HomeMy WebLinkAboutPC 4-2-24 MinutesLANSING PLANNING COMMISSION
Regular Meeting
April 2, 2024 - 6:30 p.m.
Neighborhood Empowerment Center
600 W Maple Street, Lansing, MI
MINUTES – Approved 5/8/2024
1.OPENING SESSION
Ms. Alexander called the meeting to order at 6:40 p.m.
a. Present: Katie Alexander, Shane Muchmore (arrived at 6:54), John Ruge
b. Absent: Tony Cox, Josh Hovey, Monte Jackson, Ted O’Dell
c. Staff: Andy Fedewa Principal Planner, Zachary Driver Commercial Corridor
Specialist
No quorum present
2.APPROVAL OF AGENDA
3.COMMUNICATIONS
Norma Bauer submitted an article about fare-free public transit to the Planning Commission.
4.PUBLIC HEARINGS & ITEMS FOR ACTION
A.Draft Sign Ordinance, Chapter 1310
Mr. Fedewa presented an overview of the proposed sign ordinance that will repeal and replace
the current ordinance, Chapter 1442. The current ordinance utilizes former zoning districts to
determine various regulations and has many regulations that were nullified by the case Reed
vs. Town of Gilbert.
Ms. Alexander asked if the number of allowed projecting signs and wall signs will lead to
excessive signage. Mr. Fedewa stated that the sign area of all wall signs is calculated together
and capped by a maximum square footage of total sign area. Projecting signs are limited to
16 square feet, but when a projecting sign is utilized in lieu of a wall sign it is still limited by
the total allowable wall sign area. A business owner will have to determine how their signs
fit within that limit.
Mr. Ruge stated his concern about signs exempted from permitting. Mr. Fedewa clarified that
even though some types of signs will not need sign permits, they are still regulated by other
rules elsewhere in the ordinance.
Mr. Muchmore asked about limiting signage placed in rights-of-way and how the city can cite
the people that leave them since their phone numbers are on the sign. Mr. Driver replied that
he and numerous other employees from Code Enforcement and Public Service remove those
signs when they can. Mr. Driver stated that he does call the numbers on a case by case basis
to warn people to not place signs in the rights-of-way.
Mr. Muchmore asked if the rules for sign setbacks are adequate to limit conflicts with vehicle
lines of sight at intersections and driveways. Mr. Fedewa answered that staff is very sensitive
to that safety issue and clear vision areas are protected in the proposed sign ordinance and the
form-based zoning code.
Andy Schor
Mayor
Planning Commission Minutes April 2, 2024 Page 2
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Mr. Ruge stated that he is concerned that tall ‘pole’ freestanding signs will still be allowed
under the proposed regulations instead of allowing only ‘monument’ freestanding signs like
other communities to limit visual blight. Mr. Fedewa replied that staff did debate the two
types of signs and stated commission members are welcome to offer alternatives to staff’s
recommendations to City Council.
Ms. Alexander opened the public hearing.
Norma Bauer asked how nonconforming signs will be removed. Ms. Alexander allowed staff
to respond. Mr. Fedewa stated that many existing signs will be considered legally
nonconforming which means they will be allowed to stay as legally required by zoning case
law. There will be opportunities to remove nonconforming signs as they are abandoned and
when properties are redeveloped.
Mitch Rice, member of the Board of Zoning Appeals, spoke in support of the draft sign
ordinance and mentioned how he thinks the proposed rules will limit the amount of variance
applications that are reviewed by the BZA.
Seeing no one else wishing to speak, Ms. Alexander closed the public hearing.
Mr. Ruge asked if projecting signs will be allowed to project over the rights-of-way. Mr.
Fedewa replied that they may project over the sidewalk as long as there is 10 feet of vertical
clearance below them. They will not be allowed to project into the street area.
Ms. Alexander asked if the Board of Zoning Appeals has reviewed the proposed ordinance as
the body that grants variances. Mr. Fedewa stated that staff has not yet presented to them.
5.COMMENTS FROM THE AUDIENCE
Ms. Bauer spoke on conditions in the Lansing metropolitan region and on the coordination between
surrounding municipalities. Ms. Bauer spoke in favor of fare-free public transit.
Mr. Rice asked staff to confirm if 6525 S Pennsylvania Ave. was in violation of the sign ordinance.
6.RECESS – Not taken.
7.BUSINESS
A. Consent Items – None
B. Old Business – None
C. New Business – None
8. REPORT FROM PLANNING & ZONING OFFICE – None
9. COMMENTS FROM THE CHAIRPERSON – None
10. COMMENTS FROM COMMISSION MEMBERS – None
11. PENDING ITEMS: FUTURE ACTION REQUIRED – None
12. ADJOURNMENT – The meeting was adjourned at 7:17 p.m.