HomeMy WebLinkAbout2014 Park Board Minutes PARK BOARD MINUTES
Foster Community Center
January 8, 2014
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rick Kibbey, Olivia Martin, Patricia Pisano, Patricia Spitzley
MEMBERS ABSENT: Dusty Fancher, Paul Holland, Adam Hussain
OTHERS PRESENT: Brett Kaschinske, Parks and Recreation Director; Kellie Brown, Board Secretary
CALLED TO ORDER: 7:05 p.m.
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Master Plan
Kaschinske introduced Joe Wright who is currently a contract employee with Public Service. Joe has experience writing
master plans and will be working on the Parks master plan.
Kaschinske provided a list of goals and objectives to the Board.
Wright stated he started to review the existing plan in November and had a meeting afterward to discuss the goal
setting process, objectives and to identify what is needed.
The plan allows the department to apply for grants; however you no longer need to follow the order in which the goals
are submitted.
Wright has updated the basic information such as dates, council and board members. A lot of the mandatory
information does not change so about 85%of the current document will not change, but the goals and objectives will
change.
He will take the list of goals and objectives provided and spend the next month writing and developing the plan. Early to
late spring it should be to the point to start surveys and hold public meetings to receive input. Late this year or early
next year the plan will be ready to present to Council. There is no penalty to having the plan done prior to April 1, 2015.
Kaschinske stated along with meetings we will need to utilize social media to obtain the input and results we require.
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Kibbey stated when he was working on the City's master plan they had fifty neighborhood meetings. The key to the
success of those meetings was being prepared and knowing the questions people were going to ask. Kibbey stated he
likes the time schedule laid out for this. The Board will do their work in the winter and spring to get ready, and the
neighborhood groups will meet in the summer and fall. Kibbey stated the Board will need to decide how to use the
demographics and will need to set standards.
Martin inquired where the standards would go within the document.
Spitzley stated the Boards work is to reevaluate park inventory and naturalization, decide what to discuss and be
prepared to answer questions.
Kaschinske stated he did not put park inventory on the list. If park inventory(disposal) is on the August or November
2014 ballet, along with a potential county wide millage of some kind,those will be jackpot items.
Kibbey stated this is a much better way to approach this. He would much rather have held several meetings regarding
the process and have already engaged people rather than putting a letter out about closing or disposing of a property.
Spitzley agreed and it needs to be made part of a larger strategy when looking at the master plan.
Kaschinske mentioned the millage vote will be in 2015.
Wright stated all meetings and surveys regarding the plan will take place in 2014 and the only process that will take
place in 2015 is Councils vote and the adoption of the plan.
Wright stated at this time there are six goals, each with several objectives. He recommended a public meeting for each
individual goal to involve the people who are interested in that particular topic and focus on that goal.
Spitzley stated this could be done as part of the Board's monthly meeting. Each month the Board would discuss one
goal and receive public input.
Kaschinske stated prior to the meeting we would need to have the general survey ready and ask Lansing Neighborhood
Council to distribute it to their entire list, and also to the LPD neighborhood watch groups.
Spitzley agreed. The survey needs to be started first, a general statement made on the purpose, lay out the meeting and
what goal will be presented at the meeting. This would need to be done each month and distributed to the media.
Kaschinske stated he would work with Randy Hannan to coordinate with the media.
Wright stated the meetings could start in April, continue through September and in October do a recap meeting. This
would give him the information he needs in October to incorporate and explain the process in the plan.
Kibbey does not like to do surveys first thing, but prefers to do them in the middle or at the end of the meeting
schedule. Kaschinske stated surveys are not a requirement, but he has not seen a plan without them.
Kaschinske stated the one thing he has found effective with surveys, is not the check a box, but when people can write
out their thoughts and comments.
Kibbey requested meeting with Wright to write up an outreach strategy, discuss demographics, and would defer to the
Parks professionals for the standards.
Kaschinske inquired if the Board will be holding these meetings on the second Wednesday at Foster.
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Spitzley stated she does not think having the meetings at Foster are an issue if the Board also visits community and
neighborhood meetings.
Wright stated at the end of every major CSO project, Public Service does a picnic in the community to hand out surveys
and get feedback about the project and thank the neighborhood for enduring the project. He would recommend maybe
three times throughout the summer and Board Members could be in attendance to answer questions.
Kibbey stated MDOT and several other institutions use a method of setting a specific meeting place and time, setting up
boards with information and having a person in attendance to answer questions. This method seems to work to capture
information.
Spitzley stated they are similar to an informal meet and greet. There could be a station for each goal with a Board
Member at each station to answer questions. This could be done for one-half hour or forty-five minutes, but you still
have to have the formal meetings where comment is taken on the record. The meet and greet is successful because
people feel like they are actually being heard more so than in a formal public meeting.
Wright inquired if this is the final goal list or is there more discussion.
Spitzley inquired if more board members are required. Kibbey stated yes he would like a couple more members
present.
Kaschinske stated he would e-mail it to members for input and it would be a discussion item for next time.
Martin disagreed because this has been discussed at the last two meetings and she does not think there will be better
attendance, maybe only different attendance. It may be valuable to discuss here, have it recorded in the minutes and
approve it at the next meeting.
Martin inquired what a riparian buffer is. Kaschinske stated it is vegetation for a natural buffer for erosion control at the
edge of water.
Martin inquired if we are having trouble with them not being repaired or restored. Kaschinske stated there is always
battle of opinion; people want to see the river, they want access right to the edge yet we still need a buffer.
Martin stated she would like to advocate for language so the parks are seeking out what the different and changing
populations of Lansing are.
Kaschinske stated he does not have a problem with it, but he was concerned with not having enough objectives for it.
Martin stated there are not many, but community gardens could be part of it. River access could be put in with trails,
paving, and walking. River access objectives one, two and four could coordinate into trails.
The following changes were made under Storm Water Management to eliminate it as a goal: item three and four were
moved to Naturalization; one was placed under Trees; and two and five were moved to River Access.
Martin asked to remove number four from Naturalization and create a new goal for population.
Kaschinske stated he would work on a revised list and create a new goal title for population. Wright inquired if this
could be completed and approved before the next meeting.
Kaschinske inquired if anything needs to be deleted. Objectives may be added if necessary.
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Spitzley stated the goals have to be established before the public meetings. Objectives may be changed, but the goals
have to be set.
Kaschinske stated there is plenty of information from the public that is in the current plan, but it did not make it as a
goal.
Wright stated the public needs to understand this is a planning document and it is not set in stone.
Kibbey stated if these are going to be the goals, then they will not change. Most of these are growth and new items, but
we need to include playgrounds, etc.
Wright reminded the Board the audience for this document is the Department of Natural Resources and grants are the
objective of this plan.
Articles of Incorporation
Kibbey stated the paperwork has been filed. The next two steps are the 501c3 application and application to the
Attorney General's office to solicit funds.
Spitzley inquired how this will work for current Board Members to be on the foundation board.
Kibbey stated he would review other boards' guidelines. Kaschinske stated one interesting document he received from
the County was how county employees interact with the foundation, but he would also check it for information on their
boards' interaction.
Kibbey stated there would be two focuses of this group; one is a fundraising role and the second is the development and
nurturing of the friends' network.
Annual Report
Kibbey stated the annual report used to be a larger project when the Board was more involved with the budget process.
Kibbey and Spitzley will work on the 2013 annual report. Kaschinske will send the department's annual report and have
the board's last annual report and 2013 minutes e-mailed to Kibbey and Spitzley for information.
UPDATES
Storm—Trees
Kaschinske stated we did well to get the emergencies taken care of. Within one month all the hazards should be out of
the way, such as hanging limbs, trees on sidewalks and roads, and in right of ways. Washington Park is a drop site for
debris. There is a possibility the City may contract out the tree removal list.
Kibbey inquired if Forestry staff were plowing or removing trees. Kaschinske stated they were plowing but are now
taking care of trees and Public Service is helping with brush removal.
Kaschinske stated there is some River Trail blockage and North Cemetery is closed except for burials.There will be a lot
of trimming in the future because there are a lot of wounded trees.
Meeting adjourned.
Respectfully Submitted: Kellie Brown, Park Board Secretary
Approved April 16, 2014
PARK BOARD MINUTES
Foster Community Center
February 12, 2014
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rick Kibbey, Adam Hussain, Paul Holland, Patricia Pisano
MEMBERS ABSENT: Dusty Fancher, Patricia Spitzley, Olivia Martin
OTHERS PRESENT: Brett Kaschinske, Parks and Recreation Director; Kellie Brown, Board Secretary
CALLED TO ORDER: 7:05 p.m.
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Master Plan—Goals& Obiectives
A revised list was provided to the board. Olivia Martin's request for a diversity goal was added as Diversity Recreational
Opportunities. Martin responded in an e-mail she was satisfied with the addition.
Kibbey stated additions may be made to this as the process progresses.
Annual Report
Kaschinske stated at the last meeting Rick Kibbey and Patricia Spitzley volunteered to work on this report. Minutes of
the entire year for 2013 and the last annual report were e-mailed to Kibbey and Spitzley last month for their
information.
Articles of Incorporation
Kibbey stated the Articles of Incorporation have been filed. The next step is a work plan; since this is a 501c3 it is not
under control by another organization. The Board will continue to be updated.
Kaschinske stated at the last meeting he said he would check with Ingham County if they have park commissioners on
the foundation board. He stated they have two board members that cross over to the foundation board.
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Red Cedar Park(added)
Kibbey stated the Board moved to sell some or all of Red Cedar Park. This is currently being considered. The
development team isn't officially selected yet but it is being narrowed down. They are in town this evening and doing a
presentation.
Kibbey stated there are two issues; one is retaining some of the land as a park since there are flood plain and flood way
areas in the park. In a flood way there are restrictions on what can be done and one is a park.
The second issue is who would own the park. There has been discussion by one of the developers that they should own
the park because of certain levels of maintenance; that discussion has expanded to reflect the current reality which is all
the parks are currently under contract for mowing.
Kibbey stated the city and the board are still in this mix. There will be a public process and if the plan is not approved by
City Council there will not be a sale.
Pisano inquired if the ball field is part of the park. Kaschinske stated the legal description was for Red Cedar Golf Course
and Kircher was not part of it.
Kaschinske stated he would check on the description and would report next month.
Kibbey stated there are several people, groups and organizations involved in this plan. The current plan is receiving
negative reviews.
UPDATES
Friends of Lansing River Trail
Friends of Lansing River Trail have filed their Articles of Incorporation. The new group was mentioned in the State of the
City address. They have been contacted by Ingham County Park Commission to see how the group may assist with the
county wide millage.
Kaschinske stated he is looking at volunteer projects for the group to do along the River Trail. The group will be assisting
with mile markers and signage, as well as a system to provide location markers for LPD.
Kibbey stated late last summer the city approached the county with a county wide millage proposal. Kibbey inquired if
there is current language for the millage.
Kaschinske stated language as been approved by the County Park Commission, but not by the Board of Commissioners.
Turner Dodge
Kaschinske had e-mailed out an update and list of items damaged from the Pemberton Collection. Also, the staff person
who was working at Turner Dodge,Jennifer McDaniels, has resigned effective immediately.
Kibbey stated the Zoo Board is collaborating with Fenner Nature Center on joint programming and this maybe the time
for the Friends of Turner to collaborate programming.
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CDBG Projects
Kaschinske stated there is money available for projects through the Community Development Block Grants and he only
has a short time to do projects. The deadline for completion is April 26, 2014 so it needs to be projects that can be done
in the weather we are experiencing. The following items will be done for a total of$260,000:
- 3 Playgrounds installed—one at Davis Park, Gier Ballfields and Letts Community Center
- 3 Electronic Outdoor signs will be installed at Letts Center, Gier Ballfields and Foster Center
- Gier Center will be updated with interior LED lights.
Grand Woods Park
Delta Township has committed to a 2 year agreement and they will pay for the appraisal of the land.
Blue Ways
A Tri-County Blue Way task force is being put together for the Grand and Red Cedar Rivers for marketing and future
vision of recreational use on the two rivers.
Mt. Hope Cemetery
There will be a $42,000 Fratcher Grant for fiscal year 2015 (July 1, 2014) for Mt. Hope Cemetery for the following
projects:
- Tree Planting
- Tree removal
- Stump grinding
- Fratcher Memorial Gardens sign for the basin
- Road removal and plotting new graves in Section T
- Gazebo in the basin area
- Perennial and bulb planting throughout the cemetery
- Seal basin walkway
Meeting adjourned
Respectfully Submitted: Kellie Brown, Park Board Secretary
Approved April 16, 2014
PARK BOARD MINUTES
Foster Community Center
September 10, 2014
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rick Kibbey, Adam Hussain, Paul Holland, Olivia Martin, Rita O'Brien
MEMBERS ABSENT: Veronica Gracia-Wing
OTHERS PRESENT: Willis Bennett, Ingham County Parks Director; Brett Kaschinske, Parks and Recreation Director;
Kellie Brown, Board Secretary
CALLED TO ORDER: 7:00 p.m.
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BOARD MEETING MINUTES
Paul Holland moved to approve the April 23, 2014; May 14, 2014 and June 11, 2014 minutes as submitted. Seconded by
Adam Hussain. 5 yeas; 0 nays.
Motion carried
NEW BUSINESS
Election of Officers
Rick Kibbey opened floor to nominations. Adam Hussain nominated Rick Kibbey for Board President; Adam Hussain
approved the motion, Olivia Martin seconded. No other nominations were made; passed unanimously.
Paul Holland nominated Adam Hussain for Board Vice-President; Paul Holland approved the motion, Olivia Martin
seconded. No other nominations were made; passed unanimously.
Willard Walker Memorial
Brett Kaschinske stated this is to re-name St.Joe Park after Willard Walker. Kaschinske reviewed the application
submitted for the renaming.
Paul Holland asked to table this item until more research is completed. Board voted 5 yeas; 0 nays.
Comcast Easement
Brett Kaschinske explained this involves Grand River Park and reviewed the map and described the location. This
easement would run south behind the businesses on Old Lansing Road before the roadway entrance. Comcast would be
paying for this utility easement.
Rick Kibbey clarified Comcast is asking for utility easement and to use the utility easement.
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Paul Holland inquired if this is above or below ground. Kaschinske stated he would need to check.
Rick Kibbey asked what is currently in the utility easement. Kaschinske stated there is water, but he would need to
confirm what else is in the easement.
Rick Kibbey stated he would want to know what is in the utility easement, would this preclude additional use of the
utility easement.
Paul Holland inquired about the right-of-way rights and is it a State determined rate or it is negotiated. Brett Kaschinske
stated it is negotiated with each utility, but we did have a utility not get permission but proceeded with the installation.
Brett Kaschinske clarified the Board wants to know if this is underground or above,what else is in the utilities.
Rick Kibbey also wants to know if this inhibits additional uses of the easement.
Brett Kaschinske stated he would provide this information in an e-mail and it will be tabled until October for action.
Hawk Island Easement
Willis Bennett stated he is asking the City of Lansing for an easement for a small piece of property at Scott Woods on the
north end of Hawk Island. Bennett reviewed the photos. The run-out which is the bottom of the sled hill protrudes into
an area of the dog park which was a muddy area. What the county would like to do is expand the run out of the tubing
hill about 40 or 50 feet for safety issues. He is asking for an easement for the small area in Scott Woods.
Brett Kaschinske asked Bennett to explain the vegetation. Bennett stated there's a couple of well-established Sycamore
trees that the County does not want to remove, but there is a lot of scrub brush that would be removed.
Rick Kibbey stated when this originally came up he questioned the sensitivity of Scott Woods as a flooded hardwood
area. He reviewed the area and is satisfied with the cutting the County is doing, which is minimal. A berm was also
discussed to prevent people walking off into woods. Bennett stated there will be about a 12 foot snow berm created.
Brett Kaschinske stated he also discussed with Bennett about the neighbors and the noise of the snow machines running
in the evening. Bennett stated they terminated the current contract for snow making and the County will be running the
snow machines to eliminate the noise. Also, this season will be focused on tubing instead of snowboarding, which draws
a different clientele. The operational hours have also been reduced and will not be open during the week unless it is a
special event or group event.
Willis Bennett stated if the easement is not granted the County would have to keep the shorter run which takes away
from the visitor experience. Kaschinske inquired about the spring thaw and the runoff. Bennett stated it naturally drains
out on its own and he talking with the City's engineering department about a drain into the storm drain or it will go back
into the lake at Hawk Island.
Paul Holland moved to approve the easement for the County; seconded by Olivia Martin. 5 yeas; 0 nays
Motion carried
OLD BUSINESS
Moores Park Pool
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Brett Kaschinske stated Moores Park pool had a rough year due to weather; we also had some problems with
maintenance. What is needed from the Park Board is to evaluate the future of Moores Park pool. It has been
mentioned at past meetings to involve the neighborhood association with discussions. We are looking at an excess of
$750,000, and are these repairs the best use of resources or do we look at other avenues for that facility.
Rick Kibbey stated there should be a census report established on the number of kids in the area. Paul Holland asked for
attendance for the past few years. Olivia Martin asked for data on the pool since it is historic.
Brett Kaschinske stated there was a presentation done this summer by Valerie Marvin and the Historical Society. Kibbey
asked for a copy of the presentation.
Rick Kibbey stated discussion should take place with the Board first to determine what should be asked of the
neighborhood.
Park Inventory
Brett Kaschinske stated there will be two ballot initiatives on the November ballot; one will be for Grand Woods Park
and the other will be for Miller Road Center. Both passed through Council by 8 to 0. We are waiting for an appraisal
from Delta Township for Grand Woods Park. Although we currently cannot enter into a purchasing agreement,
Peppermint Creek Theatre is interested in Miller Road. Permission to sell will come from the voters in November, but
that still does not complete the sale. There would need to be public hearings and Council would need to vote on the
sales agreement.
UPDATES
Crego Park Opening
Brett Kaschinske stated it was a very good day. There were children from Foster Kids Camp and Fenner Camp.
Rivertown Kayak provided kayaks, canoes and a paddle board for kids to try. Project FISH provided bait and poles for
everyone; Lansing Police GREAT program provided bikes and took kids on the River Trail. The ribbon cutting took place
on the ADA accessible canoe dock. ENG provided a cookout lunch. City TV filmed the event and had aerial pictures of
the lake.
Volunteer Tool Trailer
Brett Kaschinske stated there is a meeting scheduled with the Capital Region Community Foundation to take a look at
the trailer. The trailer will be pulled out to one of the sites where we had Michigan State Police do a volunteer project at
Burchard Park.
Troy Stowell/Mark Simon
Troy Stowell was the Lifetime Sports Coordinator and he has left the City and accepted the position of Quality of Life
Director for the City of Eaton Rapids. Mark Simon is the Lifetime Sports Supervisor and he is off on FMLA until October
7, 2014.
Riverwalk—Michigan Avenue
Brett Kaschinske reviewed photos of the River Trail across from the Lansing Center and the steps that lead to Impression
5. They have reviewed the corrosion damage of the supports and wood steps on the south side of the river and the
steps have been closed off and will be removed. The River Trail is open at this time, but it may need to be closed at a
later date. Access may still be obtained by going along Museum Drive to City Market and back onto the River Trail.
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REO Town Art Attack
Paul Holland thanked the Parks Department for working with the project and Joy at REACH Studio.
Board Member Remarks
Olivia Martin stated she wanted to talk about the Recreation half of the department that does not get discussed often.
Martin stated she has had some experience with it recently and was blown away. She and her husband have a Foster
child that is of tween age. They looked everywhere and found Lansing Parks had the widest variety of things they could
offer her to do. The programs were convenient, accommodating, the staff enjoyed their jobs and it was a safe place.
Meeting adjourned
Respectfully Submitted: Kellie Brown, Park Board Secretary
Approved December 10, 2014
PARK BOARD MEETING
Foster Community Center
October 8, 2014
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rick Kibbey, Adam Hussain, Rita O'Brien, Veronica Gracia-Wing
MEMBERS ABSENT: Paul Holland
OTHERS PRESENT: Brett Kaschinske, Parks and Recreation Director; Kellie Brown, Board Secretary; Brian Baer;
Debbie Mikula, Arts Council of Greater Lansing; Amy Valleau, Paul Johns, Moores Park
Neighborhood Association; Dwight Washington.
CALLED TO ORDER: 7:00 p.m.
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September 10, 2014 Park Board minutes were tabled to November due to lack of quorum.
NEW BUSINESS
Art Policy
Debbie Mikula from the Arts Council of Greater Lansing stated the purpose of this policy is to allow neighborhood
associations to apply for the LEAP public art grant. The City of Lansing did not have a policy statement for the creation
of public and LEAP recommended creating a policy since it is mandatory to have one in order to apply for their grant.
The Arts Council had been working with city staff to create an arts commission and Councilmember Jessica Yorko started
to create a policy statement. The City and Arts Council came together about 4 months ago, when this was adopted. This
policy was not to use an arts commission or people who have a commitment to art but to use what has already been
created in the city, which is what the Parks Commission and Public Service Commission have. Depending on where
someone wants to put a piece of public art will determine who will talk through the policy. The Arts Council had many
individuals involved during this process who want to become involved in creating more interest in putting more public
art in the City. This policy puts a process in place and the Arts Council would like to help the Park Board move some of
this policy forward.
Brett Kaschinske stated in reading through the resolution it is recommended the Park Board establish criteria for scoring
and criteria to be included in any RFP (request for proposal) and inquired if this meant the Board would send out RFP.
Debbie Mikula stated the Board does not have to, but they had to establish a couple areas of the policy and this was
taken from either Delta Township or Delhi Township. They took a policy from another community which fit the City of
Lansing. Mikula is offering the expertise of the Arts Council on how to do the scoring and put review panels in place to
be part of this process.
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Brett Kaschinske stated with the Board policy there is a lot of criteria listed but not necessarily point totals. The other
question is in the past we have had donated art and what do we do with it, how much needs to be paid to transport it,
install it, secure it and maintain it.
Debbie Mikula stated that would be part of Parks Board responsibility to determine if it is worth it, is there a budget for
it, etc. The Arts Council can assist the board with decisions.
Rick Kibbey stated we may see a couple of these a year. This is already an issue and this is an opportunity to put a
process in place. Kibbey suggested if there is a board member really interested he would like a committee of two board
members to meet and clarify details of this policy. Rita O'Brien and Brett Kaschinske will meet with the Arts Council.
This policy allows the City to apply for a $10,000 LEAP grant each year for public art.
Adam Hussain asked for clarification on the objectives of the committee.
Rick Kibbey stated the committee is to come back to the board with an analysis of what will be required.
Brett Kaschinske stated we need to be sure the Parks policy refers to the resolution passed by Council.
Willard Walker Memorial
Brett Kaschinske stated the Board wanted a copy of the criteria for naming parks which was included in the packet. The
Board has all the information provided to review and prepare to discuss and vote when there is a quorum. Within the
guidelines established it states a destination park cannot be named after someone who is still living. This is one issue
that would need to be discussed and also is St.Joe Park considered a destination park.
Comcast
Brett Kaschinske answered the questions from the September board meeting; installation will be below ground and will
be buried utilizing directional drilling methods, no roads will be disturbed and any vegetation that is disturbed will be
restored. Storm sewer lines will be crossed at several locations at a shallow depth, water and sanitary lines exist south
of the road and this is north of the road. It is only after Comcast crosses the road will the above lines need to be
avoided.
Included in the utility easement and with this preclude additional use of the easement. There are various easements
that we have for storm sewer any future improvements could co-exist with this easement.
The final question was does the new line inhibit additional uses; it will in a limited way but not no more than existing
utilities that inhibit the site; the more utility lines, the more restrictions that will be put in place.
Comcast will be coming into the park property at Grand River Park, running along the entrance drive, cutting underneath
the entrance drive through the park and down to the Michigan Princess.
Rick Kibbey verified this is to service the Michigan Princess; Kaschinske stated yes. Kibbey inquired what the city is being
paid. Kaschinske stated all costs are being covered by Comcast.
Park Millage Timeline
Brett Kaschinske wanted to discuss this and establish a group for the August 2015 millage renewal. He would like the
board to put together a committee,there is a treasurer already in place and to start preparing a timeline.
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Brett Kaschinske stated this is a renewal and it generates approximately$1.8 million dollars.
Rick Kibbey stated this is a mid-level election that is not as intense as a council race, but it is not as easy as a CATA
millage. This usually involves putting together what the millage is, provide the language and that it is not a new tax, but
a renewal. Provide information what was obtained with the last millage funds. If the Park Board does not step up and
carry the load the renewal could be in jeopardy quickly.
Adam Hussain inquired what the board needs to do.
Rick Kibbey stated attend neighborhood meetings, distribute literature and explain the millage, put out yard signs,
obtain endorsements and send out letters which usually includes the endorsements.
Brett Kaschinske stated it is good to utilize resources; analyze data, where the votes are, etc.
Rita O'Brien inquired if there was a deadline set up to send to board members. Kaschinske confirmed there is.
Rick Kibbey stated it would not be difficult and he knows of someone who would help. He will reach out to obtain a
timeline.
Artificial Flowers in Cemetery
Brett Kaschinske stated we have a rule right now that we only allow artificial flowers in the cemeteries from November
through April, the time when you are not able to grow real flowers. This policy is similar to other cemeteries; some have
rules if artificial flowers are not in the way of maintenance they can be there. We have simply said no artificial flowers
May through October. We had a complaint about this rule from an individual who says this needs to be changed.
Kaschinske stated one of the issues he has is beauty is in the eye of beholder and what some individuals do with
gravesites in terms of balloons, flowers, alcohol bottles is different then what others may think is appropriate. It would
be difficult to allow some artificial flowers and not others.
Veronica Gracia-Wing inquired if this has occurred before or is this first and only time we have heard of this. Kaschinske
stated we always hear it when we do the sweep and pick up all the flowers in the spring, but it is usually minimal the
number of contacts we hear from. When you consider we have over 50,000 people buried and we receive one or two
complaints.
Rick Kibbey inquired if it is the same person. Kaschinske stated no.
Adam Hussain stated he would not consider changing a policy for one or two people a year.
Veronica Gracia-Wing agreed.
OLD BUSINESS
Moores Park Pool
Brett Kaschinske stated a list was circulated some time ago on repairs needed at Moores Park pool. From the list
included in the packet the filters were replaced. There were issues this year with the concrete deck, but those repairs
have been made and they were minor costs.
Plumbing:
Sand Filters $125,000 (repaired)
Supply and Return Pipe Replacement $185,000
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Re-route Water Discharge $ 85,000
Mechanical:
Exhaust Fans $ 14,000
Concrete Railing—Pool Perimeter $ 55,000
ADA Accessible Ramp/Railings $ 47,000
When these figures were put together the total to make the facility in compliance with current codes and requirements
was$768,700.
Rick Kibbey inquired about the galvanized steel pipe and pvc cannot be used. Kaschinske stated the pipe is curved
around the pool and straight pipe could not be used due to the historic designation.
Rick Kibbery clarified straight pipe could be used but the pool would lose the historical designation. Kaschinske stated
that is correct.
Rita O'Brien inquired what the benefit of having a historic designation is. Kaschinske stated the pool was established by
Wesley Bintz, who was a City of Lansing employee, and established Bintz Pools. There is a plaque on the outside of the
pool that it is a historic designation, but it is not a Michigan Historical site.
Adam Hussain says this may matter to some. Are there financial benefits for it being a historic designation? Kaschinske
stated no.
Brett Kaschinske reviewed the rest of the repairs and the costs involved.
Paul Johns stated in 2010 when the park millage was voted on, Murdock Jemerson was Director and there was a line
item from CIP money for repairs to the pool. The money was moved; however the neighborhood does not know where
the money went. The neighborhood wants to make sure the pool is paid for with tax money. The neighborhood does
not want the pool closed and they do not want to pay an entrance fee. Crego Park was dormant, but now it has been
opened and will need money put into it which does not make sense since there are other things in the city that exist and
need repair.
Brett Kaschinske stated anytime the department goes before Council with a list of where millage money is going to be
spent and the money is earmarked for a project if the money needs to be moved it has to go before council for approval.
Paul Johns stated the neighborhood wants to do what is needed to finance the pool. There collectively needs to be a
step taken to keep this pool open and the neighborhood does not want to hear anything more about the pool closing.
Brett Kaschinske stated one of things we need to address is what is the target market, which we know are the kids.
When we are talking about what would excite kids and keep them coming back; would the youth value a historic pool
and would we be better off looking at another water feature. If we close the pool, do we look at a splash pad? This will
need to be discussed.
Amy Valleau, Vice President of Moores Park Neighborhood Association, and what can the neighborhood do to be
partners to help this happen. Kids do recognize the historic value, they think it is a cool building and they may have had
grandparents swim there. As a group the neighborhood is willing to work with the city. There has to be grant funds
available.
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Rick Kibbey stated he has confidence in Marty Riel, and there have been projects in the past with donated labor. He
would like to see a plan and an assessment of how this could be done. This project could be done similar to the Gier
gym which was spread out over three years.
Brett Kaschinske stated he could get an updated list from Marty and create a PowerPoint presentation to send around
for a better understanding.
Veronica Gracia-Wing wants to hear from Moores Park Neighborhood a strategic plan, list of individuals with their
experience and expertise, where are they coming from, and what they have done successfully before. With this sense of
urgency it might be good to take another look at this plan if it has already been done.
Adam Hussain would like to hear this, but also is there a commitment from administration. He voiced his frustration
before when the park board attended the neighborhood meeting and had grand ideas and the next month discussion
was to close the pool. If we are going to go forth with the neighborhood he wants to know there is a commitment from
the administration.
Brett Kaschinske stated if the city is going to spend this much money,the pool would have some new things but it still
would be a 90 year old pool. Would the money be better spent in other areas?
Adam Hussain stated we are dangerously close to closing the pool and it is time for the tough questions. What is the
marketing difference between Moores and Hunter Pools.
Brett Kaschinske stated they pools are open the same hours, the pools are marketed together. We took the pool
inflatable obstacle course to Moores on Wednesdays to put a fun factor at the pool, but attendance did not increase.
The weather is always a factor.
Rick Kibbey stated the board is interested in seeing a plan from the neighborhood for advocacy and funding. This has
been talked about for a long time and it may be close to a decision. There have been minor steps taken to keep the pool
open, but we have not seen measures to make this work.
Paul Jones would like a time frame the neighborhood has to work with. Rick Kibbey replied the neighborhood has to do
the work and they will decide on the time needed.
Brett Kaschinske stated as of today the pool functional, however it may not be tomorrow. We never know when we
turn the system back on what will happen. The budget is coming up soon, at this time it is not a budget cut.
Paul Johns inquired who would be working with the neighborhood organization. Kaschinske stated it would be him,
however he cannot attend meetings the second Wednesday of the month due to the Park Board. He could send
representation.
Brett Kaschinske stated he wants to see this stay on the Park Board agenda each month and Moores neighborhood
should have a representative at each Park Board meeting.
Veronica Gracia-Wing wants to see documentation of the importance of the pool or a splash pad is to the neighborhood
and kids.
Rita O'Brien would like to see all options the neighborhood is open to.
Brett Kaschinske stated we start looking at the budget first thing in the New Year; it is submitted in March and approved
in May by Council.
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Amy Valleau will contact Brett Kaschinske to obtain the materials and information he has.
UPDATES
Snap-Ed— Received a $63,000 grant; WIC marketing
Personnel Update— Interviewed part-time programmer and part-time clerk positions
Riverfront Park—There was damage from Common Ground; we have repaired grass which is not growing well due to
the weather so areas have been fenced off and we are working with future rentals to advise what cannot be used.
Risdale Park—The slide was burned leaving a large hole that a small child could slip through; looking at replacement or
parts or new features.
Meeting adjourned at 9:15 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted: Kellie Brown, Park Board Secretary
Approved December 10, 2014
PARK BOARD MEETING
Foster Community Center
November 12, 2014
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rick Kibbey, Rita O'Brien, Veronica Gracia-Wing, Gib King
MEMBERS ABSENT: Paul Holland, Adam Hussain
OTHERS PRESENT: Brett Kaschinske, Parks and Recreation Director; Kellie Brown, Board Secretary;Jennifer Olson,
John Krohn, Mark Ledebuhr, Fenner Nature Center; Natalie Molnar, Ellen Gallavan, Moores Park
Neighborhood Association;Jeff Potter, Benn Rollenhagen, Cyclecross Social Bike-Groyp; Dwight
Washington
CALLED TO ORDER: 7:00 p.m.
ADDITIONS/DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA E !
Brett Kaschinske added Personnel to updates. Mark Ledebuhr asked to add a Fenner Stewardship updrte. -- C)
T'STATEMENTS OF CITIZENS ry
Mark Ledebuhr provided an update on stewardship at Fenner. In late August they had a land planning meeting to
discuss what people wanted to do and see with Fenner in the next five years. Trails are a high priority with expansions
and connections to the River Trail. Fenner is doing a 20 acre prairie restoration project; 10 acres were planted this year.
Trails have been trimmed to 7 feet and have been re-established back to their original width.
A year ago in September they established stewardship team leaders; this group has 12 leaders who are volunteers. They
have received safety training and been certified to use chainsaws, herbicides and other training. They will continue to
be trained with first aid and other trainings so they have semi-pro leaders to work with volunteers.
Fenner has a lot of deer and they are doing their best to ensure their habitats can support the wildlife.They would like
to have support from the DNR for game management.
Brett Kaschinske stated in talking with Meridian Township their deer control program is very labor intensive and it has
not reduced the population, actually deer/car accidents have increased.
Mark Ledebuhr stated their reasons are for safety and ecological reasons to control the deer population.
Gib King inquired if it would help for citizens to send letters to the City or to the DNR.
Brett Kaschinske stated he spoke with the Ingham County Parks Director since this is a county wide issue. Meridian
Township explored the idea of having their police take down the deer; LPD Chief is not interested in this method.
Mark Ledebuhr stated the Maple Shed will be screened in and ready for rentals. They have also created a plan for
another pavilion.
Dwight Washington stated he read there is a Blue Ways committee in the tri-county area and he would like to know
more. Also would like an update on the Red Cedar project and the Park Board's initiative in the plan.
Brett Kaschinske stated the Blue Ways committee has not been formed but we are looking to form that with Parks and
Recreation Director's along the Red Cedar and Grand Rivers. This would include Delta Township, Portland, Lansing,
Williamston and the townships along the rivers.
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BOARD MEETING MINUTES
September 10, 2014 and October 8, 2014 Park Board minutes were tabled to December due to lack of quorum.
NEW BUSINESS
Ranney Park
Ben Rollenhagen stated he is an instructor at Central Michigan University. He has promoted two of the largest road
cycling events in the State, one in Frankenmuth and one in Mt. Pleasant. Jeff Potter stated he is involved in a wide range
of outdoor activities in the area. Mainly he organizes and hosts a social bike riding around Lansing during the summer.
He is involved with the local sport biking and cycle cross racing in parks around the state. Lansing hosted a race in the
past and he is interested in doing one in Lansing again.
Brett Kaschinske asked Ben and Jeff to go through their proposal for Ranney Park.
Rollenhagen stated Waverly was used in the past for cycle cross. Cycle cross is a type of bike designed to go off road; it
is designed similar to a road bike with thin tires, but with knobs and traction and is very light. Cycle cross is a cross
between running and riding, so courses are usually 1 to 2 mile with laps between 5 and 10 minutes. Races are designed
for riders to get on and off the bike throughout the race with obstacles installed to provide different challenges along
the course. Popularity is growing in Michigan with several races being held each year throughout the state.
Rollenhagen stated they are looking for a park to use since Waverly is no longer available. They are inquiring if Ranney
Park could be used and would a proposal need to be presented and what is the process to formalize their request.
At the current time he has been riding around Ranney. Ranney has not used it in any formal capacity, there are no
sanctioned events planned and nothing has been organized to require waivers. They would like to establish a course at
Ranney Park for formal events, which are sanctioned events by a national body, USA Cycling. Rollenhagen does not
believe there is time to promote a race for this upcoming year. He would like to know to what is the process, what is the
formal process for future use and what can they do and not do in the meantime informally throughout the rest of the
season. The season goes into February.
Rollenhagen stated nothing permanent would be installed. Paint would be used; also stakes with caution tape could be
used. Flags could be removed. If mowing were under their control, it would be nice to just mow in a course. Regulation
requires the track be 10 feet or 3 meters wide.
Kaschinske inquired what type of wear and tear would be expected on the grass. Rollenhagen stated it depends on the
use and the weather. Spring usually has minimal wear; this time of year there would be more mud.
Kaschinske stated according to the map presented on the south side of the parking lot would create concerns for wear
and tear to the individuals who go to the ballfield. The northern part would not be as much of a concern.
Kaschinske inquired about the obstacles mentioned and what would they be. Rollenhagen stated for practice they
would not install any and there would not be any permanent obstacles. They would use natural obstacles in the park
and maybe downed tree logs.
Kaschinske inquired about signage at the beginning to outline the course and would the track directional signs be with
paint; the flags would create issues with mowing. Rollenhagen stated there is no sign at the beginning. Once the course
is established it is designed to be followed.
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Kaschinske confirmed everything being set up could be removed daily, nightly. Rollenhagen stated it could be if it was
required. When more people ride the course,the less creativity is needed. The open area space is the most challenging
to mark, however paint would solve the issue.
Kaschinske stated the paint is acceptable. We had issues at one time with tires and wire being left.
Gib King inquired what the plans are for the park. He noticed last year it was being hayed. Kaschinske stated there is a
natural area going to the north and there is a farmer who cuts it. The hill and south is mowed weekly.
Gib King inquired if they were looking for permission for one event per year, two per year or set up a course for people
to ride daily.
Rollenhagen stated there is no event planned'at this time. They are looking for a place to train. Ranney offers natural
terrain and parking for events.
Rick Kibbey stated there is a group to the south at the skate park who ride bikes and state they do not have a place to
ride.
Rollenhagen stated there will be short term wearing on the course, but it is rare to have so much use that it leaves any
long term wear on the course. The season would be done in February.
Rita O'Brien clarified their statement which states one way to mark the course is with paint, but they would like to mow
the course into the park. If the city is mowing the course, would this interfere with their mowing of the course.
Rollenhagen stated that is communication he would like to have.
Rollenhagen stated he heard some people who at Waverly who had access to their own ability to change the course. As
a course designer it is best to make last minute changes. In a perfect world it would be them, but the second best thing
would be to talk with the mower to drive a different way each week to change the course.
Gib King recommended approaching this to use the park and not interfere with anything the Parks Department is doing.
If a course is put in and more people ride it a course will be beat in; if that does not hurt what the park plan is, great.
Kaschinske stated liability would need to be worked out if Rollenhagen was to use mowers. If it is not that we would
need to go to the mowing contractor to see if it would require additional time or effort for the contractor to mow
differently and if there would be costs involved. If there are additional costs involved, those costs would need to be
passed along.
Rick Kibbey stated the way to proceed is to talk about this further and for Rollenhagen and Potter to come back to the
Board with a presentation and proposal.
Rollenhagen inquired about other parks and would the process be the same. Kaschinske stated yes.
Willard Walker Memorial
Kaschinske stated this was up for vote, but due to a lack of quorum it will be tabled until next month unless there are
more questions.
Comcast Easement
Kaschinske stated this was up for vote, but due to a lack of quorum it will be tabled until next month. The one question
the Board had was the amount, which has not been decided yet but we are looking at about$2,000.
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Kibbey inquired how this compares with easements. Kaschinske stated it is comparable for similar easements.
Westside Stump Removal
Tabled until December meeting
OLD BUSINESS
Moores Park Pool
Natalie Molnar introduced herself and stated she is the President of the Moores Park Neighborhood Organization. She
would like to stress the importance of the pool to the neighborhood. The Park Board meets the same time and evening
as the Moores Park meeting so she will not always be able to attend, but she will have someone attend more regularly.
Molnar stated she knows there are issues with the pool and moving forward the organization will do whatever they can
to work with the Board, Parks Department and the City. It is not just the neighborhood that uses the facilities at the
park. With the River Trail there are always people fishing at the dam, cyclists parking to get on the River Trail and using
the pool. We want to be realistic about the needs of the park and pool and what will serve the community best. They
want to see the pool continue to operate. The neighborhood organization is looking into grants and fund raising
opportunities.
She would like to ask for help in doing an assessment of the park and how it is used as a whole and how people are
currently using the park. She is not sure if there is a master plan for the park. There are erosion issues and trash issues
at the park. The neighborhood would like to ask for assistance with creating a master plan to address the issues of the
park.
The canoe and kayak business from the downtown area are using Moores and it would be nice if there were benefits to
them doing business at Moores.
There are safety issues regarding the River Trail and she would like to see improvements to address the safety concerns
along the trail to REO Town.
Molnar said the neighborhood will do what they can to promote the pool and looking at grants and she asks the city to
help in the ways she mentioned and to keep the neighborhood informed.
Rick Kibbey stated first an assessment needs to be done. The department's Landscape Architect Planner can be assigned
to work with the neighborhood to work on an assessment and bring a presentation back to the Board to address the
plethora of issues that exist in the park. We have had good luck with planning as an organizing process and this is how
to being the process.
Kaschinske stated we talked about an updated assessment and PowerPoint presentation of the problems that exist at
the pool and the costs. Kaschinske stated he is still working with the building maintenance department on getting the
information. Spoke with Corey Anderson from Vortec about a splash pad, location and the issues involved with splash
pads. There are major issues to address such as where are the nearest electricity and water sources. One thing
discussed is about not having water circulate, but going directly into the drain system. Kaschinske also mentioned about
going online and looking at Bintz pools and other communities that have dealt with some of these same issues.
Kaschinske asked for the safety issues that were mentioned earlier in the meeting regarding the River Trail. Molnar said
there was an attack on the River Trail last year about this time of year. It occurred on the park side of the bridge, not
GM's side. Heading to REO Town there is a large fence on the side of GM and BWL and the river on the side so if
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someone is following you there is nowhere to-go. Once you cross over the bridge, before you reach St. Vincent's in REO
Town, it would be nice to have lighting and an emergency signal.
Ellen Gallavan, Secretary Moores Park Neighborhood Organization, stated there is a small parking lot by the pavilion that
floods every year.
Park Millage
Rick Kibbey stated one of the major elements of our budget and a very major element of our flexibility to do new
programming is the Board's function on the millage. It has to be renewed every 5 years and we need to get specific
when it is coming up and get ready for it. Historically the burden for this has been the Park Board and user groups. This
town is full of people who run elections and we have good advice on elections.The election is August 2015, which is 9
months away so there are a lot of neighborhood groups to speak to and records to pull together.
UPDATES
MRPA Design
Kaschinske provided the presentation binder and stated Crego has been nominated for the MRPA Design award.
Miller Road—Grand Woods Park— Red Cedar—Waverly
Kaschinske stated Miller Road passed by 71%to sell; Grand Woods passed by 55%to sell. Kaschinske stated he is
working with Bob Johnson, Planning and Neighborhood Development, on both of these as far as the next steps. Grand
Woods deadline is February 2015 for an appraisal from Delta Township on the park. Once the appraisal is done we can
discuss sales price.
Kaschinske reviewed the announcement on Red Cedar and the 20 acres of land in the floodway. This will need to be
addressed.
Waverly - has an offer for almost$6 million dollars
County Millage
This millage passed and discussion will continue on responsibilities and now the money will be handled.
Personnel
Kaschinske stated we have hired a new part-time programmer. We are looking for a part-time aquatic programmers and
full time sports coordinator; waiting for decision on 2 part-time clerks.
Meeting adjourned at 9 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted: Kellie Brown, Park Board Secretary
Approved December 10, 2014
PARK BOARD MEETING
Foster Community Center
December 10,2014
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rick Kibbey, Paul Holland,Adam Hussain, Rita O'Brien,Veronica Gracia-Wing
MEMBERS ABSENT: Gib King(excused)
OTHERS PRESENT: Brett Kaschinske, Parks and Recreation Director; Kellie Brown, Board Secretary; Lucas Anthony,
Rache Kardahji, Mike Ware,Tecumseh River Neighborhood Organization;Jessica Denton, Louie
Rodriguez, Floor Hockey coaches.
CALLED TO ORDER: 7:00 p.m.
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BOARD MEETING MINUTES
Paul Holland moved to approve the minutes as submitted for September 10, 2014, October 8, 2014 and November 12,
2014; seconded by Veronica Gracia-Wing. 5 yeas; 0 nays
Motion carried
NEW BUSINESS
Tecumseh River Neighborhood
Lucas Anthony, President of Tecumseh River Neighborhood Organization, stated the group formed in January 2014. The
organizations boundaries are Tecumseh Road north to Delta River Drive, west to Waverly Road and east to North Grand
River which is about 1,000 households.
They understand the Parks Department is working on the next 5-year plan and they wanted to share information from
their brainstorming meeting about what the neighborhood would like to see in the park and what they can partner with
the City on. Mr. Anthony provided a list of priorities. Their top priority would be a connection to the River Trail from
Tecumseh Park. They would like more trash receptacles in the park, and picnic tables. A portion of the park is natural
area and it is beautiful. There is a trail mowed along the river, and the group would like to see more paths mowed in the
natural area in the summer.
They want to partner with the City and apply for grants.
Rick Kibbey stated this group has put forward a nice proposition on how a neighborhood can take on the planning of its
park. Tecumseh is an excellent example of actual naturalization in a planned fashion and it can be improved. There is
also a wetland portion of the park.
Lucas Anthony stated they have put on special events which have had great turnouts.
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Brett Kaschinske stated he met with the group and many of the items on their list could be done in the spring. He
already has dog waste signs ready for installation.
Brett Kaschinske stated part of the Board's goals for the 5-year plan is regarding waterways and trail ways. The current
River Trail ends close to this park already. There is potential to work with the BWL, however that would be on the other
side but there are options that could be Michigan Trust Fund eligible.
Brett Kaschinske stated we were going to remove the baseball backstop, but it is being used for the screen for the
movies in the park.
Anthony Lucas stated the addition of more group sport activities would be awesome such as soccer nets or horseshoe
pits.
Mike Ware stated they are trying to get the neighborhood engaged through Facebook.
Anthony Lucas said the organization began because of the Adopt-a- River clean-up and instead of going to the river with
the other groups on that day they decided to organize a Tecumseh Park clean up, so for two years on the Adopt-a-River
clean-up day they work in the park. Next year they are planning a snowball fight day with targets to throw at, another
movie in the park and Talk Like a Pirate in the park and other events.
Brett Kaschinske stated he has concerns about the blind curve and the vegetation around the pond. Lucas stated last
summer neighbors were mowing around the pond, but if it could be mowed it would be great but the neighbors will
continue to mow if necessary. Kaschinske would like to meet at the pond to discuss mowing.
Anthony Lucas stated he noticed the construction crew is no longer working on removing the tennis court and he
assumes it is for the season and they will be back in the spring.
Brett Kaschinske stated they have to restore the site, which means they have to grade it with top soil and fill in ruts. If
the ground is too soft,there would be more repair maintenance needed. They have until spring to complete the project.
Rick Kibbey stated he would like to discuss with Kaschinske to consider this a semi-formal plan. This has been found to
be a good format to integrate studies that need to be done.
Floor Hockey
Brett Kaschinske provided the letter regarding age groups that was sent to the floor hockey coaches/managers who had
contacted the department and it was also available at the first floor hockey tournament this past weekend.
Jessica Denton, coach, showed one of the trophies they won which had the nameplate on the front removed and
replaced with masking tape due to the wrong language regarding ages. She is under the impression the plates are going
to be replaced. Kaschinske clarified the plates are being replaced at the cost of the City.
Louie Rodriguez inquired about last year's trophies they did not receive due to the ice storm. The championship games
were not made up and he had spoken with Troy about receiving the trophies; however the trophies were not presented
based on the results of the games up to the cancellation point.
Jessica Denton read the letter she wrote about the concerns with the floor hockey program,the changes to age groups
and other changes to the program. She does not believe the changes were conveyed in a timely manner and team
rosters were denied due to ages.
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Jessica Denton stated she had concerns with the last paragraph of Mr. Kaschinske's letter and players not being able to
play up in age groups and finding other agencies to play with.
Louie Rodriguez stated there are no other avenues for floor hockey and Lansing Parks and Recreation is no longer
allowing teams who are not in the Lansing league to play in the tournaments.
Rick Kibbey stated he would like a meeting with floor hockey representatives and any other board members interested
in attending to discuss this matter further.
Brett Kaschinske stated there are issues with floor hockey tournaments held in Lansing School District venues and the
behavior of parents. Another issue is if teams are in the City league they are under the City insurance, however if teams
are not in the City league do they carry their own insurance and how it that monitored. Also, playing in our league
requires playing under City rules.
Adam Hussain stated this information was not included in the meeting packet and it is a lot of information. There needs
to be a meeting, have questions and be prepared to answer the questions.
A meeting will be scheduled as soon as possible with board members and hockey representatives to further discuss this
matter.
Willard Walker Memorial
Rick Kibbey stated this was on the agenda last month and there were questions.
Brett Kaschinske stated the guidelines for naming parks was sent out and the one issue in the guidelines pertaining to
this request is about naming parks after a living individual.
Veronica Gracia-Wing inquired if we have named any parks in the past after living individuals.
Brett Kaschinske stated no, we have placed plaques in parks dedicating a building, facility, etc. to living individuals.
Veronica Gracia-Wing inquired what issues there could be if naming a park after a living person.
Brett Kaschinske stated some time ago there was a request to name a pavilion after a living person who turned out to
have an unfavorable background.
Paul Holland asked if the Board is being asked to waive the guideline rule.
Brett Kaschinske stated the Board is being asked to approve renaming St.Joe Park after Willard Walker. The original
request came through the Council office.
Rita O'Brien inquired about the Southside Center being named after Alfreda Schmidt. Kaschinske clarified that is a
Lansing School District building and the renaming did not require going through this process.
Paul Holland inquired if Council needs to rescind the rule? Holland stated he does not like to go around the rule, if the
rule needs to be reconsidered the Board needs to recommend to Council to reconsider the rule.
Veronica Gracia-Wing agreed and does not feel it is the Board's job to go around the rule and the Board needs to be
advised by Council regarding the rule.
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Rick Kibbey stated the Memorial Review Board was created to put the responsibility elsewhere when the request to re-
name Grand Avenue after Caesar Chavez came about. The Memorial Board struggles to remain together;the Park Board
has been naming park items for decades and has an internal process. The Park Board has taken the position to name
our facilities. Asking Council to provide guidance on this would be a big lift because it is a lot of trouble for very little
reward.
Paul Holland inquired if this is an ordinance or a policy.
Brett Kaschinske stated these are our Park Board guidelines, and rule 3 stated applicants are not required to meet all
criteria.
Rick Kibbey stated the other issue is the whole question of naming rights and selling naming rights.
Paul Holland proposed creating a committee to clarify and create new guidelines.
Brett Kaschinske stated there were signatures in support.
Adam Hussain stated there are only about 20 signatures and he is not sure if they all reside in the neighborhood of St.
Joe Park.
Brett Kaschinske stated he does not know if this has come before the Westside Neighborhood. He reviewed the
signatures and addresses that would be in the neighborhood.
Paul Holland inquired if the Park Board would consider consulting with the neighborhood board.
Brett Kaschinske stated under Park Board guidelines it reads "A resolution of a recognized Neighborhood Association,
passed by a simple majority of the official membership of the Association."
Paul Holland stated he would be willing to take this to the neighborhood meeting to consider it and make a motion.
Brett Kaschinske stated this has been on the Park Board agenda for a while and the Park Board has had difficulty getting
a quorum to act on this.
Adam Hussain stated without the Westside Neighborhood Association weighing in and giving support he is not sure he is
supportive of pushing this request up the ladder. Everyone on the Park Board is vested in parks and when we are
discussing changing a name of a park he wants to see more neighborhood support.
Paul Holland agreed with Hussain. St.Joe is a big park and it is a large active neighborhood group that should have
input.
Rita O'Brien inquired if the neighborhood agrees how long of a process it would be from that point.
Paul Holland stated the Westside Neighborhood is meeting next week and the next meeting will be in January.
Brett Kaschinske stated the length of time is unknown. Once Westside acts, it would come back to the Park Board for
vote, it would then go to the Memorial Review Board and then to Council.
Veronica Gracia-Wing asked if an electronic vote could be done on issues that have already been brought before the
Board and discussed. Yes, an electronic vote could be done.
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Veronica Gracia-Wing inquired about the projected cost of the proposed memorial. Who is responsible for the cost of
signs and collateral associated with it?
Brett Kaschinske clarified this would include maps, websites, any document containing the word St.Joe Park.
Paul Holland wants Ms. Key informed about the realistic cost of the sign and name change. Kaschinske stated the sign
would be closer to$500.
Rick Kibbey would like to see Westside Neighborhood Association vote on this and come back to the Park Board.
However, the Park Board could act of placing a plaque at the park to recognize Willard Walker.
Veronica Gracia-Wing clarified the proposal was to put up a plaque and stop the memorial process.
Rick Kibbey stated yes.
Paul Holland and Adam Hussain both stated they would like Westside Neighborhood to have input and would like to see
the application request addressed as presented to rename the park and not just put up a plaque.
Paul Holland wants to act on the application with input from Westside Neighborhood Association and forward to
Council.
Veronica Gracia-Wing agreed.
Brett Kaschinske clarified the Board wants to move this request to the Westside Neighborhood Association, bring their
action back to the Park Board, and create a sub-committee to review and clarify the guidelines.
Paul Holland agreed; seconded by Veronica Gracia-Wing. 5 yeas; 0 nays.
Motion carried
Comcast Easement
Brett Kaschinske reviewed the answers to the questions the Board asked in September.
Paul Holland moved to approve the easement. Adam Hussain seconded. 5 yeas;0 nays
Motion carried
RanneV Park
Brett Kaschinske referred back to the November meeting minutes and the presentation for a cycle cross course at
Ranney Park. The Board asked for a proposal; Kaschinske provided an e-mail with the information the group submitted.
Kaschinske stated it was his understanding they were to come back to the Board with a presentation. We could draw up
an agreement requiring them to fix any ruts they create in the park, clarifying they would not mow any part of the park,
and they could mark out the path with temporary markings only such as approved athletic field paint. He would not
approve any crossing over of parking lots, he is agreeable with the loop around the northern part of the park.
Veronica Gracia-Wing stated the minutes showed they were to come back to the Park Board with a proposal and
presentation and the e-mail did not meet that request.
Paul Holland inquired if we have a policy for them to have a security bond for damage. Brett Kaschinske stated we
usually have a security deposit.
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Brett Kaschinske stated he has concerns they did not come back to the Board. Obstacles could only be put up on a daily
basis, nothing left in the park. He is comfortable with setting up an agreement,we have worked with this group in the
past at Waverly and We have had success with them.
Rick Kibbey asked if Kaschinske was comfortable with writing an agreement. Kaschinske stated yes.
Rick Kibbey moved to allow Brett to prepare a facilities agreement. Rita O'Brien seconded. 5 yeas; 0 nays
Motion carried
Westside Stump Removal
Paul Holland stated he met with Brett last week about the next plans. Westside Neighborhood Association planted 150
trees and now there are stumps to remove. The Westside Neighborhood Association could organize a group of
volunteers, raise funds and the City could provide supplies for after the stumps are removed. Neighborhood Association
would talk with homeowners to see who would buy in,the neighborhood would hire a vendor to remove the stumps
and the volunteers would do the labor to restore the area. A stump inventory would be done in March and plan to have
the project done by summer. Removing the stumps at one time would allow for better pricing then individuals having
stumps removed one at a time.
Moores Park
Brett Kaschinske stated the estimate on the splash pad was$275,000 and reviewed the specifications.
UPDATES
Ferris Park—Soccer Field
Brett Kaschinske introduced Scott Dane from CASL(Capital Area Soccer League). They will be at the February meeting to
do a presentation. Kaschinske wanted to bring it to the Board as preliminary information. This would be a smaller turf
soccer field with boards around it to contain the ball. There will be lights, either solar or electric. The Downtown
Neighborhood Association has been approached regarding the project. LEAP is also involved with the project.
City Art Policy
Brett Kaschinske stated he and Rita met with the Lansing Art Gallery. Kaschinske spoke with Public Service and the two
departments need to work together for guidelines.
Veronica Gracia-Wing inquired what is being done in the interim. Kaschinske stated in the interim we have a policy
Council has passed which refers it back to Park Board.
Meeting adjourned
Respectfully Submitted: Kellie Brown, Park Board Secretary
Approved February 11, 2015
PARK BOARD MEETING
Foster Community Center
January 14,2015
MEMBERS PRESENT: Rick Kibbey, Gib King
MEMBERS ABSENT: Paul Holland, Adam Hussain, Rita O'Brien,Veronica Gracia-Wing,
OTHERS PRESENT: Brett Kaschinske, Parks and Recreation Director; Kellie Brown, Board Secretary;Joe Wright,
Public Service;Joe Stacks, MSU Student
CALLED TO ORDER: 7:10 p.m.
ADDITIONS/DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA
Kaschinske added Park Board Rule changes to New Business, Parks Millage Fact Sheet to Old Business, Grand Woods and
Forestry/Grounds annual report to updates.
STATEMENTS OF CITIZENS
None
BOARD MEETING MINUTES
Tabled until February meeting due to lack of quorum.
NEW BUSINESS
Willard Walker Memorial
Brett Kaschinske stated at the December meeting the Park Board requested this request be taken to the West Side
Neighborhood Association to receive their input on the name change of St.Joe Park. Veronica Gracia-Wing, Park Board
Member and Westside Neighborhood Association member, reported by e-mail the following: "After reviewing the
proposed name change and a majority vote,the WNA board offers feedback to the Parks board to the extent that it
defers to the discretion and opinion of the Parks board on the renaming of St.Joseph Park to Willard Walker Park.The
board also wishes to.express its appreciation to the Parks board for including the neighborhood in the renaming
conversation."
Action on this agenda item will be tabled until February meeting due to lack of quorum.
Trails Stakeholders Meeting
Brett Kaschinske stated Ingham County has called this meeting due to the county wide millage passing for the River Trail.
Kaschinske would like to see Park Board members at the meeting on Monday,January 26 at 6 p.m. at Human Services
Building#3, 5303 S. Cedar Street. Meridian Township, East Lansing, Lansing Township and Lansing were the majority of
passing votes.
Kaschinske stated Lansing has submitted $1.2 million dollars' worth of needs to the County Commissioners for the River
Trail.
Rick Kibbey confirmed it is important for Park Board members to attend this first meeting.
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Brett Kaschinske stated there is a master plan in place for Ingham County trails.
Park Board Rules
Brett Kaschinske reviewed the rule changes which pertain to the number of board members and what constitutes a
quorum.
Rick Kibbey stated he has concerns about the wording"no less than five members" and "One (1) member more than
one-half of the current appointed Board Members shall constitute a quorum". He would like to see wording about
majority of attendance.
5-Year Master Plan
Brett Kaschinske introduced Joe Wright who provided a draft copy of the 2015-2020 Master Plan. Wright stated he and
Kaschinske will be meeting with the Mayor tomorrow to discuss the plan. Kaschinske stated there is currently a survey
on the Parks web site; which has also been posted to Facebook, sent to neighborhood organizations and distributed
through the department's e-newsletter.
Joe Wright stated planning for the plan in April by meeting with the Park Board and staff.Throughout the summer,
public meetings were held to receive input, as well as an on-line survey which is posted until February 2, 2015; in
addition follow-up surveys are done after major events and classes which will also be included.
The goals were set by the Park Board and modified by data received from the surveys. Major changes should not need
to be made at this time to the plan.
Brett Kaschinske stated we originally had five (5)goals and made one addition and objectives were updated from the
various meetings.
Joe Wright reviewed the time line of the plan. January 15 he and Brett will be meeting with the Mayor; survey deadline
is February 2; public comments on the draft plan will be taken through February 16. Wright stated he would like to
focus on the capital improvement project(CIP) list to accomplish more than the last plan.
Brett Kaschinske spoke with the City Clerk and they have several plans on their website for review and we will also be
placing the master plan draft on the website directing individuals to Council meetings to make comments.
Joe Wright stated he needs Park Board approval and Council resolution before the end of February. The plan has to be
into the DNR by March 1, 2015 if the City wants to apply for grant money by April 1, 2015. If the City does not want to
apply for grant money this year,the plan has to be to the DNR by April 1, 2015.
Rick Kibbey discussed the CIP list and he does not believe the basketball complex has a developed consensus on the
project. It is a controversial project and there would be opposition from the Board.
Brett Kaschinske stated it is better to put it in the plan and maybe not get votes than to not put it in the plan and not
have it listed out for the DNR.
The February meeting will be used to discuss and approve the plan. February agenda items were discussed and what
will need to be moved to March to accommodate discussion on the master plan.
Park Millage Fact Sheet
Kaschinske provided a fact sheet on the 2015 Park Millage.
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UPDATES
Murdock Jemerson—MRPA Fellowship Award
Murdock is the former Director and this is the highest award presented by the MRPA. He will be presented with the
award at the annual conference in Lansing on February 12.
MRPA Conference
Kaschinske stated the annual conference will be held in Lansing, February 10 through February 13.
Floor Hockey
Kaschinske stated the league is going well. Rick Kibbey inquired about the changes and what has been done. Kaschinske
stated after the last Park Board meeting a special meeting was held with floor hockey coaches. Kaschinske asked Board
members for comments and opinions and did not receive any feedback. Gib King stated he thought there was going to
be a proposal brought back to the Board to vote on. Kaschinske stated the floor hockey coaches understand the changes
with the age divisions, coaches have worked together to move kids to other teams to play in appropriate age divisions
and nothing further will be done at this time.
Rotary Grant
Friends of Lansing River Trail applied for the 1001h anniversary grant from the Rotary Club to replicate the Maguire Park
arch throughout the River Trail with 16 similar arches. They made it to the final eight (8), but not to the final two (2).
They may approach the Granger Company regarding this project.
Grand Woods
Kaschinske stated the appraisal has been done and came back at$765,000. The contract with Delta Township was
extended from 2014 to 2016 with the current terms. The property is for sale and the City is in negotiations with Delta
Township.
Forestry/Grounds Annual Report
Kaschinske provide a copy of the Forestry/Grounds annual report to Rick Kibbey for review.
INFORMATION
The 2015 meeting schedule was provided to Board members.
Respectfully Submitted: Kellie Brown, Park Board Secretary
Approved February 11, 2015