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From: Bennett,Jim
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 9:12 AM
To: Scott, Tracy
Subject: RE: Schedule
You should have minutes for 3/11/14, 7/9/14, and 8/12/14.The 10/14/14 Minutes have not yet been approved since we
haven't met since then, so you may not have a copy of those.
Jim Bennett, C.B.O.
Building Official
Building Safety Office Manager
Building Safety Office
City of Lansing
316 N. Capitol Ave., Suite C-1
Lansing, MI 48933-1238
(517)483-4155
(517)377-0169 Fax
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From: Scott, Tracy
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 8:50 AM
To: Bennett, Jim
Subject: Schedule
Good Morning Jim,
Is it possible to get a copy of the 2014 meeting schedule, for the Building Board of Appeals?
I am comparing minutes and dates.
If so, it would be greatly appreciated.
Tracy O
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L,A`�`sf DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND
... : NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT
316 N.Capitol Avenue, Suites C-1 • Lansing MI 48933-1238
(517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169
BUILDING SAFETY OFFICE
Virg Bernero, Mayor
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING
BUILDING BOARD OF APPEALS
Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 2:00 pm
March 11 , 2014
The March 11, 2014 meeting of the City of Lansing Building Board of Appeals was called to order at 2:04
PM. by Vice Chairman James Drake. The following members were in attendance:
James Drake, Vice Chairman
Barry Wood
Chad Powers
Members Absent: Excused Absence — Don Heck, Chairman
Staff Present: Brad Drury, Fire Marshal
Jon Snyder, Plan Review Analyst
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Petitioners Present: Colin Maguire, � r�
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Stanley Samuel, -�-
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Public Present: None
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James Drake (DRAKE) asked for the approval of the November 12, 2013 meeting minutes with
corrections made from Don Heck. Barry Wood (WOOD) made a motion to approve the minutes. Motion
seconded by Chad Powers (Powers). Motion carried unanimously.
Old Business: None
New Business:
Case No.: Address: Petitioner:
BBA-001-2014 6527 South Cedar Street Wolverine Development
(These minutes of the Building Board of Appeals are not intended to be a transcript.)
DRAKE introduced the case number and address. DRAKE then asked the petitioners to introduce
themselves and state their case. Colin Maguire (MAGUIRE), Stanley Samuel and Kevin Roragon
introduced themselves.
MAGUIRE explained that they have three main arguments that would explain why requiring fire
sprinklers in the building is not necessary.
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The first being in the 2009 Michigan Building Code (MBC 2009) excludes mattresses and states that
there is a reason for this.
Secondly, the 2012 International Building Code (IBC 2012) does address mattresses and under this
code the new building would not have to be sprinkled under the square footage requirements. The
requirements for a mercantile occupancy for the display and sale of upholstered furniture or mattresses
exceeding 5,000 square feet are required to be sprinkled under IBC 2012.
MAGUIRE also stated that considering the 2009 International Building Code (IBC 2009) in conjunction
with the 2012 International Fire Code (IFC 2012), there is a case that shows the same consideration for
the size of the building and that there is no intention for a fire suppression system to be installed in a
store this small.
MAGUIRE references an exhibit that was given out detailing the Consumer Product Safety Commission
(CPSC) approving a standard for mattresses flammability. The federal standard went into effect July 1,
2007.
MAGUIRE states that the MBC 2009 excluded mattresses for the reason that fire safety precautions
were given to mattresses and not upholstered furniture.
MAGUIRE directed the Boards attention to a handout that poses a code question to John England with
England Enterprises Incorporated. The question asks which of the following will not be required to be
sprinkled? The answer shown states the mattress store that is 10,000 square feet does not need to be
sprinkled. The answer cites that the CPSC does not see mattresses as upholstered furniture.
MAGUIRE cites a state building code interpretation of an amended code section from Yakima,
Washington. The hand out given was a draft that showed that if a mercantile occupancy that sold
upholstered furniture had a display area that exceeds 5,000 square feet then a fire suppression system
will be needed. Also, a storage occupancy that is used for the storage of upholstered furniture that
exceeds 2,500 square feet, a fire suppression system will be needed. This conclusion was based on the
amended IBC 2009 and IFC 2009.
MAGUIRE stated that the new building is under the square footage required to trigger the building being
sprinkled under the IBC 2012 and IFC 2012.
MAGUIRE requested reconsideration from the Building Board of Appeals on the city's decision to require
the building to be sprinkled under the MBC 2009. MAGUIRE stated the intent of the MBC 2009 was not
to have a fire suppression system installed in a mattress store this small.
Fire Marshal Brad Drury (DRURY) asked MAGUIRE on what grounds are mattresses excluded from the
code.
MAGUIRE says the MBC 2009 does not say "mattresses" because of the 2006 CPSC ruling.
MAGUIRE references the Sleep Doctor document in Kentwood Michigan that came to the same
conclusion with the Fire Chief that they are asking for.
DRURY states that MAGUIRE is stating the intent of the code and asks MAGUIRE that without being a
code official how would he know the intent.
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MAGUIRE references the Sofa Mart fire in South Carolina that killed 9 fire fighters. MAGUIRE states the
store had display space of 42,000 square feet and 17,000 in storage space. MAGUIRE states the IBC
2012 took this into consideration and this is why smaller buildings are not required to be sprinkled under
the IBC 2012.
DRURY references three separate fires that he was involved with that were mattress stores that were
total losses.
DRURY states that typical storage areas for mattresses are covered with high density plastic. It is this
packaging that adds to the fuel load and over takes the ability of the fire retardant mattresses to suppress
a fire. It is this high spread level that is the reason that has killed fire fighters all over the country for
years and years.
DRURY references a local fire of Discount Dave's on South Washington. The building of over 6,000
square feet was a total loss. The storage portion of the building that held the mattresses where the fire
was started was not even 3,000 square feet. The owner confirmed the mattresses were fire retardant
and flame resistant to the new standard.
MAGUIRE references a set of given drawings of the new building and shows the 1 hour rated walls
separating the building into 2 tenants and separating the storage portion in the proposed mattress store.
MAGUIRE states this would hopefully prevent a total loss if a fire happened.
Plan Review Analyst Jon Snyder (SNYDER) notes for the Board that the CPSC federal standard is in
reference to R3 occupancies being specifically 1 and 2 family dwellings. The standard references
smokers in their residence in bed not mattresses in a mercantile occupancy and possibly covered with
plastic.
DRURY states that there are municipalities that are not adopting the IBC 2012 due to discrepancies.
DRURY reiterates that the three fires that he has been a fire fighter on that involved mattresses were
total losses just at the time the fire department arrives on scene. The fire at Washington Avenue and
West Barnes Avenue is 3 blocks away from a fire station and by the time of arrival the fire was through
the roof. The square footage was approximately 2,500 to 3,000 square feet. This location had furniture
and mattresses.
DRURY expresses the fuel load will overtake the fire retardant mattresses.
Board Member Barry Wood (WOOD) asks when the 2012 Michigan Building Code (MBC 2012) will come
out.
SNYDER answers it has been reported by the State possibly this summer.
WOOD states and we don't know what it says regarding this issue?
SNYDER not until Michigan adopts it.
DRURY stated that Michigan always puts amendments in it. This very issue will be lobbied very hard by
the Fire Service and Michigan Fire Inspector Society to not allow this issue into the (MBC 2012).
WOOD questioned if that was speculation.
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DRURY stated that this is very good speculation being that he is a member of the association.
MAGUIRE stated the current adopted code MBC 2009 does not mention mattresses and asks for the
reversal of the decision of the city based on this exclusion.
DRURY stated that any code ever written cannot be written for every single piece of furniture or scenario.
This why the code requires interpretation by the Building Code Official (Jim Bennett) and the Fire Code
Official. In this case Jim Bennett, Jon Snyder and I are under the same opinion.
SNYDER the code is subject to interpretation. I think the MBC 2009 does not exclude mattresses, in fact
I feel the MBC 2012 demonstrates the inclusion. Because the MBC 2012 code states "upholstered
furniture or mattresses". Therefore the intent of MBC 2009's was to include mattresses.
DRURY mentioned that usually where there is an "or" it means encompasses all.
SNYDER in fact when I was doing the plan review Brad was asked about mattresses being upholstered
furniture and without hesitation the answer was yes.
MAGUIRE does not agree with the city's interpretation. It was common enough knowledge to be on a
professional development question and does not include mattresses.
MAGUIRE if we are to consider the plastic around the mattresses then we might consider the quality and
age of the building. New construction with new one hour walls to be in place. As opposed to older
buildings with tinder including the structural materials themselves.
MAGUIRE we don't think this applies under the MBC 2009 and mattresses are specifically excluded. We
respectfully request the Board go with this interpretation and reverse the city's opinion.
DRURY referred to section "209.9 Matters Not Provided For" in the Fire Code: The requirements that
are essential for public safety of an existing or proposed activity, building structure, or for the safety of
occupants thereof. Which are not specifically provided for by this code shall be determined by the Fire
Code Official. The Building Code is the same way.
DRURY stated that he has looked into the testing of the mattresses. They are designed, as Jon pointed
out, designed for people to fall asleep smoking.
WOOD verified when the packaging is not on it.
DRURY exactly.
WOOD stated that, that goes with a lot of fires and storage of equipment. It is the packaging that is often
more of a problem than the product.
WOOD makes the motion for application of appeal to be denied. Based on the fact that we are not
currently under the MBC 2012 and don't know what amendments will contain.
Motion seconded by Chad Powers.
Motion carried unanimously.
Other Business: Discussion of Demolition Board.
Tabled for later date when all board members and secretary are present.
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Public Comment: None
James Drake moved to adjourn. Motion seconded by Chad Powers. Motion passed unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Jon Snyder, Plan Analyst Draft date: 03/18/2014
Approved date: 07/09/2014
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City Clerk's Office Building Safety Office Staff Representatives
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'`�51 DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND
NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT
316 N. Capitol Avenue, Suites C-1 . Lansing MI 48933-1238
(517)483-4355. FAX: (517)377-0169
BUILDING SAFETY OFFICE
Virg Bernero, Mayor
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING
BUILDING BOARD OF APPEALS
Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 2:00 pm
July 9, 2014
The July 9, 2014 meeting of the City of Lansing Building Board of Appeals was called to order at 2:04
PM. by Chairman Don Heck. The following members were in attendance:
Don Heck, Chairman
Barry Wood
Chad Powers
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Members Absent: Excused Absence — James Drake, Vice Chairman
Staff Present: James Bennett, Chief Plan Review Analyst/Building Official r+-1
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Petitioners Present: Jeff Kay, Sparrow Hospital
John West, Sparrow Hospital
John Bates, 913 Everett Dr.
Public Present: None
Don Heck asked for the approval of the March 11, 2014 meeting minutes. Barry Wood made a motion to
approve the minutes. Motion seconded by Chad Powers (Powers). Motion carried unanimously.
Old Business: None
New Business:
Case No.: Address: Petitioner:
BBA-002-2014 1215 E Michigan E.W. Sparrow Hospital
BBA-003-2014 1200 E Michigan E.W. Sparrow Hospital
BBA-004-2014 1210 W Saginaw E.W. Sparrow Hospital
At the suggestion of Chairman Heck the three cases would be considered together. Mr. Kay from
Sparrow Hospital and Mr. Bennett explained that the purpose of the appeal was to arrive at an agreed
starting point in regard to fire and life safety requirements within the three buildings owned by Sparrow.
Each of the buildings was built and has been renovated numerous times under various editions of the
Building Code. This has led to portions of the buildings having fire or smoke control ratings that are not
necessarily required to be maintained as fire and smoke zones. Granting of this appeal would allow
Sparrow to move forward with future renovations without having to incur the expense of maintaining fire
ratings and smoke containment features that are no longer required.
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Sparrow has retained the services of Koffel Associates, Fire Protection Engineers, to survey the existing
buildings and produce drawings indicating the location, extent, classification, and fire rating of building
elements to demonstrate compliance with the current Building Code.
Mr. Bennett walked the Board through the three drawing sets pointing out some deficiencies and
questions that need to be answered before the drawings are acceptable to the Building Safety Office.
After some discussion by the Board, Sparrow, and Mr. Bennett, Barry Wood made the following motion:
Move to accept the plans for BBA-002-2014 1215 East Michigan, BBA-003-2014 1200 East Michigan,
and BBA-004-2014 1210 West Saginaw as presented for the purpose of serving as a record document
showing the building life safety plans from this date forward pursuant to plan review and revisions as
completed by Sparrow Health Systems, Koffel Associates, and the City of Lansing Building Safety Office
with a final report to the Board of Appeals.
Motion was seconded by Chad Powers.
Motion passed unanimously.
Case No.: Address: Petitioner:
BBA-005-2014 913 Everett Drive John Bates
Chairman Heck introduced Mr. Bates and invited him to present his appeal. Mr. bates outlined his desire
to use a portion of the existing basement as a bedroom and another portion of the basement as "rec
room". The board questioned Mr. Bates and Mr. Bennett and discussed the matter and possible
alternatives. Chad Powers made the following motion:
Move to grant the appeal for a variance to Mr. Bates, provided the following measures are taken to
reduce the fire load in the basement.
• Install an egress window.
• Install solid core door to replace existing furnace room door.
• Install hardwired smoke detection and CO detection in the furnace room.
• Install hardwired smoke detection in bedroom and rec room.
• Install% inch drywall to entire basement ceiling and underside of stairs.
• Obtain all applicable permits and inspection from the City.
Motion seconded by Don Heck.
Yes votes: Heck and Powers.
No votes: Wood
Motion carried
Other Business: Discussion of Demolition Board.
A discussion was held between the Board and Mr. Bennett as to how the Board felt about the possibility
of assuming the duties currently exercised by the Demolition Board under City Ordinance. The Board
had no objections to performing those functions and an advantage would be the inclusion of Mr. Muylle
who currently serves on the Demolition Board as a member of the Building Board. Mr. Bennett will pass
this information along to the Code Compliance Office and the City Attorney for consideration of an
amendment to the ordinance to allow this.
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Public Comment: None
Barry Wood moved to adjourn.
Motion seconded by Chad Powers
Motion passed unanimously.
Respectf II submitted,
James Bennett, Chief Plan Analyst Draft Date: 07/29/2014
Approved Date: 08/12/2014
cc: Mayor's Office Board Secretary
City Clerk's Office Building Safety Office Staff Representatives
Appeal folders Appeal applicants
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ol }`vSf DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND
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NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT
316 N. Capitol Avenue, Suites C-1 • Lansing MI 48933-1238
(517)483-4355• FAX: (517)377-0169
BUILDING SAFETY OFFICE
Virg Bernero, Mayor
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING
BUILDING BOARD OF APPEALS
Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 2:00 pm
August 12, 2014
The August 12, 2014 meeting of the City of Lansing Building Board of Appeals was called to order at
2:08 PM. by James Drake, Vice Chairman. The following members were in attendance:
James Drake, Vice Chairman
Barry Wood
Chad Powers
Members Absent: Excused Absence — Don Heck, Chairman
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Staff Present: James Bennett, Chief Plan Review Analyst/Building Official
Petitioners Present: Dennis Graham, Ingham County Land bank t<?
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Public Present: None
James Drake asked for the approval of the July 9, 2014 meeting minutes. Barry Wood mWe d7notEea to
approve the minutes. Motion seconded by Chad Powers. Motion carried unanimously. :
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Old Business: None
New Business:
Case No.: Address: Petitioner:
BBA-006-2014 3024 Turner Street Ingham County Land Bank-
Dennis Graham
James Drake introduced Dennis Graham from the Ingham County Land Bank (ICLB). Mr. Graham
explained that ICLB obtained the property at 3024 Turner that was previously occupied by a home
improvement contractor. The ICLB submitted drawings and permit applications for interior alterations to
the office space including the basement. It was assumed that since the basement space had already
been used as office that the use was legal.
When one of the electrical inspectors was doing his inspection he questioned the ceiling height in the
basement. Mr. Graham contacted the Building Safety Office and it was determined that the basement
space was originally built out as office space without permits and was therefore never approved as a
legal occupancy.
The ICLB proposes to make a number of fire and life safety improvements to the basement that would
not otherwise be required by the code as outlined in the materials submitted with the appeal. Further the
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space is not normally occupied as it is used for storage and the offices of seasonal program staff that
spend the vast majority of their time in the field. They are requesting relief from the ceiling height
requirement of the code.
Mr. Bennett commented that the Building Safety Office had no objections to the granting of the appeal
given the space had two exits directly to the exterior and they were adding an emergency escape and
rescue opening as part of the project in addition to other measures.
Chad Powers made the following motion;
l move to grant the appeal for a variance of code section 1208.2 MBC per the sketch provided and as
described by Dennis Graham.
Barry Wood seconded the motion.
Motion carried unanimously.
Public Comment: None
Barry Wood moved to adjourn.
Motion seconded by Chad Powers
Motion passed unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 2:25 PM.
Respectfully submitted,
James Bennett, Chief Plan Analyst Draft Date: 8/14/2014
Approved Date:
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City Clerk's Office Building Safety Office Staff Representatives
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S 1 �G Department of Planning and
Neighborhood Development
316 N.Capitol Ave.,Suite C-1—Lansing,
MI 48933-1238—(517)4834355—Fax(517)377-0169
Robert Johnson,Director
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Virg Bernero,Mayor Building Safety Office
October 23, 2014
To: City Clerk's Office
City Council Office
City Hall Personnel
Mayor's Office
From: James Bennett
RE:
BUILDING BOARD OF APPEALS
MEETING CANCELLATION NOTICE
The regularly scheduled Building Board of Appeals Meeting for Novemnber 12, 2014, has been
cancelled.
The next regularly scheduled meeting will be December 9, 2014, at 2:00 pm in the Conference
Room at 316 N. Capitol Avenue, Suite C-3, Lansing, MI.
Cc: Board Members (4)
Building Safety Lobby
Board Secretary
Appeal folders
Applicants
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S l 1 Department of Planning and
j Neighborhood Development
316 N.Capitol Ave.,Suite C-I—Lansing,M1 48933-1238—(517)483-4355—Fax(517)377-0169
Robert Johnson,Director
!c H I G www.cityoflansingmi.com
Virg Berncro,Mayor Building Safety Office
August 21, 2014
To: City Clerk's Office
City Council Office
City Hall Personnel
Mayor's Office
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MEETING CANCELLATION NOTICE
The regularly scheduled Building Board of Appeals Meeting for September 9, 2014, has been
cancelled.
The next regularly scheduled meeting will be October 14, 2014, at 2:00 pm in the Conference
Room at 316 N. Capitol Avenue, Suite C-3, Lansing, MI.
Cc: Board Members (4)
Building Safety Lobby
Board Secretary
Appeal folders
Applicants
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316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1 • Lansing MI 48933-1238
(517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169
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BUILDING SAFETY OFFICE
Virg Bernero, Mayor
OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING
BUILDING BOARD OF APPEALS ,.
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The August 12, 2014 meeting of the City of Lansing Building Board of Appeals was called t®=ordei-at
2:08 PM. by James Drake, Vice Chairman. The following members were in attendance:
James Drake, Vice Chairman !I
Barry Wood �R=
Chad Powers
Members Absent: Excused Absence — Don Heck, Chairman
Staff Present: James Bennett, Chief Plan Review Analyst/Building Official
Petitioners Present: Dennis Graham, Ingham County Land bank
Public Present: None
James Drake asked for the approval of the July 9, 2014 meeting minutes. Barry Wood made a motion to
approve the minutes. Motion seconded by Chad Powers. Motion carried unanimously.
Old Business: None
New Business:
Case No.: Address: Petitioner:
BBA-006-2014 3024 Turner Street Ingham County Land Bank-
Dennis Graham
James Drake introduced Dennis Graham from the Ingham County Land Bank (ICLB). Mr. Graham
explained that ICLB obtained the property at 3024 Turner that was previously occupied by a home
improvement contractor. The ICLB submitted drawings and permit applications for interior alterations to
the office space including the basement. It was assumed that since the basement space had already
been used as office that the use was legal.
When one of the electrical inspectors was doing his inspection he questioned the ceiling height in the
basement. Mr. Graham contacted the Building Safety Office and it was determined that the basement
space was originally built out as office space without-permits and was therefore never approved as a
legal occupancy.
The ICLB proposes to make a number of fire and life safety improvements to the basement that would
not otherwise be required by the code as outlined in the materials submitted with the appeal. Further the
1
space is not normally occupied as it is used for storage and the offices of seasonal program staff that
spend the vast majority of their time in the field. They are requesting relief from the ceiling height
requirement of the code.
Mr. Bennett commented that the Building Safety Office had no objections to the granting of the appeal
given the space had two exits directly to the exterior and they were adding an emergency escape and
rescue opening as part of the project in addition to other measures.
Chad Powers made the following motion;
1 move to grant the appeal for a variance of code section 1208.2 MBC per the sketch provided and as
described by Dennis Graham.
Barry Wood seconded the motion.
Motion carried unanimously.
Public Comment: None
Barry Wood moved to adjourn.
Motion seconded by Chad Powers
Motion passed unanimously. Meeting adjourned at 2:25 PM.
Res p Ily submitted,
James Bennett, Chief Plan Analyst Draft Date: 8/14/2014
Approved Date: 10/14/2014
cc: Mayor's Office Board Secretary
City Clerk's Office Building Safety Office Staff Representatives
Appeal folders Appeal applicants
Public file-original
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