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Minutes of January 24, 2024
Commissioner Henry called the meeting to order at 5:30 p.m. Mr. Fleming called the roll.
PRESENT AT ROLL CALL: Commissioners Emma Henry, Loria Hall, Ashlee Barker, Heather
Taylor, and Don Sober left 7:00pm.
STAFF:
Jennifer Burnette Steve Raiche
Douglas Fleming Kim Shirey
Guests: None
Commissioner Barker motioned and Commissioner Hall seconded a motion to approve the
minutes of the November 20, 2023, commission meeting. The Motion was approved by all
members present.
Public Comment: limit 3 minutes per person
• Oliver Garden Resident would like to know when Oliver Garden will be remolded.
• The Executive Director explained they are applying for tax credit round in October. The
soonest it could happen in 2026.
Action Items:
• Executive Director/CEO Contract Renewal — Tabled until next meeting for more
information.
Commissioner Henry motioned to table seconded by Commissioner Barker.
Motion was approved by all members present.
• Executive Director/CEO Bonus —
Commissioner Henry motioned Commissioner Barker Seconded to approve to pay
bonus as in years past as stated in contract due to continued development, PHA
standing with HUD etc.
Motion was approved by all members present.
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• Resolution 1361 — Lansing State Journal Land Purchase. Executive Director/CEO
explained this is purchase of lot only. Due to move the 4% deal if city does not come
through with sale of the parking lot where the 4% deal has already been approved. At
the end of February, we should know if the city will sell the lot. Hopefully before.
Commissioner Barker motioned Commissioner Hall seconded to approve the purchase
of the Lansing State Journal.
Motion was approved by all members present.
• Resolution 1362 — Baryames Land Purchase. The Executive Director/CEO has the
authority to negotiate for the property. The property is located on the corner of
Kalamazoo and Grand River. The development would be 9% deal 63 units and 4% deal
55 units. MSHDA requires a specific number of parking spots. If the city does not sell
LHC the parking lot, we are short parking spaces per MSHDA requirements. Purchasing
this lot will give us the necessary spaces. This would be done in conjunction with CATA.
CATA is working with the legislature to obtain the required funding. CCA is helping with
this deal.
Commissioner Hall motioned Commissioner Barker seconded to approve the purchase
of the Baryames Land Purchase.
Motion was approved by all members present.
• Resolution 1363 — Significant Amendment to Annual Plan. Phase 1 of the project
would allow residents of Forest at the time of the close to be the first residents to get the
opportunity to move in. Hoyt was included for the future. It requires HUD approval and
must be indicated in our 5-year plan.
Commissioner Barker motioned Commissioner Hall seconded to approve the significant
amendment.
Motion was approved by all members present.
• LHC Board Policy on Conference Attendance — Proposed. This policy comes from
the change in by-laws about attendance at the board meetings. The discussion was
also about having a policy for attendance at conferences. Commissioner Taylor stated
she was told commissioners were put on hold for attending conferences and asked if it
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was voted on. Commissioner Henry stated no vote was held for the change in the by-
laws with a discussion at the next board meeting on commissioners' attendance at
conferences. Commissioner Taylor reiterated that she feels she was slighted when it
comes to the attendance of the conference. Commissioner Taylor thought the situation
was handled incorrectly. The discussion went back and forth until this was tabled until
the next board meeting. Commissioner Taylor would like more time to go over the policy
before it is voted on.
Commissioner Henry motioned Commissioner Taylor seconded to table this discussion
until next board meeting.
Motion was approved by all members present.
Informational Items:
Finance Report December 2023
• The financial reports are now at the mid-way point of our year and are beginning to see
what we expect to see.
• In December we did receive some development fee income. We also brought down the
capital funds for our operating subsidy which will appear in the LIPH totals.
• We contributed $800,000 to our pension fund in an effort to keep that funded liability at
around 90% and honor our commitment to both our current employees that are eligible
and our legacy employees. We can be proud of the fact that our pension is funding is
secure.
Housing Choice Voucher December 2023
Jennifer Burnette provided a brief overview of the December 2023 HCV Reports
• In the month of December, we issued 9 regular HCV vouchers, 4 VASH orientations
and 4 vouchers were issued.
• We have 15 that are issued out searching or pending inspection with the VASH. We
have 1 that is pending inspection and 1 in the application process.
• We have 53 regular HCV that are currently out searching for units. We have 29
applicants that are pending documentation or final approval. They are working through
to get them approved and a voucher to them soon. Then we have 10 units that are
approved and pending inspection or pending lease up.
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• We did begin pulling off our new waiting list. We tried to employ a couple of new tactics
by sending out emails in advance hoping that maybe we will grab some people's
attention telling them to watch for them coming in the mail. These are some things that
you should get ready to prepare for in hope that will increase the responds time.
• A question was asked about specific vouchers for families who are involved in child
welfare system and have we looked into utilizing those vouchers.
• Kim explained that there are specific vouchers called family unification vouchers. They
are specifically designated for families that are struggling with maintaining permanent
housing. After talking to Child and Family services, we made preference that any
referrals provided by Child and Family services as it relates to foster care. At the time
we contacted them the need was for children aging out of foster care. That is what they
asked us to make a preference on. So currently our preference is for those that are
aging out of foster care.
Asset Management Report December 2023
Public Housing (PH) Scattered Sites — Kim Shirey
• Public Housing Scattered Sites we currently have 100 units left in public housing. 95
of them are occupied, which is an occupancy rate of 95% at the end of December.
There were zero (0) move-in, zero (0) move-outs, and zero (0) transfers.
• Out of the 5 units that are vacant, we hope to have 3 of those units filled by February 1.
• There was a total of 27 open work orders.
• As of January 1, we removed 28 more scattered sites out of the public housing due to
the SK Lansing sale and they went to project base vouchers.
LIHTC Update - we are waiting for the city for the sale of the land across the street from our
office. Once we hear from the council after they vote on the sale we will move forward.
Discussion Items:
• Long Range Planning — Doug has contacted an entity that does long range planning.
They can help with what are some other things that we can do for investment. We are
looking for ways in which we can leverage the investment money into more affordable
housing here in the city. This group works specifically with bonds. They have done a lot
of bonding and helped other public housing planning and other groups like us. There
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are two public housing entities that are left in this country. There are some like us that
are going through RAD and then there are the old public housing that are just hanging
on.
• So, part of this strategic plan is to work with both staff and the board to see what we
might look like in 3 to 5 years and what are some of the needs we might have. This is a
rough schedule of what that might look like.
• We will need to get together to discuss what is going to happen. I need the boards input
to see how that will happen.
• 1 have not engaged yet. He wants to get input from the board to see if the board wants
to continue.
• Commissioner Henry thinks it is a great idea to engage in this process. I think it is
critical that both staff and board members have input. As far as structing, I am open to
whatever works for everyone and think the key is to everybody being there.
Commissioner Taylor stated this is information we could have gotten at that training
considering it was training for the commissioners. It indicated how to evaluate the
executive director, how to get better commissioner things we want to put on in the
meeting for discussion. Let's research that information.
• Doug will engage them and next month I will be looking for from you is how do you want
the input to look like. Do you want it to be over several months, do we want to do it in
one night, do we in a retreat. Whatever the board indicates they want to do.
• The group's name is CSG advisors. They are not local. There is not anyone local
because they are specific to public housing.
Other Items: None
Deputy Director Comments:
• In the month of December, we assisted 23 families and provided Christmas for 68
children who participate in our various programs. That includes fulfilling their wish lists
wrapping their gifts and we also included stocking this year which is something we have
not done in the past. We gave staff the opportunity to go out and shop for these
families. They realized that it takes a lot of energy and effort than they thought. To see
the faces on some of the families when they come to pick up their gifts, we received a
couple of emails stating they received more for their family and children than they ever
dreamt they could have. It was just shocking. When they were loading the cars, they
would say wow I didn't know it would be this much. Pretty cool to experience.
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• Question what type of gift did we give? The families each provided a wish list for their
children, and we tried to fulfill that wish list as long as it was reasonable and not iPads
or laptops or gaming systems or stuff like that.
• 1 also attended the conference in San Deigo. I attended sessions that were related to
the new HOTMA changes coming out regarding the programs. The HOTMA stands for
the Housing Opportunity through Modernization Act. It started in 2016 and is now being
implemented in 2024. A lot of the sessions revolved around the policies regarding these
changes and the fact that the technology is not ready for these changes. HUD is behind
in implementing the codes and the guidelines for people like our Elite software, people
that manage the HUD database where we are supposed to pull this information from.
Housing authorities are supposed to implement these changes by October 2024. One of
the sessions I sat in was with various vendors. HUD has promised them to receive all
the necessary information by May. They still have to do all the testing and go through
debugging. They are assuming that there will be an extension for that compliance.
• They are also rolling out a new income verification system. They are going from the
enterprise income verification system to what they are calling the HUD information
program (HIP) which was supposed to be rolled out the beginning of this year but is not
close to being ready to implement due to it is still in the guidance and programing
stages.
• One of the sessions I sat in was more regarding the actual changes that are coming
through. Which one of the biggest changes is the way we calculate the assets. That is a
big change that will affect the senior population in subsidized housing. Right now, HUD
has no limits on assets.
• The final session that I sat through was the new inspection changes. They are going
from what was called REAC inspection base to an INSPIRE inspection base and one of
the biggest changes is that there used to be only 9 24-hour violations and now there are
over 80. Another big change is we must have documentation regarding our water
source that comes into our properties. And that is because of the Flint issue that they
had.
Executive Directors Comments:
• Kim covered HOTMA. I think to say at the conference that is the biggest topic in all
public housing across the country right now. Because it has a far-reaching impact on
everything from like Kim said they way we calculated income to how we inspect units.
But our frustration with HUD as it always is that we have systems in which we have to
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upload stuff in which they may measure us on, and they don't have it. As Kim said the
vendor who are going to write the software still don't have the information that they need
to write the software for stuff that is supposed to be implemented in October. The
vendors still will need time for testing and debugging.
• Another topic at the PAHDA conference was BABA (Buy America Build America) it is
part of the infrastructure act that they passed. The vision is that at some point in the
future that all the manufactures in America will get onboard with BABA they are going to
now produce BABA certified products. The problem with this, more so for public
housing, it that it sounds good in theory but here is the problem we have partially if you
are public housing agency you get funded through a budgetary process. We get 85 to
90 cents on the dollar. We say we need 100,000 and they give you 90,000 and say
figure it out that is how they have been doing public housing for years. Now they turn it
around on the other side. That is revenue side and now the expense side they say we
have cabinets that we can put in for $100 well they are not made in America not BABA
certified. Now you must go buy cabinets that are $120 or $130 so they don't give you
enough money to fix stuff to start with now they are going to force us pay more on the
back side. And there is no definition of what BABA means. This is already in effect. If
you can't find BABA certified product you can ask for a waiver. The waiver is a 30-day
process best case scenario.
• 1 also attended a LIHTC conference by Novagradac. The big two take aways there is
some money out there for missing middle and there are some credits for missing
middle. The difference between affordable and missing middle affordable is 30 to 80
percent, missing middle can go up to 120 percent. There are some dollars out there. I
made contact with a couple of people about looking into missing middle credits and how
we will be able to get them. Again, to layer them with our current credits. Hopefully we
can do that and build a missing middle project.
• The last thing — I passed out a document that is produced locally in Lansing. I found it
interesting as an FYI. It has statices that are put together locally about people that end
up in court as a result of non-pay. HUD made a new 30-day rule. You can't do anything
in the courts until 30 days after that. That already makes their balance two months late.
Then you have the whole court process that can take another 30 to 60 days. The it was
intended to help people give them time to figure out a way before they got evicted but
has the opposite effect. The intent of the policy was a good idea, but the implantation is
going to be horrific.
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Development Activities:
Other Activities:
President's Comments:
Other Business:
Adjournment: The meeting was adjourned at 7:27 p.m.
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Emma Henry Board Chair
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Doug Fleming, Acting Secretary
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