public Service Department, was at the
meeting to see what procedure the Board used to give the Drain
Layer's examination. There was considerable discussion on the
procedure and application. The Board stated that they follow City
Ordinance No. 814 which requires applicants to fill out an application
providing sufficient proof of experience by the employer and the
employers signature notarized as required by Chapter 814. The
Members stated they were glad Mr. Card attended the meeting and
looked forward to working with him and helping him in any way they
can. It was moved by Mr. Burns, seconded by Mr. Gunthorpe, that
the application from Merlyn Eary be notarized by her employers and
she would be able to take the test at the next meeting. Motion
carried.
The meeting adjourned at 9:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
`Joseph Delaney
Secretary
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OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS
of the
PLUMBING BOARD MEETING
February 9, 1989
MEMBERS PRESENT: Steve Reck, Loren Nichols, Tom Eifert, John Brady,
Bob Burns, Lynn Gunthorpe
INSPECTOR PRESENT: Joseph Delaney
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Brady at 7:30 p.m. A
motion by Mr. Nichols, seconded by Mr. Eifert, to approve the minutes
of January 12, 1989. Motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS: Ganton Retirement Center variance, which gave approval
from installing garbage disposals in the living units, was reviewed
by the Board. The Board expressed their disappointment in the
Building Board of Appeals granting a variance to the Plumbing Code
requirements. Granting this variance will result in the tenants
having to place food waste in their trash creating an attraction
for insects and rodents.
NEW BUSINESS: A motion by Mr. Gunthorpe, seconded by Mr. Nichols,
to approve the ACO Oil Separator for use in the Lotter Building.
Motion carried.
The Board reviewed samples of aluminum D.W.U. pipe by A/CAN Pipe.
Respectfully submitted,
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Joseph Delaney
Secretary
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS
of the
PLUMBING BOARDING MEETING
September 14, 1989
MEMBERS PRESENT: Steven Reck, Loren Nichols, John Brady and Lynn
Gunthorpe
MEMBERS ABSENT: Bob Burns and Tom Eifert
INSPECTOR PRESENT: Joseph Delaney
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Brady at 7:30 p.m. A
motion by Mr. Gunthorpe, seconded by Mr. Reck to approve the minutes of
the business meetings held on May 11, 1989 and the special meeting of
August 10, 1989. Motion carried.
ELECTION OF OFFICERS: Mr. John Brady was re-elected as Chairman. Mr.
Tom Eifert was elected as Vice -Chairman.
OLD BUSINESS: At the Special Meeting held August 10, 1989, to discuss
the Dental Laboratories, the Board felt the plaster trap which was used
in the remodeling of the building is not code approved. The Board did
consider Mr. Walter Britt's request and could understand his concern
for his employees' safety from disease. The trap would not be handled
by his employees. The Board agreed that Mr. Britt could use the
disposable plaster trap providing he sent a report to the Chief Plumbing
Inspector after one year on how the traps are holding up and a letter
to the Plumbing Board taking full responsibility for any problems result-
ing from the disposable plaster trap.
NEW BUSINESS: Installation and utility hook-ups to mobil homes was
discussed. New material which the State approved was also discussed.
Motion by Mr. Nichols, seconded by Mr. Gunthorpe to adjourn the meeting.
Respectfully submitted,
Joseph Delaney
Secretary
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS
of the
PLUMBING BOARD MEETING
OCTOBER 12, 1989
MEMBERS PRESENT: Loren Nichols, John Brady, Bob Burns, Steven
Reck, Tom Eifert
MEMBERS ABSENT: Lynn Gunthorpe
INSPECTOR PRESENT: Joe Delaney
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Brady at 7:30 p.m. A
motion by Mr. Eifert, seconded by Mr. Burns to approve the minutes
of September 13, 1989. Motion carried.
OLD BUSINESS: The Plumbing Board requested of Joe Delaney, Chief
Plumbing Inspector, to contact Mr. Roger Zeeb, Board of Water and
Light, regarding procedure and update on the reinspection of the
back flow prevention which is required by the State of Michigan,
Department of Health. The Board also requested a copy of the Bill
be obtained from the Health Department.
NEW BUSINESS: Application for Drain Layers examination was
discussed. Mr. Delaney to check on Christmas Dinner reservations.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:26 p.m. on a motion from Mr. Reck,
seconded by Mr. Burns.
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Respectful s bmi tted,
Joseph Delaney
Secretary
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS
of the
PLUMBING BOARD MEETING
December 14, 1989
MEMBERS PRESENT: Loren Nichols, John Brady, Bob Burns, Steven
Reck, Lynn Gunthorpe and Tom Eifert
INSPECTOR PRESENT: Joe Delaney and Frank Eirosius
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Brady at 7:30 p.m. A
motion was made by Mr. Reck, supported by Mr. Gunthorpe to approve
the minutes of October 13, 1989. Motion carried
OLD BUSINESS: The Board requested further study on the procedure
of reinspection of the back flow preventer, and asked what agency
will be taking responsibility required by law to reinspect them.
NEW BUSINESS: The Drain Layers examination was given to two appli-
cants; Bill Boughton - who looked over the test and said he was not
ready to take it. He stated he would return in the near future;
and Orale "Jack" Chapma. Mr. Chapma scored 68%. 70% is needed to
pass.
The Board was presented with Schedule "C", Plumbing Inspection fees,
for their review. Mr. Delaney explained that approximately an 8%
increase -was made overall. There was some discussion on the fees,
but the Board supported the increases.
The Board unanimously agreed that any equipment heating device, ie.
hot water heaters, or anything that has potable water filling it,
and all back flow preventers which are covered by U.P.C. Chapters
9, 10, 12 and 13 shall be done by a licensed master plumber with a
Plumbing Permit from the City of Lansing, Building Safety.
Public Act 135 was discussed. The Board agreed that it would
create more paperwork.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:30 p.m. on a motion from Mr. Eifert,
supported by Mr. Nichols.
Respectfully submitted,
Repectf 11yh�,�bmi ted,
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Joseph Delaney
Secretary