HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes 12.03.2024 Minutes for the City of Lansing Charter Commission
Regular Meeting I Tuesday, December 3, 2024, 6:30 PM
Tony Benavides City Council Chambers,
Lansing City Hall, 1 Oth floor, 124 W. Michigan Ave.
Present: Commissioners Adams Simon,Anderson, Bauer, Dowd, Lopez, Qawwee,Washington(6:38)
Absent: Commissioner Jeffries (excused)
Staff Present: City Clerk Swope, Deputy Clerk Drever,Attorney Rewa
Call to Order
The meeting was called to order by Vice-Chair Adams Simon at 6:30 PM.
Roll Call
Clerk Swope called the roll of the Commission.A quorum was present.
Adopt the Agenda
Moved by Commissioner Qawwee to adopt the agenda as presented.
Motion Carried.
Public Comment
No public comments were made.
Officer Reports
Chair
No Report.
Vice-Chair
No Report.
Clerk
Clerk Swope acknowledged written communications in the packet.
Presentations
Jake Brower, the City of Lansing Chief Strategy Officer, presented to the Commission on legislation that
governs the financial operations of the City. Then, he took questions about investments, City Council,public
participation in the budget, retirement, and position duties.
Old Business
A. Article 1: Line-by-Line Review
Vice-Chair Adams Simon summarized the actions taken on Article 1: chapters 1 and 4 were approved as
presented, chapter 2 was referred to the attorney for clarifications on the definitions of Officer, Publish, and
Statute, chapter 3 was referred to the attorney regarding publicly accessible data and inspection of City records,
and chapter was referred to the attorney to update the penalties.
1-205: Generally
Attorney Rewa clarified the purpose of the phrase "unless the context clearly indicates otherwise" in 1-205 and
recommended the phrase be kept in the Charter.
1-205: Officer
Attorney Rewa explained that she will have an opinion on the impact of removing"members of boards and
commissions"from the definition of`officer' for the December 17t'meeting.
1-205: Publish
Attorney Rewa explained the opinion issued on the definition of`publish'will need to comply with regulations
in state law. She talked about clarifying specific types of publishing elsewhere in the Charter and recommended
employing a"both/and" definition to expand publishing locations, so long as is feasible for City employees.
She directed the Commission to other charters with similar provisions, such as the Pontiac and Ann Arbor
charters.
Commissioner Dowd: To me the glaring piece to change is to remove the term"bulletin boards". I think that
was done at a time when that was a way to publish, I don't know that any constituent is going to come down to
City Hall to check the bulletin to see announcements that are going on. That doesn't make a ton of sense in my
mind. Newspaper makes sense as does the language "other media permitted by law."I think that opens it up and
it can be the directive of whomever is making that decision to publish. Then the definition just states this is
what's allowable or required.
Commissioner Anderson: I want to make note that I want it to be broad enough to allow there to be flexibility,
but I want it to make it clear that this is also what's expected. It's expected of us as a government that we're
going above and beyond in communicating with our residents with our notices. So whatever language makes
that happen is what I would be in support of.
Commissioner Washington: Could the official city website be considered the bulletin board if there were a place
when you first opened it up to see published notices?
Attorney Rewa: Just so we're clear, some state law still requires posting, that's the Open Meetings Act (OMA):
you have to physically post it and you can post it otherwise. Keep in mind there are certain specific things
where it's going to have to be a certain way. This [definition] is sort of a catch-all where if it's not stated
elsewhere how you do it, this is how the charter directs the City to do it.
Commissioner Washington: We're not writing this charter for today,but for today and thirty years in the future.
It would be important in there to do whatever it is we need to do now,but we don't know what communication
will look like in 20-30 years, so we need to have something there that states "or as specified by City Council."
Commissioner Lopez: would it be possible to mention"existing technologies"?That would open it for
Facebook or social media.
Attorney Rewa: You certainly could. My recommendation is you could say social media, but I would stay away
from specific branding.
Commissioner Lopez: Just say"technology". That's the direction we're going. If this charter is for the future, I
think we should talk about the future, and certainly technology is advancing, and we need to keep up with it.
Attorney Rewa: You could say something broad and then give examples for guidance, such as in the Ann Arbor
and Pontiac charters. In terms of what something like "widespread dissemination"means, you can provide a list
that helps guide. That's something you could consider in developing that language.
Commissioner Bauer: to follow up on what Commissioner Anderson said, I like the language "widespread
dissemination to the public."We want to make it clear that we want transparent and widespread dissemination,
and that's the goal.And whatever other language needs to be in.
Attorney Rewa: I can draft a proposed bit of language that has that broader goal type language, and then I can
also have "including but not limited to ..."
Commissioner Boyd: I agree with Commissioners Bauer and Anderson, we have to have it available
electronically, we also have to post it for people who don't use computers.
Commissioner Qawwee: I think the widespread dissemination part form Pontiac. I would also like to
incorporate form Ann Arbor's Charter Section 7.4., I think we could do a merge of the two to cover all aspects
mentioned here.
Commissioner Dowd: We want to make sure there's not an out that somebody could get something to happen
without the public knowing. We want to make sure in our charter we are saying, you have to do more than the
bare minimum.
Attorney Rewa explained the meaning of the definition of`statute'and provided a recommendation to leave the
language in place to clarify the moment in time.
1-301: City Records to be Public
Attorney Rewa explained the purpose of this section: to establish records are owned by the City and that they
shall be available for inspection. She explained the practical applications of the Freedom of Information Act
(FOIA). She recommended the Commission consider whether they want to add an open data policy to the
Charter. She explained that should the Commission move to establish a board on data transparency, addressing
it in Article 5.
Clerk Swope explained procedures for answering FOIA requests and explained why the records are not always
immediately accessible. The language in this section creates an unreasonable expectation.
Commissioner Qawwee addressed consistency in expectations set forth in this provision.
Commissioner Boyd: Echoing Commissioner Qawwee, our intention from our discussion last week was this
section would be "during regular business hours by appointment" I think that needs to be included.
Commissioner Lopez: I think all this is covered by the statement"as allowed by law". Is it state or federal law?
Attorney Rewa: The intent was to do it broadly, because there are things the city might possess that would be
protected by federal law. FOIA isn't the only statute that covers the law, so my recommendation is to make it as
broad as possible.
Attorney Rewa offered to bring additional language for the Commission to discuss further.
Commissioner Washington: You could also put something in there to give a definition of what you want to look
at. I think we should put in there to specify what they want to inspect.
Vice-Chair Adams Simon: Would changing"in accordance with state law"to specifically referencing FOIA,
would that be too encompassing? Can we directly reference FOIA, so people understand how this process
works?
Attorney Rewa: FOIA is one method for how you look at records. I would caution against limiting to FOIA,
based on the discussions you are having about transparency.
The Commissioners discussed how to make data about City residents more accessible.
Vice-Chair Adams Simon proposed a data and transparency Commission.
Clerk Swope explained that the City might not currently keep data sets as envisioned by the Commission.
Commissioner Anderson proposed data aggregated by ward for demographics, socioeconomics, and City
spending.
Commissioner Washington, echoing Commissioner Anderson's remarks,proposed adding a position for a
statistician.
1-401
Attorney Rewa explained relative to Article 1-401 that enforcement is not in the Commission's jurisdiction.
1-501
Attorney Rewa said a legal opinion on Article 1-501 would be provided for the December 17t'meeting.
New Business
A. Article 2: Line-by-Line Review
Vice-Chair Adams Simon explained the Commission will review Article 2, with the understanding that they will
circle back to the discussion of number of wards later.
Moved by Commissioner Washington to accept the recommendations of the attorney from Article 1.
These recommendations include:
Keeping the language "unless the context clearly indicates otherwise"in 1-205;
More modern methods of information dissemination can be included in the definition of"publish";
Keeping the phrase "as it exists at the time the provision containing the words STATUTE is to be
applied" in the definition of statute;
Changing"and shall be available for inspection during regular business hours"to "and shall be available
pursuant to law" in 1-301.1
Motion Carried.
2-101.1
Vice-Chair Adams Simon: Should 2-101.1 include"other offices elected by residents of Lansing"?
Attorney Rewa: This commission is different because it's set up by state law. You're going to have to specify
who the elected officers are in point 1.
Commissioner Washington: Can the city attorney be elected in Michigan?
Attorney Rewa: There's nothing prohibiting that, I am unaware of any City Attorney that is elected in Michigan.
Commissioner Washington: I ask because a lot of people would like to see our city attorney elected, not
appointed, because of the conflict that happens. They're support to the mayor and the city council, but because
the mayor can fire,the attorneys when they opine tend to go in one direction. I have had a lot of people suggest
we elect our city attorney.And I've had people suggest we not elect our city clerk but appoint them.
Attorney Rewa: According to Home Rule City Act, the charter has to provide for the following: the election of
the mayor who is the chief executive officer of the city, and a body vested with legislative powers, and for the
election or appointment of a clerk, a treasurer, an assessor or board of assessors, board of review, and other
officers considered necessary.
2-101.2
Commissioner Boyd: In 2-101.2 I believe that the second phrase "And shall serve until the election and
qualification of a successor" should be eliminated.
Commissioner Qawwee: What if there's a runoff?What if there's no direct person that won that election?You
don't want to leave that position vacant.
Clerk Swope: We do not have runoffs in Michigan. Someone is elected.
Commissioner Washington: Is this language important should somebody be removed from Council, or they die?
Clerk Swope: I don't know that the language is necessary, I don't know if our attorney knows if it appears in
other charters. I don't know if this sentence is part of the interpretation that boards and commissions continue.
There are township clerks across the state positions that have had no one file for office. I guess in the
circumstance where no one filed for a specific office,this would allow someone to continue until an
appointment is made.Also, without this, the Council could appoint the person who didn't run for reelection.
Attorney Rewa: To the extent you want me to look at whether striking this is possible, I can look at that for next
time.
2-101.3
Commissioner Boyd: I am curious what the Clerk has to say on this.
Clerk Swope: I think every member of every county commission is up for election at the same time, every
member of every township board is up for election at the same time. Large number of cities have all their
elected officials up for election at the same time.As I pointed out last time,the fact that the wards are on a
different cycle. We do end up with the situation where with reapportionment, some voters get to vote for a ward
member twice in a row, and some voters go two city elections without voting for a ward member. If we had all
elected officials elected at the same time, that would save at least $100,000; we spend an excess of$50,000 per
election, and we have an August primary and November election.
Commissioner Bauer: I assume the reason we've done this is, so you always have 50% of your council, you
have some stability. I'm now wondering, it's very interesting that you pointed out that a lot of other areas don't
do that, which I hadn't thought about. I would tend to still think it's better, from my own experience, to have
50% of the people on a council who have has some experience,than the chance that you could have all new
people. I'm very open.
Commissioner Washington: I like the idea of everyone being elected at once. It's a cleaner election. That 50%
that's left, might not be that good.At the end of the day,you are going to have some people reelected. I would
favor just one and done, because you always have that off election where not that many people vote because
there's no presidential, no governor, no anything. When you're being elected by only 11% of the population,
that shows they're not showing up because there's nothing else on the ballot worth voting for.
Commissioner Boyd: I consider it one of my responsibilities as a commissioner to look at should we make
changes in this charter that will reduce the expenses as a city. This is one area we could make a change, and it
would save the city dollars.
Commissioner Lopez: I'm not sold on the one election. I think we can talk about it but I think if we have
staggered elections, I think those who want to do it do it, those that don't, don't,but we would have a better
chance to know the candidates than all at once. I agree with Commissioner Bauer, and I agree that some of the
50%might not do what you want, but we can always bring new people in if the voters agree to change. I wasn't
thinking so much about saving money, I was thinking about making it better for the electorate. I don't know that
money and better for the electorate equals the same. I'm thinking about it. My thing is how do we make the
charter better for the community moving forward.
Commissioner Washington: Regardless of how many wards we go to or what we do with the Council, people
aren't going to be focused on all seven or all nine, they're going to be looking at their ward, so I don't think
that's going to be as big a problem.
Commissioner Dowd: I think it's a good opportunity to think about this, walk away, then come back and
discuss.
2-102
Commissioner Washington: This is for our attorney: when it says here "shall have been a resident of the City for
one year prior to taking office"is that state law? Because you could maybe not live in the city and run for
office. I'm wondering if there's a way we can put in there a time period that you have to be a resident of the city
before you file.
Clerk Swope: I believe Detroit has that. I believe the current mayor of Detroit did not meet that qualification
when he filed and ran as a write-in and won. I think it's legal, I think it's possible to do that.
Commissioner Washington: I think it's something to consider.
Commissioner Boyd: I personally have no trouble with the one-year requirement, but I'm open to what others
have to say.
Clerk Swope: The filing deadline is the end of April, so people will have to live there by January 1 generally, so
people will have to live here for four months,per this provision.
2-103.2
Commissioner Washington: I'm wondering if that shouldn't be a requirement to file.
Vice-Chair Adams Simon: In the language the Clerk provided us as candidates, they cannot be in default to the
city when they take office.
Commissioner Boyd: We could make an amendment here that is in line with the Campaign Finance Act. When
you're running for office, you have to file an affidavit that you've paid all your bills, etc. Why can't we make
that the requirement in writing in this charter?You not only have to have your taxes paid, you have to sign an
affidavit that your taxes are paid when you file.
Clerk Swope: We have a similar affidavit that states "at the time of taking office"because that's what the
Charter requires. The affidavit could be modified. Would that then give the Clerk's office authority to check that
when people file?The other point, you might want to make it both. If you're paid up in April, are you paid in
December when you take office?
Commissioner Boyd: Who gets to be the elected officer, if the person hasn't paid by the time they are sworn in?
The affidavit that any elected official signs should be modified to include that their taxes are paid. I am open to
hearing others on the date of filing or the date of taking office.
Clerk Swope: Property taxes aren't always the best example,because if you owe on February 28, on March 1,
the county pays, so you now owe money to the county and are not in default to the City.
Attorney Rewa: So I'm clear, you would like some guidance on the legal requirements, or law behind, default.
How are we defining default and what does that mean? The concern,based on what I've heard, is two attorneys
came to two different conclusions. To the extent you want to provide more guidance on what that means, now is
your time. Not only when this criterion takes place,but what does it mean to be in default?
Clerk Swope: There is a standing City Attorney opinion on this. I think it would be beneficial to more clearly
define it in the Charter.
Commissioner Washington: There must be a way to say your property taxes are current, all other taxes are
current, and you don't have tickets out there and everything else. There has to be a way to do that. Something
like"all financial obligations".
Attorney Rewa: Are you talking in default just to the government?
Commissioner Washington: Just to the City.
2-103.3
Commissioner Washington: What is the wisdom behind"a person who has held a city office cannot be eligible
for an appointment or employment for which compensation is paid"?
Vice-Chair Adams Simon: I would think it's a conflict of interest. If someone votes in favor of something an
elected official wants done, and then that person is rewarded with an appointment.
2-104.3
Commissioner Boyd:As I read this, "the city may by ordinance by any time alter the procedure for determining
compensation of any officer"what does this mean?Does this mean the City Council can override what the
Officers Compensation Commission has recommended?
Commissioner Washington:An example might be turning down the proposed raise, or moving to a flat rate and
per diem for every meeting attended.
Commissioner Lopez: I was thinking how could we say in the charter that there shall be a compensation
commission to determine ... Now, city council doesn't have to take it. In terms of the Council overriding, why
can't it just be a chartered position?
Clerk Swope: The Home Rule City Act(HRCA)provides for the opportunity to have an elected officers
compensation commission.And the HRCA is specific to the number of days they can meet, and the amount of
time the council has to reject the proposal by a 2/3 majority. This is saying the City Council could adopt an
ordinance to completely change the process.
2-204.2
Commissioner Anderson: I don't understand why there is a cap on the number of signatures. I don't know that it
needs to be in the Charter.
Clerk Swope:A point of election law is that someone can only sign the number of petitions equal to the number
of people to be elected. I think part of the reason for the cap is to stop someone from blocking other people out
by collecting a lot of signatures and turning them in.
2-204.4
Commissioner Lopez: There was discussion that we should up the filing fee to $500. I'm not suggesting we do,
just bringing it up for discussion.
Commissioner Bauer: I would hate to increase this,because it would perhaps discourage people via financial
impediment to file for office. Does anyone know the mayor's rationale for increasing this?
Commissioner Boyd: By raising the fee, it would ensure that people are serious about running. I know we're
talking about marginalized people and ensuring our elective offices are accessible. If you're serious about
running, you'd come up with $500, and I think that's the logic.
Commissioner Washington: This is the exact reason I want 7 or 9 wards and no at-large.As we increase the
income of the elected officials,we are becoming elitist. I am against that 100%. I would vote to keep it at$100
so anyone in public housing could run.
Commissioner Anderson: I think the idea that if people really wanted it, they would come up with the money is
really hard for me to swallow. There are people struggling to pay their electric bill. I don't think that coming up
with the money is contingent on whether you really want something. It's really about access. People don't just
have access to $500 leisurely to make an impact in their community and I think to require that is not okay at all.
Clerk Swope: I would like to remind everyone that the option exists to file signatures or to pay the fee.
Commissioner Boyd: It doesn't have to be $500. I don't really care,but the logic is that it would take more than
someone saying they're going to run.
Commissioner Washington moved to keep the filing fee at $100.
Motion carried.
2-301
Commissioner Bauer: Has a person ever forfeited their office?How does this apply?
Commissioner Lopez: Is there a way we can clarify this and make it more definitive, and make it in line with
state law, or applicable law?
Vice-Chair Adams Simon: It does note that there's a public hearing by City Council, so is that when it goes to
the governor?
Clerk Swope:Attorney Rewa could weigh in as well. Michigan election law does allow the governor to remove
someone, but I don't know that that precludes the City Council removing someone as well.
Vice-Chair Adams Simon: 2-302.3 would need some clarification as well.
2-304
Commissioner Washington: This is where the issue of Deputy Mayor comes up, which has no place in the City
Charter. I think we either need to take it out that the City Council President is acting as mayor, but this has
never been followed.
Vice-Chair Adams Simon: There have been situations where the mayor has bypassed the City Council president.
a deputy mayor has been called on. With new technology, it is possible still perform duties. So, it needs to be
clarified. Who is in charge?
Commissioner Dowd: we need to clarify what"temporary absence"means, so if we're assuming does out of the
City mean unavailable.
Attorney Rewa: Are there proposals about what the idea of this means? I hear incapacitation
Commissioner Dowd: I would suggest out of contact, like there is no ability to contact the person.
Commissioner Qawwee: Currently, we have an acting deputy mayor?
Clerk Swope: Whether a person has the title deputy mayor or not, that person has not been called on to perform
statutory duties. The mayor's position, which he stated here, is he is still in charge,whether he is here or not.
Commissioner Washington: We have talked about adding language for a chief administrative officer who has
administrative, but not statutory duties. I think anything called Deputy Mayor is disingenuous, and that should
be an elected position if we go that route. The mayor should still inform the Council President when they are out
of town.
Commissioner Anderson: We should define "temporary absence", and I am in favor of the Council President
taking over.
2-400 Ballot Issues
Clerk Swope: State law no longer creates a vacancy when there is a recall. I think we need to clean the language
up to comport with current state law, and in case state law changes back,be a little broader.
Attorney Rewa: We are reviewing the whole charter, this chapter in particular, to ensure alignment with state
law.
2-410
Commissioner Boyd: I think this should be repealed; I don't think it's necessary. I think the charter can be
amended by the council if needed. I think what we are doing is a lovely exercise,but it's very costly, and I don't
think it's important enough, so I would strongly recommend this be removed from the charter.
Commissioner Washington: I think the constitution of our city is incredibly important, and I think the people
should elect the people that look at this charter. I would never vote to have this repealed. Does it have to be 12
years?
Vice-Chair Adams Simon: It does not.
Commissioner Lopez: Some cities have a standing charter commission, and I'm wondering if that's something
we should think about. Maybe every 6 months, every 3 months, whatever.
Vice-Chair Adams Simon: We're going to have to come up with a way to position this,where maybe we have a
standing commission. There is no way a charter should go unrevised for 48 years.
Commissioner Anderson: We can make it where we set a number of years, maybe it's 20 years, and we make it
where it's not on the ballot it's automatic where people run for the commission every 20 years or so. Instead of
having the actual revision on the ballot. People should still run to be a charter commissioner, but it shouldn't be
on the ballot before that, to open the charter, if that makes sense.
Clerk Swope: To provide some context, The HRCA provides two ways for a City to elect a charter commission:
one is by a 3/5 vote of council, the other way is by an initiative, so the voters can circulate petitions. That can be
done at any time, in any year, whenever. So, the 12 years creates a false timeline, and we are one of six cities in
Michigan that has a provision like this. If this isn't there, the City Council can still do this any year, and they
can have more of a planned process. I think automatically going on the ballot is not necessarily meeting the
needs of the City. I think this is something that should always be in the back pocket of the voters and the
Council. That's why I think it benefits the City to remove this provision.You can also amend the Charter in the
same ways outlined in HRCA. The state law allows the election of the commissioners to occur concurrently
with the question of should there be a charter commission. It saves having two separate elections. I think that
allows a city to have a more informed process.
Commissioner Boyd: If there is a change, there should be an effort made to have the two ballot items
concurrently.
Commissioner Washington: I think voting for the two at once is a good idea. We shouldn't have lost those six
months. I really want people to be able to vote on whether to review the Charter. For a local government it's
good to review it in totality now and again.
Commissioner Dowd: We should add language that says this charter can be reviewed by the processes in HRCA
and we put the ways it can be reviewed.
Attorney Rewa: MCL 117.18 is on revision, so if you're looking at ideas, look to that. This falls under the
"unless otherwise provided by the charter" so if the section is removed, there are still ways to do a general
revision.At the end of the day, the voters still need to decide.
Commissioner Bauer: I am intrigued by a study committee of the charter being formed, and then bring that
recommendation to the City Council. We would have to look at who would be on the committee.
Vice-Chair Adams Simon: I think we should have an established charter commission that makes those
recommendations to council, but it goes back to how do we make appointments, and there is a disconnect with
our citizens there.
Commissioner Boyd: We should look to 1978 to how the study committee came to be.
Commissioner Lopez: I think my vision is a standing charter commission that would keep the charter updated.
Public Comment
Farhan Sheikh-Omar spoke about remarks made by Commissioner Boyd; Article 2-304; and Article 2-410.
Commissioner Remarks
Commissioner Washington congratulated Vice-Chair Adams Simon on her leadership during the meeting.
Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned by Vice-Chair Adams Simon at 9:26 PM.