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HomeMy WebLinkAboutElectrical Board 2004 Minutes SIN DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND v c NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1 &C-2 • Lansing MI 48933-1238 (517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169 BUILDING SAFETY Tony Benavides, Mayor OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING ELECTRICAL BOARD OF APPEALS Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:00 pm February 17, 2004 Members Present: Joe Peters, Howard Lutz, Rowland Cornish III Members Absent: Walt Smiley, Staff Present: Mel Ott, Chief Electrical Inspector Brian Carter, Electrical Inspector Chairman Joe Peters called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. The minutes of January 20, 2004 were read. Rowland Cornish III made a motion to approve the minutes. Motion seconded by Howard Lutz. Motion carried. Old Business: NONE New Business: NONE The Board discussed a safety alert from Underwriters Laboratories regarding GFCI receptacles manufactured by Shanghi Meihao Electric located in China. U.L. warns of potential shock hazard with these particular GFCI receptacles. They may not trip when a ground fault current occurs. It was reported that the new arc fault detector requirement will be a part of the 2002 Michigan Electrical Code. It was a real struggle between the Home Builder's Association and the Electrical Industry, but the Electrical Code prevailed. Meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Melvin Ott, Secretary Draft date: 2/27/04 Approved date: cc: Mayor's Office City Clerk's Office Board Secretary Public file-original y� SING .DEPARTMENT OF PLAN 'NG AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1 &C-2 • Lansing MI 48933-1238 (517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169 I C H I G P BUILDING SAFETY Tony Benavides,Mayor OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING ELECTRICAL BOARD OF APPEALS Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:00 pm December 21 , 2004 Members Present: Joe Peters, Howard Lutz, Walt Smiley, Rowland Cornish III Members Absent: NONE Staff Present: Mel Ott, Chief Electrical Inspector Brian Carter, Electrical Inspector Chairman Joe Peters called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. The minutes of October 19, 2004 were read. Howard Lutz made a motion to approve the minutes. Motion seconded by Walt Smiley. Motion carried. Old Business: NONE New Business: Mel Ott reminded the Board about the appeal scheduled for January 18, 2005. The remainder of the meeting was devoted to dinner. Meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Brian Carter Acting Secretary Draft date: January 19, 2005 Approved date: cc: Mayor's Office � � City Clerk's Office Appeal folders Board Secretary Appeal applicants Public file-original �-� S `N� jEPARTMENT OF PLAN ING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1&C-2 • Lansing MI 48933-1238 (517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169 jC H 1 GA BUILDING SAFETY Tony Benavides,Mayor OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING ELECTRICAL BOARD OF APPEALS Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:00 pm December 21 , 2004 Members Present: Joe Peters, Howard Lutz, Walt Smiley, Rowland Cornish III Members Absent: NONE Staff Present: Mel Ott, Chief Electrical Inspector Brian Carter, Electrical Inspector Chairman Joe Peters called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. The minutes of October 19, 2004 were read. Howard Lutz made a motion to approve the minutes. Motion seconded by Walt Smiley. Motion carried. Old Business: NONE New Business: Mel Ott reminded the Board about the appeal scheduled for January 18, 2005. The remainder of the meeting was devoted to dinner. Meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Brian Carter Acting Secretary Draft date: January 19, 2005 Approved date: cc: Mayor's Office City Clerk's Office Appeal folders Board Secretary Appeal applicants Public file-original SING DLPARTMENT OF PLC .NNING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 316 N. Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1 &C-2 • Lansing MI 48933-1238 (517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169 I C H i G BUILDING SAFETY OFFICE Tony Benavides,Mayor Date: November 1, 2004 To: City Clerk's Office City Council Offices City Hall Personnel Mayor's Office From: Mel Ott RE: (-, ; ELECTRICAL BOARD OF APPEALS MEETING CANCELLATION NOTICE The regularly scheduled Electrical Board of Appeals Meeting for Tuesday, November 16, 2004, has been cancelled. The next regularly scheduled meeting will be Tuesday, December 21, 2004, at 7:00 pm in the Conference Room at 316 N. Capitol Ave., Suite C-3, Lansing, Michigan. cc: Board Members (4) Building Safety Lobby Board Secretary Appeal folders Applicants Public file-Original y�r1 S 1 DEPARTMENT OF PLM ING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1&C-2 • Lansing MI 48933-1238 (517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169 Ic x t G A BUILDING SAFETY Tony Benavides,Mayor OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING ELECTRICAL BOARD OF APPEALS Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:00 pm October 19, 2004 Members Present: Joe Peters, Howard Lutz, Walt Smiley Members Absent: Rowland Cornish III Staff Present: Mel Ott, Chief Electrical Inspector & Brian Carter, Electrical Inspector Chairman Joe Peters called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. The minutes of September 21, 2004 were read. Walt Smiley made a motion to approve the minutes. Motion seconded by Howard Lutz. Motion carried. Old Business: Due to Brian Carter's absence at the September 21, 2004 meeting there was a short discussion on the appeal submitted on May 20, 2003 by Michael Tobin, President of the Group 5 Management Company. New Business: Mel Ott handed out an updated (June 27, 2003) "Requirements for a Construction Board of Appeals". This document was reviewed by the Electrical Board Members. There was no discussion. The November 16, 2004 board meeting has been cancelled because members will be absent due to the opening of deer season. The Electrical Board decided to hold the December 21, 2004 meeting at the Texas Road House at 6:00 p.m. The remainder of the meeting was used to discuss the recall of arc fault circuit breakers produced by Square D company. There was also discussion on the use and requirement of series rated circuit breakers in regard to downstream protection of panelboards against available short circuit current at the supply terminals. Meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted, C Melvin Ott, Secretary Draft date: October 29}2004 Approved date: �` ,�� I cc: Mayor's Office Appeal folders 0�� ��� �`� �CK) City Clerk's Office Appeal applicants Board Secretary Public file-original y�r1 S I NG DEPARTMENT OF PLAT' 'ING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1&C-2 • Lansing MI 48933-1238 (517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169 I H t o BUILDING SAFETY Tony Benavides,Mayor OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING ELECTRICAL BOARD OF APPEALS Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:00 pm October 19, 2004 Members Present: Joe Peters, Howard Lutz, Walt Smiley Members Absent: Rowland Cornish III Staff Present: Mel Ott, Chief Electrical Inspector & Brian Carter, Electrical Inspector Chairman Joe Peters called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. The minutes of September 21, 2004 were read. Walt Smiley made a motion to approve the minutes. Motion seconded by Howard Lutz. Motion carried. Old Business: Due to Brian Carter's absence at the September 21, 2004 meeting there was a short discussion on the appeal submitted on May 20, 2003 by Michael Tobin, President of the Group 5 Management Company. New Business: Mel Ott handed out an updated (June 27, 2003) "Requirements for a Construction Board of Appeals". This document was reviewed by the Electrical Board Members. There was no discussion. The November 16, 2004 board meeting has been cancelled because members will be absent due to the opening of deer season. The Electrical Board decided to hold the December 21, 2004 meeting at the Texas Road House at 6:00 p.m. The remainder of the meeting was used to discuss the recall of arc fault circuit breakers produced by Square D company. There was also discussion on the use and requirement of series rated circuit breakers in regard to downstream protection of panelboards against available short circuit current at the supply terminals. Meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted, C Melvin Ott, Secretary Draft date: October 29, 2004 Approved date: cc: Mayor's Office Appeal folders City Clerk's Office Appeal applicants Board Secretary Public file-original ye'� S 1 NG DEPARTMENT OF PLAN ]NG AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1&C-2 • Lansing MI 48933-1238 (517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169 Ic HIG BUILDING SAFETY Tony Benavides,Mayor OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING ELECTRICAL BOARD OF APPEALS Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:00 pm September 21 , 2004 Members Present: Howard Lutz, Joe Peters, Rowland Cornish III Members Absent: Walt Smiley Staff Present: Mel Ott, Chief Electrical Inspector Staff Absent: Brian Carter, Electrical Inspector Chairman Joe Peters called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. The minutes of May 18, 2004 were read. Rowland Cornish III made a motion to approve the minutes. Motion seconded by Howard Lutz. Motion carried. Old Business: The Board reviewed an appeal that was submitted May 20, 2003, Case No. BBA-001-2003 by Mr. Michael Tobin, President of Group 5 Management Company. The appeal was regarding GFI protection of kitchen counter top receptacles. Apparently this appeal should have been heard by the Building Board of Appeals before being heard by the Electrical Board of Appeals. The Electrical Board discussed this matter and tabled it pending further information from Code Compliance. New Business: None The remainder of the meeting was used to discuss new 2002 NEC requirements. Meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Melvin Ott, Secretary Draft date: 10/4/04 Approved date- ;� � `�� CT) cc: Mayor's Office City Clerk's Office Appeal folders Board Secretary Appeal applicants Public file-original y�� S INS DEPARTMENT OF PLAT ]ING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1&C-2 • Lansing MI 48933-1238 (517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169 I x t o BUILDING SAFETY Tony Benavides,Mayor OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING ELECTRICAL BOARD OF APPEALS Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:00 pm September 21 , 2004 Members Present: Howard Lutz, Joe Peters, Rowland Cornish III Members Absent: Walt Smiley Staff Present: Mel Ott, Chief Electrical Inspector Staff Absent: Brian Carter, Electrical Inspector Chairman Joe Peters called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. The minutes of May 18, 2004 were read. Rowland Cornish III made a motion to approve the minutes. Motion seconded by Howard Lutz. Motion carried. Old Business: The Board reviewed an appeal that was submitted May 20, 2003, Case No. BBA-001-2003 by Mr. Michael Tobin, President of Group 5 Management Company. The appeal was regarding GFI protection of kitchen counter top receptacles. Apparently this appeal should have been heard by the Building Board of Appeals before being heard by the Electrical Board of Appeals. The Electrical Board discussed this matter and tabled it pending further information from Code Compliance. New Business: None The remainder of the meeting was used to discuss new 2002 NEC requirements. Meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Melvin Ott, Secretary Draft date: 10/4/04 Approved date: cc: Mayor's Office City Clerk's Office Appeal folders Board Secretary Appeal applicants Public file-original S 1� DEPARTMENT OF PLAT IING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1 &C-2 • Lansing MI 48933-1238 (517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169 BUILDING SAFETY Tony Benavides, Mayor OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING ELECTRICAL BOARD OF APPEALS Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:00 pm May 18, 2004 Members Present: Howard Lutz, Joe Peters, Walt Smiley, Rowland Cornish III Members Absent: NONE Staff Present: Mel Ott, Chief Electrical Inspector Brian Carter, Electrical Inspector Chairman Joe Peters called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. The minutes of April 20, 2004 were read. Walt Smiley made a motion to approve the minutes. Motion seconded by Rowland Cornish III. Motion carried. Old Business: NONE New Business: Rowland Cornish III made a motion that the Board cancels the meetings for June, July and August unless this Board submits an appeal for action. Seconded by Walt Smiley, motion carried. There was no other new business. The remainder of the meeting was used for a lengthy discussion on Article 680-22 regarding GFI protection for swimming pool motors. Meeting adjourned at 9.00 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Melvin Ott, Secretary Draft date: May 27, 2004 cc: Mayor's Office Approved date: (� tiZ (� ;9,1 City Clerk's Office Board Secretary Public file-original S I N� vEPARTMENT OF PLAN, .ING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1 &C-2 • Lansing MI 48933-1238 (517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169 I C H I Cs P BUILDING SAFETY Tony Benavides,Mayor OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING ELECTRICAL BOARD OF APPEALS Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:00 pm May 18, 2004 Members Present: Howard Lutz, Joe Peters, Rowland Cornish III Members Absent: Walt Smiley Staff Present: Mel Ott, Chief Electrical Inspector Staff Absent: Brian Carter, Electrical Inspector Chairman Joe Peters called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. The minutes of May 18, 2004 were read. Rowland Cornish III made a motion to approve the minutes. Motion seconded by Howard Lutz. Motion carried. Old Business: The Board reviewed an appeal that was submitted May 20, 2003, Case No. BBA-001-2003 by Mr. Michael Tobin, President of Group 5 Management Company. The appeal was regarding GFI protection of kitchen counter top receptacles. Apparently this appeal should have been heard by the Building Board of Appeals before being heard by the Electrical Board of Appeals. The Electrical Board discussed this matter and tabled it pending further information from Code Compliance. New Business: None The remainder of the meeting was used to discuss new 2002 NEC requirements. Meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Melvin Ott, Secretary Draft date: 10/4/04 Approved date: cc, Mayor's Office Appeal folders - City Clerk's Office Board Secretary Appeal applicants Public file-original S z N DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suite C-1 • Lansing MI 48933-1238 j H I (517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169 Tony Benavides,Mayor BUILDING SAFETY AND CODE COMPLIANCE OFFICE OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY SI G ELECTRICAL BOARD OF APPEALS Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:00 pm March 16, 2004 Members present: Howard Lutz, Joe Peters Members absent: Rowland Cornish III, Walt Smiley Staff Present: Mel Ott, Chief Electrical Inspector Brian Carter, Electrical Inspector The Electrical Board of Appeals did not have a quorum and the meeting was cancelled. Respectfully submitted, Draft Date: March 19, 2004 Melvin Ott, Secretary cc: Mayor's office City Clerk's office Board Secretary Public file-original SING DEPARTMENT OF PLA► _.DING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1&C-2 - Lansing MI 48933-1238 (517)483-4355-FAX: (517)377-0169 BUILDING SAFETY Tony Benavides,Mayor OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING ELECTRICAL BOARD OF APPEALS Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:00 pm May 18, 2004 Members Present: Howard Lutz, Joe Peters, Walt Smiley, Rowland Cornish III Members Absent: NONE Staff Present: Mel Ott, Chief Electrical Inspector Brian Carter, Electrical Inspector Chairman Joe Peters called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. The minutes of April 20, 2004 were read. Walt Smiley made a motion to approve the minutes. Motion seconded by Rowland Cornish III. Motion carried. Old Business: NONE New Business: Rowland Cornish III made a motion that the Board cancels the meetings for June, July and August unless this Board submits an appeal for action. Seconded by Walt Smiley, motion carried. There was no other new business. The remainder of the meeting was used for a lengthy discussion on Article 680-22 regarding GFI protection for swimming pool motors. Meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Melvin Ott, Secretary Draft date: May 27, 2004 Approved date: cc: Mayor's Office City Clerk's Office Board Secretary Public file-original S 1 DEPARTMENT OF PLAC :ING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1&C-2 • Lansing MI 48933-1238 (517)4834355•FAX: (517)377-0169 jc x t o BUILDING SAFETY Tony Benavides, Mayor OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING ELECTRICAL BOARD OF APPEALS . Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:00 pm April 20, 2004 Members Present: Joe Peters, Howard Lutz, Walt Smiley, Rowland Cornish III Members Absent: NONE Staff Present: Mel Ott, Chief Electrical Inspector Chairman Joe Peters called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. The minutes of February 17, 2004 were read. Walt Smiley made a motion to approve the minutes. Motion seconded by Rowland Cornish III. Motion carried. It was noted that the March 16, 2004 meeting did not have a quorum and the meeting was cancelled. Old Business: NONE New Business: Mel Ott asked the Board for advice regarding non-licensed electricians (custodians or maintenance people) replacing fluorescent ballasts that are 277 volt. The Board discussed this issue and Howard Lutz made a motion that this Board recommend that only licensed electricians replace ballasts that operate at 277 volts. There was further discussion regarding unlicensed people working under a permit of a contractor they do not work for. This practice is in violation of State of Michigan Electrical Law and will not be tolerated. Meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted, AJ,_ a�- Melvin Oft, Secretary Draft date: May 5, 2004 Approved dater�. ����;CI Z cc: Mayor's Office City �- Clerk's Office Board Secretary Public file-original S 1 "c )EPARTMENT OF PLAT :ING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1 &C-2 • Lansing MI 48933-1238 (517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169 Ic x t o BUILDING SAFETY Tony Benavides, Mayor OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING ELECTRICAL BOARD OF APPEALS . Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:00 pm April 20, 2004 Members Present: Joe Peters, Howard Lutz, Walt Smiley, Rowland Cornish III Members Absent: NONE Staff Present: Mel Ott, Chief Electrical Inspector Chairman Joe Peters called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. The minutes of February 17, 2004 were read. Walt Smiley made a motion to approve the minutes. Motion seconded by Rowland Cornish III. Motion carried. It was noted that the March 16, 2004 meeting did not have a quorum and the meeting was cancelled. Old Business: NONE New Business: Mel Ott asked the Board for advice regarding non-licensed electricians (custodians or maintenance people) replacing fluorescent ballasts that are 277 volt. The Board discussed this issue and Howard Lutz made a motion that this Board recommend that only licensed electricians replace ballasts that operate at 277 volts. There was further discussion regarding unlicensed people working under a permit of a contractor they do not work for. This practice is in violation of State of Michigan Electrical Law and will not be tolerated. Meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Melvin Ott, Secretary Draft date: May 5, 2004 Approved date: cc: Mayor's Office City Clerk's Office Board Secretary Public file-original 51 "G DEPARTMENT OF PL. JNING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1&C-2 • Lansing MI 48933-1238 (517)483-4355•FAX: (517)377-0169 BUILDING SAFETY Tony Benavides,Mayor OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING ELECTRICAL BOARD OF APPEALS Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:00 pm January 20, 2004 Members Present: Joe Peters, Howard Lutz, Walt Smiley, Rowland Cornish III Members Absent: NONE Staff Present: Mel Ott, Chief Electrical Inspector Brian Carter, Electrical Inspector Chairman Joe Peters called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. The minutes of December 16, 2003 were read. Walt Smiley made a motion to approve the minutes as read. Motion seconded by Howard Lutz. Motion carried. Old Business: NONE New Business: NONE The Board had a lengthy discussion on the new State of Michigan licensing laws and the Michigan Energy Code as it applies to the Electrical Code. The remainder of the time was spent discussing high voltage insulators that the utilities on 138,000 volt transmission lines. Meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Melvin Oft, Secretary Draft date: January 27, 2004 Approved date: C�( cc: Mayor's Office City Clerk's Office Board Secretary Public file-original yP� S I N� DEPARTMENT OF PL, .DINING AND NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT 316 N.Capitol Avenue,Suites C-1 &C-2 • Lansing MI 48933-1238 (517)4834355•FAX: (517)377-0169 BUILDING SAFETY Tony Benavides, Mayor OFFICIAL PROCEEDINGS OF THE CITY OF LANSING ELECTRICAL BOARD OF APPEALS Held at 316 N. Capitol Ave. at 7:00 pm January 20, 2004 Members Present: Joe Peters, Howard Lutz, Walt Smiley, Rowland Cornish III Members Absent: NONE Staff Present: Mel Ott, Chief Electrical Inspector Brian Carter, Electrical Inspector Chairman Joe Peters called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. The minutes of December 16, 2003 were read. Walt Smiley made a motion to approve the minutes as read. Motion seconded by Howard Lutz. Motion carried. Old Business: NONE New Business: NONE The Board had a lengthy discussion on the new State of Michigan licensing laws and the Michigan Energy Code as it applies to the Electrical Code. The remainder of the time was spent discussing high voltage insulators that the utilities on 138,000 volt transmission lines. Meeting adjourned at 9:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Melvin Ott, Secretary Draft date: January 27, 2004 %— Approved date: cc: Mayors Office i City Clerk's Office Board Secretary Public file-original January 20,2004 Honorable Tony Benavides Council President and Council Members Re: 2003 Electrical Board Evaluation This report is to evaluate the effectiveness of the board and analyze the statue and priorities for services and activities of the agencies it advises. The Electrical Board continued it's efforts to advise homeowners, developers and contractors on new standards and procedures required by City Ordinance and the National Electrical Code. The attendance record to the board meetings is as follows: MEMBERS MEETINGS Mel Ott 6 Brian Carter 6 Joe Peters 6 Howard Lutz 5 Walt Smiley 5 Rowland Cornish 6 The February, August and November meetings were cancelled. The March, April, & September meetings were cancelled due to lack of quorum. The December meeting was a dinner Meeting. Respectfully Submitted, 9R � Joseph N. Peters Chairman